Honour our veterans and commemorate Remembrance Day.

=  MAIN ITEMS November 6th Council Agenda: Presentation (Royal Canadian Legion); 4769 The Highway; 6835 Copper Cove; WV Blvd Maintenance and Encroachment Policy; 1151 Palmerston; OCP/Zoning Bylaw Amendments re Evelyn Drive Area, to be provided on-table; Hollyburn Ridge Cabin Transfer; Mid-Year Review 2006; West Vancouver Police Radio System ($5m? in camera?); Correspondence: Cmnty Tourism Funding

=  UPDATES (WVStreamkeepers, Lighthouse Park Preservation Society); WV WATER (Quality and Supply; DWV Press Release; Water in the City Conference); Calendar to Nov 22nd; INFObit (Xmas, ouch!); Oct 30 Ccl Mtg NOTES (Cabin fees, Cmnty Ctr, Collingwood); Ccl AGENDA Nov 6; Statement from WVPD; Quotations

*  WV Police Dept -- stay tuned!  [Just prior to completion of WVM, WVPD statement received, see end]

The Vancouver Natural History Society recently recognized two members of our Society.  Katharine Steig received the Kaye & Charles Ney Award for exemplary service and dedication to VNHS.  Also board member, David Cook, received the Kay Beamish Award for his contribution to nature education.  Even though David is in high demand as an interpretive guide at several locations around the Lower mainland, he has voluntarily led many Sunday afternoon walks in Lighthouse Park.

We are thrilled to announce an art show, "NATURE--LIGHTHOUSE PARK", to be held in January 2007 at West Vancouver Memorial Library.  This show, sponsored by the Lighthouse Park Preservation Society, is to celebrate the tenth anniversary of our beginnings, and is open to all Lighthouse Park Preservation Society members.  We anticipate a wide variety of subjects and media, including photography (along with some art by young people -- perhaps "Spiders, Slugs, and Bugs").  We welcome three-dimensional pieces.  Work will not be for sale.  It should be completed by Dec. 2006 and presented framed and/or matted ready to hang.  Please call Marja at 921-3382.

>  To become a MEMBER of the Society, please contact Sheena Vennesland at 913-9272

>  Members are encouraged to contribute articles and photographs to the newsletter.  Submissions should be made to Elspeth Bradbury at 926-9390

Carolanne,

    Your readers in the central and eastern parts of WV will not be experiencing the chlorine high that visits us here in the west during rain downfalls at this time of year.  With the Eagle Lake reservoir in the process or refilling, the lake is experiencing high levels of turbidity (inorganic and organic suspended matter).  The tap water from this source has to be heavily dosed with chlorine to offset the risk of water-borne bacteria entering the water system, according to the local medical health officer.  So the District water utility jacks up the chlorine levels as a precaution.  This leads to water smelling like diluted aquatic centre pool water discharging from our household taps here in the western part of the municipality.  Ugh!

    With the high chlorine dosage and the organic matter in the tap come chlorination by-products that pose their own health risk.  The US EPA has banned the use of gaseous chlorine in the treatment of US potable water supplies in favour of chloramine treatments which do not pose the risk to humans that chlorine poses.  But the DFO refuses to allow the discharge of chloramines into the environment in Canada because of the risk to fish populations, so here in Canada we humans are placed at risk, albeit an uncertain risk that depends on cumulative exposure over our life-times.

    Here is where the District's filtration plant construction would provide a benefit in the short and long terms.  By reducing the organic loading down stream of the filtration plant, the chlorine dosage is reduced which in turn reduces both the odour (short term problem) and the risk posed by chlorine byproducts which require organic materials in order to be created (long term health hazard).

    Regrettably, the filtration plant is about a year behind schedule and visibility is lacking as to when it will be completed and brought on line.

    Regards

1.       Members of the Conference Steering Committee are working on the development of a best practices document, building on the ideas presented at the conference. When ready, this document will be widely circulated and will be made available on the conference website www.waterinthecityvictoria.ca. A note will be sent to conference delegates when it is ready, likely next spring.

2.       We are curious to learn about your experiences as you try to implement the ideas learned at the conference, and would encourage you to e-mail us at info@waterinthecityvictoria.ca. We hope to compile this information, use it to build the best practices document and use it as a means to encourage the on-going sharing of ideas and information.

3.       Check it out! The Water Sustainability Project from the University of Victoria's POLIS Project on Ecological Governance has announced the release of Thinking Beyond Pipes and Pumps: Top 10 Ways Communities Can Save Water and Money. A preview brochure about Thinking Beyond was included your delegate package at the Water in the City conference. The full report, which addresses many of the issues discussed at Water in the City, is now available on the organization's Web site at www.waterdsm.org. Contact Ellen Reynolds at (250) 472-4487 or ellenr@uvic.ca for more information.

If you have other questions or comments, please contact us at info@waterinthecityvictoria.ca.

Regards,  Vic Derman, Conference Chair 

~ 7 - 8:30pm ~ A Talk with Brent Toderian - The City of Vancouver's new Director of Planning

Venue: SFU Harbour Centre, 515 West Hastings; call 291.5100 or email cs_hc@sfu.ca.

===  Monday Nov 6th --  12:30pm  ***CANCELLED/POSTPONED b/c of weather/rain***

The T. Buck Suzuki Environmental Foundation is going to film West Vancouver Streamkeepers who will be testing creek water by taking invertebrate bug samples from one of West Vancouver's creeks. The sample will be taken from Rodgers Creek at a pristine site above all developments to ensure the bug count reflects the most natural conditions. The objective is not only to capture a scientific sample, but also to enable the Foundation to record this activity on film.

Please come to the filming site on Rodgers Creek at 12:30 on Monday Nov 6th.  We will meet at the West Vancouver Operations Yard at 12:00 noon (Visitor Parking) and then proceed to the sampling site.  The site is at the junction of the Cypress Bowl Road and the Westlake gravel road to the cabin area. This is just beyond the final switchback and is opposite the proposed Old Growth Conservancy Area.

Should you have any questions on this event, or the location, please call Hugh Hamilton (President) at 922-7828, email: hugheah@dowco.com

WV Streamkeeper Society:  streamkeepers@westvan.ca and phone 604 628 1123

~ 4 or 4:30pm ~ check to see if FSTF meeting as usual at M Hall -- every Tuesday!

~ 6 - 8pm ~ Opening Reception FERRY BUILDING GALLERY (see Artists' Talk on Saturday)

Exhibit:  ELEMENTS OF SPIRIT -- Nov 7 - 19; Elizabeth Claridge: raku/clay; Melissa Vejins: acrylic on canvas; Aleksander Visnjic-Atza: acrylic on canvas & acrylic ink on paper

~ 7 - 9pm ~  OPENING RECEPTION: WV Museum/Gertrude Lawson House

EXHIBIT:   Winston Elliott: Capturing the Likeness, Nov 7th - January 27th, 2007

     In a career spanning over sixty years, Winston Elliott produced a legacy of portraits, paintings, and illustrations. Captured in his evocative renderings is the spirit of the subjects he portrayed in the decades between World War II and the present day.  At the age of nineteen, Elliott enlisted as a stoker in the Canadian Navy, drawing portraits of his shipmates in his spare time.  His exceptional talent in portraiture advanced his artistic career and he was provided with his own studio in the Naval Art Section in Ottawa.  Elliott was assigned to paint decorated naval heroes and worked alongside official war artist and mentor Grant Macdonald.

     After the war he studied at the Ontario College of Art, graduating in 1948, and then moved to Alberta where his works were first exhibited.  Elliott has resided in West Vancouver since 1957, where he pursued a successful career as a commercial illustrator and  continued to evolve as a painter.  During his career Elliott designed logos for the Canadian Football League and advertisements for both local and national businesses.  Although his works have been shown in galleries and are represented in collections across Canada, this exhibit is his first retrospective.

Chamber of Commerce Breakfast (7:30am) at Hollyburn Club featuring:

Greater Vancouver is internationally known for its pleasant weather and beautiful scenery.  Unfortunately, it is also known as a region that has an unfavourable climate for crime.  This reputation comes with a cost...an impact on business investment.   What can be done to fight this increasingly serious problem?   Do we have the tools to deal with it?

This month, [the Chamber is] offering members the opportunity to bring a guest along with them at the same member price of $25 including GST. For those [who] do so, we will enter your name in a draw for a chance to win your January breakfast for free. (Please note, there is no December breakfast meeting.)  For details and to book today, please call 926 6614.

>>> Early Music -- Nov 10 -- Visit www.earlymusic.bc.ca or call Early Music Vancouver 732-1610.  Rush seats for students with valid ID on sale for $10, at the door only, from 7pm on the evening of the concert.  Ask about our "Bring a Youth for Free" programme.

===  Saturday Nov 11th -- REMEMBRANCE DAY -- from 10am at Library --

 ~ 7:50 - 11am ~ Khatsahlano Road Race from Horseshoe Bay to Park Royal

~ 5 - 7pm ~ Chamber of Commerce: Mbrs; Showcase at Steamworks; call 926 6614 for info.

~ 7 - 9pm ~ Library Board (3rd Floor) - WV Library) ; and Board of Variance in Ccl Chambers

Pleased to announce that a draft Constitution and Bylaws has been completed for a Society whose purpose will be to help with the protection and management of the Old Growth Conservancy.  As you may recall, West Vancouver Council approved the "Strategy for Protection" for the Conservancy in June 2006, and an important role for this group will be to assist with the implementation of recommendations in the Strategy.

The draft Constitution and Bylaws for the "Old Growth Conservancy Society" -- the proposed name for the Society - was prepared by the working group that stepped forward to undertake this task at the June 27 Conservancy meeting at the West Vancouver Memorial Library.  Four or five volunteers worked over the summer and fall to produce this draft which is available here: http://www.westvancouver.ca/upload/documents/Parks/OGCS_DRAFT_CONSTITUTION_AND_BYLAWS_FOR_NOV_15_2006.pdf

Because of long-standing interest in the Conservancy, you are invited to a meeting to review this draft Constitution, ask questions and help lay out the next steps toward the formalization of the new Society.  Please bring friends, neighbours, and others who you think may be interested.  A broad, multi-interest membership is encouraged.

Call to Order, Introductions, Approval of the Agenda; Adoption of the Minutes of the May 18th 2006 public meeting; Business arising out of the Minutes of the May 18th public meeting; Announcements

New Business: Items and discussions from the floor

~ 10am ~ WV Streamkeeper Society, PO Box 91166, West Vancouver, BC, V7V 3N6

This is the start of the life-cycle of the salmon which we will raise at our hatchery on Nelson Creek.  As in previous years, the staff of the Tenderfoot hatchery (898 3657) in Brackendale, north of Squamish will be gathering brood stock and helping us extract eggs and milt.

~ 2pm ~ Lighthouse Park Preservation Society Talk at WV Library (Peters Room)

Brian Herrin & Karen Roitberg: "Spiders...it's true -- the two fastest-running species in the world live in West Vancouver"

There will be a general membership meeting before each talk.

~ 10am - 3pm ~ WV Craft market at the Srs' Ctr

~ 3:45 - 5:15pm ~ Civic youth Strategy Working Group, YAC; at Srs' Ctr

        Venue: Theatre 2600, SFU Surrey, Central City, 250 - 13450 102nd Avenue, Surrey

~ 7 - 8:30pm ~ UniverCity: The First Seven Years

        Venue: SFU Harbour Centre, 515 West Hastings, Vancouver

= PHILOSOPHER'S CAFE: Wednesday, November 22  ~ 7pm ~ Fuels Rush In

Energy crisis? We've heard that one before. So what's the future of cheap gas in an Age of Terrorism, Peak Oil, Climate Change, Fat Kids and SUVs? Where can and should we be heading with the global energy system? Guest-Marc Jaccard, Professor, School of Resource and Environmental Management, Simon Fraser University.

>>> KAY MEEK CENTRE  -- Visit www.kaymeekcentre.ca or phone 913-3634 for events.

just hate to include this b/c it's too early to think about Christmas but this toy is absolutely incredible.  On TV Nov 2nd and you can look it up at www.toy-testing.org.

FLY PENTOP COMPUTER --  LEAP FROG  Ages 7 - 12 years

===  CCL MTG NOTES Oct 30th  ===   [Cclr Sop absent]

1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Added 8.1 FSTF extension of term; some correspondence

2. ADOPTION OF MINUTES  Adoption of October 16, 2006 Regular Council Minutes.

      To be provided on-table

Mayor: Before delegation, welcome to new Fire Chief Jeff Oates

Were expecting home in Lower Caulfeild tonight but b/c some nbrs not able to attend, not tonight [will be next week].

3.         D. Gottlieb-Tanaka, The Society for the Arts in Dementia Care, regarding request for support in principle to establish a Centre for the Arts in Dementia Care on the North Shore

DG-T: two centres planned; who are we?

ten int'l known academic scholars; exec bd of six mbrs; three associate orgs, looking for more orgs to join us

establish ties worldwide and since started now a branch in Perth, Australia, as well as other parts of Canada

already have support in principle from CNV and DNV; what do we want from you?

a letter of support for the idea; by collaboration on grant applications led by the Society; alerting about possible sites for proposed ctr

just looking for a small place right now to hang hats, have an office

Contact: info@cecd-society.org and www.cecd-society.org

providing dementia care; right to live in dignity; interdisciplinary

early to moderate dementia, don't stay there, not a longcare facility; interact with art/reminiscent therapists

Dr Dalia G-T and Dr Nancy Mackin

WV is known as being one of the most creative

corelation between physical well-being and [artistic???]

JF: many wd not be near

not a long term facility

ppl over 85, one out of four will get dementia, 72 diseases, one is Alzheimer's

can't all be in facilities and many wd like to care for them at home

what are we going to do with them?

2021, over 600,000 with dementia in Canada

I'm a baby boomer, Nancy's not there yet

I want to have a good quality place to go to when still at home

dance therapist

place between practical and academic world

place to do research

place for families

place they can show their artwork

Exhibition of Dementia and Creativity three years ago display of their artwork at FBG and over 3000 came

on Canada Day over 400 in line to get in

suddenly realized this topic back of mind of many ppl

occurred to me many wondering what's going to happen to us and our loved ones

arts are crucial in communication

in my research on Alzheimer's, know even if all memory gone we can still sing; and can come back if encouraged in a creative way

Mayor: met earlier, think it's a natural fit with our new health space at cmnty ctr (art and recreation)

refer to staff

JF made motion, added support in principle and referral to staff

Mayor: early days but seems like an eminently sensible thing to do.

thank you for your time tonight.

7:19  REPORTS

[did not catch man's/owner's name]: wd like Ccl to waive (f) [see motion below]

I've already engaged in a v expensive project and employed an envtal consultant and engage contractors who have more than $10K in insurance shd anything go wrong

this is one home; take ocean heat and bring into my home

Mayor: is security related to retaining walls coming into compliance?

SJN: we'd be enforcing compliance so don't think that

make sure properly installed

CAO: if for some reason not completed, then send staff in to complete

usually a letter of credit

VV moved:

            THAT installation of underwater and inter-tidal geothermal works in the public foreshore adjacent to 5355 Kew Cliff Road be permitted subject to:

(a)       Installation be in accordance with the report dated August 9, 2006 from Coast River Environmental Services Ltd., entitled 5355 Kew Cliff Road, West Vancouver - Restoration Planting Plan;

(b)       Receipt of confirmation by Transport Canada and Fisheries and Oceans Canada that the works and specifications meet their requirements;

(c)        Receipt of a signed letter of intent from the owner indicating a commitment to enter into a foreshore agreement once the foreshore policy has been ratified;

(d)       Works on the lot be brought into conformity with the Zoning Bylaw;

(e)       Following the works on the lot being brought into conformity with the Zoning Bylaw, the owner apply for and obtain a building permit for existing works in the "Accessory Area" and "Bank Protection Area"; and

(f)         Receipt of a $10,000 performance security.

VV queried; SJN said it cd be a draw down

Man: somebody turned in, presumably owner

piece of paper I got from M, read it and it sounded reasonable

then on this, somebody has made up Page? owner of prop?

this prop and the diagram he has on this form has no relationship!

if he wants to build, he builds on his prop or next to his prop line

he's got down here, shrub hedges -- never seen 12ft or more high

these are trees and cannot be pruned

Mr Barth has been up and seen it, 32 trees and Mr [X]  has since taken out trees

40 inches or more into the lane, not on his prop; 9.8ft; can't have; impossible

I've measured from facts, not just from facts

he's got a picture here, this hedge is not conforming to your bylaw [waving paper], right there

why to Ccl, nothing wrt what he's doing

I was not notified of this; wdn't hv come here but just found out by fiddling and asking

as of a week ago, it was not passed to be moved in and lived in

Mr O'Meara checked while there; and he's been living there almost since the beginning of the year with no permit

SJN: a policy Ccl deals with re planting of hedges outside of the prop line

distances primarily designed for streets; this is a lane

they put in rock walls and large cedar trees, we found location and species inappropriate

trees to be removed replaced by hedge material? not sure, b/c staff looking after this

are these just recently?

Ans: removed from the front of house, half to Palmerston

the ones at the back -- 12 to 16ft, that's how planted

SJN: the house here before, hedge was further out; there's a context placed in

also concerned about a fence not there rebuilt but further out

Mayor: is it our blvd policy that applies here?

height to be low, not block sightlines

SJN: distance re travel portion of road

stem is to be 9.8ft from travel

ranges from 3 to 6ft and some was existing hedge

location of retaining wall is within about a foot of where

the owner is here...

Derek Page: 1151 Palmerston; I brought along a diagram, hope it's large enough for you to see

prior to my building, here's the hedge [pointing], existing tree [here], and existing hedge -- westerly boundary

error I made in construction, hedge all along, DWV asked me to remove and I did, consulting with [DWV staff]

came to a plan; continued to retain these trees

these trees are further from the lane than the link fence was

part of the discussion was due to the fact that many of the hedges along the lane -- so wd be different from others

SJN: explain where that hedge is located

DP: [points] here, and bamboo hanging over

now mine [shows slide] rock hedge quite a few feet off so greater passage

this portion has western red cedars, 6ft off the lane, further back that others existing on the lane

JF: who uses that lane? reasonable access?

SJN: yes, as originally planted not appropriate, trees not hedges; now like rest of lane

extension of the paving so believe adequate, Engg Dept has been out

JC: won't move approved, move denied

Mayor: no seconder.......for discussion?

MS: have to have motion for discussion

staff report

JF: I'll move approval...

at a loss to understand the concern

SJN: not aware of anything other than the application

we're told that the hedge will guard not driving off or falling into the prop -- not further out than prev prop

most in WV like our hedge-y M, hundreds throughout the cmnty and as long as not blocking sightlines, residents seem to like them

JC: seems wrong angle; not so bad b/c not so large an encroachment; others shd trim theirs back

otherwise going round in circle

MS: Mr Stuart has made a good/sensible suggestion

I must admit, the staff report looked good so I shirked my duty and didn't drive by; give everyone time to visit it; I move a defer for a week

Mayor: discussion on deferral?

SSch: can be subject to request

SJN: bylaw is in draft form

when first drafted drove down 15th St and realized most did not comply

so put a clause in proposed bylaw that staff cd take into consideration what was already on the street, terms of context and approve variances from the bylaw provisions

bylaw not adopted so those variances we bring to Ccl

Mayor: I probably get a call a week about something going on in some lane that ppl are concerned about so notification is a good idea; back next week

~7:48

CARRIED

7:49

RECOMMENDED: THAT

            1.         Notification for Development Permit 06-046 (5776 and 5782 Marine Drive) which would provide for periodic maintenance and re-alignment of dock and float facilities, be waived; and

            2.         Development Permit 06-046 (5776 and 5782 Marine Drive) be approved.

SJN: provincial land; various marinas, etc, use under water lease for moorage of boats

years ago Ccl designated all the marinas as designated mandatory permit areas

meant upland portions

envtal and design control of buildings, areas abutting foreshore

didn't take into consideration docks and floats but there are no exemptions

this is nothing to do with rezoning

just to make sure work takes place in an envtally sensitive manner; saying for docks and floats will be referring to DFO and if approval received, don't believe DWV will impose additional envtal constraints

Reason is that Thunderbird will be doing some work -- removal of fill, dredging, adjusting after looking at market, providing larger moorage places -- but we're talking about replacement of dock;  we regulate with zoning bylaw saying waterlots can be used during construction

MS: what notification are we waiving; who are we supposed to notify?

SJN: if a Devt Permit (for a bldg), normally ppl within 50 or 100 metres so cd view plans b/c wd be siting and design

MS: this cd have a potential large impact b/c proposal reducing slips from 800 to 575 -- means 225  boaters looking for elsewhere -- good luck trying to find it

at least boating cmnty shd be notified; I keep my small boat there

noticed steady trend to turn into large yacht basin, looks like turning into that

when history is a small boat harbour

shd notify that 225 slips going to disappear, let chips fall where they may

SJN: Mike Fifer (Piper? cd bit hear owner's name) and Mark Sager are in the audience

Mayor: if Ccl has any questions, that wd fine

sorry, missed opportunity to provide any comment in advance of our discussion

any questions?

CAO: if DP is for protection of env or siting, fine; reducing slips do not fall within the DP arena

M might find itself in a difficult position

inconsistency -- may not be able to reduce slips; if Ccl taking exception to that, may not be able to do that

Mayor: think his question is that this is a change and why wd we waive notification

RD: on Cclr Smith's question to Mr Sager, apparently he's prepared to speak to that

Mark Sager: 5751 Seaview Place, one of the neighbours of Thunderbird Marina

and Mike Defiefa {sp? cdn't clearly hear the owner's name}

in fact those slips are vacant, it's a realignment

docks in state disrepair; anyone attending there wd see that they're in need of repair

no question must be updated, been there since--

Owner: 1968

MSager: they're done [for]; window of opportunity, got senior govt approval, and it's now [opp]

notification of nbrs, and I'm one of them

Heinz Investments other ppl who own prop across the street, they're 100% in favour

and if I look at the 100 metre notification

wd affect v few ppl; wd think you'd have complete support

Mayor: have you notified those in the slips?

Owner: a couple of years ago sent out notice some time ago (months?) that changes are coming

how laid out still somewhat in the air

wd never do something to hurt our customers, happier clients are happier we are

In our opinion, this is a technicality

notification of clients will come once we finalize layout -- we're reacting to the market

we're not telling the market where to go, we have vacancies and this is the right time

Sager: analogy, same as a restaurant, changing table or seating arrangement

agree with CAO, beyond this Ccl to comment on, even if it had an impact, wd be outside M's jurisdiction

Mayor: thank you for sharing that; it was about notification

CARRIED with Mike Smith opposed.

7:59

RECOMMENDED:

            THAT the report dated October 19, 2006 titled "Hollyburn Cabins Non-Family Transfers" be received for information.
 Catherine Rockendale: prez of Hollyburn Ridge Cabin Assn

you're in possession of letter; attached letters; hours and money spent to meet DWV's

..... whose transfer was blocked on the Oct 2nd motion and Jackie Swanson

Assn supports that each cabin on its own merits; support report

cabins not uniform in conformity

concerned recent motion to freeze will undermine good will; respectfully request Ccl lift the freeze

Mayor: any questions?

JF: attended the Hollyburn meeting...

able to reveal the costs for those who have maintained?

Ans: the range differs depending on the cabin; in the area of $15K - 35K

significant rainforest, we've had our family cabin for 50 years, rot if you aren't continually upgrading and maintaining

many cabins have not had the repairs so have required roof replacements and significant repairs

this is a one-time investment in terms of bringing the cabins up to [snuff??] ---so can be preserved

maintain this heritage, part of history

those of us who support and have maintained have seen this as of value

JF: report states that "...[reads]..."

Mayor: motion to receive

Ccl may wish to entertain lifting the freeze

good work, established; largely good b/c of work by Bill McCuaig, and Catherine Rockendale, thank you; Cclr Smith, your motion to make

MS: I move receipt

Mayor: those in favour?

-- oh, sorry, now discussion

MS: nice to think we can have discussion

Mayor: always

KPike: I'd like to note, but when knew Ccl not increasing, it was not necessarily fees, but in early 2000s our biggest concern was the deterioration of cabins

we're in middle of consulting with HRA, now reaching an end, reaching a conclusion; don't want to lose that process we've been going through despite the fact we want to look at administration, revenue, and fees

I brought that to Ccl and it was soundly disagreed with

JF: possible to lift the freeze and at the same time look at the fee structure

CAO: look at this in an expeditious manner; lift freeze but don't want to go on for years

wd not be inapprop to lift freeze, and Mr Pike cd look at that; we cd sit down with HRA and report back in three months; is that fair?

KPike: fair, hoped a shorter time, but that's better

want to look at legal; want to work with HRA; but we sign agreements with each permit holder

RD: rescind the freeze re transfers and as you suggested, consult with HRA -- correspond with what Mr Stuart and Mr Pike said

CAO: and wrt who's doing the repairs

JC: key paragraph, that freeze affects repairs; rescind freeze and

bit tricky to deal with all of the things you know

another reason, warrant for lifting the freeze and providing direction but when you [FSTS] do report your thoughts will be able to be phased in

things can't happen overnight

Ccl will want to consider diff models or revenue streams as they compare to one another

not sure best way to make public policy

hear what's coming from the Task Force and I appreciate that

I believe best way to address any of this is in collaboration with cmnty

RECEIPT PASSED

MS: the intent of the motion we made [earlier] was not to freeze the cabin transfers in perpetuity but to serve notice that the whole question was to review transfers/fees and we were awaiting a staff report; I wd support this motion; happy to lift freeze and eagerly await report from staff

Added item:

8:19

CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS

9.         Consent Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence [10 - 14]

JF: pull 10

MS: not any short report on Cmnty Ctr, wd think public wd want

Mayor: yes; I'd like to speak to 14.1 and someone from gallery 14.9 [she means Collingwood 14.12]

BYLAWS FOR ADOPTION

JF: maybe mbrs of public don't know to have a fireworks display must have a permit from the M -- bring up so they know

REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA

11.       Development Variance Permit 06-032 Amendment (6836 Copper Cove Road)             RECOMMENDED:... received for consideration on Monday, November 06, 2006.

12.       Development Permit (for subdivision) Application No. 06?044 (6015 Eagleridge Drive)             RECOMMENDED:...received for consideration on Monday, November 20, 2006.

8:22

RECOMMENDED:

            THAT the report dated October 20, 2006 from the Deputy Director, Parks and Community Services titled Quarterly Report - Community Centre Construction be received for information.

Josie Chuback: construction progress

overview, also four reports, status re devt cost, budget, budget breakdown; budget in April this year; chart also opp for next budget (costing being done right now) on drawings being done with design -- will come to Ccl to see design/on budget

trades contract summary; savings b/c of having project mgr, working with consultant

negotiations

major partner, Coastal Health, separating out those costs

also Youth Band and Cafe -- will be recouping their costs over life

MS: next quarterly report will be an opp to make decision wrt Srs Ctr and Pottery Studio?

hoping you'll bring the biz case for adding a pottery studio instead of an indoor golf clinic or glassblowing; wd like to see it

JCh: pottery studio was identified as one of the areas

all have been located out to Gleneagles during construction

space had been designed but connected to Srs' Ctr ??????

MS: the Band is supposed to spend $1.6m for their space, how going?

JCh: not had a written report, working with XXXX,

all feedback is optimistic and hope to finalize arrangements in next three weeks

JC: we have about a dozen satellite facilities -- how's attendance shaping up?

JCh: attendance more positive than anticipated than planned

so been able to sustain participation...  and pottery, so distantly removed

JCh: don't have numbers, not sure 100% of transfers but v successful

JF: when Ccl made decision to scale down by postponing things such as connection with Srs' Ctr

thought might take place at at same time; poss to make connection

when you come forward with next report, what bldg costs if able to build at same time or as an addon later on (wch wd be more costly) want to know how much more if delayed

if some amazing person in our cmnty, windfall, won lottery, it is possible to donate to M

JCh: the costing we're having done right now

wrt connection to Srs' Ctr, can look at opp and delay or if not enough money to do

JF: and if someone so inclined willing to assist

JCh: plant the seed?

JF: what to do with $5m, tax receipt?

JCh: a legacy

CORRESPONDENCE FOR CONSENT AGENDA

14.       Correspondence for Action and Information [total list in previous issue]

14.1            L. Feil, Executive Director and D. Hopkins, Artistic Director, undated, regarding request for delegation re Mountain Mardi Gras (File:  0055?01)

                    Referred to the Municipal Clerk for response regarding delegation scheduling.

Mayor: I'm not entirely comfortable with inviting ppl as a delegation asking for $10K.  They came last year

CAO: cd be referred to grants cmte; wd be approp to change motion to delegation to grants cmte

KP: talking about that; will have some other ideas

Mayor: motion?

SSch: for the amendment

Mayor: referral to?

KP: perhaps to Ms Matheson [Cultural staff]

wd like to flush other ideas out at same time.

JC: referral to Finance cmte; this function is in Feb

DONE (referral)

14.12          E. Barth, Director, Engineering & Transportation to D. and S. Erb, October 18, 2006, regarding Collingwood School - Morven Campus

Mayor: issue of what was proposed and now withdrawn

Douglas Jamieson (sp?): 85 Glengarry Crescent

became active about a week and two days ago when aware residential area to parking lot

now paying attn to DWV website

went through Variance Bd; saw it wd be on Correspondence

mbrs of cmnty present here strong support for what we believe is inappropriate

Glenmore became private school about 1988

that school seems to have morphed into a secondary school

astounded about parking in nbrhd, cdn't take dog for a walk

stunned at arrogance for a private school toward us/the nbrhd

Transportation and Engg Bd hv done a lot of good work and policing parking issue

about buying prop, suspected it was for parking; ignored us

petition of 65 ppl submitted to school and to you our dislike for this plan

and the school said not something we had to worry about, assured us in writing

so when Mr Dozzi's letter arrived, we were naturally angry

and the decision to meet on a rainy morning at 8:30am with two working days' notice angered us further

nonetheless the entire nbrhd to a man, 100%, either had a letter or was there in person that morning to express disapproval

we don't feel a parking lot on residential prop enhances what for us is the biggest investment I'm ever going to make in anything

have a copy of the bylaw here -- a couple of things that concern me

compounding

big thing that's important and we've spoken this evening about bylaws

[8:40] we have a school here that's restricted

reducing wd reduce parking need; why not apply the bylaw?

and then a parking lot -- displays arrogance

see letter withdrawing turning residential into parking lot

Mayor: thank you for coming this evening.  Mr Barth?

EB: I can comment wrt parking

the intention was not for this to be a permanent parking lot; stemmed out of complaints about impact on cmnty re parking, school events, etc

discussions re moving students to other campus

in discussing this with the school, even if they were able, the next day, cd we expect the cmnty to put up with this so idea of a temporary parking lot came up

found out v quickly no support for that proposal so staff will not proceed; school retracting the request for parking

wrt zoning bylaws, defer to Mr Nicholls

Man: disturbed by that, "at any one time"; the bylaw says anytime

certainly you wd have been warned

believe you're mtg; believe Collingwood is also dealing with how many students they have and needs

JF: when not in diapers, I was on sch bd

certainly numbers were one of the conditions

remember hdmaster saying that as a private school they cd forbid them to drive to school

for some time they did have buses; don't know if they still have

isn't just private schools, public schools same problems

something we cd put into

JC: as you know I chair the school traffic cmte, with sch bd, and at our last mtg we had a rep of the sch bd attend and he heard from police and bylaw enforcement

inordinate amt of time attending schools; they're hearing it from everybody

VV: if non-compliance, then look at footprint etc

if school has grown too large then signif to deal with; even if complies; not comfortable

not happy bylaw officers spending inordinate time shd be billed back to schools

[Pam left; RD took chair]

MS: Mr Jamieson didn't live in the nbrhd at the time

so give you a brief history

leased in early 1980s, was going to be closed; nbrs did not want a boarded up school; so Sch Bd negotiated lucrative arrangement; leased it to Collingwood for five years then they bought it

at the time we put limits

JF was correct

somehow this seems to have collapsed like a pricked balloon

that was the intent,  Ccl F was on the Sch as was I

8:52

RD: fortunate to attend dedication for the expansion of Kiwanis Lodge last Saturday

on 21st St, 75 units for seniors, subsidized housing, quite beautiful

rooms spacious and comfortable, ppl love it

orig Kiwanis Lodge plus new bldg and room yet for another extension to the north

come a long way providing housing for seniors and want to thank Kiwanis for good work it's done over the years

attended by number of dignitaries, Mayor came over from a Police Bd mtg, and MLA Ralph Sultan was there plus Kiwanis members

great achievement, 21st and Gordon

Mayor: thank you, outstanding

JC: Gordie McLennan Dep Fire Chief jumped over fence and saved a lady in her 80s

at great personal risk; had he been injured he wd not have been covered by WCB

so much for the four-man truck thing

8:57

staff lead to match with; each cclr taking on a portfolio

operate with a template, guidelines Mr Stuart will supply

plan circular to ev home so cmnty understands what we're doing so opp to become involved

goal to have appointments in place in Nov; meet for first time in Dec

how far we've come to totally reinvigorate and innovate; know we're being watched; Ms and other administrators interested

thx for open mind

re UBCM I'll provide a written report for next week;

met with ministers: Finance, Solicitor, Tourism Sports, Arts, Transportation, etc..... successful mtgs will report next week

spent time on Legacies now

in prep for day long Thursday to get our Spirit Cmte up and running

a week away but time well spent

thank you Cclrs Clark, Smith, Vaughn, and Mr Stuart for participating

8:58

CR: Good evening, Editor WV Matters

I think that I can get away and then there's something that comes up that I have to say somethng about, I'm sorry

[A]  Cmnty ctr, really great, you've got a quarterly report

Mayor: I'll ask Mr Stuart to respond

CAO: prelim workshop with Ccl, generate a number of options then come forward with public report

CAO: that's correct

CR: you anticipated my next question b/c usually -- tyvm -- the information is out for the groups by then

Cclr Day and I were on Ccl when that came to Ccl -- and I remember that condition -- that was about all there, Mr Nicholls and Ms Scholes of course were there

what occurred to me with that is that you--

SJN, laughing: switched to electricity since then

CR: yes, right

Mayor: might need a little renewal

CR:  I came up in my walker! :-)

yes, you're right, the problem is with all the schools so that's not unusual

but what struck me is that at the time, when someone said, it wd be limited to 600 students and from K to 12. there were ppl who expressed the opinion that this probably wd not continue

Now, I know that the bylaw officers are really very busy looking at parking and parking tickets and things like that and I appreciate those comments, but one of the complaints that I know you've heard and even cclrs have made is that often our bylaws are really good but are not regularly and thoroughly enforced and I know a few years ago one of the ccls reduced the number of bylaw officers so I think you shd look at that but the second thing, it occurred to me that it wdn't occur to most ppl what the enrolment was at a school to see if it was being complied with

wdn't require someone who's going around giving tickets

so when you're look at your bylaw enforcement wch I understand you might be doing b/c of this it wd be good to see if ppl are checking up

I've been involved with that since 1989, with Mr Nichols and all the rest too

it is the third week in Feb, starts on the third Mon of Feb, and earlier this year, the Mtn Mardi Gras came, as you said, and asked for money and I pointed but that's on the same day that you have your ceremony and you give your heritage awards

I have spoken with them in meantime and they were unaware of it of course and Park Royal (wch is where I've had the Heritage Fayre on the Sunday b/c you have the ceremony on the Sat)

[Park Royal said] we have the fayre on the Sun, so we gave them Sat

anyway to cut the story short, the NShore Social Services wants the Sat b/c the hours are longer

and I've been talking to staff and I'll be talking to Ccl too

but it does mean -- I want to let everybody know the third Monday in Feb every year is the beginning of Heritage Week, and we have our ceremony usually on the Sat

I just wanted to bring it up in case somebody forgets

wrt Mtn Mardi Gras AND b/c nobody mentioned it for the Volunteer Festival

Mayor: tyvm

this last exercise wrt parking is a good example, sometimes when the spotlight is turned on, something gets raised

and in this case the headmaster says they have 710; that's too many and so we will be following up on that

Mayor; tyvm

CAR: didn't mean it as a criticism re bylaw enforcement

Mayor: thank you v much, Carolanne
CR: wanted to explain

Mayor: thank you; motion to adjourn

9:05  17.  ADJOURNMENT

 

CALL TO ORDER // APPROVAL OF AGENDA // ADOPTION OF MINUTES - No items presented.

3.         V. MacGregor, President, West Vancouver (BC/Yukon) Branch 60, Royal Canadian Legion, regarding Presentation by Royal Canadian Legion re Veterans' Week November 5 - 11, 2006             REPORTS

4.         Alteration Permit 05?026 (4769 The Highway), Further Information for Consideration of the Alteration Permit

RECOMMENDED: THAT

            1.         The Council report, Further Information for Consideration of the Alteration Permit", dated October 27, 2006, be received.

            2.         The Alteration Permit 05-026 (4769 The Highway) be approved.

            At the October 16, 2006 meeting, Council received the report dated October 13, 2006 from the Community Planner ... for reference.

RECOMMENDED:  THAT all written and verbal submissions, ... be received.

If Council wishes a further staff report, then:

RECOMMENDED:   THAT Staff report back to Council regarding submissions...

OR

RECOMMENDED:   THAT the Development Variance Permit ...  be approved.

RECOMMENDED:

            THAT Boulevard Encroachment Request (1151 Palmerston Avenue) to allow for a hedge and rock retaining wall in the public boulevard be approved.

 

RECOMMENDED: THAT the non-family transfer of Cabin #244 be approved as per the Hollyburn Ridge Cabin Permit to Occupy, Clause 20(b).

RECOMMENDED THAT:

1.  Council receive the 2006 Mid-Year Review; and  2.  The Review be posted to the District web site.

 

RECOMMENDED:

 THAT Council authorize the conversion of the Police E-COMM Class B Shares to Class A Shares.

 CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS

11.       Consent Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence

The following Consent Agenda items may be considered separately or in one recommendation.

REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA

12.       Development Applications Status List (File:  1010?01)

CORRESPONDENCE LIST FOR CONSENT AGENDA

Requests for Delegation --  No items received.;  Action Required  --  No items received.

No Action Required (receipt only)

     (a)    North Shore Family Court and Youth Justice Committee Minutes

     (b)    Board of Variance Hearing Minutes (File:  2310?02)

     (c)     Fiscal Sustainability Task Force Minutes:  August 15, 2006, August 22, 2006 and September 5, 2006

13.2 T. Lester, October 20, 2006, regarding Ferry Building addition (File:  0545?03)

13.3 Staff and Students of Saint Anthony's School, October 16, 2006, regarding Remembrance Day Service on Friday, November 10, 2006

13.4 D. Bourque, National President, Canadian Union of Postal Workers, October 16, 2006, regarding Moratorium on Post Office Closures and Rural Delivery

13.5 R. Sultan, MLA, West Vancouver-Capilano, October 23, 2006, regarding Community Tourism Funding Programs

13.6 K. Pike, Director, Parks and Community Services to M. de Jong Westman, October 25, 2006, regarding Park Consultation and Communication

13.7 Responses to Questions in Question Period -  No items presented.

14.  REPORTS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCILLORS  //  15.  PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS   //  16.   ADJOURNMENT

 

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