=  As you know, DWV ccl mtgs are broadcast on Shaw (Ch 4) on Tuesdays following the Monday night ccl mtg starting at 9pm.  The ccl mtgs start at 7pm on Mondays and sometimes broadcast live.  Shaw has resumed rebroadcasting on Tuesday even when broadcast live (they'd discontinued during the move).

=  Get informed, ask questions, finally first info on the new cmnty centre (38Ksf with $16m in financial plan), 60,000 sq ft including the space for the Coastal Health Authority. The shocking news at Monday's ccl mtg was that the current plan does not accommodate badminton, volleyball, or basketball.  Result of lack of public input, open houses?  had them for the Aquatic Centre (half the money)!

Also astonishing to learn is that the badminton clubs (some members having played for 30 years) told staff over a year ago that Gleneagles was not suitable b/c of the glass (glare, cdn't see shuttlecock, etc) yet staff did not tell Sports/Rec Fac Planning Cmte. [See discussion, Item 5.3 of Mar 7 ccl mtg notes below]

Good news: Ccl mbrs on Cmte (VD, JF, Sop) were unaware (till residents spoke up at Mar 7th mtg), and charged staff with coming up with a solution.

MESSAGE: involve and inform residents earlier!  Let them speak, provide helpful/particular knowledge.

=  The 1913 Hodgson House was saved, taken to Vancouver Island, then illness cancelled plans.  Can we get it back?  find $15 to 55K needed initially?  Deadline this week?  Call 925 7095 (museum) for info and to help.

On top of that, the D/Fin did describe this document as a 'moving' plan b/c it is anticipated that a ten-year plan will be formulated at the end of the year. [See Item 5.2 and PQP, in Mar 7 ccl mtg transcript below]

Maybe anticipating possible changes as a result of the municipal elections in November???

Please ask to see the new five-year plan.

Please compare it with the ten-year plan released in 2000 with this one.

(Hint: try to find the estimate re parking in 2000 wch has now cost over $7m an amount not included in the Aquatic Centre total nor the cmnty centre as far as we can see.  Nice little surprise.)

Please compare the estimated costs of projects in 2000 (touted as 'set in stone' at $45m for the ten years with virtually nothing to be spent in 2004 and 2005) and the actual costs of those projects (only recently got a 'revised 2003' plan that has some).

If you can do all this and get your ideas/input to Ccl in the next week, CONGRATULATIONS!

Call us and we'll try to fit in the time to treat you to a drink as a reward.

Let Ccl know if you've had enough time, if you need more time, what you think of the estimates and the timing.

After all, it's your money.

=  PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MTG @ 7pm

ZONING AMENDMENT BYLAW / DEVT PERMIT re 1891 Marine Drive to rezone to multiple dwelling

=  PRESENTATION re WV Substance Abuse Prevention Initiative

=  J. P. Fell Pipe Band Society (staff recommend official status be denied!)

=  Final Report - BC Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform

=  CORRESPONDENCE -- Minutes: Sports/Rec Fac Planning, CSAC, EAC; Letters: fighting city hall, Ambleside Park, Cypress Park and 2010; Evelyn Drive; WV Family Place; Homelessness; NSh Hospice; petitions re Badminton Facilities at New Rec Centre (b/c staff said there won't be!); construction opposite 2135 Argyle; Farmers' Market in Dundarave; proposed highrise 2100 block Argyle; Sea to Sky Hwy Expansion; Bilingualism and French Power; Ccl Mtg minutes not recording PQP questions or answers.

~ 5pm ~ HAC at Hall

= WEDNESDAY, 9th =

~ 8:30am ~ Sports & Rec Fac Planning at Hall -- New Cmnty Centre on agenda!

~ 6pm ~ PEAC (rescheduled from Mar 2nd) at Hall (but no Amb Town Ctr even though referred!)

= THURSDAY, 10th =

~ 7pm ~ WVCGG invites Ccl to answer your questions at the SAC

= SATURDAY, 12th =

~ 2 - 2:30pm ~ Don Luxton (author of books on LGB and early BC architecture) speaking on the Lions' Gate Bridge @ WV Museum with historic and contemporary photos

~ 8pm ~ Pacific Baroque Orchestra @ WV United Church (info 215 0406)

= TUESDAY, 15th =

~ 8 - 9:30am ~ "Strategic Sales Alliances", retail marketing seminar at Chamber

~ 3:30 ~ YAC at Hall

~ 6pm ~ Opening Reception at FBG, "Wild Abandon", Mixed Media by Jill McRae (to Mar 27)

~ 7pm ~ CSAC in Council Chamber

= WEDNESDAY, 16th =

~  7:30am ~ WV Ch of Commerce's Breakfast Meeting at Hollyburn Country Club

Nancy is a former Chair of both Tourism Vancouver and Vancouver Coast and Mountains (major Destination Marketing Organizations) and co-creator of the Council of Tourism Associations (COTA).  She will share stories of how she successfully built her business and expanded into other parts of the country with other tourism related offerings. Nancy will describe her vision for marketing the North Shore as a destination and provide insight as to what we need to do and what steps we need to market ourselves starting now in preparation for 2010 and beyond.   Call 926 6614 to reserve.

~ 8:30am ~ Sports & Rec Fac Planning at Hall -- New Cmnty Centre on agenda again?

~ 5pm ~ PAC at the Srs' Centre (Ev Dr and Wetmore??? check to see when agenda posted)

~ 5:30 ~  Finance Adv Cmte at Hall (but remember I was told their mandate not to comment on budget or five-year plan -- go figure!)

~ 7pm ~ Bd of Variance in Ccl Chamber (see addresses affected on website)

= THURSDAY, 17th =

~ 6pm ~ Family Court & Youth Justice Cmte (CNV M Hall)

~ 7pm ~ Author Visit at the Library: Sandra Harper, author of "[Travelling] the Sun: A Healing Journey to Morocco, Tunisia, and Spain"

~ 7:30 ~ WV Streamkeepers - Public Mtg at St Stephen's (885 - 22nd)

Speaker: Brian Smith of the Seymour Hatchery

= FRIDAY, 18th =

~ 7:30 ~  La Candela, Cuban band, with reception at the Library; call 925 7402

= SATURDAY, 19th =

~ 2pm ~ Artist's Talk at FBG (Exhibit "Wild Abandon" to Mar 27)

                                transcript typed during mtg on a best efforts basis

[Agenda amended to add letters and 8.2 re Transportation Cmte]

+  ADOPTION OF MINUTES - 3.1       Council Meeting Minutes, February 21, 2005

4.         DELEGATIONS

WP gave a slide presentation; gave thanks for opportunity, said in three parts:

        =  What is Hospice Palliative Care?

        =  The Current NSh Reality     

        =  Hopes and Dreams for future

holistic blend of the physical, social, emotional, and spiritual at the end of their lives

those living or dying with advanced illness

provides improved quality of care and comfort

palliation

effort made to create a home-like environment

acute palliative care is a drug regime

Some go to LGH ("Seven West") but it's not a hospice

no free-standing hospice on North Shore

Society formed in 1982

we act as an advocate for dying and their families

provide public education and support

annual honour life service at Srs' Centre, early Dec, where people who've lost loved ones can come and provide an opp for them to celebrate life of person they've lost

support research and provision of direct care

av length of time (patient in LGH Seven West) seven days

I'll turn this over to Doug Sabourin

works with Family Services of the North Shore

[Doug Sabourin talked about the integration, working together]

well over 100 volunteers

average length of time volunteers serve, ten years.

partnerships with many other societies: V Coastal Health, Cdn Cancer

need a free-standing hospice

a hospice is a place where a person can die with dignity

Back to Mr Penny

WP: need operating dollars starting April 1

initial funding for ward at LGH

reconfiguring Seven West Ward

capital raising campaign; wd take 18 mos to two years

concept endorsed by CNV and DNV

symbolic support for a free-standing hospice

Mayor: size?

Ans: original a ten-bed ward to be expanded to 15

Mayor: just attended an event Lions Gate Hosp Fdn and they raised a lot of money, $100K, what are you looking for?

Ans: we're looking for $2-5m

Mayor: cd be in competition

Ans: want to work in cooperation

recognized there is a need for this other kind of care

JF: need; what benefits free-standing as opposed to incorporated in health care services?

Ans: different kind

in hospital acute and clinical care

in a hospice, symptoms and pain under control so different kind of care, more spiritual, psychological

hospice wd be integrated but a separate service

Sop: on hospital grounds?

Ans: cd be LGH or Coastal Health Authority

ideally near hospital

Sop: Society wd run it? rent-free?

Ans: no decisions have been made on that yet

many in Vancouver are managed by St James Society

new one in Richmond will be managed by Salvation Army and Rotary

Sop: $2m?

Ans: strictly capital

good chunk of operating dollars from govt

fund-raising strategy upfront and longterm rev streams

Sop: looking for $$$

Ans: support for concept

Sop: money coming from Coastal Health Authority so what's the need from us?

Ans: moving ahead with the idea of a hospice on the NShore

important issue be raised and Ccl be aware

RD: my understanding is there is a hospice facility, top floor of LGH

friend was going there, understand seven or eight

Ans: palliative

several years ago, 16 beds operating as palliative care and hospice

three years ago cuts made and four beds were closed on the ward and decision was made no longer to provide hospice service

seven or eight of the beds are acute/palliative and the other four acute care, emergency

gridlock in emergency

RD: impression I was having, he was dying, he did die

might not get bed

not unreasonable to ask for more beds for whole of North Shore

JC: seems to me that having the support of the Ccls on the NSh will go some distance in fundraising

Ans: yes

JC: so I wd move support in principle

VD: can't imagine anybody not supporting a hospice on the NShore; the only correct thing to do, the right thing to do

not sure where the money's going to come from to operate it

vague

surprised we need Ccl motion for support

can't imagine anybody being against

many cities and townships have these

last few days before you die, shd be in comfortable surroundings

wish you luck in raising funds

7:29

JMacC: I'm here representing the Coho Festival with other members and a special guest

we have a brief report then ask to be given a two or three more minutes to present Ccl with a handsome gift to commemorate 25 years of working together

started as a small group of biz people; has grown into a major happening on the NSh

celebrating the 25th anniversary of effort to bring wild salmon back to NSh streams

highlights of eventful year, involving cmnty leaders, local govts, biz, educ interests, env'tal across NSh

the salmonid enhancement activities through the year: a banquet at Sq, Festival, schools, campaign of awareness

mbrs, sponsors, 300 volunteers

winding up the 25th anniv celebration, grants totally $25K for fish culture programs in schools, support for hatcheries and streamkeeper groups

$1K per year for each of the past 25 years

thank Ccl and staff mbrs who have worked closely and effectively with agencies, dvprs and local streamkeepers, and residents in general who have worked to bring salmon back

still much work to be done to bring salmon back to historical levels

present print of return of salmon by famous Daniel Izzard who is here, WV resident, passionate environmentalist, great concern for natural environment, long been a supporter of the Coho Society....

[PRESENTATION OF PRINT]

Mayor: Daniel has also contributed to the District for presentations

[APPLAUSE]

JMacC: we can't say enough about M staff in this

Sop: I spend a few years with the Coho Festival and early days cdn't find who to give money to -- not much money; with Ch of Commerce

moved it away from Ch

see a son out their with his father following in footsteps; great to see the folks here after all these years

[THANKS]

7:39

5.         REPORTS

RECOMMENDED:  THAT

1.         The Environmental Strategy be endorsed in principle;

2.         The Strategy be forwarded to Council's Planning, Parks and Environment and Engineering Advisory Committees for information; and

[SJN introduced Jim Bailey, Asst Planner, and Steve Jenkins, Env'tal Coord]

JB: as we've worked on this we've seen a real care about

Sj: clear started in early 1900s with park dedication in Lower Caulfeild

timely Mr MacCarthy was here

fish ladders at McDonald Crk

relationships we've had with cmnty groups such as WV Streamkeepers [great]

recently adopted Pesticide Bylaw shows care

congratulate Ccl

JB: need for coordination

Env'tal Strategy

coordinate existing env'tal initiatives

informs cmnty

identifies and establishes actions for implementation

focuses thought and processes

set priorities

est process to monitor progress

coordinates resources

devt was very coop and collaborative

staff working cmte

this strategy is part of District's commitment

Objectives and Actions:

some -- lead by example (eg Blue Bus and DWV facilities); promote more sustainable land stewardship (provide residents with info/brochures); protect and enhance creek habitat and corridors (considering DP process); promote sustainable water use; promote tree and forest stewardship; protect and enhance foreshore; promote sustainable energy use; promote and provide sustainable transportation options; reduce greenhouse [effects]; reduce pesticide use, waste; promote recycling

Summaries: actions, budgetary implications

SJ: b/c much ongoing, staff has already absorbed

rough budget taking to next level

what to acknowledge work my compadre has done on this, Jim Bailey

strength has been that all of us have been involved in this but recog him for special work

Sop: special places, where tunnel, wetlands....?

SJ: you'll see an env'tally sensitive area strategy

Sop: recreational playground in upper portion? hillside to be forevermore green? intent?

Storm Mgmt, you talk about water being polluted

why do we permit devprs to re-groom, prevent percolation

SJ: storm water early science, way to go

working with devprs such as Brit Pacific Properties

setting ourselves up not to have probs in first place

Sop: so possibility seeing some changes

SJ: that's correct

Sop: stricter rules?

SJ: that's up to Ccl

Sop: I'm dreaming....

vehicles will increase 60% over next few years

major ribbon of transportation ever increasing through our cmnty

what are we going to do to alter that?

SJ: Ccl has already taken that step by strategic plan; Engg plan

our $100K is chunk to get started on that plan

JF: thx; ambition, striking; know it was OCP

know rest don't look at WV as env'tal but when going through OCP review it was a v important principle, perhaps b/c we live in a beautiful cmnty

really proud of this cmnty that they have been the driving force behind this

looking forward to the response from the adv bodies

looking forward to hearing how implementation is going

JB: initial vision is to report back, almost like a report card

in a year, this is where we've made progress and here's where we can do better

eg what's water consumption like

looking forward to reporting back in a year

G-J:  ...depts energized; operationalizes the OCP; having just attended an env'tal conf at UBC sponsored by UBCM

one of the problems is how do you take what you know and change your behaviour

here we are doing that

matches two areas for improvement from Synovate Survey last year -- for those who had issue with Ccl's progress, managing growth and env'tal protection

go hand in hand

Bob Purdy at conference challenged us; sustainable solutions

high enquiry, low advocacy

this strategy is a new approach

can't wait to get going on it, tyvm

VD: as motion hasn't been made, wait but now ask questions

on p 42, you're suggesting 28000 acres of M land will go into green zone

what does that really do?  who will control? pay to maintain?

SJ: the green zone is the GVRD's initiative, accumulating all of the green space

pay, M?

alterations wd go to GVRD, discussion around it

not sure of formalities of taking it out of Green Zone; cdn't answer that q tonight

MMgr: that wd come back to Ccl, Ccl cd endorse principles

not necessarily require GVRD approval to make changes

discussion Ccl will have in future

this just flags that we have all these green zones

VD: the report actually says, recommended action is to include this 28,000

Mayor: 2800

sustainable energy use on p 51, persuading people reducing energy consumption but don't notice under recommended actions

see we're going to promote geothermal by reduction of fees or grants

don't control hydro or gas consumption, only see water

not quite sure what all this means

also says about high use, single occupancy,

sprawl, somewhere it refers to it

low density nbrhds

well, WV hasn't got any sprawl; we've sprawled

some words taken out of other people's reports

can think of some that have that description but doesn't apply to WV

figures can prove anything

making a point here re registered veh owners increasing by 60% but you don't say popn will increase by [??? waves hands] classic taken out of context

we're going to spend apparently $40K for public consultation re a cycling plan but if you listen to Vancouver, they're going to spend loads of money on a cycling plan and it will affect about 1 or 2% of traffic problem they've got and they're spending a fortune

not sure how you can get across this M on an easier route

how can get one for $40K?  concerns

what is this plan?  get us out of our cars? to go downtown? cycle from Caulfeild to Amb to shopping and then cycle all the way back

not sure

JB: identify ways and means easier, on cycles if they wish

provide info so ppl know there's an easy way to go from A to B

devping infrastructure then letting people know

initial thought at this stage

Mayor: Cclr Durman, you and I getting close to retirement so not thinking of cycling

VD: my parents had a bicycle factory, had a bicycle in Tour de France

cycle on my holiday prop cuz flat

but here -- fast, downhill; brakes!

EB: look at routes safer eg LGB

$40K say doesn't go a long way but leverage, get funds elsewhere

gain access to dollars

cycling plan

Ken Farquharson: speaking without seeing the report

but the magnificent forests WV is custodian of, particularly in our upland area, shd be mentioned in one of the specific objectives

historically WV is not without responsibility of some adversities of what has happened to those forests, that, eg Cypress Bowl, golf courses in our old-growth forests, etc

important this M be seen as upfront in protection of those magnificent forests it has on Crown land, municipal land, undeveloped land

WVites already already recycle about half; very good

WV has been in the forefront

wonderful waterfront parks; used to play with my kids down there, far too long ago but it's three times the size now

we've protected the foreshore; we've built trails to make this place beautiful

you can see it from all over mainland

WV's been careful or wdn't be so good

not perfect but done well

pesticide control, creek protection, etc

thank staff; OCP better than before

happy to make motion.

VD: friendly amendment

heard Cclr Day say this was a draft env'tal strategy so surely it shd say 'draft' (1)

surprised being sent for information so wd like to ask adv cmtes for comment (2)

send to public and add ask for comment (3)

surprised only giving one month

it's a draft, some things need to be changed

(4) back May 1st

MMgr: understand in light of moving forward

Sop: p 42, work with GVRD to include most of 2800 acres in the Green Zone

do we know precisely what the GZ is?

in spite of something coming back to Ccl; don't know why have to work with any other--

SJ: we accept this as something for discussion, no obligation

Sop: but motion to accept in principle?

Mayor: draft

Sop: don't know implications of tie in with GVRD

MMgr: if Ccl more comfortable with this report being received then opportunity

RD: agree

remember GZ is a zone, not a park

let's deal with it later

come back and tell us more about it

Sop: all earmarks of a good report but if obligated to work with some other org, anybody else, 2800 acres of public land ownership, I don't like that

rather receive

I know it's good work; maybe we can have some info what GVRD really thinks about this

G-J: a little disappointed considering receive not endorse but accept it's consensus position

this is just sort of saying accepting high level principles, importance of report

these are the big issues

[quotes no 5] presently DWV/we don't have a forest mgmt plan so that's part of work undertaking

let's keep momentum; look forward to its coming back May 1st

looking forward to what all these cmtes have to say.

8:21

           Designated Presenter:  Director of Finance  (to be provided in Supplemental Agenda)

MMgr: just to interrupt but think Dir Fin meant 2005 wrt commencement of construction of cmnty centre

Mayor: p 64-2?

RL: --

proposal within rec centre did not appear in previous plan is a proposed lease of space to Coastal Health Region but will be completely covered by a lease from prov

the general infrastructure program, major maintenance, continues, envelope approach, will be increased by $200K annually, will be fully funded from general operation

water and sewer plan carried forward intact, fully funded within user rates

cemetery expansion plan, linked to resources from cemetery fund and will not affect taxation budget

golf will become a standalone; proposal for clubhouse catering facility intended to be fully funded from golf resources but not yet in this plan b/c scope/costing not complete -- then will incorporate

DCCs on hand, and expectation resources generated by cmnty benefits framework Ccl adopted late last year

at that point, once we have that document in place we will be looking at that plan and reviewing it every year so it will continue to be a ten-year 'moving' plan.

JF made motion for Ccl to receive with public input to March 14th; incorporation in revised bylaw for Ccl consideration on 21st.

JC: question about commence construction this year, when heard MMgr

Mayor: of?

VD: hear a worry

cd I just add one point

the plan I'm going to talk about in next item

if for some reason

plan such can actually have their space pulled out without affecting our plans

Ccl will not consider building until firm commitment from Health

JC: tyvm

Sop: responsible re this budget

this year going to work from on further five years and attach five onward

we have $1.8m in this budget for house on Argyle but not for next five years, next block, Amb area, open space

if we have discussions re devising how, won't come into effect until 2009

wondering what value of props will be

we'll be looking at substantial cost

can't we look at some immediate way to get funds to acquire prop or borrow?

RL: this plan will be reviewed every year during the budget process

understand original program is under discussion to follow that policy

if Ccl decides to review, will be done each year, not wait till 2009

Sop: where wd money come from?

RL: not identified wch is why only one in plan

Sop: capital infrastructure, started out with $600K then to $2m

G-J: budget in great shape, a few gaps

looking at a possible visual arts gallery, possible reno of Silk Purse,...

as well have to look at Police Bldg

G-J: some we don't want public to feel we've lost the thread of, we just need to do a bit more research.

8:37

            Designated Presenter:  Councillor Durman  (to be provided in Supplemental Agenda)

[Rather unusual, but instead of having the presentation first, then Ccl questions, then public comment, the Mayor called for public input first -- so they have to speak without the benefit of hearing/seeing what was planned.  Maybe the Mayor did it b/c the names were on the Speakers' List.]

Marny Peirson: I'm speaking on behalf of a number of badminton players

it is our understanding badminton will not be included in new rec centre, no gym for badminton, volleyball, basketball, etc.; will be a large gym with equipment permanently set up

when we questioned where we'd go, staff they said looking at schools or Hollyburn Country Club; we feel schools too busy during day, and Club inconvenient

many of us have been playing badminton at the present rec centre for over 30 years and we strongly object to this decision to take away our badminton facility

we still haven't seen any of the plans for this expensive new facility as the planned public mtg was postponed so there has been little information released

As taxpayers we strongly object to this limited use of the future gym by one interest group

also the decision seems driven by the profit motive and larger numbers rather than providing facilities for the recreation of residents.

like to point out NV has many places for playing badminton so we feel WV shd provide the same

Terry Collins (sp?):  I'll basically reiterate what Marny just said

new gym, came to our notice there wd be no facilities

our Friday aft badminton club's been there for 30 years and now mostly retirees and trying to keep well and fit and wd like to stay there

with all the money that will be spent, we were not included and not advised either, upset our grp

feel this new cmnty centre shd provide for everybody if they choose to use it

worries me, shortly, where will babyboomers go?

will we all be fighting for the three courts at Gleneagles wch doesn't even lend itself for badminton

with its great glass wall, all very pretty with glass but not practical

research what to do while our rec centre down, impressed with what NV had to offer

here we are putting something fancy up; instead of six courts, three

here it's being taken away

ask you to rethink this

JC: how many mbrs do you have?

Ans: 26

JC: same club?

Ans: yes

Elaine Fonseca: there are three badminton groups playing at the rec centre, we're not the only one

I've been playing there for 15 years, strong club, growing

surprised to learn not going to be facilities for us to play

Gleneagles, not close and not adequate, not central, poorly designed

wall of glass, impossible to play on

as residents, we've paid a lot of taxes

feel shd be included in this $16m

there's basketball, keep fit, ....

we have a large number who use the WV facility

find it quite amazing that there's just going to be one small gymnasium for gymnastics groups

if we're paying taxes, we shd all be included

Mr Lennick/Lennox (sp?) is in audience -- well known for tennis and badminton, Olympics

son Grant played in Sydney; had his start here

for us to produce more athletes, we have to have more facilities

not just for gymnastics

wd like to see plans

understand demolished in June and built in August

Mayor: next

EF: that's what we were told, our badminton groups, perhaps incorrect

wd like to be told we'd have at least three courts, not lose facility

VE: the cmte has seen some plans, the architect is still working on it

we're fitting the boxes together

we're seeing what we can fit on site

how we can spend $16m; how we can  accommodate the most people we can

whole plan (RFMP) over last five or six years

was to spread out the facilities so Gleneagles not just for west and centre for east

centres wd for particular purposes

at the end of the day we'll have two full gyms and one smaller one, about 15ft high

that's what's being proposed

will have a typical gym floor, so that floor hockey, floor types of things, keep fit sorts of things can utilize

it is true to say that basketball, volleyball, and badminton is being planned to be put out to Gleneagles Cmnty Cntre ; the reason for doing that is a lot of people want a 'dynamics' gym, a full-sized gym.  Also used by skateboarders, weightboarders, etc...  run up to the Olympics.

that's a problem we've been addressing b/c equipment has to be stored outside and brought back in for one badminton group then put back in; it's wearing the equipment out

we have one full mega-sized gym at Gleneagles

first time I've heard that concern about badminton at Gleneagles; investigate to see how to fit it in...

my son's into basketball and ev school has basketball; volleyball is the same

solutions can be found

we were unaware the badminton grp feels Gleneagles inappropriate from the point of view of playing

if glass a problem, we'll look into that

idea is to spread services throughout the cmnty

people in west who've been driving into the centre for the last, uh, ever, it's only seven minutes away

running about a month behind

JF, Sop, on cmte, myself as Chair, and a number of members of the public

meet Wed at 8:30 welcome to come to cmte mtgs

wd be happy to meet with badminton group, take them into account

what we're asking for in this report is to move forward to a detailed planning of the project from an architectural point of view, so we can get to costing, have done rough

we believe amount in budget will build us a 38/39K sf cmnty centre as planned

there is a process; Ccl to give final approval July 30, construction start in Oct; project completed sometime in 2007

fundamentals of project, 38/39Ksf, flexibility built into it

so that all users

all space can be adapted to help fit different groups into it so no one group will be able to take control of one area, or permanent use

we probably cd do with a 50-60Ksf bldg; if everybody wanted to have their identified space, but the cmnty can't afford that

so we've tried to tailor the cmty desires

 to how we cd design that into the bldg and the only way is total flexibility

full-sized gym but if we see activity drifting away, that can be reverted into a full-sized operational gym

will have a smaller one

alongside that will be a Youth Centre

considerable discussion re future of one in Amb Park

will be a number of large cmnty rooms; 12 to 120-140 people, can be broken down; smaller rooms 60 pple; all the things that go on, programming; very complicated issue

arts on top floor, skylights north so they can get perfect light

children's area, family services, uh--

Mayor: Is some of this going to be covered in the PowerPoint?

VD: shd be b/c not detail

going to be 100 parking spaces under the building

planned room for WV Band (been in operation for 75 years) and any other user wanting to practice

20K sf for Health is in addition to the 38Ksf

joined to swimming pool and Srs' Centre, by way of atrium

srs' daycare centre

this will be a state of the art cmnty centre; many will look at and say the blending of health, srs, youth will be a major step forward

this report goes through a number of cmnty principles and projects, etc

biggest problem we face as a cmnty is that if we don't move forward at great speed, cost of this bldg increasing at 1% per month b/c of inflation of construction costs; we look around and wonder if we'll be able to build building as planned within the time level and cost

need to move forward to design stage; need to get to point of making the decision

how much this bldg's going to cost and if this Ccl's going to do this

everything will be joined together by this beautiful atrium, glass on north and south sides

operational efficiencies in this; geothermal efficiencies

cmte is still in design stage and therefore that is why there are no plans

so that's why not being presented to public; in flux

except for design attached to report wch is out of date b/c parking being added and stuff being moved around

when we get there will be an open house and public can come along and make comment in a couple of weeks

 

Mayor:?

MMgr: we have a staff presentation

8:59

KP introduced Ralph Ferstay, Linda Shaw, and Jocelyn Ray (sp?):

Ralph Ferstay:  overview of cmnty centre planning

vision, principles partnership, prog, etc

Vision: informal and social spaces

bldg designed will be centre of cmnty, large and small events, perhaps Cmnty Day even Coho Festival

bldg designed to be exciting and dynamic in terms of space, usage, and use of glass, and those kinds of design characteristics --

fully accessible facility to meet future and changing needs

multi use spaces, flexible and diverse, can respond to future trends

wide range of progs and services, hub of cmnty and site

efficiently designed, complementary

Principles: to meet greatest cmnty benefit

youth friendly; etc; lease, cost recovery

integrated approach

no ownership; cost recovery

will meet time line, budget, and quality requirements

Partnership: benefits longterm, continuum of services with Vancouver Coastal Health Authority

integrated, opp for new/joint.....

one-stop centre for health options...

Linda Shaw: in terms of articulating the 38Ksf

looking at large gymnasium

Program

-gymnasiums -- martial arts, fencing, etc [slide with drawing], can also be used for gatherings; design changerooms (men's gets used a lot now but now women's)

- multipurpose rooms: dance fitness; yoga, Pilates, chair exercises; tai chi

Youth Area [slide] similar to space in Amb, similar to other cmnties,  kitchen, place to hangout, mtg alcove, etc

Arts Area: exciting for us, three-dimensional, know some changes, know Music Box on Argyle will come down and we'll be taking some of those programs as well as ones from Klee Wyck; stonecarving, sculpture, etc

two-dimensional; drawing, arts, crafts

youth want to do something with wood, bicycles

small space for music classes -- have guitar and piano going on now

Entry and Social Areas: Cclr Durman has spoken of atrium; change way register

Separately-Funded spaces: small cafe, leased space; Cmnty Music Hall rec with Youth Band exciting re joint fundraising; rehab, bone density, kinesiology being considered

RF: Vancouver Coast Health Authority Services

assessment and treatment services; adult cay care, primary care clinic

chn and youth

outreach services, et public health nurses

Linda Shaw: Transition

when ppl started hearing about bldg coming down started hearing about what groups wanted

intent of transition to provide for long-standing groups

badminton long time, consider

rent, some cost in extending hours

want to use existing facilities, Gleneagles (pottery will be moved there during transition; lapidary will be going there for sure); civic central nbrhd -- churches, etc; leased spaces

efforts but all will have to make some adjustments

in the local area, SAC, arena; looking at Pauline Johnson, WV United Church, etc

Gleneagles, Library, Mulgrave

gives you feel for complexity of transition

Jocelyn Wray/Rae/Ray (sp?): easy to pull a bldg down

key part of our cmnty, 47 years, year I was born

many people have made this their recreational home; important to send off with dignity, remembered and respected

will call it "The Rec Ball"

we've got enough ideas for a couple of months, eg if you bring your own screwdriver and take off a doorknob, it's yours!

pieces of the bldg are important and some want to take things away, gardens too, so maybe an auction

Recognition

set up a speakers' corner

ppl here in 1958, give memories

awards for significant achievement -- v active, maybe oldest, youngest, one registered in most progs

our alumni

dignity, history, sense of place

Ralph: two time capsules we know of

one in front lawn by girl guides; and Heinz Berger says one in wall put in in 1958

working on schematic design

enough activities to carry us through

construction in fall

Sop: I know in cmte, understanding of centre, meaning to cmnty

flexibility came up wrt to space

difficulty wrt space, allocating space; tough decisions

re a full-sized gymnasium -- is that etched in stone

Ralph: recomm staff is making to maximize participants

45 years of history

looking at resources, eg Gleneagles

Sop: specifically looking at badminton if groups find GCC not to their liking is there anything we can do with their considerations of not being able to play there

Ralph: blinds, under review

Sop: looking at timetable; two years not having space; sooner we can get organized

planned demolition in fall

MMgr: we do have a joint agreement with the schools

opp there to provide space; pursuing that

Mayor: wd like to acknowledge Debbie Ryan in the audience, a key mbr of the executive of the NSh Health Group and wd like to thank Debbie and her team bring this whole thing forward to this point

accommodating on our site, thank you very much

VD: I wd like to add, staff has done a superb amount of work, answers to questions posed, sent them back a number of times for alternatives

congratulate everybody working v v hard to provide facilities while ripped down and then best facility we can in future

G-J: obvious how much work has gone into this, appreciate that

hope you don't think difficult or obstructionist

KP: you'll recall in late 90s, extensive consultation, 12 diff cmtes how a cmnty cntre wd function; at that time not even determined first or second, what kind, but did do Aquatic Centre

plan to go out to cmnty to get reaction to what developed so far; particularly to youth whose interests and desires change it seems fairly rapidly

not say we're going back to the original consultation, what we did before b/c we've done a huge amount before

G-J: how realistic to use school gyms; understand difficult for kids, even for school teams -- now v early, days out, nights at a premium; how realistic cd run badminton, volleyball, basketball?

KP: asking them that very question

only sch boards have times/usage; we're in early stages of determining what other resources might be possible; GCC wd be our daytime use

currently looking at probs experience, ppl like badminton have identified; hope to have solution soon

G-J: laudable goal, better use of facilities, but seems some type of agreement shd be in place before operating under assumptions we are so far

hope you can firm that up

statement in report about capital contributions, earlier said no ownership; is that beyond Vancouver Coastal Health Authority?

VD, instead of Pike: As it's my report...

some groups, such as the WVYouth Band have suggested they wd like specialized acoustics and they are willing to raise the money; they wd not have ownership of the space but wd have priority in renting the space

VD: we'll be providing necessary info so Ccl can make viable decision by end of July

JF: I too wd like to congratulate the staff, dealing with cmte on weekly basis

considering staring with expansion of Aquatic Centre, Gleneagles; just been work, work, work

understand exhausting, grateful to everyone

looking back to 1998/99, original report; long time and ppl thrilled about to take place

understand there are going to be some problems; for ppl using for 47 years, stressful

hope we can all work through this together

set July 25th?

VD: I didn't actually look at my calendar

RD: minor point, okay, just b/c I was going to be away

[last ccl mtg before summer break]

hope with add'l parking, any hope for lawn back where parking now?

9:36

5.4       Development Variance Permit No. 05-002 (8540 Citrus Wynd)

RECOMMENDED: THAT the Municipal Clerk give notice that Development Variance Permit Application No. 05-002 (8540 Citrus Wynd), which would provide for a new house with variances to highest building face, height, setbacks and in-law suite location will be considered at the

SJN: waterfront property, somewhat steep; to reduce impact; length of time for sewage treatment plant; once expired technically have to go through process again so recommend advertise again.

9:38

5.5       Youth Advisory Committee (YAC) 2005 Workplan (File:  0115-20-YAC01)

RECOMMENDED:  THAT

 1.         The Youth Advisory Committee proposed work plan be received for information;

 2.         The General Council Committees Policy in Section 13.5 be amended with respect to the annual reporting period for the Youth Advisory Committee to read:

 "d)       excepting the Youth Advisory Committee which will submit its report and plan each year based on its term of October 1 to June 30."

KP: report recently, in addition to that

RD: as CSAC liaison, impressed, good work, involved in a lot of things

projects, youth, get them out on weekend

priorities

Mayor: Mr Pike, you'll get back to us

KP: we will

JC: under Item 6 they plan with Police Dept and Restorative Justice Cmte, recommend also meet with Family Court and Youth Justice b/c broad spectrum

Mayor: good suggestion

RD: think they do

they also have representation on sev cmtes like CSAC and others

9:42

            (to be provided in Supplemental Agenda

EB gave background and said deadline for submission dates so asking Ccl's approval

Sop: I&I in this cmnty, have a five-year to look at upgrade

will we do resealing around manhole covers where not properly sealed, general overhaul project?

why when we did seawall and work in last few years, why those problems still there?

some people by beach still problems

EB: the work we're applying for funds for is in areas where best benefit and probs most significant

ultimately the size of the interceptor still limited; situation recently of heavy rainfall and snowmelt, that's when you run into problems

intend to look at targeted areas

really want to reduce water getting into those areas

VD: think this is a great idea

following up on Cclr Sop's question is it's a prob we're trying to cure; shdn't have storm water backup in our sewer system

we have a split system

to stop storm water coming down and backing up wd be a great advantage and wd save us a lot of $$$

if it continues the sewer plant won't be big enough and GVRD will come along and want to build a bigger one

Annacis they're building one for about $1b!

grant will go a long way to help

JC: can see grout 160 manhole covers but how grout  19000 meters of sewer main!

don't say very carefully!

EB: took my answer;  it's a chemical grouting process

not completely familiar with system involved; run through pipes and does from inside

9:48

6.         BYLAWS

6.1       Business Licence Bylaw No. 3024, 1982 Amendment Bylaw No. 4403, 2004 - Odour and Noise Control  FOR ADOPTION

This Bylaw received third reading at the February 28, 2005 Council Meeting  ADOPTED

Further motion re Administrative Policy: Bylaw Enforcement on Odour/Noise Contravention be approved

9:50

7.         REPORTS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCILLORS

Mayor: understand there was a luncheon today re service by women in our cmnty and understand Dina Zeitler, in audience was awarded

on Tuesday advised members of Senate touring, and I was asked to make a presentation re defence to seven or eight senators, had three minutes; took opp to do wrt security re Olympics

in Salt Lake City 7 to 8000

alerted them to the fact that security way beyond our 80-man police force

revelation to them

so we'll see

JC: another Dina Zeitler story

attended annual ABA mtg last week where DZ was appointed prez so there again

group was very excited about part of Ambleside Core Review

concern apparent lack of parking bylaw enforcement

talked to them on Friday and was assured they're out there but they must be in camouflage

Sop: doing a bit of background work with Richard Kinnear, citizen who came forth re safety helmet standards across Canada

we as Ccl sent our recomm off to UBCM wch they supported, and off to fed, Min of Health out here, had chat with him and with Don Bell; sev ph calls

province is going to make an announcement; Hon Min of Industry Canada, Emerson, started in WV

2010  name of safety

Mayor: when?

Sop: March 21st

another org will make stmt about money

Safety Assn and Kids Canada; hope you and Ccl will be there to formalize this

large

G-J: Th and Fri at a UBC env'tal conference

Min Bill Barisoff and Min Geoff Regan not taking any questions

both went on and on for need for env'tal, M level

realizing expertise on ground

we need money and standards

kept going on about partnership

come into effect Mar 31st; survey showed that 90% ofMs not ready; govt not ready, guidebooks not ready; pilots not complete, training not ready from Malaspina College

think ev going to be asking for an extension, wd from deputy min perhaps three months, even that up for debate

wrap up with Bob Purdy of Fraser Basin Council

to the point now, same presentations again; up to us to get moving

great turnout

surprise, ppl from all over prov came re env'tal sustainability

9:58

Motion to extend mtg passed

...

8.1.22       H. & R. Peters, February 22, 2005, regarding International Olympic Committee Luncheon

VD: 8.1.22 congratulate her on letter to Premier we're not getting recognition

luncheon IOC cmte, we're host cmnty, mayors of Richmond, etc sitting there

embarrassed for you not there

maybe the fight over the tunnel is clouding how to deal with host cmnty

8.2

participating with CNV and DNV; involves two councillors from each cmnty: Cclrs Day and Sop offered to serve

9.         PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS

CR: Editor, West Van Matters

I'm sorry I've still got this terrible cold--

first of all, thank you, great to hear, have some idea, about the cmnty centre, and also to be informed of the different timeline b/c at the last Select Cmte [mtg Feb Mar 2], the presentation there had the same time table -- demolition in June and commencement in August

so I understand from that that's now been changed to longer time I suppose for more planning, so that's great

and I also wanted to thank Cclr Clark for mentioning about the biz case b/c I know Ray Richards and some others asked quite often about how the operating costs for future facilities will be accommodated

MMgr:  When we dealt with the Aquatic Centre and Gleneagles and the cmnty centre, at that time a biz case was provided to Ccl, and essentially the costs were apportioned, approx add'l operating costs o $250K per facility.

We also at that time identified sharing respective in terms of how paid for one third, one third, one third; subsequently looked at and revised by Ccl

so at this point, and we will be bringing forward further information, but the biz case and direction to staff was provided quite some time ago wrt this, whether biz plan, OCP, or facilities review cmte, we've been working on some of this for quite some time, so to be hearing requests for a biz for rebuilding the cmnty centre when that decision in my opinion was made a number of years ago

some

We can bring that information back, but as it stands we indicated the addi'l operating costs wd be in the neighbourhood of $250,000

If that changes, we'll certainly be bringing that back before Ccl as part of the information on the capital costs

CR: It's just that when that was brought up I wondered if that was going to be part of the open house

Mayor: it will be

CR: thank you very much

Mayor: Mr Manager.

MMgr: wrt referring the matter to the Finance Advisory Cmte, it's never been in the terms of reference for the FAC to do budget review, rather to review the process and some of the sort of initial framework we set up

I don't think that's necessary, but certainly wrt providing the cmnty with the opportunity for add'l time, I think the original recommendation provides for Ccl to be looking at this again on the 21st,

and certainly any cmnty or public input we receive up to that date we can bring to Ccl's attention and give Ccl the opportunity to amend the plan based on that input

CR: thank you; so there will be until the 21st

as far as FAC, I didn't necessarily mean it was for comment, but it's quite usual for you to send reports to various adv cmtes for their information

so okay we have till the 21st in fact.

thank you

Mayor: thank you

10. ADJOURNMENT a few minutes after 10pm.

The Director of Planning, Lands and Permits will describe the subject application:

Applicant:  Royal Developers Ltd.

Subject Lands:  1891 Marine Drive

Purpose:  To provide for a 3-storey, 10-unit residential building

Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment:  To rezone the property from R.M.2 Multiple Dwelling Zone 2 to R.M.L. 19 Multiple Dwelling Zone (Low Density) 19

Proposed Development Permit:  To regulate and impose conditions respecting the form and character of the development.

The Municipal Clerk will note written submissions received for the March 14, 2005 Public Hearing/Public Meeting, with respect to the proposed bylaw amendment and development permit application.

The applicant will be provided an opportunity to make a presentation on the subject application.

Closure of Public Hearing and Public Meeting

If there is no further public input,

RECOMMENDED:

THAT all written and verbal submissions regarding Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968 Amendment Bylaw No. 4413, 2005 and Development Permit Application No. 04? 024 (re 1891 Marine Drive) up to and including March 14, 2005 be received and that the Public Hearing and Public Meeting be closed.

OR

If Council wishes a further staff report, then:

             RECOMMENDED:

            THAT Staff report back to Council regarding the March 14, 2005, Public Hearing and Public Meeting re Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4413, 2005 and Development Permit Application No. 04-024 (re 1891 Marine Drive); and that the Public Hearing and Public Meeting be adjourned to ________________.

Members of Council are not permitted to receive further submissions once the Public Hearing is closed.

3.         ADOPTION OF MINUTES / 3.1  Council Meeting Minutes, February 28, 2005

4.         PRESENTATION

4.1       Presentation by West Vancouver School District Staff and School Board Representatives regarding West Vancouver Substance Abuse Prevention Initiative - Current Progress

RECOMMENDED: ...  be received.

5.         REPORTS

RECOMMENDED: ...be received for information.

RECOMMENDED:

THAT the request to the District of West Vancouver by the J. P. Fell Pipe Band to be appointed as the official North Shore Pipe Band be denied.

RECOMMENDED:... be received.

6.         REPORTS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCILLORS

7.         OTHER ITEMS

7.1.1         Committee and Board Meeting Minutes

(a)          Sports and Recreation Facilities Planning Select Committee, February 09, 2005

(b)          Sports and Recreation Facilities Planning Select Committee, February 23, 2005

(c)           Community Services Advisory Committee, February 01, 2005

(d)          Engineering Advisory Committee, February 15, 2005

7.1.2         N. Thompson, undated, regarding article "Maybe you can fight city hall"

7.1.3         D. A. Town, March 01, 2005, regarding improvements to Ambleside Park

7.1.4         A. Wallace, February 07, 2005, regarding Cypress Provincial Park and 2010 Olympics

7.1.5         P. Young, February 28, 2005, regarding Evelyn Drive

7.1.6         D. Samija, Community Services Manager for the North Shore, February 25, 2005, regarding West Vancouver Family Place

7.1.7         C. Prepchuk, Chair, Greater Vancouver Regional Steering Committee on Homelessness, February 25, 2005, regarding Greater Vancouver Homeless Count

7.1.8         A. Hilsen, Municipal Clerk, District of North Vancouver, February 22, 2005, regarding Support in Establishing a North Shore Hospice

7.1.9         W. N. K. Mainguy, March 02, 2005, regarding Marr Creek Project

7.1.10       Fourteen (14) signatures, March 02, 2005, regarding Petition for Badminton Facilities at New Recreation Centre

7.1.11       Fifteen (15) signatures, March 01, 2005, regarding Petition for Badminton Facilities at New Recreation Centre

7.1.12       L. Ma, March 02, 2005, regarding Bear Bylaw

7.1.13       J. M. Turner, February 27, 2005, regarding construction of building opposite 2135 Argyle

7.1.14       C. Slabbert, Bellevue Wine Company, March 02, 2005, regarding Farmers' Market in Ambleside

7.1.15       T. Thompson, March 02, 2005, regarding Proposed High Rise - 2100 Block Argyle

7.1.16       K. Erdman, March 03, 2005, regarding West Vancouver Family Place

7.1.17       M. Middlemass, March 04 and March 02, 2005, regarding Sea-to-Sky Highway Expansion

7.1.18       T. Collins, President, Friday Afternoon Badminton Club, March 01, 2005, regarding Badminton Facilities at new Recreation Centre

7.1.19       D. Sullivan, February 22, 2005, regarding Canada's Challenge - Official Bilingualism and French Power

                  Referred to Municipal Manager for consideration and response.

7.1.21       M. Matheusik, March 01, 2005, regarding delegation request for April 11, 2005

          Referred to the Municipal Clerk for response confirming scheduling of the delegation for the April 11, 2005 meeting.

8.         PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS

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