Herewith:  RUMBLINGS/gRUMBLINGS; Main Items for Feb 21st; Events/Mtgs to 20th; Ccl Mtg Feb 14 Notes; Abbreviated Agenda Feb 21st; Heritage Week Update (see separate flyer for details); Quotation

=  In the last enewsletter I wrote:  "Finance staff reported that they're going to get a consultant and start on five-year plan re information technology (read: computers).  So will Ccl at last re-establish ITAC?  Chances slim to none?  or will they really do something with so little expertise on staff........"

At the FAC mtg Feb 15th, learned plans apace and they may meet the light of day in March.  Let's hope then that it will go out for public review since ITAC has not been reconstituted.  Besides, that, was this review in the 2004 budget?  and how much was allocated?

=  Also, in last issue:  "Concern at both HAC and PEAC that the Caulfeild Park/Common has virtually been clearcut.  Gotta put some umph in our regulations!  or actually have regulations, enforceable ones.  My position has always been to chant the mantra that the view is through the trees or framed by the trees!"

Now my questions:

Furthermore

Good suggestion by the chair of LCAC (Michael Evison) on 15th -- maybe consult more than a single homeowner wanting an improved view by removing trees!  A nearby resident mentioned that only those within 50m were notified (if that), therefore he wasn't and the area ought to be expanded.  I recommended he make that point to Ccl and that if LCAC can make recommendations, it shd.  As Readers know, the folks around 22nd and Gordon also felt a larger area shd be notified.  This is especially true when there's a park or large complex (eg church) in the area b/c it result in very few residents being warned.  Parks says they'll also post a notice re tree work in future (I thought that had been part of their procedures).  Another tidbit:  The owner who got the trees removed only bought a matter of months ago (so can hardly say the trees grew into his view) is rumoured to have done this to flip the property.

=  Go to www.RalphSultan.com for our MLA's first newsletter of the year -- read about Small Business, Nurse Practitioners, Adventure Smart, and more!

= Got a message with a low grumble about the Aquatic Centre so did a bit of research:

First of all, we're very proud of the fact that it has won an award:

The architects are one of the best aquatic centre architectural firms in Canada.  Both the Architect (Roger Hughes now Hughes Condon Marler) and the Building Contractor (DGS) had just finished a major aquatic centre in Delta prior to doing ours.  Before that, these architects did the 50-metre pool (Walnut Grove) in Langley.  WV's project was not a new one, as you know, it was a renovation/expansion on a limited site with limited funding.

As to watching the li'l darlin's: The base of the waterslide is visible from the lobby.  The top of the slide is visible from the deck viewing area.

Grant Application for Tsunami/Earthquake Preparedness Funding

Natural Landscapes - Local Government Grants Program

BYLAWS: Fees and Charges; 2168 Marine Zoning Amendment and Devt Permit

Correspondence:

~ 3:30 - 5:30pm ~ YAC at the Hall -- Lots of activities and plans -- active group!

~ 4:30 - 6:30pm ~ EAC in Ccl Chamber -- the most incredible report from a subcmte or adv cmte I've ever seen -- on the shoreline; coming to Ccl soon; FAC appointee not allowed to speak to item! apparently all hoops not yet jumped through

~ 7:30pm ~ WRA mtg at St Monica's: Guest Speaker, Steve Nicholls, Dir of Planning; report from WRA's Parks & Rec Cmte (liaison w/ DWV); update from Coalition to Save Eagleridge Bluffs; Horseshoe Bay commercial area; housing allowing aging in place.

~ 8am ~ BC Chamber Week: a seminar which for retailers. "Marketing your retail store as a Destination" presented by Ken Grant of Trendtrek in the Chamber boardroom. Call 926 6614

~ 10 - 12noon ~  PHILOSOPHERS' CAFE - Library (Peters Room)

Participate in a group discussion on a topic to be determined at the session.

~5:30 - 7pm ~ Finance AC at Hall -- threw lease guidelines back to Ccl

~ 7 - 8:30pm ~ Determining Heritage Values in a British Columbia Context:  Are we half way to Panama?

This lecture at SFU Harbour Centre will look at how heritage values have influenced heritage conservation projects in various municipalities in BC. How does a values-based approach to heritage conservation influence the rehabilitation of heritage buildings in our Province?

Speaker: Donald Luxton, MRAIC, BA, BArch, Principal, Donald Luxton and Associates, Vancouver.

~ 7:30 - 8:30pm ~ FRIDAY NIGHT MUSIC SERIES - Main Floor of the West Vancouver Memorial Library.

Jazz diva Dee Daniels brings her silky tones to the Library.  Concert funded by the generous bequest of Robert Leslie Welsh.  General seating.  Tickets are required.  Reception hosted by the Friends of the Library.  For ticket information visit the Fiction Information Desk or call 604-925-7402.

2:30pm Lecture on LGB at GLH by Peter Buckland; Wetland Partners' mtg at 3pm at Youth Centre

7pm WinterSong at Kay Meek Centre

6-8pm Opening Receptions both at Silk Purse and Ferry Building Gallery (Artists' Talk 2pm Sat)

~ 5pm ~ PAC in Ccl Chamber -- ***  EVELYN DRIVE *** on agenda

~ 7pm ~ Discussion on future of Hodgson House (1913) at Museum

~ 7pm ~ SPCA AGM with Craig Daniels, CEO, Speaker at Srs' Centre

~ 4pm ~ Police Board at Ch of Commerce Boardroom

~ 5pm ~ NSACDI mtg at CNV Hall

~ 5:15 ~ DAC in Ccl Chamber

DON'T FORGET:  (see separate notice/flyer on Heritage Week, visit www.northshore.heritagbc.org)

then 3:30 Cypress Snowshoe Trek and BBQ (reservations required)

Tell the province what impact your public library has on your life.  Check out the website at www.beyondwords.ca or look for leaflets and posters in the Library.

A photographic exhibition featuring Siegfried Burgstaller and Lorne Topham February 1 - 28, 2005

Enjoy a view of nature and the world around us through the lenses of two West Vancouver photographers.  Join us for the Artists' Reception  Fri., February 4, 6:30 - 8:00 p.m.

Reception hosted by the Friends of the Library.  Everyone is welcome.

                        thus transcript typed during mtg on a best efforts basis

At the beginning of the mtg, Cclr Durman announced that the Open House on the new cmnty centre planned for the next night (Feb 16th) was being postponed; but also said the old one must be demolished this summer for the new one to open in 2007.

Mayor Wood still absent.

4.         REPORTS

RECOMMENDED: THAT

            1.         The Terms of Reference for the Arts and Culture Strategy Implementation Select Committee of Council be approved;

            2.         The appointments to the Select Committee, in accordance with the subject Terms of Reference be endorsed: Councillor Ferguson, Chair, Councillors Clark and Goldsmith-Jones

secondly: 2.8 sort out numbers, generally the wording cd be tightened up

just few little

VD: mainly 2.1

MMgr: add s

RD: we haven't decided so possible

MMgr: potential

VD: potential

premature to have 2.1

2.5 new places, direct to waterfront as well?

JF: interesting wording not tight but same as strategy that came before Ccl and was adopted unanimously

bldg new facilities not limited to waterfront, to where needed

Sop: wrt GVRD, that's where they were going to stay but talk to....

VD: always certain people at GVRD who want to expand and others to limit it to sewers

old levy, cultural and art grants; duly given out similar to ours, spring

Sop: I think this will give the cmte the ability to open up talks

timely we move forward on a policy

may see some great things on the waterfront

if some decisions with this strategy we shd see our core review of the waterfront sooner than later

G-J: re 2.1 this is really to strengthen, not seen as a radical departure

input really strong; I think the wording cd be changed to strengthen arts and culture along Argyle

it is what this cmte intends to do

Sop: how many more bldgs? large complex?

VD: that's what this cmte is formed to work through and come back to Ccl at each stage to see if willingness and money

G-J: 2.8, if it seems meaningless we have to come up with better

has to stay in

wrt Core Area Review, this policy does provide an important piece for this

big piece of puzzle and great we've got them now

JF: perhaps read out of context they seem broader than they are

grew out of cmnty, and wrt cmnty as a whole, a main drive

v important

this is also a ten-year plan; going to take time; everything will come back to Ccl

not carte blanche approval to go out and do things

has to be tailored with other things Ccl is doing

p 15, 5.5, it says 'none'

but there may be a need for this cmte within the ten years

wd like to ensure this

VD: presume

MMgr: means that

wd like to suggest whereas presidents may be qualified, they may not be in future (or interested)

VD: haven't made motion

[murmurs of yes]

RD: compliment cmte on excellent work; pleased

VD: see Mr Pike

KP: in order to cut this down, staff abbreviated, and one sees the folly

yes these are all the strategies but in abbreviating them see we've puzzled you, will....

Sop: is it really going to take ten years?  wdn't it be better a standing cmte?

to identify what bldgs to put where, see bit of a conflict, this cmte will listen to cmnty, but when says re waterfront, we may not know for three, four, five years

where's the logic with not coming with the waterfront plan first?

VD: currently we do have precincts

there are other issues and if we endlessly say we won't decide on future until issue coming down the line we may not decide on anything b/c always waiting for something coming down the line

VD: apologies, there's a Mr Ryan to speak

RR: I believe the minutes of the CSAC wch I chair did not come to Ccl before this item

VD: well,--

RECOMMENDED: THAT

            1.         The Municipal Art Collection and Public Art Policy and Procedures (Appendix A & B) be adopted.

            2.         The task of preparing a Public Art program (Appendix C) be referred to the Implementation Committee of the Arts and Culture Strategy.

KP: grew out of previous

both a policy and a procedure, and tricky issue of de-accessioning

also a discussion paper on a public art program

concept of creating public art recommended forwarded to the Arts & Cullture Cmte

JF moved 1, dividing the motion

VD:?

MMgr: Appendix A & B to the report

JF: I know people are waiting to have this adopted to begin on recommendations

think it is a thorough and sensible document

Sop: in B it calls for delegation of authority

wrt 8.1 small works, final approval of Dir of Arts and Public Services, approval up to $25K

VD: hang on

JF: page 36

VD: presume this $25K wd have a line item in the budget?

MMgr:  two comments then will refer to Mr Pike

if Ccl wants to deal with it, you're welcome to it

generally we try to keep minor things out of the Ccl

minor nature

KP: this wd not be M dollars...if you did decide $25K, you wd approve through budget process

this is as donations, that is the intent here

a work of art up to $25K cd still be small and appraised as that, that was the intent

no magic here, if you wanted to change it you cd

VD, looking round: okay/all right?

MMgr: donation

VD: not spending of cash, it's receiving up to $25K in donation

Sop:  a public art administrative group?

KP: you wdn't necessarily have a select cmte administering this

intent to pull together mbrs of cmnty as experts, making recommendation to Ccl

use anyone but intent people with expertise in art world

Sop: wonderful people but art expertise?

VD: misunderstood, recommendation made to full Ccl

up to them

Sop: how far do they go?  what are they going to do?

JC: this is a group of experts deciding on the merit of a piece of art

VD: we're talking about if someone's going to donate. --

Sop: silly me, I guess I was looking at the part that says 'task of preparing a public art program be referred to the implementation cmte' -- that's the Select Cmte

JF: the public consultation process revolved around the selection and placement of the--

G-J: I think that the select cmte is driving a number of issues in the cmnty; we're actually behind them, waiting

there are some things we need to do

there are some things in bad repair, need to do some de-accessioning

for sure, much of that activity will be taken on by the art advisory group

lots I'd like to talk about but think it imperative we get on with it and see its strengths and weaknesses

RD: good piece of work, amazing they've pulled this together

Appendix A 3.2, re relevance, and 4.2 on next page, p 25, it says look at putting into a WV focus .....

shd hv relevance

really perplexes me, think we shd give preference to WV artists but....

if we get a piece of art even if caustic -- some may say, I don't like modern art, don't get it!

again, I can't rewrite this now, and don't want to

we can have preference to WV and generally within context of WV

VD: 3.2 preference but not only

RD: can change, just has to be rewritten

VD: agree; when I read this through, when I got to the relevance part I wondered if we were trying to define too--

am sure Picasso wd annoy some

RD: he's been known to disparage but it's still good art

VD: move forward but--

JF: disparage is not distressing a mbr of the cmnty; meant if huge numbers of the cmnty find objectionable -- racist, violent; doesn't mean have to reject every piece of art that's provocative; just make sure if purchasing at ratepayers' expense, not--

RD: but it says just ONE, not large numbers

VD: see what you mean but

RD: doesn't say large numbers, just says one

Oksana Dexter: that wording has been selected b/c legal, around things re hate, violent

it is used in the most extreme cases but is not meant to limit freedom of expression but language that permits us not to accept a work in the M colln

top of p 3: two types of art, works that the M will own and works that will be in colln

involves care, maintenance, etc

Harmony Arts has a colln of posters and the M does not choose to take into its collection but if admin/adv group chooses to include into that colln -- Harmony Arts poster print, probably not, an Emily Carr, yes

advise on relevance, importance of work to Ccl

adv around whole spectrum of choices; select but keep it broad

VD: acceptable?

Sop: my thoughts, why need the select cmte to drive this when staff will take this and move along with an advisory

what's need to duplicate this? longer process? going to come back to Ccl in some way or other

VD: think the reason the RFMP has achieved what it has achieved is

b/c it had a select cmte to drive it forward

if we wish to have a policy and acquisition policy, need someone to drive it, clout, arm wrestle

select cmte there to make those difficult decisions and to come back to Ccl to have those decisions ratified

that's the purpose of cmtes

MMgr: Appendix B is really a discussion of options, recommendations, and needs someone to come forth

public art at 50 cents per sq ft

this is an issue that needs to be debated quite a bit; come forward with a recommendation to Ccl; cmte needs to talk to other groups

Sop: if cmte

MMgr: wd have to come to Ccl

7: 50+

RECOMMENDED:  THAT the street name "Twin Creek Place" be approved for the new private road service the Upper McDonald site.

area:  in cul de sac

7:57

4.4       Statutory Right of Way to BC Hydro over Municipal Lot 42 Block 1 of Block C, [DLs] 603, 604 and 806, Plan 9314 (Municipal Lot 42 on Glenmore Drive) (File:  1135?06 Lot 42 Hydro)

RECOMMENDED:

THAT the report dated February 02, 2005 entitled "Public Receipt - Statutory Right of Way to BC Hydro over Municipal Lot 42 Block 1 of Block C, [DLs] 603, 604 and 806, Plan 9314" be received for information.

Sop: payment?

SJN: don't believe so,

Sop: do they have rights to acquisition of wood/trees/logs

SJN:

MMgr: this is something Ccl had already approved

we required them to make some adjustments

satisfied some M interests achieved

4.5       Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4413, 2005 and Development Permit No. 04-024 (1891 Marine Drive)

RECOMMENDED:...introduced and read a first time in short form.

RECOMMENDED:...be considered at a concurrent Public Hearing and Public Meeting to be held on March 14, 2005 at 7:00 p.m. in the Municipal Hall Council Chamber.

SJN: wrt vacant lot at corner of 19th and Marine Drive; currently RM2 0.9FAR; application for townhouse/apt, about ten, ~7-1300sf at density of 1.25

VD: so you're suggesting first reading?

[YES, and so done]

8:02

RECOMMENDED:  ... received for information.

KP: follows other reports

does not have 2005 Workplan as yet, still working on that; will come forward with that in next few weeks

JF: an excellent report; these young people have been very very busy, unfortunate they cdn't be here

appreciate the schedules they operate under

VD: late night activities? in WV that's about 6pm

YAC wants activities

event at secret location, buses, police served non-alcoholic beverages

must have been secret

RD: non-alcoholic drinks served by police must have been thrilling

impressed by the activities they take on

was there at Hay Park [dedication]

impressive achievements this year; groups to strengthen school

VD: great cmte to have

Sop: not too many years ago we went to sock hops; remember well, attended by large numbers

in this cmnty, as unique as it is, if you drive around at 10pm, you'd see no one

ten major events over year, cooperation, youth centre, we've come a long way

8:06

Designated Presenter:  Director of Parks and Community Services (to be provided in Supplemental Agenda)

VD: Lower Caulfeild Green, Mr Nicholls -- oops, Mr Pike

KP: letter from resident concerned over condition of green; others concerned too

met with them with Cclr Day and agreed to bring that area up to condition it deserves

impacted by church, preschool, and park mgmt

note on p2, calls for removal of maples, maintaining views from lychgate out to cove

now rehabilitation plan and has to be done in conjunction with Engg b/c roads issue as well

will come back to Ccl as soon as we can

think we can come up with something that hearkens back to past wch is why we included the photo from 1915; up to current standards, provide parking, traffic to move, and still area preserved

G-J: May I just refer to this little book, A Short History of Caulfeild Village by H A Stone wch I think provides some of the inspiration that needs to be re-ignited; I think everybody intuitively knows this:

RD: Mr Leavers says preliminary ideas

separation between roadway and park

but no mention of trees, you cd plant some deciduous flowering trees

contemplated?

KP: wd come up

issue of views and being able to see across there

key but can be rethought

consultation process including with Ms Bradbury

before we do anything we'll get back to you soon.

Sop: in looking at the drawings

it's my understanding in viewing the area, natural beach?  like 18th along Argyle?

KP: even more natural

Sop: so unique state of this park -- staff, wd be a leader in what they do?

maintenance of entire area? leave area

KP: not many park mgmt plans but this is one

went for a walk with Mr John Mann who was on the original cmte and he told us what we were doing right and what we were doing wrong

what you see here is how we're maintaining that park and how we intend to go on

more natural, not artificial manner

VD: the roadway around the green; tacky

ppl parking all over the place

it's suffering; needs better roadway

KP: and I was speaking of the beachfront of Caulfeild Cove

the edge has to be more defined so ppl know where to go

VD: across worse

KP: where it goes down

we'll come back with that plan

8:17

Designated Presenter:  Director of Engineering and Transportation  (to be provided in Supplemental Agenda)

VD: Mr Nicholls

SJN: Mr Barth

VD: sorry, yes, Mr Barth

EB: wrt Lawrence Way when hwy widened

concerns raised: availability of gaps to get to Lawrence Way

long crossing distance from a bus stop there

vehicles stacking up; risk of high speed collisions

Ccl to review options; apparently there were similar concerns at Ansell Rd before my time and devpr required to do [things to make safer]

looking at what will go in there that will be safer

G-J: motion to write to Ministry of Transportation, asked to consider alternative design solutions, including signalization

I looked at that, really busy, amazed bus stop

no on ramp

for people crossing, can't expect they to be able to do that

glad staff helping advocate for people in nbrhd

Sop: I talked to you at beginning of week, glad on agenda

most serious is this crossover

Mr Dozzi has sent letters to Prov and we've received nothing in return

wonder where we sit wrt safety

EB: Cclr S is correct, we have contacted Ministry but nothing....

but did get a call the other day saying we wd get a reply shortly

Sop: is there any ability for this Ccl to pass a bylaw preventing traffic going over a four-lane hwy left turn

MMgr: can't make any such bylaw but can bring to their attention and hope that they listen

Sop: this report calling for some scenarios

what time take place in planning wrt our concerns? we cd be there?

MMgr: asked them to include us in discussions, consider options

how they'll respond, have to wait and see what they do

media they say province's desire to talk and safety; so hope they live up to that

this location and others

JF: to add some level of concern when writing to Ministry

bus passengers getting off on east and having to cross five lanes, particularly school children, don't know how many -- maybe contact Sch Dist and have the support

EB: excellent suggestion

we have asked not only to review design but also traffic mgmt plans during construction also, all the way through; Ministry has said willing to do that but just a bit frustrated at [delay in reply?]

Jim Simms: I live on Lawrence Avenue

wd like to emphasize that that left hand turn -- incredible -- is a suicidal proposition

was a mtg held by residents in area, had rep from Ministry of Transport, and from contractor and mbr from WV, not sure who

left no doubt in their mind it was totally unacceptable

after you went away, you began to feel less enthusiastic, nothing accomplished, but will be another mtg with same group end of Feb

the experience even now against traffic coming south is 'very exciting'; turning almost no choice but a U-turn....

the scenario presented by the Province is simply unacceptable

one-lane tunnel under the road wd work well with Ansell Place interchange

but I'm not sure the msg has been received

interesting that the contract was given some inducements to produce safe hwy, some bonus points if safer

want to emphasize that it's very unsafe

VD: I asked this to come to Ccl b/c anyone who's driven the hwy knows how fast and constant it is

the idea of lefthand turns, I was on cmte re Sunset Highlands for devpr to build something for cmnty; and the idea, to see that go to waste, lefthand turns across amazing POV

talked with Mayor of Lions Bay and he said the only thing that will speed it up is more crashes

RD: interesting this comes from a govt saying safety is its prime

Lisa Turpin: I'm a resident of Lions Bay and I drive that hwy frequently and I'm quite concerned with logistics of interconnectivity of all the cmnties along the hwy

if not at Lawrence Bay, understand the lefthand turn will be at Ocean Point, wch will be the turnaround point for Strachan Pt to come home

turning in U-turn

turning point to Strachan

same if you're coming out of Lawrence Way you'll go to Ansell Place

that hwy is going to be divided and don't know how your Fire Dept feels about jumping barriers

unless go to Ocean Point and turn trucks around

a few logistical points for you

8:32

4.9 [added]  Demolition Permit Fees:

SJN: we've surveyed other Ms

ours are the highest; none use them for heritage purposes or associate them with

fees for heritage are: some use street rentals and for gambling, as in New Westminster

there is a heritage strategy coming

excellent subject to be dealt with

how to deal within WV

not just bldgs but also streets

RD: we do have this strategic plan; HAC will be coming to Ccl with a proposal and asking for guidance

steering cmte or select cmte

is true the Cmnty Charter does not allow us to use demo fees for H purposes but the City of Vancouver uses a $168 processing charge

and DNV uses filming revenues, don't think we can set up a casino

useful suggestions; will take this back to our next mtg

JF: Heritage Casino; looking forward to report

RD: decommissioned ferry from ferry fleet--

SJN: Heritage Bingo!

8:35

5.         BYLAWS

This Bylaw received third reading at the February 07, 2005 Council Meeting.

RECOMMENDED:...adopted

SJN:  as explained last week, does not apply to CN Rail

our Env'tal Coord was speaking in NV last Monday night

Ian Forsythe, 2939 Mathers:  I don't think this has been really very carefully thought/read through

a philosopher said "you can believe what you choose but you must believe what you ought

two concerns I have, one philosophical, one biological

definition under biological control

Perhaps you'd like to read it out:

VD: use of natural agents, insects, nematodes, fungi, viruses, fish, or animals to control weeds

IF: isn't there some confusion there?

fish or animals

do insects control weeds?

Perhaps Dir of Parks can answer

VD: not meant to be a discussion

IF: essence, not correct; can't be used to control weeds

another concern it says fish or animals but a fish is an animal

not appreciated alarming someone not aware of that drawing up a bylaw for safety of popn

the philosophical concern is that if you have only permitted pesticides

can't even use vinegar

what about carrot juice if found out worth

if 50 years ago physicians only allowed to use certain things...

can be no progress if no other things are permitted

perhaps Ccl shd reconsider the wording

KP: the wording from the bylaw, we attempted to bring in as much as possible from other Ms, this comes from Vancouver, New Westminster, and Port Moody.

some definitions are legal ones....  some cases may not make perfect sense

does apply, apologize for this

we've gone over this and so have our solicitors

Sop: wd like to ask why CN is exempt; don't think they shd

good  co

they're near residential nbrhds

they shd also find alternative means

MMgr: CN falls under fed agency, has received exemption from prov govt

we will attempt to persuade them

Sop: health -- no organization shd be exempt!

just talk with them?

sit and educate and they're not obligated?

MMgr: they are not obligated to follow M bylaws in this regard

JF: I'm not a biologist but re terminology re insects

you can buy ladybugs so insects can eat aphids

can use nematodes to eat beetles

you might use fish on aquatic weeds

the wording on its own might not make sense but does in context

when biologists return; if Mr Forsythe wd like to call the Mr Jenkins he'll get an answer

G-J: as Ms across the country adopt these regulations, we'll see CN, perhaps able to put pressure, etc follow

8:45

5.2       Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005

This Bylaw received first reading at the February 07, 2005 Council Meeting.

RECOMMENDED:... be read a second and third time.

VD: the Municipal Clerk will speak to this

SSch gave some background

8:46

6.         REPORTS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCILLORS

G-J: NSh Congress mtg re Task Force on Substance Abuse -- good rapport with Coastal Health Authority

cmnty-based approach to this issue

Implementation Cmte, N Sh, led by Dr Brian O'Connor

come a long way

the last piece will be a communications plan

Sop: wd like to congratulate Cclr G-J and the significant change

talk of aligning substance abuse with mental illness; not done in province, have to go to Washington State

when we see a youth helplessly using and we can't take them to a place to have a psychiatrist look at them

good they're now committing some money to this

VD: attended NSh Cmnty Forum, always good to get that many staff and cclrs to sit around and listen to speeches

devt of young chn and nbrhd devt

somehow found the arithmetic didn't work

felt an interesting concept

our MMgr a good presentation, all these things we hear about aging

enormous amount of research going on

how things will affect us over the next 30 to 40 years

G-J and I attended up Cypress, "Chill", an organization that brings streetkids to come up to mountains and teach them how to snowboard

gives them the ability to achieve something, through sports; sponsored by Bell and prov govt; 100 kids over six weeks

magazine, personal stories, significant effect on people and their future lives

really for small effort

also attended Finance Cmte of GVRD, long and tedious as these mtgs are and can't really say we brought anything forward.

8:53

7.         OTHER ITEMS  =   7.1       Correspondence

...

7.1.8         Thirty (30) form letters, dated as indicated, regarding the "Good Neighbour Bylaw" (Business Licence Bylaw No. 3024, 1982, Amendment Bylaw No. 4403, 2004"

Sop queried the confusion of the names of the two bylaws wrt what was intended by the writers.

MMgr: this is a form letter circulating

actually in reference to Odour

We're looking at Odours and Noises; GVRD testing; hope to bring that bylaw back to Ccl.

Jay Brownlee: if I as a citizen contact a cclr, what is the timeline to hear back; preset or up to indiv?

VD: up to each cclr to respond to each

Brownlee: no preset?

VD: not for staff

MMgr: we have tracking systems for both correspondence and calls when to staff or Mayor and Ccl

important to point out outside of the ccl mtg, no cclr has authority to commit Ccl

no authority to commit Ccl to any course of action

up to them if they wish to respond

VD: sometimes one responds not directly but by contacting staff finding out about the issue, to follow up

Brownlee: sent a letter about a week and a half ago on behalf of the special interest group I represent

sent it by email; got reply [acknowledgement] from Clerk's Office

sent by email, make a difference? wonder why not in Correspondence tonight

VD: the item you're referring to is a legal and labour matter and we deal with it in camera

JF: I've had mbrs of my family leave msgs and haven't received

rather than jump to conclusions

maybe do it personally; several ways

Brownlee: I did it two ways

I understand; will deal with it on my own

Sop: on occasion, many occasions get calls

public works, Engg Dept, and I must say, extremely impressed by attentiveness of staff to attend to

any I call about

not been disappointed yet wrt Mr Barth or Mr Pike in relationship to questions asked

somewhere along the way; mtg called, on record; moves forward

VD: we all receive many phone calls and we each deal with it in our different ways to help cmnty

Miss Reynolds.

CR:  Good evening. Carolanne Reynolds, Editor, West Van Matters [#8 1065 - 24th], www.westvan.org

First of all,

Congratulations, Cclr Durman on running a second, well-run, mtg in a row.  Very impressed, thank you.

VD: thank you very much

CR [referring to remarks earlier in the mtg]:

A couple of comments

as to the casino -- wch caused great merriment at the presentation at the HAC mtg

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Herewith a summary of my Questions/Comments.  The transcript of this part will appear in the next issue.

More on this in a future report.

For the moment, however, here's what I've just copy and pasted from the Sports & Rec Facility Planning Select Cmte page the M website that night:

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You will notice that the two mtgs I referred to (Jan 26 and Feb 2) do NOT appear despite VD's protestations.  A Feb 2nd mtg however, does appear on the Cmnty Event Calendar (the January calendar has been removed so can't check that one -- must be a new policy that removes the previous month's calendar just as they now no longer have that helpful list of mtgs for the month on the righthandside of the calendar).   Well, folks, I didn't want PQP to turn into a debate but I did have this printout in my file folder proving what VD was saying was not true or did not match the M website.  I also did not want to focus on his cmte (he's chair of Sports/Rec Fac Planning Select Cmte, and their mtgs are at the call of the chair), rather my aim was to get public the procedures of notice of cmte mtgs in general since there has been uneven adherence.   The MClk did volunteer that they wd remind staff of the policy.

[The Ccl mtg ended around 9pm. with Sop noting the Wed Feb 16th mtg had been cancelled.]

see website www.northshore.heritagebc.ca or write info@northshore.heritagebc.ca or call 922 4400

***  Opening Night Receptions on Tuesday Feb 22 from 6 - 8pm

***  Wed, Feb 23rd at Gertrude Lawson House ~ 7pm - Discussion on possibilities wrt Hodgson House  This house was built in 1913.  The WV Historical Society and the WV Museum and Archives retrieved many heritage items and records before it was barged away to Vancouver Island.  Unfortunately, its fate is now uncertain owing to unforeseen circumstances.  Preservation still possible?  Add to Heritage Precinct mooted along Argyle waterfront (if GLH moved)?

***  SATURDAY FEB 26th GLH at 2pm  ***   DWV HERITAGE AWARDS at the Museum!  ***

where many volunteer and cmnty groups are eager to tell you about what they do and how they contribute to our cmnty life -- North Shore Lifeboat Society, WV Historical Society, ......  Plans are afoot for some entertainment or activities there too!  Phone 604 922 4400 for info and to reserve a table for Heritage Fayre

--->Top off the week with a free snowshoe trek and BBQ up Cypress Sunday 3:30!  (Pray for snow and reserve 922 0825 x780)

Ambleside has a video of the making of the Lions' Gate Bridge while Dina's Hair Vogue has the book;  engineering drawings of the bridge at Red Horses in Dundarave;  photos at Caulfeild Gallery in the Caulfeild Village.......  Selected restaurants are participating too....

See flyer and website for details

I frequently tramped eight or ten miles through the deepest snow to keep an appointment with a beech-tree, or a yellow birch, or an old acquaintance among the pines.

                -- Henry David Thoreau, naturalist and author (1817-1862)