Herewith:  INFObits; gRUMBLING; Main Items Mar 21st (BROADCAST LIVE), 2005 Budget and $102m 5-Yr Plan, Lighthouse Park Implementation Strategy, Evelyn Dr, 1891 Marine; Calendar to Mar 26th; Ccl Mtg Mar 14th NOTES (1891 Marine and DWV's still awaited Cmnty Benefit Policy,  Substance Abuse Prevention); Evelyn Drive Update: New Cmnty Civic Centre Report; Mar 21st AGENDA; Quotation; Haiku

-  A resident asked Ccl at PQP about the $400K+ given to DWV from the prov for "community policing and safety" b/c he'd heard it had instead gone into 'general revenue'.  He didn't get a straightforward answer but the MMgr said that the Police are well-funded and receive all the funds they require.  The citizen's reasonable suggestion was that the money ought to have been put in a special account.  Then the public, Ccl, and the Police Dept cd discuss how they wd like the funds spent.  Lo and behold, the Mar 9th issue of NShNews (page 3) reports that in CNV's budget deliberations they will discuss the amount they got and it's listed as: "$412K unbudgeted", just as the resident had suggested ought to have been done with these extra provincial funds received earmarked for police and safety.  DNV's discussing a cmnty policing centre (p4 Outlook, Mar 17).  Over to you DWV!

=  Corporal Fred Harding, Cmnty Liaison with the WV Police Dept, is currently beginning a process by which he intends to reinvigorate the Business Watch program. He is very interested in hearing from businesses regarding what successes and what deficiencies have been noted by owners and operators. Please email him with comments and suggestions: 172@police.westvan.bc.ca

=  WV's 1913 Hodgson House's future uncertain; call Carol Howie (Museum 925 7298) for info and to help.

=  Carolanne Reynolds's dedication to Canadian heritage extends to language, as Pete McMartin noted in VSun (Sat Mar12 pB1).

+++++  gRUMBLING  ++++++++++ [the mandate, not the members!]

DWV's Finance Advisory Committee

NB:They don't refer the budget, they didn't refer the Five-Year Capital Plan released Mar 7th (and not even as an information item at the Mar 16th mtg),....  Let's hope not all poodles not always and not all muzzled -- It's so delightful, not just helpful and deserving our gratitude, when these experts use their skills on DWV's behalf......

=  DELEGATION: North Shore Super Cities Walk/Run for MS

=  REPORTS: Five-Yr Financial Plan Bylaw (to be introduced, go to third reading) {but why so soon? why so little time for public review?  $102m aggregate of taxpayers' money and doesn't need to be passed until midMay!}; Fund Application for Field Hockey ($1K); Lighthouse Park Implementation Strategy; Noise Exemption in Whytecliff Park; Evelyn Drive Master Plan Status and Next Steps

=  CORRESPONDENCE:  Minutes of LCAC, NSFCYJ, Sports/Rec Fac Planning; Mariah Energy Corp; South Marr Crk Devt; Evelyn Drive; Chelsea Subdivision; Clovelly Walk Heritage and Legacy; Badminton at new Cmnty Centre; Noise/Odours Bylaw; Twinning of Pt Mann Bridge; LMTAC; Biomass Biopower; Transportation Adv Cmte; First Nations Relations; E-Comm; FCM; South Marr Crk Devt; Survey on Local Govt Participation in Economic Devt; YVR Resolutions; Mosquito Control; serious traffic problem (trucks to Whitby); Fitness Challenge Evelyn Dr "Special Study Area for Possible Multifamily Housing".

= TUESDAY, 15th =

~ 8 - 9:30am ~ "Strategic Sales Alliances", retail marketing seminar at Chamber

~ 3:45pm ~ YAC at Hall talking about Eagleridge Bluffs, Restorative Justice, Helmet Safety

~ 6pm ~ Opening Reception at FBG, "Wild Abandon", Mixed Media by Jill McRae (to Mar 27)

~ 7pm ~ CSAC in Council Chamber discussing M Grant recommendations

~ check out Norooz at Ambleside Park and fire-jumping ~

= WEDNESDAY, 16th = so many mtgs!!!

~  7:30am ~ WV Ch of Commerce's Breakfast Meeting at Hollyburn Country Club

Nancy is a former Chair of both Tourism Vancouver and Vancouver Coast and Mountains (major Destination Marketing Organizations) and co-creator of the Council of Tourism Associations (COTA).  She will share stories of how she successfully built her business and expanded into other parts of the country with other tourism related offerings. Nancy will describe her vision for marketing the North Shore as a destination and provide insight as to what we need to do and what steps we need to market ourselves starting now in preparation for 2010 and beyond. Call 926 6614 to reserve.

~ 8:30am ~ Sports/Rec Fac Planning at 8:30am discusses the new Cmnty Centre, parking, court use at Gleneagles (can you spell b-a-d-m-i-n-t-o-n?), and the netting at Amb Park (how to avoid 70ft poles and still address liability from flying balls, not to mention avoiding trajectory of nearby residents recovering from the 80ft lights)

~  5pm ~ 2010 Olympic Cmte meets at Park Royal South Cmnty Mtg Room re draft report to Ccl

~ 5pm ~  PAC at Srs' Centre debates Ambleside Town Centre Strategy and the Environment Strategy

~ 5:30pm ~ FAC at Hall: Cmnty Benefit Group; water conservation; Hollyburn Lease; Workplan; and more!

~  7pm ~ Bd of Variance looks at: 1355 Inglewood, 3374 Craigend, 4374 Erwin Dr, 5205 Gulf Place, 1963 - 28th St, 5225 Gulf Place, 6627 Madrona Crescent

= THURSDAY, 17th =  Happy St Patrick's Day!

~ 6pm ~ Family Court & Youth Justice Cmte (CNV M Hall)

~ 7pm ~ Author Visit at the Library: Sandra Harper, author of "[Travelling] the Sun: A Healing Journey to Morocco, Tunisia, and Spain"

~ 7:30 ~ WV Streamkeepers - Public Mtg at St Stephen's (885 - 22nd)

Speaker: Brian Smith of the Seymour Hatchery

= FRIDAY, 18th =

~ 7:30 ~  La Candela, Cuban band, with reception at the Library; call 925 7402

= SATURDAY, 19th =

~ 2pm ~ Artist's Talk at FBG (Exhibit "Wild Abandon" to Mar 27)

= WEDNESDAY, 23rd =

~ 5 - 7pm ~  Business After Business, an informal social event; no charge  but pls ph 926 6614 to register to facilitate planning.  Sponsors this month include Adriatic Deli and Coffee, A-Pro Caregivers and Nannies, Norcu Insurance, Rowena Cameron BFA/artist, and Lyndon Davies, musical entertainment. If you would like to participate we still have room for several more sponsors. Call the Chamber re arrangements and payment

~ 7pm ~ WV Historical Society Mtg: Speaker Andrew Pottinger, Spokesman for BPP, on the story of British Pacific Properties, originally Capilano Estates, and the latest project, South Marr Creek

= THURSDAY, 24th =

~ 4pm ~ POLICE BD MEETING POSTPONED TO 29th

~ 4:30 ~ DAC in Ccl Chamber

*****  M HALL CLOSED GOOD FRIDAY THROUGH EASTER MONDAY  *****

= SATURDAY, 26th =

Two sessions (2pm and 3:30pm): Talk on Old Growth Trees in WV by Robert Laird at Museum (925 7295 for info)

                                transcript typed during mtg on a best efforts basis

and

The Director of Planning, Lands and Permits will describe the subject application:

Applicant:  Royal Developers Ltd.

Subject Lands:  1891 Marine Drive

Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment:  To rezone the property from R.M.2 Multiple Dwelling Zone 2 to R.M.L. 19 Multiple Dwelling Zone (Low Density)

Proposed Development Permit:  To regulate and impose conditions respecting the form and character of the development.

The Municipal Clerk will note written submissions received for the March 14, 2005 Public Hearing/Public Meeting, with respect to the proposed bylaw amendment and development permit application.

The applicant will be provided an opportunity to make a presentation on the subject application.

Closure of Public Hearing and Public Meeting

If there is no further public input,

RECOMMENDED:

THAT all written and verbal submissions regarding Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968 Amendment Bylaw No. 4413, 2005 and Development Permit Application No. 04? 024 (re 1891 Marine Drive) up to and including March 14, 2005 be received and that the Public Hearing and Public Meeting be closed.

OR

If Council wishes a further staff report, then adjourned to ________________.

Members of Council are not permitted to receive further submissions once the Public Hearing is closed.

Mark Sager was representing owners, gave some background, and handed over to the architect, Karl Gustavson, for the presentation.

KG: had public info mtg in Dec

imp; statement as entrance to Ambleside

struggled with eliminating commercial here; mixed use; in the end chose all residential

proximity to Library, rec centre; fairly small units

thought added to cmnty benefit package, two handicapped units on ground floor but not restricted to handicapped; 20% of project as stock in comnty if ev did a great thing

all ground units are connected by outdoor walkways, can walk along

occupy and have an inhome office; good transitional use

Looking at pedestrian traffic light -- wrestled with it and also with watermain, maybe loop; work with staff, Engg, Ccl, want to do something.

some work on west of 19th, landscaping on edge of Memorial Park, new entrance to Park, realignment of curb.

Other small improvements being considered.

No loss of parking on western edge.

better sightlines

existing stone retaining wall

Talking to nbr about wall encroachment adjacent, cutting wall back, it's out 3ft into sidewalk

so match sidewalk width, broader sidewalk, better view

Sop: interested in road system and sidewalks, commend you on work you're doing there but want to ask Mr Barth about traffic calming in Ambleside since gateway already accomplished east to west

this corner, I had a biz there in the 60s and traffic count at the corner the highest in the province

intersection veers to right and puts cars out of sight

wonder if we cd start traffic calming there, north, balloon out, and done now by devpr

EB: certainly something we can look at

currently having a survey of Marine Drive corridor and they can include that

Sop: see opp for public good significant at that corner

KG: have drawn the bulge to show we intend to do something but up to Traffic Study, up to staff's/Ccl's wish

Sop: seems to be a lot of probs in lane -- approp space for trucks not interfere?

KG: yes; large enclosure for services plus garbage container, no gates, can pull it out and put back in

8ft depth, 20 ft long; not enclosed for ease of access

G-J: re staff report Jan 31st, says traffic light needed for 19th and Marine

what's timeframe for overall study, will have answer to dovetail with this?

EB: Mgr of Roads and Transportation reviewing so can respond in timely fashion

VD: where is the guest parking?

SJN: I'd ask architect to respond

on street, no guest parking required for residential

do negotiate for each

VD: cdn't see

KG: have 13 stalls and some handicapped

we have one more than we need and more than meeting requires

SJN: taken into consideration devt on one side of the street

VD: you say current zoning but our RM11 19 zone created for this project so when you say zoning requires parking 13, out of blue?

VD: interested you said required

but we are talking about an area [requiring] parking

KG: consistent with similar projects; access and bus routes excellent

VD: when was that set?

SJN: 1958

[laughter]

VD: wonder if Ambleside had same sort of traffic problems it has now -- traffic [different now]

JF: adv cmtes talked about sustainability; what options?

KG: one was material for bldg and chose stone

embodied energy of this

good part of our building; makes big difference [gigajools?]

project in HBay looking at

wd like to do bamboo flooring, don't have say, depends on enduser

doing our best

JF: not building to LEEDS standard

KG: no, not a LEED bldg

JC: re cmnty benefit, spoke of traffic light, watermain, etc. was there a dollar value he cd attach to that?

KG:  we've submitted three cost estimates before traffic, lighting, and bulging

looping option $78K; bulge

committed to some other improvements

JC: is there an aggregate total for the projects?  Got $78K so far

KG: between $90 and 100K

JC: and what's value of project?

KG: cdn't tell you that

JC: roughly

KG: 11K sf at $250sf

Sop: activity at 18th and Marine; N/S active corner

have you or will you be looking at traffic pattern?

trucks and residential -- imperative we look at nbrhds behind and that the lane doesn't become a thoroughfare; dispersal vital, that corner is vital to traffic pattern change

all activity flows in the area

EB: whenever we look at the impact of traffic we don't look at it in isolation; what's around

wd look at more than just the intersection

the study is an ICBC-sponsored study; my staff wd be taking a broader look at this

Kamran Victory:  operate a biz at 1867 Marine

first of all we welcome the devt next to our place of biz, looking forward to seeing that area cleaned up

a few concerns: foremost -- the current parking space is wholly inadequate for the amount of activity that exists in that block -- and I'm speaking as an indiv who has worked there for two years, very difficult to find car park areas, even had difficulty staffing our company b/c of that -- some have to park on 20th and walk to the 1800 block.  Concerned this will allow density, added density to what is allowable at the moment, and there's no guest parking

Concerned construction of new curb on west side of 19th will affect parking

I personally suffered an accident when I first moved into this bldg, ankle

mostly senior citizens in that area, I'm still in early middle age and still had to suffer that accident

hope there'll be consideration given to adequate parking and some sort of sidewalk coverage so that people can use that area safely.

we've had problems with rainwater drainage; hope devpr will work with us; had a lot of leakage problems

happy to provide further information if staff needs

noise, traffic, vibration

all residents in our bldg are seniors and spend all day at home

garbage shd be enclosed, absolutely necessary; sit on council of bldg we occupy; we've had people come and look through for recyclables

finally, the roof structure looks like a temporary roof; hope it cd be revisited to be more in keeping with nbrhd

CR: Carolanne Reynolds, Editor, West Van Matters, www.westvan.org

[KG's comments inaudible]

CR:  Oh, I see, b/c at the public info mtg I went to they were going to have live/work units and I think that's a really great idea for Ambleside so perhaps more explanation of the home office wch must be a similar arrangement, I suppose, wd be a good idea

As you know, the cmnty benefits policy has not yet been received by Ccl and again I thank Cclr Clark for sort of asking the questions --

Mayor: Mr Nicholls, wd you like to answer that?

SJN: we will be reporting on the cmnty benefit; I believe the uplift differs amongst different Ms as I reported before; will be reporting on that

Most Ms do not calculate uplift, however they do, and most Ms also look for cmnty benefit when projects occur and we've attempted to do that.

I expect the value of the land has been realized in terms of the price it took to purchase the land so what we're looking for here is what makes a good devt and what types of benefits can be achieved  in the directly surrounding area

CR: Yes, thank you.  It helps to know b/c you don't want to ask too much but you also don't want to give it away.  That's one of the elements in coming to--

We'd be interested and are looking forward to that.

Jim McCallum (sp?): My concern is the rooftop

privacy is my concern

Mayor: have you a comment on that?

KG: we had an opp to speak to this gentleman

since then we've had the landscaper look at this wrt view to back

we've oriented toward the back

yes rooftop deck but [facing]

RD moved; Sop seconded: PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED

7:45

3.         ADOPTION OF MINUTES / 3.1  Council Meeting Minutes, February 28, 2005

4.         PRESENTATION

4.1       Presentation by West Vancouver School District Staff and School Board Representatives regarding West Vancouver Substance Abuse Prevention Initiative - Current Progress

RECOMMENDED: ...  be received.

Cathy Mah (sp?), working through school district

trustee Paola Merkins

Cathy Mah: did needs analysis; parent/youth focus groups

alcohol and marijuana usage was by far most prevalent

tobacco use is declining

not much cocaine, ecstasy, crystal meth, mushrooms

Program Framework: wanted consistency

Schools -- curriculum, environment, action teams, early intervention

in place already: curriculum -- looking at Grades 4 to 9 DARE Grades 5 and 7; new Grade 8 curriculum ensuring evaluation; animation videos; drugs and sports....

created some youth leadership teams in schools

all schools were involved in Drug Awareness Week activities

intervention/referral strategies

youth workers, prevention workers

Family Programs -- easy access to information, skill-building

we've been setting up information booths, setting up website, positive parenting presentation (April) targeting Grades 4 to 7

Parents of Grades 7 to 12

community collaboration important; Youth Action

Future Plans: continue curriculum devt; training and support for Youth Teams; build on family programs; early intervention; continue support for cmnty initiatives

Evaluation: Sch Dist Safe School Survey; other prov and nat'l surveys; student and teacher written evaluation; focus groups and interviews; general tracking of statistics and conversations

Successful Programs: need longterm commitment and support, comprehensive, consistent, continuous, sustainable, evaluation

Mayor:  suggests in report one of the reason for drugs is peer pressure

how do you reverse that? how do you get leaders in school to work in a positive way not to use?

has that been successful and to you employ that technique?

Ans: what we want to do with the action teams; more youth taking leadership and speaking out

when correct information allows better decision-making

a lot of misinformation

society too, must have impact so shift

Mayor: do you find leaders?

Ans: some success but have to build on that

JC: you mentioned early intervention -- how?

Ans: a number of ways

a student can be identified from a teacher, student, self-referral, counsellor, administration....

sometimes secondary, ie behaviour and find drugs involved

we have prevention workers in the school

make an appropriate referral to an outside agency

JC: at that point you need parental permission?

Ans: depends

Mr Warren Hicks: part of our strategy is to get parents involved as soon as we can

want to provide an opp for students to come forward, themselves or friends

someone is assigned to check on students

get parents involved; easier in junior grades

JC: what wd happen if parent took attitude, "not my kid"?

Mr Hix: try to speak to individual [who sometimes denies also] but usually we find they say "we're really scared, can you help us?"

need tagteam approach

try to work with the family and come up with strategies to get student down right track

not a blind eye

sometimes problem to get them engaged but when mtg at school they usually attend

Sop: on Council for nine years, have seen the DARE program, they're older now

progress?

seems to be a lot of coddling; when does tough love come in?

a lot of activity out there that makes it very easy

parents have to have the straight goods and we've got to deal with it tough love

if the DARE program is successful that shd show up at 12, 13 years old

is that true? is that happening?

Ans: one of the problems is that if you take DARE alone

you need to carry through [older]

just taking DARE is difficult

skills along the way and we plan to evaluate

wd guess DARE, no, unless carry through

a lot of difficulty too with parents understanding difference using as child and adult

WH: tough love means something different to everyone around table

you make a good point not coddling; our position is very firm

if a student was not to change to a healthier lifestyle, we'd look at whether shd continue in school and most want to stay in school; tell us what they're going to do and if they don't we bring them back in; try to find out why; we operate as very caring but also very tough; important they understand

we're no nonsense doing business

Sop: at what point in time consideration in school term, with familly doctor? family themselves?  associated with mental health? addicted cd have been sorted out earlier if [resolved] as mental health structure at that time? can't find a psychiatrist that will deal with an addict

how many have a dependency problem from mental [problem]?

Ans: certainly mental illness is a factor, esp depression

Coastal Health Authority looking at drugs and mental health

Sop: the education of the two being related, not stepping on toes

gotta get to this issue; it's a problem and it's a big one

WH: Coastal Health for the first time has restructured; dual diagnosis; big focus, healthy step forward

whether there or not, the ability to have a coordinated approach to what we're doing will make it or break it

school can't do it on it's own; or family; must all be together

family, schools, Ccl, Police Force .......

very fortunate, all steps in right direction

this is quite recent and Cclr Sop is quite correct, many times drug use got mixed up with psychiatric disorder and many times not recognized for a long time

Trustee Merkins: Bd has been working very hard

various agencies of Health not speaking to each other we discovered

so over last couple of years developing partnerships

try to follow through and not let ball drop

JF: wd like to commend Sch Dist of taking on this task

is this model based on another one elsewhere that has been evaluated, or is this a one-off?

Ans: a lot of 'best practices' out there

some have had ten-year evaluations

longterm programs you have to look at; won't see changes in one, two, three years

a lot of research from States so looking elsewhere

not making it up

JF: but wondered if you had statistics from elsewhere
Ans: Project Northland in US has project cmnty

they did make a decrease in first use

three-year program, drop off, so made sure senior grades had program and went up

also another program that delayed.....

JF: certainly substance abuse is in epic proportions, not just WV but worldwide

one small step

look forward to positive outcome over next few years

WH: decrease in smoking rates

very coordinated effort to point kids tell us it's 'uncool' to smoke

very much been a coordinated campaign

we're encouraged that we're going to make a difference here

hope we can come back with statistics for you

G-J: thank you for your leadership; tremendous contribution; Sch Dist fast out of gate [dealing with this]

what are you going to do with this report? tell people?

what's at root of challenges?

ideas such as marijuana is not harmful? belief parents don't have to supervise parties? encourage kids to drink underage

the fact parents condone substance abuse

our broad social norms accept alcohol and drug use in underage

mixed messages

parental pessimism increases risk, pro-social rules decrease

these are challenges

parents are really 'kinda' stuck

get message out there; we must support each other as parents

Nancy Reagan's "just say no" is dumb

ev knows moderate use takes place; maybe that's the message parents can give

want to know how we can help you

Ans: took info in series, type of msgs we need to get out

parent network will discuss a lot of this stuff in this material; keep giving it out;  parents looking forward to that

putting report on website and you're probably right not going to enough people

G-J: have applied for some joint funding from fed govt for communication plan; but M  funding half, perhaps M cd support

great strength you have is access to parents who are paying attention; they have a vested interest

Trustee Merkins: one of the things we're trying to do with parents is that parents need each other

what happens at your house, this happens at ours

moving from elementary to high school, connection breaks; don't know parents

all our efforts are directed to anyone who wants to come: parent, grandparent, guardian, private school, promoting our events to cmnty at large

thrilled to hear Cclr G-Jones's suggestion

sure cd be a way to partner to a bigger audience

Ans: one of the things that came out is easy access to alcohol

that's one of the things Ccl cd assist in granting licences, retail stores, etc

huge risk factor

started with tobacco, decreasing access

decreasing access for alcohol

RD: your report says in this District 71% of students tried alcohol and 47% mari  63 and 43

pretty shocking

Grade 12 beer

this sort of thing misleads people

at SFU students kept getting better and better

must remember the great number of kids out there are great

parenting

sense of family, cmnty, religious values -- will get less abuse

WV is frequently referred to me as not friendly to youth and that astonishes me; this is a cmnty where you can sail and ski in same day, Aquatic Centre -- can get bored in Moose Jaw but you're only 15 minutes from Vancouver -- can even go to Bby

Ans: perception came from youth

RD: where'd it come from

Ans: certainly that's the perception of youth

promote what's here, maybe that's part of the strategy

WH: RAT cmte

some encouragement to get kids involved

opp to take part is there

if we can build the superstructure and suprastructure, it's likely they'll get involved

youth will say they're bored

it happens with youth; measure what they're doing; analyze that; evaluate based on that rather than isolated reports.

JC: all heard Saturday night about the meteorite seen all over the Lower Mainland but I don't know if we're all aware of the rising star yesterday afternoon and will be seen as far away as Ottawa in April

and perhaps even in Washington DC in May -- Tracy Hinder of W V Secondary, Grade Eight student who won the regional Spelling Bee

another feather in your caps

WH: her mother is our employee, exec asst at our Facilities branch

congratulations to her as well

JC: just great, she was terrific on TV

8:33

5.         REPORTS

RECOMMENDED: ...be received for information.

KP: another youth cmte!

initiative that came out of the Youth Strategy

will run during Police Week (tried for Youth Week), in Amb Park

three days; revenues and all costs will be rolled into program

info report to say this is proceeding, anxious to see how it fits in and with Police sure run smoothly

G-J: wrt the charge that we're not youth-friendly

interesting to look at the subtle message in report, says event will further enhance relations with Police.  That may be a byproduct but for me, we're doing this cuz we're responding to the demand by young people in WV for fun things to do

good for youth, good for police

JF: not just youth and police? will there be rides for all ages? ...

[laughter, jocular comments]

 3, 13-yr-old?

KP:  yes, or your 57-year-old!

8:36

RECOMMENDED:

THAT the request to the District of West Vancouver by the J. P. Fell Pipe Band to be appointed as the official North Shore Pipe Band be denied.

KP: request made to the three NSh Ms

DWV already has an official band and it's the WV Youth Band

in 1996 we set up criteria although not a policy such as longevity, number of mbrs; at that time approved it

we're not recommending b/c might cause some confusion

and we can see a number of requests leading up to Olympics

however CNV has approved this, the DNV has sent this to their Arts Commission so we haven't seen that decision yet

Sop: WV Youth Band, support, but is not NSh

KP: no

Sop: so giving them the North Shore designation doesn't mean it's a WV band

what right do we have excluded on NSh

KP: if you approve this, you'd have to make it an official band of WV, no authority to approve for NSh unless other two do

cd make motion contingent

Sop: did WV Youth Band go to other NSh?

KP: no

Sop: so it's the only one for WV

this band is set apart, so this will be North Shore

fail to see why deny it

Mayor: anyone want to make the motion?

VD: .......request be denied

RD:  I agree with Cclr Sop; it's different from a Youth Band

bagipes; this is not a big issue

don't see why we shd deny it, let's give every group as much support as we can

if all three NSh Ms want to call it --

we'll endorse them

maybe we shd  hear 'em play first, might drive us crazy!

bagpipes are fun and it's a hard instrument to play

MMgr: you might get your wish

RD: we shd endorse it

JF: am I mistaken

is there not a North Shore Olympic Cmte?

Mayor: mayors and staff one

JF: seems to me and why I support deny, that's the cmte that shd be putting together the criteria for representing us

for Olympics, some representative on NSh

retain right for any WV group as wd CNV and DNV for their respective groups

if across the board, shd go through a tri-M cmte and come back

VD: I made the motion b/c it doesn't say why it's called JP Pipe band, or who JP Fell is

not that many people from WV on it or even from NSh

think purpose NSh, shd meet certain criteria; shd be put together and approved by all three NSh Ms

Cclr Ferguson suggested one way

not sure it shd be connected to Olympics but think there shd be an agreed on process and criteria

in theory we cd be inundated by ev sort of band; cd create bands, good, bad, and indifferent -- all requesting to be the NSh band of something, NSh electric band -- a whole series

I quite like pipe bands

not against but wd like all three NSh and then JP Fell can reapply, and then happy to support; not at this present moment

JC: presume band goes back years

VD: ten

JC: think further than that, maybe as a society

Mayor:  Mr Cameron will be able to clarify this

JC: that wd be great

there's no clamour to form pipe bands in WV

this is in fact ipso facto the pipe band of the North Shore and see nothing wrong with recognizing that

representation at various functions

City of NV has granted this request

if another group came forward and wanted to form an official WV pipe band then I suppose we cd label them that, an offshoot of the Youth Band or whatever

fully in support of granting

G-J: think it's the Fell Armouries in NV

part of our history; arts and culture strategy, fostering

think it's something we shd look at

some things missing in report, eg wd like to know if Youth Band views this as some sort of threat or challenge -- they may say wonderful

appreciate contribution made at Legions, Remembrance Day, etc.

need another kick at the can, fill in blanks but some questions

Milton Cameron (in full kilt): live on Dufferin in Horseshoe Bay; resident of WV for 30 years

delighted to speak to you about our band

current president of Pipe Band Society and also pipe band sergeant wch is second in command to the pipe major; when he's unable to fulfill his duties, he relies on me

Pipe Band was started at the John Pemberton Fell Armouries, bottom of 15th and Forbes in NV approx ten and a half years ago; a couple of members of the reserve 6th Field Engineers' squadron

there was a Pipe Band following WW2 at the JP Fell Armoury and demise in 50s, however this band is thriving, the only NSh pipe band

enter into WV probably twice a year, parade for years and visit local Legion on Remembrance Day

bring our band, play a few tunes, drink some beer,...

I feel our presence in WV, we cd be represented more often here

all sorts of heritage environments, occasions pipe band cd be appreciated and enjoyed

do a lot of cmnty work, volunteers

young girl 12 marched with us yesterday St Patrick's; oldest 82

most live on NSh but a few sneak across bridge or from N Bby or downtown

six are residents of WV, and we'd be delighted to represent WV

at recent Robby Burns's dinner Mayor Sharp pronounced us, gave us recognition from NV as official pipe band of NV

Arts Ccl in District still deliberating

Mayor: any reason you want the designation?

MC: other than potentially participating in more events; opening some particular event

we are primarily a street band, we don't compete

play at Cmnty Day events

potentially other situations WV cd use the band

MOTION FAILED (with only JF and VD voting to deny)

8:50

RECOMMENDED:... be received.

DoAS: for referendum to pass, 60% vote in 50% of the 79 ridings

attached summary of report, described as BCSTV

Assembly feels system customised for BC, wd be fair, easy to use, and give more power to the voters

what is it and how does it work

vote for more than one candidate; readjustment of some of the boundaries; vote in order of preference; formula for quota to elect a mbr

number of seats plus one -- eg, NSh four to be elected so five and 85,000 votes cast in last election so need 17K+ to be elected; some elected in first count, others get votes transferred whether on bottom or if over number of votes required for election

votes over 17K transferred

few votes wasted; proportional system

We cd have more members if Sunshine Coast included (five then instead of four)

cd see more minority and also coalition govts requiring more consensus, somewhat like M govt

financial implications not set out

wd not be recommending more MLAs

wd require electronic voting; cd be advantageous for M, we cd rent from prov govt; see some potential savings

to assist with any questions Ccl has wrt details, we've arranged to have Mr Gene Quan to come on a televised evening April 18 to explain how the quota is calculated and the transferring of the votes

arranged link on the M website to prov website

new BCSTV is a radical shift and is being watched very closely by the rest of Canada as many prov are looking to modify their democratic process

if Ccl has any questions wd encourage you to wait until Mr Quan comes, he is very knowledgeable; brings passion in explaining how Assembly came to this recommendation

MMgr: on agenda b/c Ccl asked about potential impact on WV

You might want to wait for Mr Quan

Sop: receiving this and conclusion of the Assembly supporting this new method

how is it going to be accepted by the electorate in general?

RB: for new system to be adopted will require 60% throughout prov and 50% of ridings on May 17

Sop: not unfamiliar method b/c was system used in selecting candidates for Liberals in Capilano riding

all hoping our name on top, however mine wasn't and my secondary votes went to help someone else and my name dropped off right from the get-go

Mayor: so you're not in favour--

Sop: and I never heard my name again

JC: you don't like this idea then

Mayor: your support's a little questionable

Sop: will look forward to Mr Quan

maybe he can show me the light

G-J: request to Mr Quan, cd he bring sample ballots and how the votes transfer

JF: jugs of jelly beans

RB: will pass it on

VD: I'm used to reading complicated things but I have to say I've read this and raises more questions than answers

and why considering changing

just the glowing ev will be so much better, nicer

in a perfect world, probably right

but once one gets into this business, not quite in a perfect world

found the report v difficult to read except for endless statement that things will be so much better

RD: Marijuana Party got 3% of vote so they wd have 3% of the vote and MLAs, I don't think the Sch Bd wd like that

that's the problem

In Israel and Italy, and in France before DeGaulle, coalition govts of several parties, and the weakest party cd often hold the govt to ransom; often six or seven seats gave the govt a majority

there are some problems with this system have to be looked at

real problem is gerrymandering

Sop: must be spring, there's a distinct skunk smell

RD: nothing to do with Ccl

JF or VD: or members of public

9:03

6.         REPORTS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCILLORS

JF: attended Norooz Bazaar in NV

tomorrow night Persian New Year at Ambleside

all be there leaping over the bonfires

Townhall mtg held by Citizens for GG at Srs' Centre

we were called on to answer in order before questions were known

moderator was former Cclr Haycock was there

kept us amused with his cynical wit

people v appreciative

G-J: Seymore Filtration Project, all contracts have been awarded

well within budget and expected by

last week grand opening of the silver bldg (sp?), first LEEDS standard in North America and we were left off list of invited

arranged for tour this week

mtg with staff about upcoming Youth Ccl

thank each of you for mentoring

they are thrilled

Mayor: last Friday morning Mr Nicholls and I addressed about 175 of the N Sh realtors of the Real Estate Bd breakfast at Capilano Golf Course

I spoke on about Olympic effort and initiative undertaken and Mr N on Ambleside Revitalization Plans.

9:06

7.         OTHER ITEMS

7.1       Correspondence [full list in previous issue]

7.1.1         Committee and Board Meeting Minutes

...

7.1.13       J. M. Turner, February 27, 2005, regarding construction of building opposite 2135 Argyle

...

7.1.15       T. Thompson, March 02, 2005, regarding Proposed High Rise - 2100 Block Argyle

...

                  Referred to Municipal Manager for consideration and response.

...

JC: coincidentally JF mentioned CGG mtg

at end of mtg approached by three ladies about project on Argyle mentioned in 7.1.13 and 15

and wonder if Mr Nicholls cd explain what the situation there is

SJN: as mentioned earlier in the evening, the lands in the Amb apt zone have been zoned since 1958

over last 50 years with bulk of devt in 1960s and 70s, tailing off in 1980s

to the extent over the 50 years there was actually a couple of sites occupied the original apt bldgs such as Surf foot of 22nd St or 23rd St that have been redevpd on their own

there are one or two sites remaining; actually this is the last remaining site with a single family house on it that qualifies

that house was in private ownership up until this point and the owners have decided to sell and that  combined with a duplex adjacent, immediately to east, qualifies for in terms of size for an apt bldg under the current zoning; so that zoning has been in place for 50 years

only requirement is to submit an application for a Devt Permit, Ccl can control design, what it looks like

a few regulations apply, sq footage, height

sun angle calculations as well, to protect sunlight to north

wd limit height to 10 to 12 storeys

site just over minimum, 12K

it's under agreement to purchase

expect to receive an application for an apt devt in next few weeks

will come to Ccl as a report

Ccl's policy to hold a public mtg

RD: what are the sideyards?

SJN: 25ft on each side

site 100ft wide and zoning says sideyard same on both sides; so bldg approx 50 ft

there's a high rise to the east of the site

a four-unit bldg to west rezoned back in 1980s so remain

then a high rise to the west of that

8.  NO PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS

9:11

3.         ADOPTION OF MINUTES

3.1   Council Meeting Minutes, March 07, 2005

3.2       Public Hearing/Public Meeting Minutes, March 14, 2005

            (to be provided in Supplemental Agenda)

4.         DELEGATIONS

4.1       B. Waterbury, Chair, Planning Committee, North Shore Super Cities Walk/Run for Multiple Sclerosis, regarding North Shore Super Cities Walk/Run for MS

5.         REPORTS

5.1       5 Year Financial Plan Bylaw No. 4415, 2005 (File:  0860-01/1610?20?4415)

RECOMMENDED:                                               

THAT "5 Year [sic] Financial Plan Bylaw No. 4415, 2005" be introduced and read a first, second and third time.

5.2       Youth Competition & Recognition Fund - Application for West Vancouver Field Hockey, Girls Cheetahs U16 (File:  0920-03)

5.3       Lighthouse Park Implementation Strategy

RECOMMENDED:    THAT

1.         The draft Implementation Strategy action items for Lighthouse Park be approved.

2.         A process be initiated with Fisheries and Oceans Canada to examine ways to protect aquatic life and habitat at a suitable distance off the shoreline of Lighthouse Park.

3.         Staff be directed to bring budget requests forward for 2006 and beyond during regular budget submission periods.

4.         Staff be directed to work with interested members of the community to secure grants that may be available for ongoing programming or capital works in Lighthouse Park.

5.4       Request from Antonio Bay Productions for Noise Bylaw Exemption During Proposed Filming in West Vancouver

RECOMMENDED:                                               

 THAT an exemption from sections 4(e) (i) and 6(n) of the District's Noise Control Bylaw No. 3908, 1994 be approved for Antonio Bay Productions for filming at Sunset Marina on Saturday, April 2nd and Sunday April 3rd, 2005 from dusk to dawn, and exemption to film in Whytecliff Park after 11:00 p.m. Wednesday April 6, 2005 until 1:00 a.m. on Thursday April 7, 2005.

5.5       Profile of Disability in West Vancouver (File:  2515?02?01)

RECOMMENDED:                                               

 THAT the Council Information Report dated March 10, 2005 from the Planning Analyst titled, Profile of Disability in West Vancouver be received.

6.         BYLAWS

6.1       Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968 Amendment Bylaw No. 4413, 2005 (1891 Marine Drive)

RECOMMENDED:   ....  be read a second and third time.

7.         REPORTS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCILLORS

8.         OTHER ITEMS

8.1       Correspondence

No Action Required (receipt only)

8.1.1         Committee and Board Meeting Minutes

(a)             Lower Caulfeild Advisory Committee, August 03, 2005

(b)             North Shore Family Court and Youth Justice Committee, January 20, 2005

(c)              Sports and Recreation Facilities Planning Select Committee of Council, March 02

8.1.2         K. Higgs, March 03, 2005, regarding Mariah Energy Corp.

8.1.3         C. Sheppard, March 03, 2005, regarding South Marr Creek development

8.1.4         L. & B. Pearce, March 07, 2005, regarding Evelyn Drive Millennium Properties Project

8.1.5         K. Porter, March 07, 2005, regarding Chelsea Subdivision

8.1.6         M. Sherman; A. Nicholson-Chow; M. Moore; K. Patricia Wren; S. Nicholson; K. Patterson, March 07, 2005, regarding Clovelly Walk Heritage and Legacy and accompanying six (6) page, approximate sixty-eight (68) signature petition

                 Attachments available for viewing in the Clerk's Department.

8.1.7         J. Brampton, March 04, 2005, regarding badminton at new Recreation Centre

8.1.8         Fifteen (15) signatures, March 02, 2005, regarding Petition for Badminton Facilities at New Recreation Centre

8.1.9         L. and A. Cooper, March 06, 2005, regarding Business Licence Bylaw Amendment to Include Noise and Odours

8.1.10       S. E. Dowey, City Clerk, City of North Vancouver, March 03, 2005, regarding the Province's Proposal to Widen Highway No. 1 and to Twin the Port Mann Bridge

                  Attachments available for viewing in the Clerk's Department.

8.1.11       Mayor R. Drew, Chair, Lower Mainland Treaty Advisory Committee (LMTAC), March 07, 2005, regarding LMTAC Background Briefing Note - Servicing Interests

8.1.12       K. Higgs, March 08, 2005, regarding Biomass Biopower Green Renewable Portable Modular Hog Fuel Power Plant

8.1.13       S. E. Dowey, City Clerk, March 03, 2005, regarding North Shore Transportation Advisory Committee - Draft Terms of Reference

                  Attachments available for viewing in the Clerk's Department.

8.1.14       T. Armstrong, Chair, Union of British Columbia Municipalities (UBCM) First Nations Relations Committee and Mayor R. Drew, Chair, Lower Mainland Treaty Advisory Committee, March 04, 2005, regarding Building Relations with First Nations:  A Handbook for Local Governments

                  Attachments available for viewing in the Clerk's Department.

8.1.15       K. Shymanski, President and CEO, E-Comm 9-1-1, March 04, 2005, regarding February 28, 2005 overview of E-Comm Services

8.1.16       J. Knight, Chief Executive Officer, Federation of Canadian Municipalities, March 07, 2005, regarding membership with Federation of Canadian Municipalities

8.1.17       J. Wong, March 10, 2005, regarding British Pacific Properties South Marr Creek Development

8.1.18       J. Kellett, Board Chair, West Vancouver School District #45, March 08, 2005, regarding Evelyn Drive Project

Action Required

8.1.19       Councillor D. Rogers, Chair, Union of British Columbia Municipalities (UBCM) Community Economic Development Committee, March 04, 2005, regarding Survey on Local Government Participation in Economic Development

                  Referred to Director of Administrative Services for consideration and response.

8.1.20       E. Fraser, Executive Coordinator, Lower Mainland Municipal Association, March 01, 2005, regarding Vancouver International Airport Resolutions

                  Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.

8.1.21       J. Marvin Hunt, Chair, Greater Vancouver Regional District Board of Directors, March 07, 2005, regarding Establishment of Mosquito Control Administration and Coordination Service

Referred to Mayor Wood for consideration and response.

8.1.22       A. R. Ryckman, March 10, 2005, regarding delegation to council re serious traffic problem Referred to the Municipal Clerk for response confirming scheduling of the delegation for the April 04, 2005 meeting.

8.1.23       L. E. Jackson, Mayor, The Corporation of Delta, March 01, 2005, regarding Municipal Fitness Challenge - Grade 5 Free Access

                  Referred to Mayor Wood for consideration and response.

8.1.24       K. Pople and D. Stephenson, Taylor Way and Sentinel Hill Alliance (TWASHA) and Preserve West Vancouver, March 11, 2005, regarding Evelyn Drive - "Special Study Area for Possible Multifamily Housing" (File:  1010?20?04?004)

                  Referred to Director of Planning, Lands & Permits for consideration and response.

9.         PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS

 

Here's the info from the website (but of course without the drawing you can see on the website):

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And apparently the badminton groups were also misled.}

Liberty can not be preserved without general knowledge among people.

                                        -- John Adams (August 1765)

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