~ 5:30 - 7:30pm ~ 2010 Olympic Select Cmte, WV Chamber of Commerce Boardroom

~ 6 - 8pm ~  NS Family Court & Youth Justice Cmte (CNV M Hall, Conf Rm A)

~ 7:30pm ~  WV Streamkeepers - Public Mtg at St Stephen's (885 - 22nd)

Riparian Area Regulations and DWV; WVS Report on 2004; Status of WV Creeks (which watershed do you live in? Who's watching your stream? do you want to?); Questions welcomed!

"Art's A Small World" -- small works & miniatures in mixed media

Jane Adams, Patricia Baldwin, Sa Boothroyd, Toni Cavelti, Anne Dunnett, Graham Eagle, Leslie McGuffin, Brian Romer, & Diego Samper

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   See section at end of this issue= on Say Nothing, Jan 18 - 22; Under the Kilt, Jan 21 - 23

 

AMICA made its presentation; a "mix of living opportunities", potential for ageing in place

undergrounding of services along Clyde Ave; architects are Davidson, Yuen, Simpson

Sop asked about the work on the bluff behind and drainage.

Ans: the bldg sits on top of one and a half levels of parking; back part will be used for stabilizing; condos look sideways (not into bluff)

Drainage will be same as Amica bldg.

~7:20

VD: have you legally combined the sites?

Ans: no

VD queried FAR, had understood 1.75 was max. Also queried change of ownership

Ans: had discussion with staff; complications either way; two legally separate sites but function as one single property; mechanisms linkages, 605 bldg; functioning as a composite,

Amica corporate entity

VD: my understanding of OCP only got benefit if actually combined

I hear what's going on; how'd get to 1.9....

SJN explained ownership is irrelevant wrt rezoning -- wd be same if 17 condo owners

VD again asked about ownership and Amica and who was applicant -- Amica on one site and Crescentview the other

Ans: legal, Amica made application; we (Crescentview) applicant b/c partners but we were the purchasers of the 605 site

VD: something troubles me b/c 1.75 is a huge increase in density

appreciate can get there through air transfers

SJN: Cclr Sop asked about this; can apply for density up to 1.75

use is defining, not ownership

VD: huge increase in density

Ans: ownership is identical and same percentage from an ownership perspective

VD: still.......

JF: had some of the same concerns about ownership and partnership b/c of precedent and applying for same density (other nearby single lots).

SJN said they cd report back to Ccl and continued:

If this had come in separately, don't believe this question wd have arisen.

What we were concerned with and PAC was, was means of ensuring this devt seen as a single unit, a single devt.

G-J:  I thought goal was use [b/c affordable rental housing]

VD: in that area the cmte gave a bonus for those who amalgamate but what you have here is a big one with an attachment.  Cclr JF wonders -- where do you go from here?  attach others?

If owners across the street join them they wd own them.

Here we have one owner developing to 1.75 and putting doors to adjoining owner.  Interesting,  but only that, interesting.  [shd be] 1.75FAR.

Sop: it was the cmte's intent to move to larger units

here's use we wanted

and a care facility

if strata, 17 owners; covenant involved; seems we're going in positive direction -- something for the cmnty; not sit there and do nothing with FAR of 1.0

Wonder why we're not going ahead with this

JF: not meant to imply any negativity or bias toward project, it was a question and going back to select cmte that did come forth

hope staff will come back with a report as to positive and negative

Sop: what's the worst that wd come out of this with two owners

Mayor: getting into a debate here; wd like to ask public

Curt Shepard, 590 Duchess: house NE of this project; have mtg with them tomorrow but asking three questions now; four things

1  the retaining wall is quite high -- anything supporting it?

2  high pressure gas main -- is that close to footings?

SJN: I don't know. Ms Boyle (Planning Dept) may know.  She's in audience.

GB: haven't received the drawings yet

CS: 3  don't know setbacks on north side

4  noise coming up: mechanical on rooftops and garbage pickup

Applicant answer:  1  abutting, grading changes, adjustments to stairwell, stability

2  to grades we're proposing, is a water main; been discussions with M staff about relocating that to the east

3  standard setbacks, 12ft on east side

4  as with Amica project -- no mechanical units on roof, had looked at green rooftops but heard from cmnty not desired

Garbage: consolidate within existing Amica area, that's one of the connection points

VD: we're going to have the residents of 605 putting their garbage in Amica?  where?

Ans: [pointed to model] concealed loading dock

VD: what's to stop the strata ccl from saying they don't like your costs?

Ans: they get emergency care b/c linked along with garbage linked with agreements; bylaws will control that

VD: but bylaws can be changed

staff ascertained garbage in that location and that location only?

SJN: drawings show that; wd draw up with covenants if approved and back for Ccl's approval

Sop: Letter re increased density and traffic flows in all of the Amica site?

Ans: we have a situation; this bldg introduces residential use and cd hv been commercial

28 cars parked now on it vs 23 on new

residents will have much less use; has more capacity b/c residents of this anticipated more mobile than Amica

traffic generated will be fairly small by comparison

VD: report coming back from staff -- wd like to know cost of undergrounding; value to cmnty re undergrounding

SJN: will have it in report; can tell you right now $60K for Clyde Ave and $36K for the 6th St

7:48

Closure was moved however SJN commented with staff report, adjournment instead.

7:49

Agenda amended

RJ, Event Producer:  We said in 2004 we'd be back with a full report  [Festival held Aug 14 - 22]

Participation from all across Canada and US, a group from Scotland, Australia, and Tasmania.

[PowerPoint Presentation]

in excess of $100,000 ($100K) economic activity

85% feedback from forms; 71% saying they'd come back

four different events in all three Ms

the one day of bad weather was the Credit Union Enduro; used event as fundraiser and raised $2K for North Shore Search and Rescue

generated $200K of media coverage

Legacy of $20K back to the cmnty!  some will go to interfit project (for handicapped access)

some money for trail work to make it more ridable for the kids

wrt Mtn Bike Park up on Cypress and concern, raising awareness of old growth forest

organizing for May/June this year; will be looking again for WV support and Ambleside venue again

Thanks (and token plaque)

Sop: re education, what are you going to do wrt old growth forest

RJ: looking at level of awareness, looking to bikeshops and websites, looking for ideas, nothing concrete

Dan London: a director of the NV Mtn Bike Event Society; basically we're trying to control an explosion

in mid-December, report to 47 member nations containing a two-line comment on each country save one:

NShore: this region is the global destination

one of the most sig events worldwide for this sport last year, commendation given also for sustainability

results phenomenal

requests to participate

request from Germany to go there and and show them

request from Germany to assist in film on this

dramatic flux

we can't as an organization so what we did last year wrt scope and legacy items as presently structured.

got to implement administrative procedures and have a biz plan

Assure any public funds put in are used solely for the delivery of services

G-J: want to thank you very much

been sitting on a simmering situation; need your help

got an email today from someone doing a master's thesis in Scotland on this; important to recognize an important product and part of growing up; she's now talking to Edinburgh Ccl b/c of her experience here

MOTION OF THANKS AND APPRECIATION

{a few people left the gallery}

8:05

ME, Chair of Coalition:  Before I start may I request an extension.  I have a short introduction but Mr Perry has about eight minutes

Mayor: if that meets with Ccl's approval

ME gave the background of this determined group and their activities, including the Back to the Bluffs (or is it Buff?) calendar.

Support for opposing has grown throughout the Lower Mainland and through our website, international.

Mr Perry:  The prov govt decision for overland instead of a 1.4km four-lane hwy is a bad, bad, bad, decision.

[He referred to the website and read some facts, eg the bidbook shows the tunnel!]

Min of Transportation report states these are the most sensitive ecosystems on the whole highway, rare, unique, etc.

MOT's own consultants recommended the tunnel

Recommending this on 'context-sensitive design' (definition on website) but the overland hwy breaks this promise

take a look at the website for more facts

Safety: tunnel dry safe and well-lit is safer if you look at European statistics

Visual and noise horrific -- trench in bluffs, 1-200ft high landfill!

Tourism: Eagleridge at HBay is the most scenic departure point of hwy (in LM?), so why destroy this?

Overland hwy will ruin ambiance

negative: conservation will be lost

noise levels cd reduce other values, property values, by as much as 50%

traffic dislocation during construction will also be horrific -- look at website

look at the Get Involved part of the website -- events such as rallies and protests

will be a lot more until the prov sits down to discuss the tunnel

look at the About Us page and the Contact Us

an awful lot on Home Page

Calendar section -- only avenue we have for raising money

got one of Planning's big maps of WV and we're highlighting nbrhds as people decide to canvass nbrhds

selling calendars is half of it, also telling the story

on website, presentation by Steve Jenkins (WV Staff Env Coord), and a five-minute film.  Will show a 20-second clip now

"Back the Bluffs!" Mary Bissell

Started with Burns Bog and here we are with another Bog!

"Naked" will be on CBC shortly

Mayor: what's the website?

DP: www.eagleridgebluffs.ca

We're asking for your support to sit down and negotiate a deal, with Fraser Basin Ccl (their only proviso is that both sides be willing to sit down).

heard $200m, that's $70m more than their estimate so about the same as the tunnel

for the longterm, the tunnel is a financial steal

write to Minister [ofT] Falcon, there's a form letter on the website; copy Premier, contact MLAs and prospective MLAs, politicians, John Furlong, IOC

Bruce McArthur, WRA Head, wrote a great nine-page letter last May, believe me with great questions, and he's still waiting for an answer.

Politicians need to be accountable, strongly supportive, pro-active for the public good

let's hold them to this.

so thank you

Encourage you to continue on gaining support

we're just as frustrated as you are

unfortunately your MLA is not running again but that might change in May

G-J: stress visiting website www.eagleridgebluffs.ca and viewing the video; shows you the great beauty -- Steve Jenkins's presentation is on there

"Naked" will be on NewsWorld, "Rough Cuts", Eagleridge five minutes in that show

will announce date when we know.

DP: at every chance we get, your govt one of the most progressive in working with the cmnty, and I commend you on that

JF: whenever we speak [all Council] take every opportunity, we speak in support of the tunnel, etc

think you're beginning to make an impact, elsewhere

those who sit across will see it

once it's gone, can't get it back

DP: as rep on GVRD, inform you that GVRD is fully behind WV (the tunnel)

Mayor: shd hv mention also MMgr made presentation to GVRD bd and gained support of the GVRD bd

followed by letter, to Minister to reconsider

don't recall if response

Mr Stuart made a very effective presentation that morning and gained their endorsement

JC: in your efforts to reach out may I [suggest] that you focus on the two ridings: Mr Falcon and Mr Campbell

in their own backyard; May 17 only a few months away

Ans: great advice; one of reasons we're raising money

Sop: press the int'l market; emphasis on Plan B, if not through

sustainability not addressed and consequences devastating; cost to marketing (tourism)

BC SuperNatural -- how much if they put this through?

DP: has Liberal candidate in your riding come out in favour?

JC: au contraire

[Comments: think for overland]

VD: good luck!

DP: we're thinking of running an independent candidate, but wd have to have more, bigger platform than that

If any members of the press here, we'll leave copies on the desk by the door.

Mike Evison: appreciate the consistent support we've received

8:28

SJN: consistent with provincial policy; lease to 2014

8:29

SJN: house not in good condition

8:31

Sop: great work has been done, echoing Cclr JF, incredible PEAC I sit on and presume others

minutes don't come until a month or so later and as liaison we don't report anything; we're sitting on these cmtes, wd it not be of some value, perhaps in Reports, that we take a moment or two to report what has been done in the past weeks? so kept abreast

DoAS: terms of reference; Ccl says seven to ten days then to approval before circulating to Ccl; [approved beforehand]

Mayor: prior to adoption?:

but sat also on Finance Cmte and not every week [sic] something of note

and ccl mtgs go on for some time

JF: when it's important then say something but if another opportunity do it then, by all means wait

Mayor: we'll use--

Mayor: ask each cclr to use his own discretion; something specific, please bring it forward; I wd encourage it

Mayor: Cclr Sop being humorous--

SJN: will deal with these two together

Ccl required to make some judgements so have has some tests

use re past? when demolished? use before?

the owner has submitted information that reflects positively so staff is recommending approval with some conditions.

Letter has been received from DFO that they wd approve that structure

Sop:  one of the requirements is for applicant to sign the foreshore policy that we haven't passed yet, wd that be a problem?

SJN: been a condition; dealt with a handful of encroachments on foreshore; some have; don't believe a problem; sign policy fair and equitable

Sop: owner aware of new policy?

SJN: no policy yet, not created, aware of present policy; will be brought forward to Ccl for public discussion

8:45

=B7        Finance and Audit: Councillor Durman, Chair; Councillor Clark; Mayor Wood

=B7        Sports and Recreation Facilities Planning: Cclr Durman, Chair; Cclrs Ferguson and Soprovich

=B7        Development Review Process: Councillor Durman, Chair; Cclrs Ferguson and Day

=B7        Council Advisory Committee Member [sic? it's singular on the M website]: Mayor Wood, Chair; Cclr =46erguson and Day

=B7        Arts and Culture Strategy: Councillor =46erguson, Chair; Cclrs Clark and Goldsmith-Jones

=B7        Lower Mainland Municipal Association           Cclrs Soprovich, Ferguson (Alternate)

 =B7       Municipal Insurance Association           Cclr Soprovich, Mayor Wood (Alternate 1), Dir/Admin Services (Alternate 2)

=B7       = ; North Shore Advisory Committee On Disability Issues    Cclrs Clark, Ferguson (Alternate)

=B7       = ; School Board Liaison    Mayor Wood, Chair; Cclrs Clark, Day

=B7       = ; 2010 Olympic/Paralympic Committee   Mayor Wood, Chair; Cclrs Goldsmith-Jones, Durman

JC: I don't see and never have seen Police Board, I know how it functions.  I know you are, Mr Mayor.  Is that not an appointment? endorsed by Ccl

Mayor: it's a provincial appointment; provincial mandate, seven mbrs on the board

RECOMMENDED:  THAT the recommendation of Mayor R. K. Wood for the following Council representative appointments to Council Advisory Committees/Boards be endorsed:

                        Councillor Goldsmith-Jones, Councillor Ferguson (Alternate)

                        Councillor Day; Councillor Soprovich (Alternate)

                        Councillor Ferguson, Councillor Durman (Alternate)

 =B7        Heritage Advisory Committee

                        Councillor Day, Councillor Soprovich (Alternate)

 =B7        Parks and Environment Advisory Committee

                        Councillor Soprovich, Councillor Day (Alternate)

                        Councillor Clark, Councillor Day (Alternate)

a special thank you to the Youth Cmte that offered free popcorn, to Ambleside and Tiddly Cove Lions Club and to WV Legion provided free coffee

fireworks well-received and right on time, stroke of midnight

9.1       Correspondence  {listed in previous issue, WVM2005-01Ar}

Mayor: there's letter in here wrt alleged support re cancer and =46ire Dept

Mr Stuart, can you enlighten me?

MMgr: from fire fighters; writing to all in BC

re WCB

complex area; without research not certain what being discussed

this issue is being discussed by Labour Relations Bureau, being looked at in detail

Mayor: mtg coming up

MMgr: next couple of weeks

8:57

Bruce McArthur: Horseshoe Bay

when you were going over sublease, something struck me

something about barges, dangerous goods re HBay and some sort of study being made

understand over marinas, some report or study re dangerous goods; occurred to me Sunset Beach is a major spot for unloading rock for Sea-to-Sky

going to set up some sort of facility

just act you might want to watch activity out of there

might not have any effect when hwy being done but see

so not set up as a permanent site for moving dangerous goods up and down Sound

MMgr: as much as we know is that if the prov goes ahead with the overland route, to dispose of some of the rock might have to be some infrastructure developed

as to actual location, not sure if in M jurisdiction.

Mayor: thank you

appreciate your bringing it to our attention

9pm   11.       ADJOURNMENT

                        Appreciate this material provided to me for your information:

January 10, 2005

Mr. Mayor and Members of Council,

My name is Michael Evison and I Chair the Coalition to Save Eagleridge Bluffs at Horseshoe Bay. Thank you for the opportunity to update Council.

This is really quite an incredible story about a group of passionate people who felt and realized that if the first section of the Sea to Sky Highway [were] to be overland (as currently proposed), then irreparable harm would be done to a vital and sensitive ecosystem. Their feeling of grief and outrage was compounded since a tunnel alternative is available, and the Premier through the 2010 Bid Book undertook to guarantee that the Winter Olympics would be sustainable.

From organizing petitions and public proclamations this group boldly then took the next step, which was to fund and produce something to capture the public's attention, since the political gestures were just that -- gestures. The chosen piece was to be the now famous 'Back to the Buffs' calendar which features ten young ladies and two not-so-young gentlemen.

We owe an enormous debt to this group for their passion, determination, and resourcefulness. As a result of these early initiatives, the support for the group has grown tremendously and now allows us, with help from more recent supporters, including [me] and Dennis Perry, to the next level through a website and other public initiatives. The support for opposing the overland route now comes from the whole of the Lower Mainland; and through our website, international awareness.

The Provincial Government's choice of a [four-lane] overland highway instead of the 1.4 km [four-lane] divided tunnel is a bad, bad decision. The impact of this decision will be felt forever and yet it completely ignores the conservation, recreation, tourism, and community values, as well as the visuals, noise, safety, and dislocations during construction. If you include these values in the decision, the overland highway becomes so costly it would never be contemplated.

One of our primary objectives in this presentation is to introduce you to our new website.

Let's start with a few facts from the Learn More page.

"In this flawed process the Provincial Government is ignoring its own experts and all of the facts. Where is their Vision?"

FACT: Gordon Campbell promised that these were going to be the "sustainable Olympic Games". The overland highway breaks this promise.

IN SUPPORT: The 2010 Bid Book for the Olympics actually shows the tunnel. Please visit the website for our Olympic promise.

IN SUPPORT: The B. C. Ministry of Transportation's own report to the Environmental Assessment Office, 2003 states that these are the most sensitive ecosystems in the entire Sea to Sky corridor. It uses the words "extremely rare, unique, highly susceptible to disturbance and regionally rare".  The report was based on a [two-lane] overland highway not the current [four]. The B. C. Ministry of Water, Land, and Air Protection, the Canadian Wildlife Service and MoT's own consultants recommended the tunnel and expressed their desire for no further loss of these ecosystems.

FACT: The Provincial Government is implementing the Sea to Sky upgrade based on the concept of Context Sensitive Design, implying a strong commitment to sustainability, the environment, community, and safety. The overland highway breaks this promise.

IN SUPPORT: See the website for the definition of CSD.

For the negative impact on the Baden Powell and Black Mountain Trails please visit the website.

=3D Visuals and Noise

=3D Community values

FACT: The overland highway will ruin the ambiance of one of B.C.'s great communities. This is much larger than a local issue and should concern all British Columbians.

SUPPORT: It will have a very negative impact due to all of the aforementioned values which will be lost. On the subject of noise alone, the Consultation Summary Report March, 2004 states that noise levels could reduce property values by as much as 50%. This should get people excited.

=3D And Finally for Traffic Dislocation During Construction  Please visit the website.

We are asking you to [Get Involved-Rallies]/Protests, About Us, Contact Us, Home Page-Sell&Buy Calendars, =46undraising, and now, also on our home page, and from the creative side of our group, is a clip from our [five-minute] movie produced for us by Leo Award winning documentary film maker, Mary Bissell.

We are asking for support from all levels of government and people across B.C.

1. Mayor and Council we are asking for your support in organizing the Provincial Government and the GVRD to sit down and negotiate a deal. If the Fraser Basin Trust has to be brought in as a mediator then so be it. It has successfully done so in two recent Sea to Sky development agreements.

An agreement on the tunnel should be a no-brainer as we have had it confirmed from good sources that all three contractors have come in at overland highway bids of in excess of $200 mil, $70 mil over the Province's initial estimate. The construction cost of the tunnel is now no more expensive than the overland highway, no matter whose figures are used, and long term the tunnel is a financial steal.

EVERYBODY, LET'S GET THIS DONE!

2. Go onto the website, email and write Kevin Falcon, our MoT, and John Furlong, CEO of VANOC copying Premier Campbell. Talk to your MLA and prospective MLAs. Hold them accountable too. They have been invisible on this huge issue. WRA head Bruce McArthur's great nine-page letter of questions, of May last year, has still not been answered. Our politicians need to be accountable, strongly supportive and proactive in the public good, which is the tunnel. Let's hold them to this and their Olympic promise to the world. Our free enterprise system depends on this kind of public accountability.

THANK YOU !

Michael Evison, Dennis Perry / Chairman, President / 604-922-4355, 604-921-6556

Agenda; ADOPTION OF MINUTES -- No items presented.

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