Determined to have a long weekend mostly free so this may not be as complete as usual, however it is a report of four, yes four, ccl mtgs!

NB: Next Ccl Mtg is May 28th: think water consumption report and Collingwood/parking on agenda.

=  Vive le Canada; DOWNUNDER (Taking care of your Aussie bloke), RIDINGWATCH, SCIENCEWATCH, CULTUREWATCH; INFObit (2006 DWV Salaries/Expenditures); Calendar to May 31st

= Ccl Mtg NOTES:

   o  May 7 -- budget, Ev Dr (heritage house), (exclusive) Amb walkabout, (non)notification, Vera's

   o  May 9 and 11 -- budget, budget, budget, Five-Yr Financial Plan: rescinding readings moving all three again; user fee dilemma (Srs' Ctr represents at least 1% of DWV budget).

   o  May 14 -- BC Hydro delegation/trees; Kay Meek Ctr Update; Adoption of budget and zero tax rate increase!; more Ev Drive; Police/E-Comm/IRSU/Top Ten Accident spots in WV

= Maiku (Father Time); Quotations (coincidence? calculated? coffee cup at Hall; politics; cars/traffic)

-  Tell me it ain't so! Snow in NB and in Saskatchewan on the Victoria Long Weekend!

-  Heritage Society of BC's annual conference starts May 31, at Lonsdale Quay.

Taking care of your Aussie bloke -- for women only: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/05/17/1178995311349.html

MLA Ralph Sultan's latest newsletter: http://www.ralphsultan.com/Newsltr-2007/newsltr-2007-welcome.html

Space weather -- Look down, look up, look out!

May 10th 2007 | KANGERLUSSUAQ, GREENLAND -- From The Economist print edition

* Apologies, haven't seen Robert LePage's Andersen Project yet

* THEATRE at NV's Presentation House [from their press release]

Ali and Ali and the aXes of Evil ~~ May 24 - 27 at 8pm [We saw an early version over a year ago]

Tickets are $12; $10 Preview Thursday May 24 at 1 pm

Fresh from the border and the US Immigration Detention Centre in Blaine, WA the Alis return to BC for a victory lap. A satirical assault on the newest New World Order, Ali and Ali is a "hilarious and eye opening evening of political theatre -- extremely politically-incorrect political theatre." - CBC Radio

Seen it before? Think you've seen it all? Think again my friend! Ali and Ali is newly reconditioned to fit the happenings of today. It's all very "now".  Haven't seen this masterpiece of Canadian agitprop, yet? We promise you, once you've had Agrabanian you never go back.

Tickets: www.phtheatre.org - Information: boxoffice@phtheatre.org and neworldtheatre.com

===  INFObits ===  DWV S= alaries and Expenditures 2006

http://www.westvancouver.ca/upload/documents/council_agendas/2007/april/apr23/5.1_ot.pdf

===  CALENDAR to May 31st  ===  [all at M Hall unless otherwise]

+++  see www.kaymeekcentre.com  +++ or call 913 3634

Deborah Stephan: acrylic on canvas; Carla Tak: oil & acrylic on canvas; Laura Kaufman-Weisbord: kiln-formed glass

Join Joe Ronsley for an ongoing reading & discussion of Ulysses. Drop in to any session, 10:30am - 12:30pm in the Peter J. Peters Room. For more info call the Reference Dept. at 925 7405.

Sea-to-Sky Highway Improvement Project Office; Ph. 604-775-1104; Fx. 604-775-1144

E-mail: info@seatoskyimprovements.ca; Website: www.seatoskyimprovements.ca

== Tues, May 8th  -- Cmnty Services mtg NOT ON DWV CALENDAR

 ~ 4 - 6pm ~ NSh Walks Kick Off (The Village at Park Royal)

== Fri, May 11th  ~ 8:30 - 10:30pm ~ Music Night -- The Medicine Path (Gleneagles Cmnty Ctr)

~ 9am - 1pm ~  Gleneagles Garage Sale (Gleneagles Cmnty Ctr)

~ 10am - 4pm ~ Dundarave Farmers' Market in the village

== Mon, May 14th  ~ 10am ~ Cmnty Engagement Cmte Mtg

~ 3:45pm ~ Youth Awareness Cmte [ON CALENDAR, went there and no one there; cdn't find group on DWV website either]

~ 7pm ~ Cmnty Dialogue Nbrhd Character and Housing WG mtg (I found out about but not on Calendar); huge task

Speaker: Manuel Achadinha, VP Terminal Operations, BC Ferries Corporation

~ 8am ~ Ambleside Town Ctr Strategy WG mtg -- heard been changed from 15th and will be held at Ch of Commerce boardroom -- NOT ON DWV CALENDAR

~ 4:30pm ~ First Heritage Strategic Plan Implementation WG mtg (it's just being set up and awaiting mbrs' confirmation able to attend).

~ 7pm ~ Board of Variance in Ccl Chambers and Library Board at the Library

~  7:30pm ~ HOLLYBURN HERITAGE SOCIETY AGM at Srs' Ctr

== Thurs, May 17th == NB: STREAMKEEPERS' MTG HAS BEEN MOVED TO MAY 31  (see below)

~ 6pm ~ NSh Family & Youth Justice Cmte at CNV M Hall

Amazing.  Never been on Calendar (but then it wasn't when it was an adv cmte either).  Doing research trying to find out about each of the WGs, and lo and behold here's this one.  If you're interested, this is looking at facilities and Ambleside (subtext: art gallery).  In any case I'm writing this May 19th and note the first mtg is recorded as having been Apr 20 with an agenda, now it has the date May 18th at the museum (misspelled), but there's still NO agenda posted for yesterday's mtg.  No hint of that special mtg with Fred Kent re Amb (see May tth ccl mtg).  Anyway, hope they're running out of excuses.

~ 9 - noon ~ BROOM REMOVAL (the plant, silly) at Lighthouse Park

The Lighthouse Park Preservation Society is organizing this to remove broom plants from the rocky

~ 10am - 4pm ~ Dundarave Farmers' Market in Dundarave Village (EVERY SATURDAY)

== Wed, May 23rd ~ 6:30pm ~ Child Care Services WG -- NOT on Calendar

~ 7pm ~ WV Historical Society at Srs' Ctr

o  Speaker: Don Grant, Archivist/Historian of the Hollyburn Heritage Society.  Mr Grant will present a video "Hollyburn Ski Camp / Hollyburn Ski Lodge", followed by an overview and update of the Hollyburn Ski Lodge Restoration.  Also, this presentation will include a short video "Changing Landscapes: Views from the Summit".

o  AGM MEETING:  The constitution and bylaws have been reviewed.  The AGM will consider bylaw changes, phone 926 5275 or 922 0726 to find out what they are.

~  Possible CEC subcmte mtg 11:30am

~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte moved to June 7

~ 6 - 7:30pm ~ Parent Focus Group: for parents of chn 6 - 12, dinner and childcare provided

This is a public meeting at Gleneagles Community Centre. Information will be collected in confidence. For more information, please contact Stacy at smetz@westvancouver.ca

The Middle Childhood Matters Project is a United Way initiative with the intent to increase the capacity of North Shore organizations to provide opportunities, activities and supports for school-aged children 6-12 years old and their families.

== Fri, May 25th ~ 10am - 4pm ~ Arts of a Lifetime Show at Srs' Ctr (starts; closes Sunday)

~ 10am - 4pm ~ Dundarave Farmers' Market in Dundarave Village (EVERY SATURDAY)

~ 10am - 5pm ~ WV Fire Dept Car Wash at 13th & Bellevue

~ 2pm ~ Lighthouse Park Preservation Society AGM at Library, followed by a guest speaker

~ 7:30 - 10am ~ 10 km Rotary Seawalk Run at Park Royal Village

~ 9am - noon ~ Westie Walk Dog Walk at Lighthouse Park

~ 10am - 2pm ~ Arts of a Lifetime at Srs' Ctr

== Mon, May 28th ~ 11am ~ CEC mtg

~ 4:30 ~ F&A Cmte

~ 6:30pm ~ Cmnty Dialogue Nbrhd Character and Housing WG - NOT ON CALENDAR (yet)

at St Stephen's, 885 - 22nd Street

See www.streamkeepers.westvan.org or call 628 1123 for more information.

Alan Berger scans the globe with camera and insights into contemporary development-your guide to a vast, largely ignored field of waste landscapes and to the new chaotic urban landscapes in the emerging world. Expect a radical reconceptualization of your thinking. Alan Berger is Associate Professor, Department of Landscape Architecture, Harvard Graduate School of Design. Author of "Drosscape: Wasting Land in Urban America" and "Nansha Coastal City: Landscape and Urbanism in the Pearl River Delta".  Details: http://www.sfu.ca/city/fpl4popup.htm

Join us for a panel discussion with Dr. Larry Frank, architect John-Paul Thornton and transportation engineer Lon LaClaire. Dr. Frank, the Bombardier Chair holder in Sustainable Transportation at UBC's School of Community and Regional Planning, specializes in the interaction between land use, travel behaviour, air quality, and health. Mr. Thornton will comment on the relationship between parking and the development and financing of higher density housing and Mr. LaClaire will focus on density and transit.  Details: http://www.sfu.ca/city/fpl12popup.htm

Gordon Price, Director of the SFU City Program and previously a Vancouver city councillor, may live north of the Fraser in the West End, but he knows the future of the Lower Mainland will be determined more by what happens south of the Fraser. Price will talk about past actions and future visions. His lecture will show how most of the region came to be, what influenced its progress, and what possibilities and trade-offs need to be considered for a more sustainable future. Price will also speculate on what issues will be debated by city councillors to come.  Details: http://www.sfu.ca/city/fpl13popup.htm

Noisette is being restored as a sustainable community -- one based on a triple bottom line: people, planet, and prosperity. The Noisette Company principal John Knott will give an overview of this community's master plan to develop as a diverse, interrelated network of neighbourhoods, parks, retail areas, industrial partners, civic facilities, and connections to surrounding communities. Details: http://www.sfu.ca/city/fpl5popup.htm

Mayor: Sorry we're a bit late, trying to get a lot accomplished in one evening

1.  APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Amended by deferring Item 4 (McKechnie) to May 28th; add'ns to Correspondence; May 2nd/5th Proposed Operating Budget

Mayor: move to adoption of our five-year financial plan. Mr Stuart, did you wish to address some questions raised last week?

CAO: have prepared a response to the ITAC submission, support qtrly financial reports, moving up budget process, tabled process will start in June and end mid-January

start 2008 budget in June; F&A mtg tomorrow

hope to start dialogue; TF framework; maybe as early as June or July

CAO: exempt or union?

Sop: exempt staff

fairly straightforward, union increases and ev three years market adjustment

have Fire Dept in fact [received] more b/c access to overtime?

Sop: wd the Fin Cmte of Ccl entertaining mbrs of Ccl on it to look at, a review of remuneration of staff of the District

http://www.westvancouver.ca/upload/documents/council_agendas/2007/april/apr23/5.1_ot.pdf

...

CAO: if Ccl wd like us to review

Fin cmte will

one has been expenditure review

as it stands now is a Ccl devpd policy

Mayor: F&A can take charge of that and report to Ccl

MS: wonder if Cclrs Clark and Sop going to replace with another five-yr plan

JC: wd be adjusted

not an expert; if I were invited to cmte or sat on cmte as I sat on Task Force

looking at some generous amts of money; some needed, others need a long hard look

shd hv something that says we know where we're going

I look at this and see some assumptions; don't think we'll be able to meet some of them

CAO: both the FSTF and F&A recommended at or below; next year....

fairly late in the process

have to convene a mtg sometime later this week; find money

have to have a budget for next Monday

if Ccl has any policy or direction as to where want to see cuts

JC: appreciate what saying but the FTF did not have the info we had about the windfall announced at Ccl last week

Mayor: I do think this budget does challenge the cmnty in its first year: user fees and O/T in Fire Dept

rather than not adopting at 11th hour

rather than rescinding and going back, what wd you recommend to staff?

JC: roughly this time last year, we express....... $40M  within five days reduced by $5M

you're now saying you can't find $250K in a $65M budget

CAO: over months, not five days; we're not suggesting we can't find it, rather the right $250K

if on Wed not right, running out of time to meet legal obligations

we'll do best we can; if there is direction we'd be pleased

say down zero, it's v late in the game; we've already made a lot of cuts

Sop: well words

just had high level; in front of public just listen

I shdn't be telling staff where to cut, they shd be telling me

if they can find $5M they can find $250K at this late date

may be opening the door for Mr Stuart to give me info

when TransLink sends back info overpaid, cd be put in 2008 budget rather than this operating budget

we've focused on what we think is the best thing to do

Sop: so money can be allocated by staff to reduce 2.95%

Sop: a good thing, next year or now

still a lot of work to do

when I got on a year ago, I asked questions.......

so we had a Task Force and a F&A cmte to go through  to justify all expenses, review

thought it was the sensible way to go

wd like to see a 10% cut in taxes; someone shd, shdn't be left to staff...

VV: interested to see all the birds; sooner or later the chickens come home to roost

Sop: next week?

CAO: think adoption deferred to Wed to special Ccl mtg Wed, potential cuts discussed at F&A

Mayor: so not rescinding

JC: okay with me

Sop: may I be invited to that mtg?

Mayor: yes?

Sop: Cclr V? Cclr Day?

Mayor: certainly, where have you been?

CAO: running out of time

Sop: ...

Mayor: we're deferring adoption;

CAO: only six of you here this evening

make this an informed decision

if I counted the votes correctly the motion to rescind  might not pass, nor to adopt

so all this does is defers for a couple of days, if zero, days to consider

RD: we're asking the F&A to give us an opinion on zero? endorsing?

indiv ccl mbrs may not be in favour of some of the options

Sop: 5 also deferred

Mayor: MClerk to read motion

SSch: to adopt or rescind be deferred to Wed so to F&A tomorrow?

Sop: ways and means? zero?

Mayor: rationale

CAO: wrt recommendations to zero budget

RD: re zero-based budget, thought asking opinion

Mayor: not zero-based budget, zero tax rate increase

CAO: ....[F&A/staff]

RD: can they give an opinion or telling them

CAO: telling them to comment on how to achieve

RD: can they say can't be done?

Mayor: yes

diff this year; spent more time

FSTF principle and policy we're trying to work with

really do think we can expect quite a lot of public input [for?] zero and keep things the way they are

the words I use in my enclosure with the tax bill, the strain ppl feeling

JC: that mtg is 4:30 tomorrow here

Mayor: F&A cmte, yes

MClk: deferral to Wed

Mayor: date?

MClk: date place and time

Mayor: 9am Wed May 9

Mayor: oops, 8:30

RD: move it at 9am

ADOPTED

REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA -- removed 14, 15 for discussion

[Sop leaves for Ev Dr item.]

Mayor: Welcome

CR:  Good evening.  My question and comments are about process.

During the special design review cmte mtg on Evelyn Drive [last week] some interesting comments were made.

One question was that they asked to be provided with the FAR and, I think, also site coverage figures -- they had some but either not the former or the present so that they cd not make a comparison.  I'd thought providing that information was automatically done b/c of course FAR and site coverage wd be expected if you're considering a devt.  May I suggest that pertinent information as to FAR and site coverage be supplied as a matter of procedure especially when there are some choices.  They asked for it and that's how I found out they didn't know/have some of the information.

When I asked the cmte if they were aware that a heritage house was in the devt area, the answer was no.  May I therefore recommend that the existence of any heritage resource, whether house, location, rare species, or whatever be part of the information given to the cmte.  You will recall a few weeks ago when we discovered that the house in that devt (a first for BPP and where the King and Queen had tea in 1939 at the opening of the Lions' Gate Bridge) was about to be demolished, but none of the heritage/historical groups -- and I understand not Council either for that matter -- had been informed of the possibility of the loss, I asked that that status and warning be given out to the involved people and groups.  IOW, I wd like that [to be] part of the process.  If there's any heritage resource that is at any risk whatsoever, this information shd to be given to Ccl and historical and heritage groups.  It wd be appreciated if you wd pls give us assurances that this will be done in future.

Since the bylaw before the one passed in December included the house as a gathering place [or child care] as one of the cmnty amenities, most thought it was suitable to be kept in that case, and as Cclr V pointed out, assumed some sort of protection so that it wd not be vandalized, or maybe some other sort of arrangements wd be made.  I'd heard a staff mbr had said something to the effect it loses value if moved, and I'm wondering if that was the basis on wch Millennium was told not to bother or whatever; I don't know.  To that I wd say, many wd prefer to have a heritage asset moved than to lose it altogether.  That wd depend on what it was -- but it shd be evaluated and discussed, not an arbitrary decision made almost in a vacuum.  The devpr hasn't the obligation to inform anyone and when asked they thought we'd all been told.

At Design Review [last week] they also talked about cmnty benefits and amenities.  It occurred to me that since $2.5M was to be put in trust by Millennium as part of the devt, the cmte shd be made aware of that.  They had many, many good ideas. I don't know whether it wd have involved any of that money, but they had many good ideas and they shd possibly know that there's some money that has been set aside.

Although in reply to my query here recently Ccl said it wd be their decision with wch I agree, surely if any group or cmte had any ideas or concepts Council wd welcome them.  It's not that I'm suggesting any of the $2.5M necessarily be used for that house, but before any other opportunities are lost, perhaps putting that out for public input regarding amenities shd be done asap.

IOW, if we have that $2.5M, and it was part of the condition for that increased density/zoning, we shd start asap in soliciting from the public, and you yourselves obviously, to make a list of the things you wd like to see so that when you come to the decision, we won't have lost some opportunities and you will have as broad as consultation and as long a list as you wd like to have to [consider], rather than much later and hardly anything there.

Mayor: thank you

Mayor: yes, and actually there are a couple of policy questions around that, and we're not going to have time tonight

CR: no, I know

Mayor: I'd like to go to Cclr V now, maybe she wants to incorporate some of that, I'm not sure. Thank you for your input.

CR: thank you

when I looked back at the docs, discovered in Sept last year, Ccl was contemplating $600K of the $2.5M was to be used; to set this as up as daycare facilities, renovate, parking spots

when staff took staff's recommendation that we not do that, we believed we thought refraining from spending over $600K but never believe we were deciding that therefore it wd be destroyed

move not accept as it is, contemplate accept it as amended

that it wd resume the protection it was given

we can decide later what portion $$$; to what extent or for what purpose

not be consenting to destruction; not a matter for staff necessarily assume

shd put this back under the guardianship of the Ev Dr project of since it shdn't hv been removed

Mayor: wonder if shd be on consent b/c substantive; believe Ccl will want to look at this

maybe defer....more fulsome debate

VV: can we take position delay any demolition permit

don't want to hold up the devpr

think bldg can be moved to a location on the site so not obstruct progress on the project

no point discussing if demolished while we're talking

CAO: after this matter was discussed

I'd thought Cclr V had indicated b/c of damage that it had little value left

don't know if in legal position to prevent demolition

SJN: don't know if bldg exists now; not designated heritage

without going into the history of it, we cd have a look at it

staff and Millnm did look at possibilities if house cd be used an moved

rejected in first one, not in second one but approval

if house still exists will report back to Ccl on status

Mayor; entertained whole matter; still feel master plan shd be on [ccl] agenda

has it gone to the Design Cmte?

SJN: first phase of master plan to Design Review; and they did endorse proceeding on the concept

refined plan will come back on ccl agenda

CAO: might be helpful to defer receipt of this to a future mtg

so Ccl and public get an overview, even at this stage

Mayor: for receipt or defer future ccl mtg?

VV: defer

SJN: strictly an information report now; ask for report on 742 Keith

CAO: defer mtg to May 14 or 21 and request report on Keith Rd prop as well

Mayor: 14, no ccl mtg 21; so May 14

[DONE]

RD: hoping the Heritage cmte, know on drawing board; has it met yet? they shd be dealing with this

VV: Heritage WG is planning to meet, don't know if 14th or 16th, I have to check

reading the guidelines, we may not consider anything not specific task designated, wch to deal with the heritage list

not do anything else b/c task-oriented unless Ccl directs it to consider, not a watchdog

wasn't one last year at the time this happening.

it's a learning experience.

RD: since about to meet, direct item to that, so suggestions

Mayor: typically first mtg adds things they want to do

RD: add to motion

CAO: perhaps Cclr V can take that

suggest to CEC that Tof Ref be revised accordingly

Mayor: work I've been doing for a year

all three mayors met with Sq Chiefs

sent to Minister Prentice's ofc; v clear opposed

May 9 deadline for submission

I believe we'll have a favourable outcome v soon after May 9

Sop: will be

Mayor: I don't think we're going to see billboards

Sop: through years; seen Sq ppl moving along, economic program, in spirit of cooperation, they approached us and said wanted to embark on that, possibly they wd recognize we do not like the visual impact of billboards

RD: good news; not official yet so can't celebrate

think the mayors and Sq ppl handled it well, cooperation; celebration b/c of good cooperation

talk directly without appealing to a lot of emotion

Mayor: if we don't have the outcome we're looking for then I think we'll have a battle no one will win

emphasis on places, not just a question of ppl

emphasis on places and ppl; make progress, more vitality in area

one of the real benefits this morning had staff from sev depts, a really sound public policy devt and fun

his bias is to design for 9 yr olds and 80 yr olds; if it works for them, works for everyone

at lunch, the Chamber took the lead, unbelievable guest, man of his stature, sold out v quickly; he gave a presentation

this afternoon we put together the Arts and Cult WG and the Ambleside WG, and worked through an exercise wch they will in turn lead cmty through

Mr Kent's goal, and he thinks the only thing that works is to have mbrs of public analyze these questions and come up with the solutions , staff facilitate and Ccl supports that

wonderful to see how well his philosophy fits with the types of things we're doing

we're in a process right now led by Planning and Parks Depts begun in March; Ccl is yet to make a decision

KP: process begun beginning of Mar; went out Mar 4 advertised Mar 13 on website

20.  ADJOURNMENT ~ 7:09

o  chqs presented from Rotary Sunrise and Park Royal

o  Colette Parsons (staff referred to above) gave a presentation on the Ambleside Town Ctr Strategy and they gave their views.

o  Ccl might want to look at the amt of money going into the new cmnty ctr for a youth portion since several expressed preference for staying in their own area, where the AYC is.

o  The most interesting part of the mtg for me was the discussion on whether or not to attend all-candidate mtgs during an election and whether votng shd be mandatory.

o  More on this later however, or this newsletter will never get out.

You can watch the mtg at rtsp://206.108.31.11/council_videos/2007/05/7ym/entire.smil

9am  -- CALL TO ORDER / 9:04

RD: add'l 3.1 sp mtg for Ccl Friday May 11 at 9am

Mayor: perhaps I shd give you an idea, outline the process; rescinding, amending information, having a debate; may not adopt [at same mtg], so will have three readings; believe 14th last mtg [for adoption].

Mayor: agenda says for adoption but we're going to rescind

CARRIED

Mayor: motion to amend Schedules A and B; and replace with schedules May 9 showing reduction in infrastructure of $240K

Sop: schedule gen operations 2007 shows $48,132,899, and information today is $47,892,899

RL: don't understand question

Mayor: think looking for confirmation from you as to where $240K comes from

RL: look at prop tax line, first line, reduced by $240K, expenditure at bottom transfers to reserves then infra amt has been reduced by 240K

Sop: so $1.240M

RL: No, in prev bylaw transfer $7,035,000, so 240K less in new bylaw

in Sched B, reduced equipment and furnishings by $25K, reduced vehicle fleet by $140K, facility maintenance by $75K; a total of $240K

transfer from reserves reduced by $240K

FIRST READING

SSch: first, amendment, as amended

JC moved 2nd and 3rd

MS second

Mayor: first to Mr Stuart to say how we got there

preparing us for 2008 budget

in reviewing the request with staff and F&A

our preference take principles; look at framework

given short time had, difficult to ensure dialogue with public wrt reduction of services, so deferral instead

...work in Klee Wyck, ... purchases for Fire Dept, and Parks

my recomm least painful way to achieve Ccl's objective in this case

will start to work on priorities, F&A, hope as early as June start discussion re budget; 2008 targets, hope dialogue public; balance interests, whether economic, fiscal, social, or environmental

Sop: assuming we embark on a new road how we look at finances in this cmnty wrt taxation

a serious look

thru 2008, much work cmte, Ccl, public; produce documents that might alter this 5yr plan

RL: likely outcome

Sop: for that reason I'll move away from my decision not to accept this

in place Tax Sust cmte, and Financial review cmte; if we embark on right road, some change that's going to be significant

opposed, still have major concerns, thoughts about how forecast out, but assuming and waiting for a new direction in 2008

based on that info support this 5yr plan today

VV: obviously happy with the way the first year of this five-yr plan is working out, although more to good luck than level of cutbacks able to make

not able to support five years, things not looked into

selling of M land and using the money

not opposed to selling bits and pieces, but to sell land for buying other land, use of public

the other principle is substantial borrowing and not had an in depth look, or cmnty in support wrt that financing

in particular don't see evidence of what TSTF and I've advocated, testing what taxpayers can afford

look at the statistics of household income, no evidence, monies go up ev year

not criticizing first year but not able to support the other four years

JC: want to commend staff highly finding in 24 hours money deferred/saved

continue we can eliminate taxes completely by the end of the year

what this has really brought to roost, there are savings there, however hard we have to look, creative we have to be, approaching biz

same in any biz, just kinda get lazy; I do it myself

feel it myself ...  way we do biz

till you get a boot in your rear end

only in prov to have a zero tax increase

if we can be that creative in our thinking in that short period of time

continue; fresh approach to the way we do biz

now we find a year later, drive to fiscal bandwagon, Ccl's seen the light make Billy Graham proud

this budget based on windfall from school levies and TransLink

in the year and a half I've been here talked about manpower, Police and Fire, changing fees in Parks Rec, looking at money spent on rec and culture, I suggested take a 50% cut in our stipend

none of these ideas go anywhere

as weeks unfold some hard decisions are going to have to be made

hope this bandwagon Ccl seems to be on, will result in cclrs making the tough decisions that lie ahead

caution ev; rubber has to hit the road, going to unfold in next few weeks and months

JF: was a little surprised arrive home last night after two weeks in Japan, to hear mtg this morning; and surprised, suddenly

when left 2.95&, now zero; am delighted TL and Sch lower

will be plsed to receive my tax notice end of spring

but I have misgivings in part /c I haven't been back long enough to know what it means

I know staff has worked extremely hard

deferring mntnce of our vehicle fleet, cmnty with trucks have diff coming down hill, safety for staff and cmnty

deferring equipment for Fire, I have questions

my timing, left me little time to get assurances not going to cause problems

see Ccl consensus

social and envtal, the other two sustainabilities

have to look hard wrt next year's taxes

not responsible to base your taxation on one base of sustainability, finance

maintain quality of life

hope that in next six months, our conversation with cmnty

I do have some concerns about this

RD: did have some concerns on Monday night

if you cut infra now, you're going to pay for it later, couple of years

sooner or later, big price

it's a relatively small amt of money; F&A cmte unanimous in recommending zero budget

at least it sets an example and shows our determination

took control of budget and determined to run our finances efficiently

so I will vote for this; at this point, let's do it; keep taxes down; we get good value for our taxes

Sop: prior to windfall Cclr V and I only two did not support

we were not making enough inroads

principle statement, want to congrat Mr L and Mr S; congrat for your efforts

look at this; a principled approach how look at in future

2008 and beyond, have opp to look at five-yr plan, hope see a new direction

happy on that basis; support this zero increase

no qualms that we're not going to make some good inroads

this is a proper approach; prudent; we've taken stock this year

promising in the future if we have some of the thoughts

Mayor: Ccl is likely to be unanimous but has all sorts of .........

don't think creative thinking in last 24 hours, in last year

gave TF free rein

framework that's going to serve us well

when Roff J handed it to us long term bolstered by some short term

bldg of Almondel bridge

result is base broadening; corollary of that, must demonstrate value for the money

debt is also how we're leveraging Van C H partnership, borrowing for them

for police stn may be debt or referendum -- direct rec from TF

look at indepth at Fire and Police and Parks; that begins next week with Fire

tremendous work over last year by staff, citizens, Ccl.......

get away from platitudes, broad categories haven't meaning

do have meaning; need to test some of the new stuff we're doing

I will be supporting this budget and interested in looking at 2008 budget next week

DONE
Mayor: next motion to defer

JF: defer annual tax rate bylaw to May 11th

Sop: intro on Fri of 2007 annual tax rate bylaw wd necessitate first, second, third readings

DEFERRAL PASSES

MS makes motion

CAO: nec b/c scheduled mtg is cmte of whole at wch motions not made so need ccl mtg for adoption

5.  PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS -- none

Sop: move adjournment of ccl mtg of May, uh

Mayor: 9th.  We have them every day now  :-)

Sop: 9th be adjourned.

JF: I have some questions about process; is there going to be an opportunity for public input and debate?

Mayor: normally that wd happen at second or third reading

SSch: Ccl can receive public input today or if they wish before adoption considered on Monday but adoption will be required to meet the deadline on Monday

Mayor: so this morning, over the weekend, and I think we shd probably provide that opp on Monday.

JF: I know some have come today to

Mayor: best have public input now, then have public debate

Dorothy Metcalfe: ...time for fitness class, didn't know come this early.....

I'm here as an advocate for those in WV on fixed income, with whom in touch for many years; on finance and program cmte of Srs' Ctr [SAC]; they treasure the Srs' Ctr

I know Srs' Ctr part of your budget

for those of you with handsome pensions and lunch money

shd be v careful about the work Srs' Ctr does

we've paid for the seawall, park, roads, and bridges

and the odious implication we shd share millionaires' taxes

on the blue sheet; referring to something on budget concerning increased fees to Srs' Ctr

some of them met with Kevin Pike and told it was a done deal

public relations, photo of happy seniors

talking to a retired widow of a highly placed UBC administrator

I find it difficult now to come and have a hot meal at the Srs' Ctr

cd go on forever

if I don't speak for those for whom it is a hardship

someone said not gouging, think that person in oil industry and they shd know about gouging

Mayor: increase from $25 to 30 [yearly fees for SAC mbrship]; the other is aquafit; are both unreasonable?

DM: aquafit, they have found it pricey compared with fitness, those classes are crowded

beautiful bldg

MS: what's this newsletter?

DM: here it is.  Budget 2007 graph.  No 3 - why is this being applied to Srs' Ctr?

share costs, meet with Srs' Adv Board

we shared in building this cmnty; few live here in houses now b/c $$$

in old days Robin Hood; now rob from poor for rich

KP: the material she's referring to is a survey worked on by our staff and Communications staff

out for about three weeks; got about 30 to 80 of them; we'll be getting back to you

Chris Lee: citizen at large but today representing SAC board

thank Dorothy Metcalfe for her comments

budget is always an interesting time; tells us about time and priorities

moved here about ten years ago, enchanted by this wonderful place

great work we have inherited from those who have worked in past

want to stress how important this is for all citizens, from young to elderly, to enhance quality of life

we're a wealthy cmnty; incumbent on us to maintain them and make them available to all

you must be aware, some of us are hurting; some of us have good pensions, others are not so fortunate

our thinking, your thinking, as a Council, is this going to be available to all, good fellowship, part of cmnty and connecting

keeping them in a healthy lifestyle, out of hospitals

thinking about money, have to think about volunteerism

whether hockey, soccer field

volunteers doing a great thing

let's do things to enhance life in this wonderful cmnty

book in celebration of WV's 75th anniversary; incumbent on us to maintain that.

[JF read first and second]

Sop: recommendation go to three readings; wch is zero

RL: the rates in this bylaw reflect budget we passed a few minutes ago; an all-up situation

MS: troubles me there's a misconception; for myself, find it offensive, I have a contract with a petroleum company out to gouge, but will let that pass

I haven't heard anyone not valuing Srs' Ctr, Aquatic Ctr, etc

lived here for 50 years

comments from staff, ....

still $6M subsidies for facilities and they're not going to disappear; no intent to go on a total user-pay system

misconception, we're meeting with the Srs' Board

VV: I'm looking forward to meeting with the advisory board

often said we're an affluent cmnty

I've been trying to get a

best guesstimate, ~ 15% affluent don't care how much charged

but 80% have to count their dollars

some doing it from a more expensive home

two working parents, two school chn, two cars; can't put 10% away

I've been trying to say, have a rational test of what our taxpayers can afford

20% living on less than $30K a year; you can look at another 20 - 30% difficult

looking at a fact, what may have been true in past and not any more

wd like to make seniors aware, we can work our way through step by step

we've all said not a sustainable rate of spending

JF: I've been expressing concern about budget

been away, return to what is being quoted to a zero

must admit Wed morning, a bit confused

not a zero per cent increase, just when include cut from TransLink and Sch Dist

using it to advantage

I'm a little distraught about that

not nec prudent of the District to further

came onto Ccl in 1999, no system in place for repairs and mntnce

and as a result of this, on hold for six months

1999, zero; including fire trucks and had to later

also think important, not system in place for sewer systems, water, and we have now done that

cutting back cap is not prudent

nor does it uphold the good principles

also concerned about increase in user fees, and cultural service

call said consider who's using the facilities, with kids they're struggling; and seniors

those who can pay are like those around this table -- houses paid for, chn gone, take private exercise

we'll be saving $13.86 so that those who use the facilities will be paying

F&A cmte, there's a feeling of abandonment

arts, culture, social services, volunteer time hockey soccer, etc

can't support

cd hv swallowed the 2.95% and in coming months another system

fin sust has overtaken the other streams in this cmnty

Sop: many facets, seen many in my time; this is not the end of the world

statement we're going to look at the way; improving from 2008 forward

zero, is incredible

have not made any comment about the philosophy to Srs' Ctr, roughly 60-40

we don't want anybody staying at home

work volunteers done over years, strongest point that makes this cmnty tick

we might have been at 2.43

a benefit to the taxpayers in this cmnty that we introduce this bring to zero; we may find we can't be zero next year

at least done the exercise, when in history we'd do it; this is the year

to say we're going to somebody in jeopardy is wrong

MS: v unfair to suggest some mbrs of ccl support motherhood and apple pie and rec and cultural progs and the rest of us are just savages that want to strip essence of the cmnty way; this is not correct

Cclr F did just vote for it, for 2.43, seemed to find some sort of consensus

to suggest a draconian plot for zero from F&A Cmte, nothing to do with them; the 2.95% budget wch I supported was not going to pass

What Cclr Sop said was true; I'm prepared to give everybody benefit of doubt all here to serve best interests of public

not going to take a back seat or imply I don't value any citizens any less than any other

RD: we will be meeting with Srs' Bd next Wednesday

CAO: still can modify where put the $200K shift

will be coming fwd with changes to bylaw, Ccl's opp for input

imp to understand the diff shifts we're taking

RD: this budget zero increase is to everyone's advantage; isn't that true

CAO: rhetorical

RD: wd like to see if more for srs

at this point zero makes sense, skeptical Mon night

reduce taxes, reduce services

probably a good idea make it clear we're concerned about efficiency

taxes consistent with good services

make it clear we've been concerned all along

run well, efficient; all you have to do is compare our zero with other Ms

Mayor: since 1999, the systematic process of ensuring infra

...our Dir/Engg brought to our attn...  Almondel bridge brought to attn...

on the social side.....

going to look at Parks next week, separate seniors

I have a question wrt srs' rate; don't want to charge too much, don't want too little

KP: recovery rate is about what the others are; about 60% recovery rate now, based on mbrshp fees

Mayor: fees? how keep pace?

KP: three or four years

no mbrship fees in any other; a number of free things happen at SAC

CAO: we're going, after budget passed, look at

looking at what services shd be subsidized and wch user pay

target; work toward repairing 2008 budget

Mayor: ev who serves on Ccl puts aside his personal and

we have to stick together

SECOND READING passes

JF: I can't make third reading

THIRD READING PASSES with JF opposed

4.  PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS -- none  //  5.  ADJOURNMENT

Exceptional ppl: D Paul from the Squamish Nations Reserve and J Nightingale of Vancouver Aquarium

[Slide Presentation]

240K ppl without power; av interruption 2.5hr

1.56 indiv; 3.9; .57

during storms 13.78 hrs, customer 2.8

causes in WV 2002 - 2006: equipment failure, accidents, etc

Sop: had opp to go up and see emerg response

great job you did in incredible circumstances; first marks for incredible job

JF: echo Cclr Sop's comments; also remarkable no injuries

notice you brought ppl from Alberta, overtime; pretty terrific cost to BC Hydro

going to be reflected in increases

Ans: have a storm contingency fund; unprecedented amount

not looking at increases this year, pay down over years

JF: grateful

Ans: costs will be included in report out shortly

Mayor: get calls about response and about burying lines; cutting down trees straightforward solution

do you have a process?

Greg, Vegetation Mgr: Pardon my back; I'm going to sit down and have slides

Forester; Vegetation Maintenance Program [slides]

trees within striking distance of power lines

Power to Lions Bay from both HBay and Squamish

New Edge Trees along Hwy 99 failed during the windstorm

slide of Summit Crescent; backyard easements, huge trees; have to be helicoptered in

trees with poor trunk taper -- heavy snow or even rain

structurally flawed trees fall in winter storms

co-dominant stems with included bark (growing apart, branches on outside so weighted and fall over)

good root system but when saturated with water, give way

insufficient soil; hemlock loves to grow on nurse logs

Summit Drive area, huge hemlock and fir trees wedged in driveways end up falling over, roots can't grow

crown decline, tree stressed, so investigate

excessive cone crop

Mayor: remind you we have about ten minutes for delegation

Ans: here's another; big leaf maple has poor attachments

phototropic, growing over power lines

Regreening program for Ms: replace smaller under line, plant larger in parks

Sop: in a hydro ROW is it illegal to put garden refuse

Ans: belongs to M, so M guidelines

other: makes difficult for our crews to go in; used as dumping and makes it diff

Sop: we do have laws in M?

Ans: distribution system

KP: dumping; fire hazards as well

we started cleaning up when the storm started and finishing up last week -- full time, five days a week

Mayor: is the consenting prog going well?

Ans: yes

Mayor: let us know anything we can help with

Mayor: Welcome, and looks like many

PG: I come with fan club;...... into reading glasses now

past eight months; Sept 7 began the first season as fully operational

work far from over at the ribbon-cutting; our focus is entirely with running of the building, biz, etc

reassessing vision, setting goals

40K in past months; 90 productions ... 80% av attendance

Movies at the Meek brought film back to WV

work with Vanc Recital, Cap College, etc

Colin Angus with WVML; WinterSong; Student activities;....

Fund-raising campaign generated almost $58K; search for financial stability; confident fund-raising will increase

been reviewing efficiencies to deliver quality; going through process of renewal

[Named Board; now have three cmtes and named mbrs; XX Cmte, Devt Cmte, soon to start Financial Cmte]

in excess of $400K; nearly 40K ppl; impact on biz cmnty with thousands of hungry and thirsty patrons

Mayor: wonderful news -- questions or compliments?

Sop: met with you, board, and desire to make it a success, in right mode

difficult to keep it going but you have moved forward

your mbrs want this to flourish; you've brought renewal

RD: Sat morning my wife and I took our granddaughters to BOOKtopia at the Kay Meek Ctr, sponsored by Library encouraging them to leave

The Reluctant Dragon written 1898 but puppet show wd fit today -- nearly full with 500 there!

Library active and KMC a cmnty ctr where ppl go, and now nationally, internationally known artists

the two theatres hv bn enormously successful

becoming what we all hoped it wd be, a ctr of excellence

JF: you shd all, I know I am, be proud

a few ppl worked hard and wanted it to work; some thought it wd fail, I thought it wd work as some of those who have continued to be on the Board

see continued success; wonderful and I wish you'd stop showing things on Monday nights

JC: are you on contract?

[yes]

JC: congratulations

Mayor: this is cmnty's contribution, dollars

I went to three sold-out events in one week; we're thrilled; still get lists from Liz Byrd of what to do

you have brought the Sch Bd and Ccl together; app role; support arts

Mayor: now moving to Reports, Cclr Smith

MS: quick update on Childcare WG

has been meeting, couple of times; diverse group

re Cedardale -- as you know given notice to vacate

reviewed options for Cedardale; really none in WV; not two school rooms in Schools

space in NV and NV Sch Bd mtg tomorrow, maybe a lease for them; also possibility at Capilano Elem School; WV Sch Dist has extended to July 15

when first brought to Ccl's attn, I asked why spaces are not now av b/c about 1200 attending WV schools from outside WV

wanted to hear biz case re outside at expense of our chn

not till now, mtg next week

Mayor: first report from WG straight to Ccl; looking forward

JC: Birthday.  Cclr Sop, today is the first day of my old age; halfway yesterday

had intended cake and candles, but I forgot!

attended centennial of NV City -- quite a crowd, 3-4K ppl

quite the lady

followed the JP Fell Pipe Band -- out under a tent in cold chairs, well done couple of hours

Mayor: thank you for coming as well

Sop: the ccl mtg was not going to go by without mentioning Cclr Clark, a certain point in his life

cake; and each year sneaks up on us, forget

JC: supposed to be $20

Sop: congratulations on your birthday yesterday, Cclr Clark

Mayor: CEC met this morning; want update public that notifications of all mtgs is on the website, and I think in the case of Cclr Clark's cmte, well into 2008

been there,

but not that readily available; you have to know to look up CEC, so staff are working on that

[CNV] Centennial exciting yesterday; DNV going to dedicate something for CNV.

RD: Sunday to duck splash also with granddaughters, sponsored by Rotary

helicopter dropped thousands

retrieved 12 -- prizes; one dog went out and came back without a duck; another punctured the duck and fell down [sank]

LG Hospital and Search and Rescue; once again charities benefited from Rotary

JF: you wonder what cclrs do on weekends -- go to the dogs or the ducks

RD: don't forget the dragon!

5.  PUBLIC QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS -- none

6.  ADJOURNMENT    Meeting progresses into Special Regular Council Meeting

6 -- add'l info from Mgr of Cmnty Planning re ED and 742 Keith Rd; and 7

Correspondence List add'ns......  unsecured debris above Dufferin Ave

3.  RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MAY 14, 2007 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING (none)

JC: with pleasure I move be adopted

Sop: second

Sop:...All constructions start at 7:30am, Sundays and holidays exempt?

RB/DoAS: pickup and delivery prohibited on stat holidays and Sunday

Sop: at least one day a week; pleased to see

DoAS: reduced on Saturdays

JC: does this exclude moving vans? can you get a mattress delivered?

DoAS: this is general, as far as I know don't deliver on Sundays; usu Mon through Sat

JC: moving vans?

DoAS: ?

JC: first of July is Sunday this year, can you move in?

DoAS: stat holiday not permitted

Mayor: not intended to [re moving?]

DoAS: intended to regulate regular basis, a one-off dealt with accordingly