WVM2008-17
Ccl NOTES May 26, PH 28
AGENDA Jun 2
Calendar to Jun 18
by
Carolanne Reynolds, Editor
www.WestVan.org
.........is this an on-and-off spring
or a sputtering summer start?
IN THIS ISSUE:
MAIN ITEMS at June 2nd Ccl Mtg: Tree and Drainage issues
next to Martin Corp Lands (Caulfeild Plateau); Adoption of Animal
Control and Bylaw Notice Enforcement Bylaws; Correspondence: many
letters re Hugo Ray Park including one from lawyer for
residents (has DWV still not provided the FOI material?); Spirit
Trail
= Vive le Canada (designation of Cdn of National
Historic Significance and Hockey); from the EDITOR'S DESK (Uplift vs
CBs); ANIMALWATCH (leopards); UPDATES (Sprinkling Restrictions; WVPD);
ARTWATCH (Michael Kluckner); WEBWATCH (bridal model
photo)
= CALENDAR to June 18th (check for changes and
updates)
= Ccl NOTES May 26th: Proposed Ambleside Bylaw;
Animal Control and Licence Bylaw (DOGS); Cmnty Grants WG
recommendations to Ccl ($100K+); Resoln re FOI for UBCM;
Correspondence (including letter 29 re Calculation of Uplift for
Rodgers Crk Plan and letter 32 to Finance Cmte re Budget Process);
Reports ($200K+ from prov for Childcare spaces; Finance Cmte's
three goals wrt BUDGET); and PQP (hope Grant
recommendations to Ccl, over $100K, will be in public in future as
it was in past but was not done this year; plea for Amb Town
Ctr 'upzoning' to be fair and equitable to all property owners, not
more for those with large holdings; FOI shd not have cost as
discouragement for legitimate enquiries; resignation from Finance
Cmte but will not be replaced)
= Ccl NOTES May 28th Public Hearing (Collingwood) on
parking lot for Wentworth campus
= Ccl AGENDA June 2nd
= THEATREWATCH (Bard; Tuesdays/Morrie; Where the Blood
Mixes); NEWSWATCH (Zimbabwe, Status of Afghanistan, Wandering
Palestinians); LANGUAGE (Spelling Bee); Haiku for May; Quotations,
etc
=== Vive le Canada ===
hockey since it's Stanley Cup time.....
~~~ May 22, 2008 - Montreal
~~~ Prime Minister Stephen Harper today
announced James George Aylwin Creighton, the "father"
of organized ice hockey, will be honoured as a Canadian of National
Historic Significance. "The evolution of hockey, ...
an incremental process, and James Creighton deserves recognition
because he formalized the game, bringing it indoors, establishing
fixed teams (originally nine players a side) and helping create the
first written code, from which today's rulebook is descended,"
said Prime Minister Harper. Creighton is
credited with organizing the world's first indoor hockey game
at Montreal's famed Victoria Skating Rink on March 3, 1875.
...
"I want to thank the Historic Sites and
Monuments Board of Canada for approving the designation of James
George Aylwin Creighton as a historic person," said the Prime
Minister....
Canada's system of national historic sites now
includes 937 national historic sites, 611 national historic persons,
and 391 national historic events. The majority of national historic
sites are owned and operated by private individuals, not-for-profit
groups, and corporations. Parks Canada protects and presents 157
of these special places on behalf of Canadians.
.... from the EDITOR'S DESK
Running late so will limit myself to clarifying Uplift (Windfall,
Planning Gain) and Cmnty Benefits (CBs) since some still seem to
conflate the two. Uplift is the difference between present
zoning of the land and proposed zoning. Then Ccl, one hopes
after consultation with the public, decides what
proportion/projects/amenities are appropriate for the cmnty.
IOW, Ccl is increasing the value of the land for the owner and in
exchange (increased density for example will increase use of
infrastructure, recreation, etc) some compensation/benefits shd accrue
to the cmnty. All the profit from the buildings goes to owners.
It's zoning that is the cmnty's to grant.
=== ANIMALWATCH
===
* The rare Amur leopard a few months ago and now adorably
cute just on BBC news:
*
Leopard spotted in house Page last updated at 07:27 GMT, Saturday, 31 May 2008 08:27
UK
A 20-day-old leopard cub has
wandered into a house in eastern Orissa, India after being abandoned
by its mother.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7428955.stm
* Earlier, a Zoo shows off snow leopard cubs:
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/zoo-shows-off-snow-leopard-cubs/3247834278
=== UPDATES
===
>
Water Sprinkling Restrictions On Again
Every year from
June 1 to September 30, the GVRD implements restrictions to lawn sprinkling. These
measures help us manage our water use through the summer in order
to avoid even further restrictions during the drier
months.
Water sprinkling regulations:
Sprinkling
allowed between 4 - 9am or 7 - 10pm
Even-numbered addresses: Wed & Sat;
Odd-numbered addresses: Thurs & Sun
Hand watering and
sprinkling of vegetable gardens, shrubs, and flowers are all
unrestricted. Violations carry fines of up to $100. West Vancouver
enforces sprinkling regulations under the Waterworks
Bylaw.
> Aiming to be the Safest Community
-- Friday, May 23,
2008
"The
West Vancouver Police Department is committed to keeping the peace and
making the community the safest jurisdiction in Canada by 2011,
instilling a new level of confidence and security for
residents."
--
WVPD Strategic Plan 2007
So, how is our
police department serving the community better than it was two years
ago?
From 1999 to 2005,
the department lost more than one-third of its officers. Some retired,
but most went to other police departments. We were in a cycle of
providing experienced officers and promising new recruits to everyone
else -- a significant loss, and cost, to us.
Getting and
keeping good people has everything to do with internal and external
confidence in our police force, and in mitigating risk. The police
board at the time recognized this exodus as a major issue, sought to
understand the underlying reasons, and produced the department's first
strategic plan.
Read the
entire NS News Article (Canada.com)
=== ARTWATCH
=== Michael Kluckner
* ~ 7:30pm ~ Tuesday May
27 ~
Illustrated lecture: Len Norris &
the Vancouver Imagination; Vancouver Public Library,
downtown.
* Michael and Christine moved to Australia about a year
ago, but Michael is here for a visit -- lectures, awards, etc.
Michael is a watercolourist extraordinaire and I met him through his
interest in heritage (he's done several books on Vancouver). Of
course we went to his talk at the VPL (as my enotice said). Oh,
those Norris cartoons of WV -- Amblesnide and Tiddly Cove, West
Vancouverites with one leg shorter than the other! Here's a link
is to all his talks while he's here:
http://www.michaelkluckner.com/indlecturepopup.html Local
ones still to come:
* ~ 7:30 ~ Thursday June 5
~
Cedar Series Lecture, VanDusen Gardens,
Vancouver: illustrated lecture on Vancouver Remembered,
focusing on the west side of the city and the historical coincidences
that have preserved iconic spaces like the VanDusen Gardens. See
the VanDusen calendar
* ~ 10:30am ~ Tuesday June
10
Illustrated lecture on Vancouver
Remembered at Brock House, Vancouver.
=== WEBWATCH
===
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7423503.stm
Unfortunately it's not possible to give you the URL for the one
picture I thought was interesting. When you click on this you'll
get seven numbered photos, pls click on No. 4 (model wearing a bridal
gown, unusual composition).
===
CALENDAR to June 18th === [at Hall
unless otherwise noted; pls confirm to make sure no
changes]
Remember the Farmers' Markets: Dundarave on
Saturdays and Ambleside on Sundays.....
PS
ADDITIONS to WVM16 (missing from original)
+++ SILK PURSE +++ (1570
Argyle) www.silkpurse.ca
May 27 - June 8,
2008
--
"Kubilai Khan in Clay"
Opening
Reception: TUESDAY May 27th from 6 - 8pm
Kubilai Khan's court was a
mix of Byzantine officials, mystical Chinese dragons, nomadic
fortunetellers, veiled Persian ladies, Syrian jugglers, and masked
Venetian merchants. Masks have long been used as cultural and
spiritual expressions in many lands. Nobility and commoners alike wore
masks during the Carnival season to conceal their identities. The
masks served to equalize everyone and alleviate class tensions. We
celebrate the 'mask' with an exhibition by leading BC Clay Artists & Cap College
Alumni.
Free
Clay Mask Demo: Saturday, May 31st from 1- 2 pm -- Everyone Welcome
== Sat May 31st ==
~ noon - 5pm ~ North Van Cmnty Arts Ccl: Art in the
Garden Tour (by donation; call 988 6844); also on Sunday June
1st.
== Sun June 1st == [led by
David Cook, LPPS]
Nature/geology walk to celebrate the beginning of
Environment Week.
A one- to two-hour walk along the trails of Lighthouse
Park. Meet in the parking lot at 11:00am.
This will be followed by a walk in Caulfeild Park to look
at the ecology and geology there, meeting in the Lighthouse
Park parking lot at 1pm or at the Caulfeild Park anchor at
1:30pm.
~ NOON on CBC RADIO TWO 105.7FM, "Inside the Music",
the WV opera The Dream Healer will be one discussed (topic,
Madness in Opera), repeated 8pm on Radio One, 690AM.
THEN:
== Tues June 3rd == ~ 4:30 pm ~ Fin Cmte moved to
June 5
== Wed June 4th ==
~ 5pm ~ West Vancouver Chamber of
Commerce AGM at Partners
Centre (1846 Marine)
Election of
new D
irectors
to the Board for the term of 2008-2009. The Nomination Form for
Directors of the Board will be available in May newsletter on-line
at
www.westvanchamber.com and at office. Please RSVP on-line or phone 926 6614;
pls reserve your spot for this
event.
== Thurs June 5th == ~ 5pm ~
Finance Cmte
== June 5th - 7th == Thurs - Sat
== LECTURES
Featuring Toronto Star's architectural and urban
critic, Christopher Hume
o June 5 - 7 -- Urban Design Studio II, Synthesis of Urban Form;
Venue: SFU Surrey
http://www.sfu.ca/city/course5popup.htm
If you missed a lecture, there
are LECTURE RECORDINGS:
SFU City Program videos:
http://www.sfu.ca/city/city_pgm_videos.htm and audio-recorded lectures
here: http://www.sfu.ca/city/city_pgm_mp3.htm
*** Saturday
June 7th * Spirit of Green * Community Day ***
*** Parade in morning;
afternoon activities in Ambleside Park ***
== Sun June 8th
== ~ 11am - 5pm ~ Oceans
Day at Whytecliff Park -- learn, eat, listen!
~ All day in Ambleside Park,
Rich Hansen Wheels in Motion
== Tues June 10th ==
~ 2:30pm ~ Cmnty Engagement Cmte [CEC], to be
confirmed
~ 7pm ~ Cmnty Grants/Social Services WG
== Wed June 11th
==
~ 10am ~ Cmnty Engagement Cmte [moved to June
10th]
~ 5pm ~ Finance Cmte (moved to June 18th)
~ 6:30pm ~ Child Care Services WG at Fulton
House
~ 6pm Cocktails, 7pm Dinner ~ WV Chamber of
Commerce
PRESIDENT'S DINNER,
Auction, & Biz Excellence Awards at CGCC (ph 926 6614)
~ 7pm ~ Cmnty Sport
WG
~ 7pm ~ WV Citizens for Good Govt, Srs' Ctr (election
of directors; M election planning)
ALSO -- Public Forum with Dr. Dahlia Wasfi: "The
Cost of War: Human, Environment, Economic"
Doors: 7pm, starts: 7:30pm; at Canadian Memorial
United Church, 1806 W. 15th Ave. at Burrard
Dahlia Wasfi was born in 1971 and spent her early
childhood in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, until she returned with her family
to the United States in 1977. Dr. Wasfi graduated from Swarthmore
College in 1993 with a B.A. in Biology, and in 1997 graduated from the
University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. In February/March
of 2004, after years of separation, Wasfi visited Iraq to see her
family in Basrah and Baghdad. She journeyed to Iraq again for a
three-month visit in 2006. Based on her experiences, she is speaking
out against the negative impact of the U.S. invasion on the Iraqi
people and the need to end the occupation. For more info see:
http://www.globalexchange.org/getInvolved/speakers/124.htmlDahlia
== Thurs June 12th == ~ 4:30pm
~ Design Review Cmte [replaces June 26th mtg that's been
cancelled]
== Sun June 15th ==
Dundarave Porsche Show and Ride -- All Day in Dundarave
== Tues June 17th == ~ 6:30pm
~ Cmnty Dialogue (Housing) WG
== Wed June 18th ==
~ 4:30pm ~ Finance Cmte Mtg (check to see if in
Library)
~ 7pm ~ Library Bd at Library and Bd of Variance at M
Hall
+++ WV MEMORIAL LIBRARY
+++ see www.westvanlib.org
Gallery at the Library
presents... June 2 to July
31
Photographs: Recent work by Rob Will, Laura Clark, Michelle
Demers, and Roman Kralovic.
+ Tues June 3
-- Best Weekend
Getaways from Vancouver at 7:30pm
Join
writer-broadcaster Jack Christie for the launch of his new book: Best Weekend Getaways
from Vancouver.
Jack will offer many road-tested tips for summer adventuring
throughout South-Western B.C. Bring your travel questions and uncover
some hidden gems, unique outings, and heavenly places to rest your
head.
+ Thurs June 5 -- Movie Night at
6pm: Into the
Wild. Based on
the book by Jon Krakauer.
+ Saturday 7 -- West Vancouver Community
Day
In the
"Spirit of Green", our teen volunteers will walk, scooter,
or skateboard in the parade. Afterwards, join us in Ambleside Park for
Storytimes at 12:30 and 1:30pm.
+++ FERRY BUILDING GALLERY
+++
*** THE WEST VAN GRAD SHOW 2008 -- May 27 to June
8
A Mixed Media Exhibition featuring the artworks of graduating
students of Collingwood School, Mulgrave, Rockridge, Sentinel
Secondary School, & WV Secondary School
*** "Gone To
the Birds" ~ 6pm ~ Saturday June 7
A dinner and unique art
auction adventure to benefit the FBG at an exclusive private
residence on Eagle Island, WV. The auction will include art from
the best artists in Vancouver, as well as experiences, dinners,
cruises, jewellery, and much more=8A.. The intention of this
event is to raise funds for the ongoing support of exhibitions at the
gallery. The funds assist in maintaining the gallery's standard of
excellence in the service, events, and opportunities it provides to
artists, both emerging and established, and to the community of the
North Shore. Only 100 tickets will be
sold. For information please call Mary at
925.7290
West Vancouver
Cultural Services; Tel: 925 7290 Fax: 925
5913;
gallery@westvancouver.ca
*** The Art of Nick Bantock, the friendly pocket
version; prints and original paintings; June 10 - 15
+++ SILK PURSE (1570 Argyle)
www.silkpurse.ca
May 27 - June 8,
2008
--
"Kubilai Khan in Clay" [See above, beginning of
Calendar, for details]
+++ WV MUSEUM
+++ Visit:
http://www.westvanmuseum.blogspot.com/
+++ Don't forget to check out
www.kaymeekcentre.com +++
See
review of Where the Blood Mixes in THEATREWATCH below
========== CCL MTG NOTES May
26 ===============
CALL TO ORDER
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Added to Correspondence
Mayor: before delegations wd like to welcome new CAO, Grant
McRadu
introduced in the Youth Ccl mtg, has come to us from Delta School
Bd
Grant: struck by energy in this cmnty; thank you for letting me
come here; attended lots of mtgs
one of the things I enjoyed with Delta Sch Bd, was its singular
focus on student achievement, how does this improve student
achievement
one thing pleased with and I honoured when working with the Sch
Bd is that prior to [our] making any recommendations to the board or
to the cmnty, we always stopped and asked ourselves how does this
improve student achievement
and one of the things I want to bring to this cmnty, in
particularly with staff, is that prior to [our] making any
recommendations to Ccl or the cmnty, is that as staff we always stop
and ask ourselves the questions, how does this bylaw or this
recommendation improve the quality of life for our citizens here in
WV; and that's what I'm going to continue to speak with with
staff.
I've thoroughly enjoyed time I've been here
what struck me is the entrepreneurial initiative, innovation;
will commit to communicate, and to communicate as often as I can to
cmnty, staff, and Ccl
do what I can to earn trust of cmnty
as CAO truly believe in cmnty partnerships; look forward to
transparency and accountability; certainly heard that from Finance
Cmte; looking forward to working with them and with staff
Mayor: tyvm and welcome
DELEGATIONS
Mayor: re zero-impact family homes
PLock, with slides: now widely understood we're releasing ancient
underground CO2 through burning fossil fuels; assume we have long time
to fix it
ancient CO2 stored in... but rarely consider these deposits were
laid down over 65M years
65 years, less surprising ice caps melting
have improved 17% cut but increased over 30%
suspend use of CO2
fortunately simple and robust solutions are at hand.
budget for keeping water out of house, other in; heat out, heat
in; economy at large; reduce antagonisms
net meters av from BC Hydro
114K detached houses built in BC in 2007 -- will produce 82% of
demand
reduce by simply installing 5 kilowatts; voltaic panels
growing BC Hydro's capacity will cost at least $5B
benefits if reduced transmission corridors; electric cars (grid
buffering); only used supper hour, gas turbines
changes (listed); slide of Suggested Changes
Corporate/staff will present resistance; political, effective
action will win the day
Sop: did you make your presentation to prov govt?
PL: no, starting small
Sop: take your thoughts but shd start hammering on those doors
first.
Mayor: following on that theme, more macro
LS [slides]: vision and goals of greenbelt in Sea-to-Sky
context
nonprofit founded in 1999; ten principles
WV to D'Arcy; concerned might be unchecked growth; prevent
sprawl
Sq Regional District final review right now; gap analysis
study
event in Brackendale and Pemberton this year; defined growth
boundary and outside pristine
believe WV well-positioned, nbrhd plans; seen assessments of
areas
11 new conservancies were named by prov, 44,800ha; existing prov
parks also (over 300Kha)
2009 implementation strategies; Timeline to 2010; Mapping; media
attention
wd like to co-host a public workshop this fall with WV;
Partners and Funders
Sop: terrific idea; did you analyze from a watershed perspective?
stand of green we want to strive to protect; need strict rules to
preserve
we've sought out as much info as we can, hope prov look at this
area
see those green mountains when out in a boat, nothing more
beautiful in world
RD: think Smart Growth has done a good job; that hwy shd hv bn
declared a scenic hwy as done in California
Ccl have heard me gripe about that interchange at HBay; Smart
Growth can't stop that but whatever you can do with prov; devprs are
swooping in
not a scenic hwy, think it will be a mess but shd start now
beautiful area right near sea; unfortunately being turned into an
LA-style freeway
Mayor: thank you for your work; spent last week in Victoria....
biggest issue is integration; will report on that later; will be
looking at our approach to climate change; make sense for you to come
back; things changing quickly and want to be part of that
Perhaps Cclr V you can refer this to the Planning Dept
[DONE; CARRIED]
REPORTS
No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4543, 2008 and Zoning Bylaw
No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4544, 2008
Mike MacCallum: note you're having a public mtg on the 18th of
June so probably best said then
I'm with [strata ccl/bldg in area]; we are concerned about the
proposed devts not included in the bylaw changes
three major sites that may become highrises; in add'n to that,
one that is on a special basis, the Masonic Hall wch has a provision
to become five storeys rather than the three to four within the Amb
Plan.
you've spent a lot of money on the waterfront and to put further
highrises along the waterfront, a mistake; wd like to see the three to
four [storeys] as now
Mayor: there is no proposal for any highrises; so far the trend
is village scale
it's important for cmnty to know this is not about highrises in
the cmnty
Mike MacCallum: the bylaw itself is v devpr-friendly; included
highrises, of necessity pat of that; by exclusion you're allowing
someone to come along whereas if you take a positive approach, new
zoning, makes it more difficult to do. You've allowed Masonic
Hall five storeys and that's a mistake.
Sokol: Ccl directed staff to prepare these bylaws; culmination of
three/four years of work, probably more; 25 or so public mtgs; 13 mtgs
of Amb T Ctr WG in 2007 alone
balanced approach; recognizing future and existing scale of Amb T
Ctr; while much of attention on zoning; some on FAR, then design b/c
of OCP require Devt Permits; ways of influencing devt; Staff plan to
make full presentation Jun 18
Mayor: Cclr F
Sop: question?
Mayor: have during debate
JF: read motion
Sop: point of information; has been a lot of work on this; if
that is sufficient consultation, what limitations does it put on
public re PH as to what is being heard; you can go through years of
deliberations then to here; are you saying no need for more
consultation?
Sokol: LGA lists [gave applicable portions]
Mayor: what we're saying that our lengthy process will be enough
consultation then go to PH
no idea what will come out of that
VV: wondering what consultation means; public asked lots of
questions and never answered
Marine westward, Bellevue eastward; lady said it was previous
plan; shd have seen...
when we say consult, do we not have to answer?
40 groups, do we need to answer? mtgs but not the answers; not
properly consulted if we haven't answered; wd like something that
gives much better answers; wd like them before going to PH
JF: quite happy with sorts of consultation taken place to date'
at the conclusion of PH, Ccl will have opp to provide answers, staff
bring them back to Ccl; anxious to hear what public has to say; have
been revised slightly and am anxious to hear what public has to say
and what my colleagues have to say.
MOVED THAT the opportunities provided for consultation on a
proposed Ambleside Official Community Plan amendment, with persons,
organizations and authorities as outlined in the May 16, 2008 report
from the Associate Director of Major Projects, be endorsed as
sufficient consultation for the purposes of Section 879 of the Local
Government Act.
[CARRIED]
JF: MOVED THAT OCP Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No.
4543, 2008, as attached to the report from the Associate Director of
Major Projects dated May 16, be introduced and read a first time in
short form.
VV: ...... main items, we had a traffic study
done by Bunt & Associates and said shd do this first
ppl tend not to want to go around the back and look for a parking
spot
if we org parking better, from lane at back, we'd double
desire was to have more ppl on the street.... prob seems to
be ppl don't find ........
thought traffic wd be addressed first and now we have this
without the parking
improvements but can't understand what rationale to do first;
think premature
MS: in this instance I happen to agree with Cclr V
when first elected I read it over summer; traffic study good and
we haven't implemented any
hear has to be incorporated in; makes sense; question why we have
to wait three, four years
... like left-turn lane
I do agree that when we have a report we pay for, I don't
think we shd wait, we shd make the changes
Mayor: Acting Dir/Engg
RFung: forgive me, I can follow up with B Dozzi and E Barth but
we have done bulges so not as if we haven't been doing anything;
improvements down 15th, along Bellevue
Mayor: acting is what we must do
I read a report today from 1995 needing to improve entrance;
putting this to a PH, numerous things, given cmnty something to think
about; the last thing we shd be saying is that it's premature, it's
long overdue; we're the group tackling; modest proposal, questions
around major sites and can be WGs
to wait wasting time ..... 11 zones in Amb and this
gets it down to two
[CARRIED]
JF moved: THAT OCP Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No.
4543, 2008 [be] considered in conjunction with the District's most
recent financial plan and the regional waste management plan.
CARRIED
{for the linguistically curious.....
I chose to put BE rather than [sic] wch indicates printing a
mistake, not an introduced one.
You may ask what was there before. Well, it was HAS
BEEN.
There's a verb sequence problem. As you see in the rest
of the motions, it is correctly stated:
RECOMMENDED THAT X BE APPROVED, BE INTRODUCED, BE
REQUESTED
You will readily see that it is not correct to say:
recommended that it has been.
It's not clear what was meant (and query to Hall last week,
and a few weeks ago when the same incorrect construction appeared,
were not graced with a reply). I asked if the intent was
that:
it be considered in conjunction [now] OR it will have
been considered in conjunction [already done].
You see I guessed that the recommendation was that it be
considered in conjunction, ie at the same time. B/c the DWV
agenda had that the recommendation 'has been' considered, I wondered
if what was desired was that the consideration of the plans will
already have been done.
if I ever find out, I'll let you know.}
JF moved: Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No.
4544, 2008, as attached to the report from the Associate Director of
Major Projects dated May 16, 2008, be introduced and read a first time
in short form.
Sop: why?
Sokol: go together; gross issues; OCP DP guidelines, allow more
active role
Sop: take some examples -- along 19th; why do we have to alter
down to two? lose control over entire area; I think amendment bylaws
shdn't go through
push for amenities -- like we're going to solve ... with
amenities .... as we've been going, a solid way
this amenity biz; remember child care ... one was a
childcare site it's ........
then we get down to sq ftg; we're looking for a village concept,
developing one piece at a time .... fall under devt process
just two zones? we've had a system working v well.
I don't think that part shd go to PH
Mayor: opp for housing in 1800block; need for
housing
piecemeal approach has got us what we've got; empty bldgs,
almost derelict look
read what recommending -- no bldg shall exceed three storeys,
37ft
modest proposal; biz cmnty says doesn't go far enough but cmnty
doesn't want to go further...
Sop: 19th and Marine, seven units? ... handsome bldg; these
have bn done ...
wants to do some housing; we don't have that many buildings; most
don't have sq ftg to have that upzoning, uplifting
B of Mtl, ... did a nice job, looks terrific; wasn't tied up for
years; done right; don't think we've done enough study on this
....
JF: wrt Cclr Sop's concerns, Ccl has asked staff to come forward
with these bylaws in written form so that public and Ccl can debate;
let's hear what public has to say the have the Ccl debate
VV: agree with Cclr Sop; if we don't proceed, we are not
preventing any owner from coming forward; not preventing any
innovative idea, architecture
as to hearing what ppl believe we've had letters and ADRA
....
don't want ... south side, most two storeys; so good
opinion from the public already
don't think we're going to learn much....
nothing stops us, not even common sense; wd like to defer this
long enough to discuss parking; .... haven't got ducks in a row, got
wrong duck in front
Mayor: are you moving deferral?
VV: if support? wd it just be the zoning bylaw?
traffic and parking support
Sop: second
Mayor: Ms Scholes, debate possible?
SSch: yes
MS: will vote against deferral but want debate
{various comments by cclrs}
Mayor: I'm certainly opposed deferral; this is Ccls opp to act
and make a decision
DEFERRAL DEFEATED
Mayor: return to speaking order
JC: this evening moving forward after about five years of
discussion; greatly involved public each stage of the way
idea of this is moving it into public realm; I know there are
aspects here some not happy with, great, we'd ike to hear what they
are; can't get to that stage without these steps
what Cclr V and Sop taking about is what got us here in the first
place; study everything to death and do nothing ...
MS: I certainly support revitalizing Amb
grew up as a boy here, when Amb was the heart of the cmnty and
PkRNorth was a strip mall and PkRSouth didn't exist..... village
full of small restaurants and cafes; we had movie theatres, bowling
alleys and pool halls; there was a real life to the village; sad, life
has been squeezed out; desperately needs to be revitalized; how
do we do that?
all for Cmnty Plan and new devt but have some concerns about the
zoning bylaw; how do we know what rezoning will look like; scratch my
head, rezone until see it
wrt childcare space, might be a project devpr prepared to commit
to childcare space; how do that if a fixed formula for public
benefit?
{hm, do hope it isn't a fixed formula; must read!
hope for fairness and accuracy in the calculations; it is
going to be complicated but I really think we all want revitalization
and most of us want to keep the village character as well.
will have to be some massaging........}
a lot of questions; don't have any objection to going to
PH
in the zoning bylaw to my horror I read that 'excluded use' is
'liquor primary use' for the service of liquor as opposed to food is
the primary focus of the biz.
why on earth we wd preclude ourselves from having wine bars,
and Irish pubs, bistros, and jazz bars and the like in Amb when we all
admit the place is like a tomb when you walk through there
scratch my head in disbelief -- prev ccls shd be held
accountable for this; this puritanical attitude has squeezed the life
out of what shd be the heart of our cmnty; voted down everything that
we cd possibly be put in there that anybody wd go in and use in the
evening; totally opposed to that aspect of this zoning bylaw; might
vote go to PH, but if this clause is in I won't be supporting
it
Mayor: opp for excluding uses?
Sokol: Ccl can do at anytime
{erp! bzzt; not so -- see later}
RD: shd go ahead; been at this for five years
zoning based on argument can outline what you want ... make
decisions on a site-specific basis
shd look at further in the PH; one has to remember this is a DP
area so we are going to be looking carefully... look at each
site specifically, roll out ...
Ccl is going to be looking carefully, let public speak; look at
rezoning amendments, what we like and what we don't
Sop: my hat's off to citizens, WG, all that time, that's not
where I'm coming from
what I've seen over past 12 years there have been some well-done
handsome bldgs
small, we can ease process for -- why are we altering the
zoning? done well. There is excitement from landowners;
recog we want something done and well done
we'll be behind concentrated owner, something of value for cmnty,
breezeways,......; don't need to alter zoning to do it; go to PH same
process as now..... Plans can go ahead
VV: interested in what Cclr Sop had to say; but want to hear ...
MS said ... growing up here
ice cream ... think ... wd bring back the old days
in 1976 the most typical resident of WV was 17 and now a
72-yr-old
we can rejuvenate -- Amb will never feel 17 again!!
{alas, neither will most of us........}
JF: WG changes wd be to provide some predictability; have sat
through some rezonings and can say unpredictable ... owners ...
attempt ... huge amt of time and money and ... ppl who want to
come
always divisive, and is on Ccl as well
one of the reasons to put this zoning in place is to allow ...
everyone some understanding what the likely outcome might be; can
still modify, change, Ccl ask
but whole objective was to try to motivate some change, bring
about a better shopping ctr, to meet in to shop in; if we don't change
anything, ...... will be minimal; at some point carpet will be rolled
up on Marine Dr and ppl go elsewhere and WV won't have a town Ctr;
having some predictability is a benefit
Sokol: ask if this does move forward to PH, perhaps provide staff
with questions and concerns so can answer in our presentations
I had commented you can change the uses -- I misspoke,
that is not a change you can make without going through the PH
process again (advertising, etc)
Mayor: so change of permitted uses has to be made now at first
reading?
Sokol: yes
MS: my wish to remove this scandalous excluded use for liquor as
a primary use, but an equally important point is this staff report
says CB says can be changed after the PH, is that not the case?
Sokol: the CB is something we specifically asked solicitor b/c
concerned cdn't change; can change as we go through PH
process
there's a list of things you can and cannot change, use was
one you cannot, density is another thing
MS: then I move an amendment, p79, we remove every excluded
use between massage parlour and escort service
{laughter}
Mayor: you're not serious
MS: I'm totally serious!
Mayor: every one?
MS: free enterprise! if someone wants to open an amusement
arcade, wd you not allow to consider that?
Mayor: I'm not going to support a casino in Amb no matter how
much I want revitalization.
MS: everything has to be individually approved, so wdn't be
Mayor: easier to have casino on excluded list
MS: same WV Ccl nanny society had for 20 to 30 years, big brother
knows best instead of opening it up to the free enterprise cmnty some
of us wd like to see here; however will only ask that the liquor part
be removed
Mayor: this is what's going out to public
CARRIED
JF moved: OCP Amendment Bylaw No. 4543, 2008 and Zoning Bylaw No.
2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4544, 2008 be presented at a Public
Hearing on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. in the Municipal Hall
Council Chamber.
MS: was going to vote against; why PH on a Wed night?
... discriminates against working ppl ...
I carefully check Cmnty Calendar; made sure here for 2nd, 9th,
and 16th so planned a trip accordingly, now find I'm not going to be
here through no fault of my own
Mayor: from my point of view June 16 wd hv bn ideal; from point
of view of Planning Dept, or notification, possible Ms Scholes?
SSch: just barely
Mayor: Cclr Smith,
MS: be pleased
JF: I'd be quite happy to rescind my original motion to change
the date
{exchanges about speaking and who had hand up...}
Sop: amend no 5 to have words zoning xxx be deleted
Mayor: contrary to intent of motion so if motion fails come back;
not considered an amendment
SSch: correct
Sop: but you gotta read what's happening there you asked in 4 for
the zoning bylaw to go forth and now in 5 you're asking for both the
OCP bylaw and zoning bylaw to go to a PH
Mayor: that's right, that's the motion, to change the PH to
16th
SSch: friendly amendment and she's rescinded
JC: I believe 18th chosen to allow full time including if going
over to another night; if 16th, shd leave 18th if more
SSch: at end of 16th cd adjourn to a future date, and that cd be
18th.
[CARRIED with SOP saying OPPOSED]
JF: notification of the Public Hearing on "Official Community
Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4543, 2008 and Zoning
Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4544, 2008" be provided to
owners and occupiers of lots shown on Attachment A to the report dated
May 16, 2008 from the Associate Director of Major Projects.
CARRIED
Mayor: Oh, I'm sorry; I have one mbr of the public wishing to
speak.
Mike MacCallum: does that change date of PH?
Mayor: yes, to 16th; maybe you can come now.
{I think he said no}
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report dated May 12, 2008 from the
Manager of Bylaw & Licencing [sic] Services regarding Animal
Control and Licence Bylaw No. 4545, 2008 be received for
information.
RECOMMENDED: Bylaw be given 1st, 2nd, and 3rd readings.
RECOMMENDED: Bylaw Notice Enforcement Amendment Bylaw be given
1st, 2nd and 3rd readings.
Paul Hundal: on table item; only managed to read it today;
everyone had a chance to read what I sent in today. My concern
is about the environmental definition; Doug Leavers said yes, gave
comfort, but added items
Do my walking in off-leash; run into three ppl and have dogs;
remote areas; dogs can run and socialize; away from congested
areas
exclude them and ....... except for walking trails...
as I explained in my letter, lead to destination points....
stay on trail; generally good reflection of cmnty, don't have
problems others have
but when you put in ... what happens when I get to Jack Pine
Point -- get to bluffs, sit down, dog sits down, and it's a beautiful
area, been doing it for 40 years
to suggest this is an environmental ... is an extreme view
with SPEC for 18 years
going too far ... to suggest dogs going to stir up sediment,
heavy rain more
Mayor: for this in Upper Lands areas ...
PH: Nelson Canyon Park a key access part; looks as if off the
prohibited list but ...
RB: we have a staff mbr who can answer questions, Liz Holitzki is
here; may have been some confusion; ask her to clarify
LH: no changes to Lighthouse Park; wrt in Nelson Crk canyon, were
always prohibited but now allowed in trails; nine in new bylaw on and
off leash
old bylaw, dogs not in creeks, now in new bylaw permitted
dogs still prohibited in oldgrowth park, has to do with
groundnesting birds
Mayor: tyvm, good clarification
BOTH CARRIED
RECOMMENDED: THAT the Arts and Culture Working Group
recommendations for Arts and Culture Grants, be approved as
follows:
Ambleside
Orchestra
$
500
British Columbia Boys'
Choir
2,000
Chor Leoni Men's Choir
750
Deep Cove Chamber Soloists
Society 750
Hollyburn Heritage
Society 750
JP Fell Pipe
Band
500
Laudate Singers Society
500
North Shore Film
Festival
2,250
North Shore Heritage
[Preservation] Society
500
North Shore Light Opera
Society
2,000
Theatre West
Van
3,250
O'Shihan Cultural
Organization
500
Pacific Baroque
Orchestra
1,500
Pandora's Vox
2,650
Presentation House Cultural
Society/Theatre
2,000
Sinfonia Orchestra of the North
Shore
3,000
Summer Pops
Orchestra
1,250
Vetta Chamber
Music
500
West Vancouver Adult Community
Band Association
500
West Vancouver Adult Concert
Band
600
West Vancouver Historical
Society
1,000
West Vancouver Youth
Band
5,000
{Editor's Note: there was no total given for this, but to save you the
time, it's $32,250.}
JF moved as printed and presented; Sop
seconded -- CARRIED
RECOMMENDED: THAT the Social Services Grants as
recommended by the Community Grants/Social Services Review Working
Group (CGSSWG) be approved as follows:
1.1 Commencing a [three-year] funding cycle
(2008-2010): Annual Grant ($)
a) Specialized Social
Services
BC Paraplegic
Association $
500
Canadian Hard of Hearing
Association 600
Lions Gate
Hospice
1,000
NS Disability Society - Adults
at Risk 1,000
NS Women's
Centre
1,500
NS Stroke Recovery
Centre
1,300
Red Cross Respect
Ed
700
Subtotal
$ 6,600
b) Family Support Social
Services
Family Services of the North
Shore $
14,500
Living Systems
500
NS Community Resources
Society
12,000
NS Restorative Justice
5,000
NS Multicultural
Society
3,000
West Vancouver Family Place
Society
4,000
Subtotal
$ 39,000
c) Seniors Support Social
Services
Capilano Community Services
Society $ 1,300
Lionsview Seniors Planning
Society
2,000
Lionsview Seniors Planning Society
- Seniors' Coalition
1,300
NS Meals on Wheels
Society
1,500
NS Volunteers for
Seniors
3,500
NS Keep Well
Society
2,000
NS Neighbourhood House - Seniors
Peer Support
1,300
Subtotal
$ 12,900
1.2 In 3rd year of a three-year funding
cycle (2006-2008): Annual Grant
Autism Society of
BC
1,500
Canadian Mental Health
Association
2,000
Crisis Intervention & Suicide
Prevention Centre of BC
1,000
Friend 2 Friend Social Learning
Society
750
Harvest Project
2,500
Lookout North Shore Emergency Aid
Shelter
3,000
NS Association for the Mentally
Handicapped
1,000
NS Crisis Services
Society
10,500
NS Disability Resource
Centre
1,400
NS Project Society for Low Income
and Handicapped
5,000
NS Schizophrenia Society, North
Shore Branch
1,500
West Coast Alternatives
Society
5,000
Subtotal
$ 35,150
Total Social Services Grants for 2008
$93,650
2008 Approved Budget $82,500
--- 2008 Shortfall
($11,150)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the Community Services
Grants as recommended by the Community Grants/Social Services Review
Working Group be approved as follows:
2.1 Commencing a three-year funding
cycle (2008-2010): Annual Grant
Coho Society -- Operating Grant;
-- Bus Transportation $ 5,000 + 1,250
NS Lifeboat
Society 2,500
NS Safety
Council
1,000
525 Pathfinder Squadron (Air Cadet
League of Canada)
900
Subtotal
$ 10,650
2.2 In 3rd year of a [three-year]
funding cycle (2006-2008): Annual Grant
Third West Vancouver Scout Group -
Property Tax
$
500
Subtotal
$ 500
Total Community Services Grants For
2008
$11,150
2008 Approved Budget $27,900
--- 2008 Surplus
$16,750
{Erica Crilly had just come to listen}
Sop: asked here; this process has been thoroughly gone
through
thank you Erica for all your hard work; will see you in
presentation of Social Services WG, coming forth soon; comment on
philosophy and presentation
Mayor: you're coming wrt overview in a few weeks
Erica: yes
Mayor: plsd funds for justice
don't want to press charges; suits our cmnty; sch dist
Sop: b/c of Erica's work; when WG report comes forward will see
......
MOTION
1. The shortfall of $11,150 in the
Social Services Grants Budget is offset by the surplus of $16,750 in
the Community Services Grants Budget.
2. The amount of $5,600
(being the balance remaining between the shortfall of $11,150 in the
Social Services Grants Budget offset by the surplus of $16,750 in the
Community Services Grants Budget), be retained for any additional and
deserving requests over the balance of 2008.
CARRIED
RECOMMENDED: received for information
RF gave some background: ...and Al lynch is here
Mayor: Mr Bates
Bates: how will unfold a 50% diversion rate to a 70% diversion
rate, one of highest in NAmerica
originally a July timeframe, date may slip
second round of consultation, late summer more likely the
fall
staff raised overall affordability; overall householder imp Ccl
when more advanced
Mayor: as vice chair of the waste cmte; we face signif
challenges in the region
had plan started with acquisition of Ashcroft ranch; no long
tenable and fact we will have to face; proposals that came to us the
only thing you can do in the time required ship garbage to
Washington State and not likely you'll be able to do any of the
landfilling proposals in front of us.
has put a lot of pressure on MetroV; accept some of the
challenges
last week in Victoria a report came out, integrating liquid and
solid waste together; capturing energy; lots of questions about that;
came out of Gaining Ground Conference (GGC); can see where prov is
coming from; interested in recapturing energy, I wd say
tackle that our responsibility; things in blue box that shdn't
be there, shd be taking back to store and producer shd be responsible
for b/c taxpayer pays for what's in blue box
our responsibility or of whoever who created that waste in
first place? shd be doing a better job of recycling; how tackle moving
from 52% recovery rate right now to 70% is significant
things shdn't be in waste stream at all; organic and wood
waste
don't really have facility for getting them out of waste
stream; biggest question of all is cost
our staff, MetroV staff and cmtes looking at scope and scale of
infrastructure projects coming our way; only a matter of time no
longer able to operate a sewage treatment plant that only has primary
treatment
Victoria a bit ahead of us as you know; working together; prov
govt v interested in working with us
was asked to speak on this; MetroV has to step up and do a better
job of working on this, has to step up; achieve funding, goals of
sustainability, ... look at waste as a resource and not excess
hope lies with our ability as a region on the NSh, working
together; clear that's our intent
JF: when I attended with you a month ago in Richmond, plan for
solid waste; found it v interesting; seemed few options, seemed
affordable but am concerned with costs involved, public education
program vast
my question of you is has there been discussion how funded;
assess prop value, perhaps paying larger share; wondered if any other
solution brought up
Mayor: reason they're concerned with their costs as well, sewage
treatment cost
Bates: based on a user fee, per household; indications present
tipping fee won't support new initiatives; tipping fee is part of what
we pay in terms of user fees, probably about half of solid waste
utility; likely to rise, don't think there's much we can do about
that
JF: as long as user-pay and not general funding of GVRD
Sop: what does it say about us if we ship our garbage to another
country? MetroV shd have stepped up years ago
Mr Bates, Mr Fung, make Victoria step up and start funding;
absolutely incredible 2009 and we haven't made and prepared; we've
talked about it here; we've got to stop talking and do something
Mayor: agree, have a mtg with Minister Penner this week, to try
to understand where he's coming from; want to thank RFung and EBarth,
good relationship with Victoria, but have been v challenged by
MetroV. They're not as good at collaborating as they shd be;
they're not as forceful around polluter-pay as they shd be b/c the
property taxpayer shd not be paying for the boom in the construction
industry, and the fact it has foreshortened our own landfill;
numerous examples
we need to support one another, support Min of Env and Min of
Cmnty Services on [their visions]
VV: we spoke of NSh, primary only; filtering out of solids?
all of sewage from WV going out into the sea
RF: the effluent is chlorinated before discharge but your point
is essentially correct
Mayor: ... much of long term plan
10. North Shore Designate for
E-Comm Board of Directors 2008-09
Mayor Goldsmith-Jones designated as the North Shore
representative
DONE
11. Resolution regarding
Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act for 2008 UBCM
Annual Convention
MS: will move but will add two words: to provide "the
option"; not our intent to prevent; just to discourage
fishing expeditions, so left it so wd be an option. I move
THAT the following resolution be forwarded to the Union of
British Columbia Municipalities (UBCM) for consideration at the 2008
Annual Convention:
WHEREAS the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act
allows for only limited recovery for request processing costs;
AND WHEREAS many local governments continue to bear unreasonable
costs for processing Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy
Act requests;
AND WHEREAS the lack of cost recovery for local government
resources required to process these requests impacts their budgets and
reduces service levels in respect of other areas of local government
service to the public;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Province be requested
to consider amending the Freedom of Information and Protection of
Privacy Act to provide THE OPTION for
recovery of actual request processing costs.
The reason I add that is I don't think it is our intent to
penalize
Mayor: the option, is that what you added?
MS: 'the option' b/c it's not our intent, I don't think, to
unfairly penalize a legitimate request we have from a mbr of the
public; that's just the cost of doing biz, our staff have to respond.
I think what this motion is trying to get at is the mischief-makers
who tie up countless hours of staff time on fishing expeditions that
are significant costs to the taxpayer, so I left it so we wd have
the motion
Sop (guess he's thinking of an amendment): Madam Mayor,
friendly?
Mayor: Well, it's his motion.
MS: it's v friendly
Mayor: he's making it, that's his prerogative; is there a
seconder?
JC: second
Mayor: thank you; discussion?
Sop: does it alter the motion?
Mayor: Well, he's putting the motion on the floor in the first
instance. If we had a change subsequently then we wd hv
discussed if it was friendly or not, but this is his motion, so that's
fine. If you're concerned about those words, you can make a
motion to take them out.
Sop: just process
VV: last sentence about provision of recovery, doesn't say
from whom -- from person who requested info? from prov? doesn't
necessarily have to come from the mbr of the public asking for the
information
Mayor: that's an excellent point b/c it's their legislation
and it puts significant costs on us.
SSch: under existing legislation, the prov has established a
fee schedule for request processing wch does provide for cost recovery
of some components, but not all. This motion wd request the prov
to consider increasing the recovery for processing costs and those
costs are borne by the applicant when they apply, in some cases but
not all, and in the cases where the applicant does not bear the cost,
the M does bear all the costs
Mayor: for the applicant
MOTION CARRIES
Mayor: to go to UBCM where it will be debated by mayors and
councillors of the province
12. Changes to Council
Meeting Schedule (File: 0120-01)
RD: Speaking of the UBCM, three of us going to FCM
{fyi: RD, JF, JC; and Federation of Canadian Municipalities
will be meeting in Quebec City this year.}
so move
1. the June 2, 2008 Regular Council meeting be
cancelled;
2. the June 9 Council Workshop be changed to a
Special Regular meeting to be held at 7pm in the M Hall Ccl Chamber;
and
3. a Public Hearing regarding OCP Bylaw No.
4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4543, 2008 and Zoning Bylaw No. 2200,
1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4544, 2008 be scheduled for Wednesday,
June 18, -- I think that'll be Monday June 16
--
Mayor: that's right
RD continues: at 7pm in the Municipal Hall Council Chamber.
MS: I refer to my earlier comments, I consider the Cmnty
Calendar as my Bible in scheduling my life and in there it was
clearly stated there's a regular ccl mtg on June 2nd so I see no
reason why we wdn't carry on with the ppl's biz on June 2nd. I
guess we cd have a separate debate about the efficacy of attending a
convention in Quebec City. I noticed that last year when in
Calgary or Winnipeg or something, I don't think anybody went. It
wd seem to me it's all about a trip to Quebec City so I think we shd
carry on. As long as we have a quorum, why defer it?
Mayor: think we shd separate these
wrt June 2nd knowing three mbrs of ccl wd not be here, it didn't
seem appropriate to schedule something someone's been working on for
years. We cd hold mtg June 2nd for adopting bylaws and minor
housekeeping things
JC: I will be back on June 2nd
Mayor: so two won't be here
MS: trying to think; don't know how I can tactfully bring this
up; considerable expense to chase all the way across the country to
Quebec City and if in fact mbrs of Ccl feel that's a prudent and
proper and necessary thing to do; my reaction wd be think they shd pay
for it themselves; a third of our Ccl stipend is tax-free for our
expenses; won't call them boondoggles, can't think of another word
right now; if you paid for them yourself, you'd better evaluate the
value received for the money.
As a new cclr, went to UBCM in Victoria, paid for it myself;
airfare, hotel, meals and cost $1000; looked back if value for money
-- on two days, basically consisted of going to cocktail parties and
eating canapes, paid for by the govt, the taxpayers of BC -- I
concluded better things to do with my time and money. I'm
opposed to these trips. It's obvious last year, unfriendly
environment, nobody went
if so worthwhile, why didn't anybody go last year when in Calgary
or Winnipeg? wd anybody go if in Sudbury instead of Quebec City?
Sop: Calgary is unfriendly?
Mayor: Ms Scholes, believe Ccl policy, UBCM and FCM considered
standard if cclrs wish to go, just in case Cclr Smith is wishing to
revisit that policy, wch in that case is fine.
SSch: yes; general policy, traditionally attended by cclrs;
tradition to attend, don't know if specific policy but policy for
conference attendance
VV: for those mbrs of public who might be quite baffled by this,
from my point of view, I have been to one each of these conferences,
b/c they are actually an exercise in democracy where we actually add
up to something b/c we're joined together with other Ms.
In case of the UBCM, all Ms send their reps as voting
delegates; there is an agenda, things we want the provincial govt to
do; they take seriously, Premier comes at the end and tells us wch of
things they're going to spend money on and pay attention to.
It's the one time in our existence that I with others from
other Ms can be asking something from the province that they actually
say yes, we're going to focus on these issues.
Homelessness was the one in the occasion I was attending, they
announced $80M to tackle the problem. We're there as voting
delegates as participants in the democratic process.
I don't know how Cclr missed those. I missed the canapes
but perhaps Cclr Smith missed the voting sessions, so that's what it's
all about.
{much laughter}
RD: this surprises me; I agree that all seven mbrs shd not go;
I've been on ccl 16 years and I think I've gone to three FCMs.
There are a lot of sessions, learn a great deal about various issues
that concern Ms all over Canada; you go and you work, you go to mtgs,
exchange ideas, part of what we do as cclrs, always gone to BC fedn
and national fedn mtgs, not every time but we go, it's part of our
job. Expenses are paid but anything beyond that we pay
ourselves.
It's important we go to Quebec, this is a country that has known
many divisions in the past.
In my case I am French-speaking, I've visited Quebec before and
lived in France
I can assure you there's a personal dimension that's very helpful
and useful; Quebecois are always amazed somebody from BC can express
themselves in French; creates a lot of goodwill; you can exchange
ideas in their language and not ours; the main reason we go to these
mtgs is not social, is professional; our way is paid but only our
basic expenses
in future, if we want to change this, retreat to an isolationist
policy, where we exist and live only for WV, indifferent to what goes
on in prov or country, we can do so but it's perfectly legitimate for
us to attend these conferences, in fact it's useful and enriching in a
variety of ways.
For me, I'm a Pacific Rimmer, I'm not that familiar with the
eastern part of Canada; helpful for me to learn more about Canadians
from other parts of the country, and more about the Ms and what
they're doing in other parts of the country
learning what others doing; haven't gone to many, only three I've
gone to in 16 years found v useful and v helpful. Just can't
imagine we'd be denied the opp to attend mtgs in our own field
MS: don't want to bore you with this; honestly think unassailable
logic
think better conference if ppl attending paid for it themselves;
person putting on conference wd have to make sure pretty meaty agenda,
otherwise ppl paying for it wdn't come; troubles me taking a third of
our stipend is tax-free; clearly looks like double-dipping, taking a
third free and then submitting expenses; makes no sense to me.
Then again I often make no sense, I admit that.
Mayor: as it sits right now, is a prerogative of Ccl
a number of ppl who've said to me are you going to be in Quebec
City b/c a lot of other mtgs happening; I'm not going; it's where a
lot of ppl are in the same place at one time and you can get an awful
lot done b/c of thatl I chose to go to Gaining Ground (GGC) last
week instead b/c directly related to what we're working on in WV; not
just working with other elected officials, it's working with staff in
ministries; has everything to do with our ability to succeed -- that's
the commitment I made to the cmnty.
wrt June 2nd; Ccl Smith is right; must have been an oversight, we
usually plan b/c ppl go
RD: normally we don't meet on the fifth; so argument was let's
meet on the last Monday but not the first b/c a lot of ppl will be
away.
{reasoning doesn't quite work however b/c the Cmnty Calendar
has no mtg on the fourth and fifth Mondays! so that wd mean mtgs only
on the 9th and 16th during the whole month!)
Mayor: last Monday is the night before Canada Day, and that's
going to be a four-day weekend in WV, sure
RD: certainly we can withdraw it; not my motion, just my name,
not behind it particularly
Mayor: shall we divide these? Separate ideas. Wd you
like to make the motion?
RD: I've already made that motion
Mayor: yes
First one is then, that we cancel the June 2nd mtg, all in
favour?
[Bill and Rod vote for the motion, and Mike, Pam, John,
Jeanie, and Vivian vote against]
Mayor: opposed? Motion CARRIES, SO THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE
A JUNE 2nd Ccl mtg
{Well, Dear Readers, not a peep from anyone but clearly the
motion to cancel the June 2nd mtg FAILED, wch is why the Mayor said
there'd be a June 2nd mtg right after saying the motion had
carried.}
We've already looked at the types of items that will be on there;
and they just allow us to keep moving through the legislative agenda;
it's mostly adoption of bylaws.
Item No 2: workshop June 9 changed to public ccl mtg. Item
No 3: June 16 Public Hearing date
BOTH CARRY
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
13. Consent Agenda Items -
Reports and Correspondence
REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA
(Report dated April 10) DVP Application received for
consideration on June 9, 2008.
15. Appointment to Community
Centre Board of Directors
Jess
Ketchum confirmed as an appointee to provide expertise in
communications.
16. Appointment to North
Shore Advisory Committee on Disability Issues of Robert Norcross for
the term January 1, 2008 to December 31, 2009 approved.
[DONE]
CORRESPONDENCE LIST FOR CONSENT AGENDA
17. Correspondence List
[complete list in previous issue]
Referred to Director of Planning, Lands & Permits for
consideration and response.
VV: interesting letter from mbr of public; last paragraph about
Amb Town Ctr and writer talks about traffic studies done on behalf of
devprs, goes on and think speaking wrt Rodgers Crk; think we shd hire
and have devpr pay rather than have devpr hire. Valid. We shd
hire. Thought a v gd technical point. In future we shd implement
that.
Mayor: congratulate Raymond Fung, for national awards/grants;
an honour; speaks to his expertise
[Applause]
Referred to Director of Parks and Community Services for
consideration and response.
VV: from residents still quite upset; thought come to an end;
grant applied for not provided; deal we had between Cricket and Field
Hockey not really in existence any more; now Cricket not part of it,
funds not collected, so obligation of Ccl to spend $1M and Hockey
didn't raise $4M so doesn't work any more. Thought that ended
previous arrangement and we'd start from scratch again. Doesn't
seem to be the case b/c we have letters from residents that this still
seems to be going on. I'm puzzled. Why are we continuing
as if we have an arrangement that alive and in effect and
ongoing.
Mayor: don't know anything about deals or arrangements but I
think we're expecting a ccl report June 9th and Ccl can go in whatever
direction it wishes.
KPike: That's correct. It is a changed society now, it has
made a proposal and that will be coming back to Ccl June 9;
essentially half the project: one field project rather than two.
The letter you see here will be included as an attachment to that
report, and the proposal from the Hugo Ray Society will also be
attached to that report.
VV: We will then defer questions until June 9
Mayor: that wd make sense.
JF: re plastic grocery bags in BBy; request we support MetroV
work for unified policy; I'd like to propose that we do so
Mayor: Okay; easiest is for me to take that back to the Waste
Cmte. I don't know what Ccl's view on plastic bags is.
GVRD Waste Cmte has been around this many many times; our belief is
social pressure cheap and effective, but to focus on plastic bags
instead of other major things, and not as substantive as some of the
major, major, issues we face
OTOH, what can we do about social pressure and education
JF: it's one piece of the puzzle
Mayor: but it's the smallest piece we cd fine; that's the main
concern of the Waste Cmte, is that we get distracted with something
that isn't as crucial as some of the significant issues we face, but
we've never discussed as a Ccl, so now's the time
Sop: agree through education but the plastic bags sit around
in that landfill for years
Mayor: less than 1% of what's in the landfill
Sop: who told you that?
Mayor: I'm on the Waste Cmte; 30% of what's in our household
waste is organic. What is the percentage of woodwaste in the
waste stream?
Sop: Well, what are all these bags you see thrown into these bins
I see picked up? is that not plastic?
so concerned yet we don't educate ourselves well enough to go
ahead -- do we really have to put all this garbage in a bag that's
going to go into the landfill
Mayor: I think--
Sop: --it's the mentality of it that I find difficult to
understand
{but Bill, if you think of what's in the plastic bag, you will
quickly realize that the thin outside layer of plastic of the bag is a
v small part of the garbage!}
and the philosophy of what we're going to do about these little
things
the way I see many ppl shopping now, have a cloth bag, a reusable
bag, a paper bag; if we're going to make some change in the world we
gotta start somewhere
Mayor: and ppl are; the question is, does the govt get involved
with a big banning program, or do we see what's happening already in
retail, wch is that the stores themselves are taking responsibility,
and we're putting social pressure on one another to do the right
thing
JF: all I'm suggesting is supporting this to go forward to MetroV
and we request a response
Mayor: motion seconded; happy to take that forward
RD: the bags are a problem but everything is wrapped in plastic,
that's the problem; it's true that the bags themselves are probably
about 1%
demolition of buildings/houses accounts for 30-40% in
landfill, and that's something that has to be controlled
In WV we shd charge a much higher demolition fee, wd help to
protect heritage houses but it wd also landfills; too much demolishing
and not enough renovating goes on but getting back to plastic.
The problem is much deeper than plastic bags, everything you buy, take
home, is plastic and that's where percentage, where it gets scary;
much harder to control, industry wd have to find another way to wrap
up goods and that wd probably be hard
Mayor: that's the challenge; call the question refer to
MetroV?
Motion CARRIES
{UPDATE: China banned plastic bags June 1st; ~3B bags a day!
but concern also the oil used to make the plastic.}
Referred to Director of Planning, Lands and Permits for
consideration and response.
VV: Item 29 and 33 both on subject of Uplift.
To start with Item 33 is the repeat of a position sent to us
previously on a simple matter that the public wd like to see two
appraisals done by an appraiser retained by the M, not the devpr,
although we will pass the cost to the devpr: an appraisal of the land
under current zoning and a separate one under the upzoned land and
compare the two as the starting point for working out Cmnty
Benefits
{To clarify: Really, it's to determine the Uplift and then the
CBs are a portion of the Uplift.}
We don't seem to do that, and I think the public wd like to see
it.
In terms of No 29, an extraordinary kind of standard has been
set in calculating CBs. This has been done by a mbr of the
public. The calculations are done; I think it is a definitive
standard set and wd like to have this method laid out here adopted by
our staff, and I don't know how I cd go about having that
done.
Sokol: On this particular item, staff is reviewing this letter
and will have a response prepared for both the person who sent it and
Ccl, once staff has had a chance to review it and comment on it, we cd
move forward with perhaps considering it.
Mayor: and the notion of an appraisal cd be included in
that?
VV: Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor; just thought this effort that
was made by this mbr of the public did set a new standard worthy of
adoption by us and I wd like to see us take it up and improve the way
we deal with this subject.
Mayor: Let's get the staff report first; that's in
motion.
{Dear Readers, fyi, HERE'S THE INTRO/SUMMARY OF THE LETTER
dated 2008 May 15:
Dear Mayor and Council:
re Community Benefits with respect to the Rodgers
Creek Development
Summary
The staff reports dated April 9th and
April 28th suggest that the community benefits of $16 million offered
in return for the increased density being requested are appropriate
based on staff's estimated value of the increased density of
$16,463,000. This letter points out some inconsistencies and omissions
from these reports and suggests that a more accurate estimate of the
value of the increased density is on the order of $135 million and
therefore the offered community benefits are insignificant in view of
the magnitude of the density increase being proposed and the size of
the development (around one billion dollars). There is no
reason this development cannot be clustered, varied, and
environmentally sensitive within the density permitted under the
existing zoning. The many negative impacts of increased density are
well documented and the paltry compensation being proposed is wholly
insufficient to offset them.
Therefore if this development is to be
considered by Council, Council must protect the interests of the
community by:
1. obtaining a proper independent
professional appraisal of the incremental land value associated with
the "Option B" upzoning (starting with an accurate calculation of
the permitted density under the current ownership and zoning);
and
2. rejecting the rezoning unless the
proposal, including a vastly improved benefits package, meets the test
of being in the best interests of the community. Even if a specific
requirement for community benefits is ultra vires, Council
has the right, indeed the obligation, to reject any rezoning and
development proposal that, taken in its entirety, does not serve the
public interest. The current proposal with such minimal community
benefits is certainly not in the public interest and therefore must be
rejected by Council.
{The above just gives you an overview of
the principles involved, and the main figures,
calculations.}
Referred to Director of Finance for consideration and
response.
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Here's the letter: Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:55:21 -0700 // To:
mayorandcouncil@westvancouver.ca
re Budget 2009 Process / Finance
Cmte
It is appreciated that Council has established an expanded
Finance Committee. While disappointing that steps recommended,
anticipated, and offered were not taken for the review of the 2008
Budget earlier this year, it was heartening to hear at the Finance
Cmte's Apr 23rd meeting that work on the 2009 budget will start
soon.
The Finance Cmte, I was told, did not accept information and
clarification sent to provide a record of what was said (and not in
the minutes); correspondence wd be a more appropriate vehicle so this
letter is to Mayor and Council copied to the Finance Cmte. At
the end of the April 23rd mtg, there
wasn't much time so it wd have been virtually impossible for staff to
put it all down in the minutes, possibly the same for the May 7th
mtg. Perhaps some questions are more appropriately answered by
Council for those not done during the meeting. This is a
combination of questions, answered and unanswered, as well as
background information.
The good news is that the Finance Cmte is already starting on
a workplan for 2009 and the 2009 budget and are so keen they're going
to meet more than once a month. A timeline will be produced soon
and we look forward to their deliberations and
recommendations.
A Questions, Answers, Comments from the April 23rd
meeting.
1
It was stated that the Finance and Audit Cmte had
asked for a list of the land owned by the Municipality and didn't get
it. ADRA asked for it at our AGM in February, I asked for it
several times since then, and during the budget discussions, and now I
have a copy so if the cmte hasn't one or can't get one, happy to
provide a copy. This is important b/c many feel that the Wetmore
property, wch will appreciate in value, shd not be sold to help pay
for a structure (the new Cmnty Ctr) wch will depreciate.
Selling property cd be justified to buy other property (such as Argyle
waterfront), but carefully selected.
Some years ago when there was a ~$40M Ten-Year
Capital Plan "set in stone", when I asked where the rest of
the money was coming from, the answer was "street ends".
Probably most wd not disagree with that, they cd be viewed as
expendable. WV may now be in the position that that has to be
considered -- after all the present Five-Year Plan I saw was
~$40M. There's been debate about how to pay for the new
Cmnty Ctr, a large portion of that.
2
In addressing the budget, obviously revenue
sources are looked at, not just cuts. I'm not part of the muffin
mania but for example, rather than cut the muffin fund, get local
restaurants/caterers to supply the goodies in rotation maybe for a
month at a time and as part of their advertising budget.
Sponsorships can be negotiated whether for small or large items as
appropriate. What's the saying? Watch the pennies and the
pounds will look after themselves?
3
Some years ago a mayor from the US told us about
how their Engg Dept got efficiencies. They put projects out for
bid, and both outside companies as well as staff cd bid. It
motivated staff to be efficient and boosted their morale doing things
better and cheaper than a private company -- quite a challenge!
Leads both outside and inside to try to be as lean and efficient as
possible to win the work.
4
Statements have been made that you shdn't
criticize unless you run for Ccl. IMHO, criticisms gain
credibility if improvements, solutions, other methods/ways are given.
You don't have to be on Ccl! And I'm sure mbrs of the Finance
Cmte will have many good ideas -- sensitive ppl might think proposed
changes are implicit criticism! Advisable, however, to grab as
many good ideas as we can get.
5
The Police Dept budget (monthly status -- and
footnoted if under or over) is presented at the board mtgs. No
reason the Hall's divisions can't. As for seasonal variations
(an excuse given for not preparing monthly reports), the amount shd
just be noted with reasons for under/overage as is done for the Police
Board currently. Or the budget instead of being divided into 12
equal amounts shd have the monthly variations indicated. It's
not a reason not to have a monthly status report.
6
Govts move slowly. Progress has been made.
The first budget I saw was in 1988 and it was only the capital
budget. When I asked about the Operating Budget I was told no
need to see it, it was already cut to the bone. The good
news is that we see more now.
Also, I advocated zero-based budgeting.
Eyes glazed over. I still think it shd be done from time to time
so hope this new Finance Cmte and Ccl will consider it. More
information was supplied with the 'binders' but then discontinued.
Although the Mayor said all that info was there but in different
formats and it wd be supplied, it hasn't. Let's hope that will
be done, in whatever manner, for the 2009 Budget -- and for the
Finance Cmte.
7
As a mbr commented, there are some gaps in the
Fire/Rescue WG's report. Don't know if the Finance Cmte will be
able to review it. First of all, if the Fire Chief cd be given
some flexibility in assignments, overtime wd be reduced. More
importantly, if a fourth man is required (but he's just there holding
the hose and doesn't have to be full trained as a firefighter), on
those few occasions attending a fire, a policeman on duty cd go to the
scene. Let's think outside the box (or the Union, as the case
may be).
8
If a dept is told to cut and doesn't want to,
often a most outrageous example will be given -- eg closing the Cmnty
Ctr on alternate days. This is an old tactic, not to be taken
seriously, but it is a reason for more information on manpower and
responsibilities. It amazes me that some can be bamboozled by
the blatant strategy of a spectacular cut clearly offered guaranteeing
it will not be made so no cut. Divisions have many aspects and
responsibilities, not just those that if cut affect primarily the
public and adversely.
9
Several times I have asked for the policy on
tendering, such as amounts for competitive bids, etc. The
circumstances and procedures are not clearcut and Ccl apparently is
not always informed. The Cmte may want to look at the fact that
large contracts have been awarded without a competitive bid and
without Ccl approval. Savings there, no doubt. This might
be resolved with a procedure that is followed and
monitored.
10
It was stated the 2008 Budget had to go up 3% b/c
that was the salary increase anticipated. As you know that's 80%
of the budget. Pls note that this certainly ties the hands of
the Municipality in negotiations since it is now public the funds are
there to pay for the raise. I suggested if accepting 3%, to use
that as an average and award between 1 and 5% depending on
performance, etc. That wd give Ccl some control over Division
Heads and introduce some accountability.
It might be interesting to have an explanation
for the average salary increase of 9%, three times the figure given,
in the IT Dept.
11
Staff evaluation was mentioned and a report on
how and when that's done shd be provided for information.
There's no doubt we have good staff, but a few years ago someone was
found guilty of embezzlement in the Finance Dept (before present
Finance Director's time).
12
The 2008 budget process was drawn out with
tidbits of information sporadically provided and some not till
adoption. The timeline presented to the Finance and Audit Cmte
last September was not followed. If a solid timeline cd be
set with material needed identified with assurances it will be
provided so that all the info is in the Cmte's and public's hands, it
wd make it easier and more likely the timeline will be
followed.
B Questions, Answers, Comments from the May 7th
meeting.
13
There may be more accountability if a CAO is on
contract rather than on staff. Our previous one was on contract,
before that on staff. My question as to wch for our new one was
not answered; unsure.
14
Comments were made that Community Surveys show
residents want to maintain services, some even to raise taxes to do
so. For the next Community Survey, as I've commented to Council
in the past, there shd be a range -- most will say yes but there ought
to be a limit otherwise it's taken as a blank cheque and a
justification to continue with current staffing and their salary
increases (across the board, without variation for performance as far
as we can tell).
15
A budget process timeline was handed out by
staff. One member asked the very two questions top of my list
when I saw it:
- A - Few will be focused on the budget in
November this year b/c of the election. Perhaps there cd be a
draft 2009 Budget and then candidates can give their views and public
have a choice on budget priorities.
- B - What were the causes for delays last year
and others, ie the same causes or different each year? It wd be
helpful to have a report on this along with how to prevent or avoid
delays this year.
Then
- C - Reference was made that some complained
about not getting all the information so perhaps, may I suggest, that
what was in the 'binder' be provided -- there were no complaints
then! In fact, some might have complained about how much
information -- but that's a better position to be in. They can't
say they've been stonewalled or feel deprived of material that's
public. It's the higher unassailable road.
- D - Evidently some budget expenditures escape
public scrutiny and maybe even Council debate, such as an extra FTE in
administration, traffic calming bulges (in spite of some residents who
wd be happy to cut them from the budget).
16
Councillors during the 2008 budget discussions
and a member at this cmte meeting asked about depreciation and
infrastructure. Whereas one might have envisioned that an
infrastructure fund cd have been built up so that the funds for
replacing the recreation centre wd have been there, it appears not
just that they weren't, but also the replacement will be much
grander. No Finance Dept can plan for the vagaries and
vicissitudes of various Councils' flights of fancy.
Thank you for your consideration of these
matters
Yours thoughtfully,
Carolanne Reynolds * Editor, West Van Matters; t 926 8649, f 484 5992;
www.westvan.org
cc: Finance Cmte
{AFAIK, not given to them}
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18. REPORTS from MAYOR/COUNCILLORS
MS: two quick items; pleased to report had our MLA Ralph
Sultan present a cheque for over $200K to the M for childcare
initiatives; two of our sites have been awarded funding for
creating childcare spaces: the Gordon House at 21st and Gordon, and
the Ambleside Adventure bldg adjacent to the Par 3 golf course.
We shd point out two mbrs of staff, Anne Mooi (Mr Pike's staff) and
Leanne Sexsmith (Mr Sokol's staff) were instrumental in submitting the
application, a tight timeline, and received a lot of support from all
of the depts of the M, construction drawings, financial proposals,
funding issues, etc. An example of how our staff can pull
together and effect signif funding from senior govts on a prog we shd
and did take advantage of. That's a real step forward for the
Childcare WG.
Second is our Finance Cmte; Cclr Clark and I are
the reps on that cmte; and we've had several mtgs, trying to get
grounding the workplan for 2008; assisted by Dir/Fin (and couple mbrs
of his staff), and at last mtg new CAO.
The motion passed at last mtg wanted to make Ccl aware of
where we outlined three goals for the cmte for our workplan for 2008.
One is to become GFOA compliant over the next two budget
cycles -- Mr Laing will be v pleased, I'm sure, to answer any
questions about what that entails. The second one is to
improve the accuracy and clarity of deptal budgets. The third is
to prepare a clear and concise plan for managing the devt of the
budget.
I think the intent of the Cmte is we want to really spiff up our
process so that we can go to the public earlier with complete and
detailed information about expenses, deptal expenses, financial plans,
capital plans, etc., and really encourage enlightened feedback from
the public rather than just comments about how many muffins we
buy. We really want to have a dialogue from the public where
they see the priorities for spending taxpayers' money.
Significant cost to the taxpayer to run this M, and we shd, you know,
there's some important decisions have to be made.
Cmte is determined to help Ccl and staff go to the public with
the best and most complete and clearest info we can. I wanted to
bring those three goals up for Ccl and if there are any serious issues
about where we're heading, I'm sure Cclr Clark wd be happy to answer
any questions anybody has.
JC to laughter: Well, thanks.
On Friday morning on your behalf I attended the board mtg of the
GVRD, MetroV; a three-hour agenda, most relative housekeeping issues,
juicy part was closed and in camera, can't tell you
WV resident Eleanor Sprye finished first in her category
in the Sun Run
This was the 19th year that Eleanor has participated in Sun
Run and finished first every year and this year she turned
93
{to surprised chuckles of admiration}
started in her early 70s; just bought new running shoes last
June; quite the lady.
Mayor: Mayors' golf tournament, first ever one; held on
Friday, huge success, raised in one day $125K for the NSh Lookout
Shelter; v well-supported by local businesses; I'd like to thank
the Washington Marine Group for being the title sponsor. They are the
largest employer on the NShore. Good to see them involved in
such a cmnty event. Former mayor Mark Sager and I from WV and
four mayors from the District of NV and Darrell Mussatto from
CNV.
{must mean former mayors!}
Good first start, think we will continue with that, and vary the
charities that benefit but we're trying to pick the ones that
sometimes have a tough time.
Youth Band held its big band gala on Saturday in the Ice Arena.
Speaking of the old days, like the old May Day Ball; packed with ppl
of all ages, doubled numbers from last year; Colin James, the famous
Cdn blues guitar player, was playing and supported by the huge
symphonic band; went all night; so much excitement and energy around
this new cmnty music hall. I met a lot of ppl who said we came
b/c our son played in the band 30 years ago; we came b/c, wow, Colin
James is now playing with our youth band. It's wonderful to have
had Diana Krall endorse them in the local paper, and they are just
getting better and better, and they appreciate Ccl's support
{Let's hope so. Since they were not successful in
raising the funds they said they wd for the special space in the new
Cmnty Ctr, $800K from the CB fund from the Ev Dr devt was allocated to
it.}
I spent half of the week last week at the Gaining Ground
Conference, as I mentioned, in an effort to pull together what our
Climate Change Strategy shd be. There's an awful lot we're doing
from the work on the foreshore to our water conservation strategy to
our Rodgers Crk devt plan. We'll be bringing a report to Ccl via
the Envmtal WG, thank you Cclr Soprovich. There's a lot of
respect for what WV is doing in the Min of Cmnty Services in
particular.
We are well on our way, I believe, to partnering with the prov,
and continuing with the success we've had with funding from the prov,
and with building a sustainable cmnty.
That was good; thank staff and Ccl for taking over while I was
gone.
19. PUBLIC QUESTIONS/COMMENTS
CR: Editor, West Van Matters
First of all, I wd like to -- I've just taken [some notes madly]
-- I wd like to welcome the new CAO. I think it's great we have
a new one, and he sounded great tonight.
Secondly, wrt the grants, they're all really worthy groups but
I hope that in future, the criteria will be made public, and the
mtgs will be held in public as they have been in the past
[previously].
{It wasn't this year.}
Thirdly, I thought it was v interesting that Cclr V brought up
about answers to the Amb Town Ctr [questions re proposals].
One of the questions I had, and I was hoping that wd be
considered when doing the bylaws -- and I spoke to, ah, it was brought
up at the ADRA mtg last March, March last year, and I brought it up
with the Mayor personally, and I can perhaps bring it up with the new
Dir/Planning b/c it's v difficult to explain here, but my main point
was that I wanted to see that any change that was made, whether a
blanket increase in FAR or whatever it is, wd be FAIR [equitable to
all], so that if someone's on a small lot and they can't
use it, that's not really fair. You're giving an advantage to
ppl who have large lots, who get the automatic [upzoning].
so I can explain it, just as long as it's fair, so that everybody
gets the same, and that the ppl who are on too small they can
maybe--
Mayor: --the PH wd be a good place for that
CR: yes, and cd transfer. But. What we'd have to do is
that
I wanted to say now from the point of view that staff shd be
aware that that's something that's going to be mentioned b/c it might
be something that they wd like to think about before it comes to the
PH, and wd hv an answer then. That's the reason I'm bringing it
up now.
The next thing is Freedom of Information.
I'm glad Cclr Smith brought in 'option' but I think perhaps it
also shd be for example I recall that the Hugo Ray Park Society,
residents or whatever, when they asked for under FOI, I only know from
what I heard in Ccl, so, I'm going by that; what they said was that
they had to pay $1000 or $1500 or whatever and all that they had
received was Ccl minutes and the NSNews report [article], both things
they had received were available through the public process
already, so this will need a lot of qualification b/c they
shdn't have to pay for things that are public, and I don't know
how you're going to work it out, but it does need massaging of some
sort. If it's the prov legislation, I think that's where the
responsibility shd lie for payment.
The next thing is
I noticed that there's been a resignation from the Finance
Cmte some time ago, and I wondered when that person wd be replaced
b/c I know that the Finance Cmte seems really keen as Cclr Smith
mentioned, to work on this and they probably need all the [...] mbrs
they can have to help them with so I'm wondering when that replacement
wd be made.
Mayor: either Cclr Smith or Mr Laing?
MS: Well, I think I briefly discussed this with yourself and Mr
Laing, and we decided as we were well into the year session on the
cmte, that either we wd not replace anybody b/c it really wdn't be
fair to somebody coming in b/c they'd be behind everybody else in
knowledge of the matters being discussed, so I think we have a really
good cmte with the mbrs we have there now, and they're representative
of the cmnty, and think the intent is we're just going to continue
with what we have.
Mayor: had six good candidates and varied the criteria from [five
to six], and now five, and then ironically one just cd not make the
time commitment and so now we're back down to five and that seems
fine
CR: but there might be somebody up to the challenge. I just
wondered, that's all.
Thank you very much.
Mayor: thank you. Motion to adjourn.
20. ADJOURNMENT
========== PUBLIC HEARING NOTES May
28 =========
1. CALL TO
ORDER
Mayor: Cclr Sop not present b/c of
conflict of interest, his grandchildren go to
Collingwood
2. PUBLIC
HEARING
ZONING BYLAW NO. 2200, 1968, AMENDMENT
BYLAW NO. 4550, 2008; and DEVT PERMIT APPLICATION NO.
08-012 (RE 2560 WENTWORTH AVENUE - COLLINGWOOD WENTWORTH
CAMPUS)
3.
PUBLIC MEETING -- DEVT
PERMIT APPLICATION
Applicant: Michael Rosen and
Associates for the owners.
Affected Lands: North Part of 2560
Wentworth; legally described as Lot 2, Block 4, District Lot 815, Plan
4565.
Purpose: To provide for an
additional parking lot for Collingwood School.
Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment:
To rezone the Subject Lands from RS7 Single Family Residential Zone
7 to PA1 Public Assembly Zone 1 (Schools), with a Section 219 covenant
restricting the use of the PA1 zoned area to a parking
lot.
Proposed Development Permit: To allow
site clearing, re-grading of the land and construction of the parking
lot.
4.
PUBLIC
HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING PROCEDURE
5.
REPORTS/CORRESPONDENCE
1)
Reports to Council received up to May 26: G. Boyle, Manager, Community
Planning: April 11; April
21
2)
Correspondence received up to May 26, 2008: D. Murray: May 22, 2008; May 23, 2008
On April 21, 2008 Council set the
date for the Public Hearing and Public Meeting. On May 9, 2008,
197 Notices were mailed to owners/occupiers within 100 metres of the
subject site. The statutory notice of Public Hearing and Public
Meeting appeared in the North Shore News on May 21 and 23, 2008.
The Municipal Clerk will note written submissions received for the May
28, 2008 Public Hearing/Public Meeting.
6.
APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION
Staff (Geri Boyle) gave background. MRosen gave more
background and said Collingwood was donating $15K toward a traffic
Circle at bottom of Chairlift. PJoyce of Bunt & Associates
described sidewalks, ~40 parking spots, revised pickup/dropoff
configuration.
JC: has school considered staggering start times in the
morning?
PJ: some thought but more extracurricular
JC: pretty dramatic in the
morning.
JP: agreed
Fred (didn't catch last name), Webster
Engg, described the parking lot, gravel, flow to stormwater
channel.
RD: a lot of trees and nearby dwellings seen from overhead;
letter concerned
Ans: 50 metres
VV: since positioned least interference with topography but cd it
be moved east to address concern of homeowner closest?
Ans: grades severe, wd require a lot of cutting and filling
Ans: not just cost but also disturbance
VV: alternate location, same difficulty?
Ans: this is the one that best fits the terrain there.
MRosen: involved in an open dialogue and process with residents;
one letter of opposition, new to us; dialogue resulted in support from
nbrhd and hope PH will bear that out.
JF: been v impressed the consultation
process; I wd like assurance an ongoing process
Collingwood has a stellar reputation as a
school but not as a good nbr; concern some process ongoing
consultation between parents, schol, nbrs wrt any concerns
arise.
MR: also raised by some of the nbrs we've
been engaged with. My client clearly see that dialogue has
clearly been
if not formal, there'll be informal
discussions; have set up a WG; will spend
time on issues.
7.
PUBLIC INPUT
Lady: wonder why here again today as last
year; wonder if more and more expansion.
dropped off my chn to school don't in
parking lots and if you go you'll see that.
Lots, will buy more. Tiny school --
we fought expansion and here we are again.
Checked planning
noise, pollution come from a parking lot.
All of these properties in this area are going to deteriorate.
Nbrs shd be protected. Parents don't live in nbrhd. If you
go and check zoning, sgl fam, count on Ccl protecting homeowners.
How many times do we have to fight this? This is just the next
step.
Man: Here to support parking lot. A
neighbour, impressed with school's efforts, this will ease problems,
congestion. Reviewed the reports and think lot will further ease
congestion on Chairlift Rd. Thank school, consultants, etc.
This proposal has my support.
Rick Malkin: live on west side of
Chairlift. Many of my concerns, like my nbr here. We've
been through this before. Debated school expansion year before.
Here we are again. Thin edge of wedge of expansion. Marr Crk,
Rodgers Crk, Chippendale, Chairlift, small area, less than a sq km of
land with just two points of entry and egress, no other way to get
into that part of WV. Having a school a major effect on traffic,
affects us all. Values will be affected greatly. Wd like
to ask School what plans are. We shd find out. This
expansion is being made on land purchased subsequent to original bldg
of school; obviously purchased with thought of future, what they can
do with it to expand the school. Now is the time to ask about
future plans My wife and I are v pro-educations and have heard
good reports about this school. If they can come up with their
plans and openly discuss that with Ccl; they have been starting with
the local ppl. Maybe we can find some compatible road we can go
along and pull together. Right now we seem to be pushed into
corners, or a time limit; we don't know what their plans are.
This is based on preserving the residential value of homes there, ppl
have invested in that area. Go forward as to what the big
picture shd be.
Mr Meredith: Deputy Headmaster; been here
for nine years, an education degree, not a traffic degree. Happy
in past year meeting with nbrs; solved a lot of problems. Solved
problems at Morven campus too. We are here for the long term; we
will have open mtgs, regularly scheduled mtgs. Tried staggered
start but it failed miserably. We've started having a daycare at
7:30 and asked parents to drop kids off at that time. Also
started a busing system. Traffic circle will allow older
students to walk to school. Thanks to Ccl. Been a
good process
Barbara Baird: just a few words, both parent and resident.
Started as a parent driving from Vancouver then was able to buy a
house. Saw traffic. Meeting nbrs tonight. My dropoff
is noon so I've seen the traffic; this gets traffic off the street.
Living in nbrhd heard about things that didn't pass. Hope
consultation will continue. Maybe we've made a mistake but we
can make suggestions. Property value increases around a school
if it's done right. Collingwood has purchased a lot of land so
opp to have parks, walkways,.... so can be an enhancement for all.
Think parking lot a good idea and want to work with WGs. Walk my
dog; opp to meet. I'm a parent and looking to live here for 14
years, thrilled now to be a resident of WV.
First Lady again: v narrow, v steep, ppl aren't going to walk
up. Why did Collingwood buy this property unless it intends to
expand the school. Been here before. It's about
expansion. Talk about traffic. If you let them in, you're
destroying a promise to me that this area was sgl-fam. You're
giving them the right, we want this bit and this bit. It will
never go back to sgl-fam. That's what we fought last year.
Too narrow, too dangerous. Must go somewhere else. Parents
not being affected by the noise and pollution. I'd welcome three
or four homes on this property, they aren't noisy.
If they want to be bigger they need to go elsewhere as Mulgrave
did. Who's going to say Collingwood didn't buy this to expand.
We fought in the fall against expansion.
JC: what's lifecycle of Section 219? in perpetuity
GB: in perpetuity [depends on Ccl]
JC moved receipt of information and closure of PH.
Mayor: Understand Mr Rosen wanted to speak, sorry didn't see your
hand.
MR: sorry, was was waiting for first, second
Mayor: already done that
MR: this proposal is nothing about expansion of the school, just
existing traffic
if expansion, Collingwood has to go through a process with Ccl,
staff, nbrhd. Opps to expand, anticipate an elaborate process;
here tonight dealing with an existing situation.
Mayor: anyone further wishing to speak?
Man: why was this lot selected to put the parking lot on rather
than the west side of the bldg; it's partially parking lot now and wd
take this easily and wdn't involve getting into these two lots, half
the blacktop is there; right now it's in scrub grass, etc
GB: will ask parking consultant; believe partially used now; wd
compromise that.
Ans: west side adjacent to Chairlift Rd? It's a v steep
hillside. The location of this lot, one of the benefits, for
those early arriving parents, will be able to join the back of the
queue from this.
Andrew X: this mtg is not for the parking lot it's for what the
school is going to do over the next few years. Going to be
gravel so minimum amt of money for the parking lot and school will ask
for further relaxation, and then the whole problem will be brought up
again on a six-monthly basis. Still going to be the same number
of ppl coming.
Mayor: all those in favour? {JC had moved receipt for info and
closure of PH]
CARRIED so PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED
=== CCL AGENDA
June 2nd ===
CALL TO ORDER
1. APPROVAL OF
AGENDA
2. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
-- No items scheduled.
REPORTS
3. Tree and Drainage Issues Adjacent to Martin
Corporation Lands
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report of the
Associate Director be received for information.
4. Nickel Bros. House Moving Ltd. - Request for an Order
of Non-Enforcement of Noise Control Bylaw - House at 2295 Inglewood
Avenue
RECOMMENDED: THAT
Council approve the request for an Order of Non-Enforcement of Section
6.1.2 (a)(iii) of Noise Control Bylaw No. 4404, 2005 from 11pm June 22
to 12 midnight June 23 to allow for the moving of the house to
Ambleside Park to be loaded onto a barge for transport to Vancouver
Island.
ADOPTION of BYLAWS (three
readings May 26)
5. Animal Control and Licence Bylaw No. 4545,
2008
6. Bylaw Notice Enforcement Bylaw No. 4368, 2004,
Amendment Bylaw No. 4559, 2008
7. CONSENT AGENDA
ITEMS -- Consent
Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence
REPORTS FOR CONSENT
AGENDA
8. Development Variance Permit Application 08-007
(5040, 5046, 5056 and 5060 The Byway)
RECOMMENDED: the report dated May 16, 2008, be scheduled for
consideration on July 7, 2008.
9. Development Applications Status List
-- received for information.
10. CORRESPONDENCE LIST FOR
CONSENT AGENDA
Requests for Delegation -- No
items presented.
Action Required
(1) M. A. Lakhani, Lakhani & Company, May 20, 2008,
regarding Hugo Ray Park
Referred to Director of Parks and Community Services for
consideration and response.
No Action Required (receipt
only)
(2) Light House Sustainable Building Centre,
May 23, 2008, regarding Two Energy Modelling Workshops
(3) L. Erickson, President, North Shore Amateur Radio Club
(NSARC), May 19, 2008, regarding Invitation to NSARC Field Day
2008
(4) R. Engle, Council President, Edgewater, May 13, 2008,
regarding Concerns about Spirit Trail
(5) M. Lenzen, Chairman, Northshore Supercities WALK for
MS Planning Cmte, May 12, regarding Thanks for DWV's
Support
(6) Fourteen E-mails/letters regarding Hugo Ray Park (6.1
to 6.14)
Responses to
Correspondence
(7) B.A. Dozzi, Manager, Roads and Transportation, May 21,
2008, reply regarding Spirit Trail
Attachments available for viewing in Legislative Services
Department.
Responses to Questions in Question
Period -- No items presented.
11. REPORTS from Mayor/Cclrs 12.
PUBLIC QUESTIONS/COMMENTS 13. ADJOURNMENT
=== THEATREWATCH
===
*** Bard on the Beach is in preview now; Opening Night is
Thursday, Jun 5th with Twelfth Night; see www.bardonthebeach.org
*** "Tuesdays with Morrie" has become a
well-loved classic, just as Antony Holland has. Such a
coincidence Morrie loved La Boheme and that was the last opera of the
Vancouver Opera season wch just closed
*** Thursday, May 29, saw "Where the Blood
Mixes" at the Kay Meek Ctr -- blown away by this play!
This is the first time for a Playhouse production to perform at KMC
(Thursday to Saturday). Then it goes to Toronto.
Incredible for a first play by a writer (Kevin Loring from
Lytton, graduate of Studio 58).
Took notes during the play. Excellent performances -- if
this is a preview, the world premiere in Toronto at the Luminato International Arts Festival will wow
them -- such talent, so close in the intimate studio theatre. It
comes back to Vancouver to the Roundhouse June 11.
Emotional, dramatic, moving, a story that keeps you interested.
Yes, it's a serious topic but there is humour. Reminded me of
Ibsen's expression in Peer Gynt -- "peeling the onion" as we
slowly find out about Anna.
Realistic, credible, topical, takes place in Lytton (right here
in BC!); geographic symbolism........
where the blood mixes.....
the clear blue Thompson meets the silty brown
Fraser
the native mixes with the newcomers
the mix can be destructive, can be a rescue and
constructive
the sturgeon is another powerful symbol -- and
foreshadowing
so glad it's not black and white or preaching and blaming -- it's
stories of lives true to today
Where the Blood Mixes, a
Playhouse Theatre Company Production at KMC
by
Kevin Loring; directed by Glynis Leyshon
Where the Blood
Mixes is the deeply moving story
of survival and reconciliation about a family and a community that
must find a way to heal. Playwright Kevin Loring, powerfully
articulate and drawing on his own storytelling traditions, creates a
highly personal and deeply engaging account of three people from the
N'lakapmux nation of Kumsheen (Lytton, B.C.). Where the Blood Mixes speaks about the emptiness we desperately try
to fill in our hearts, our longing
for love, and our return to a place
within ourselves that we can call home.
May 29, 30, 31
(8pm) special preview
presentation at KMC. Where the Blood Mixes was co-commissioned by Luminato, Toronto's Festival of Arts
and Creativity, and will premiere
at the Factory Theatre in Toronto, June 7-8. Where the Blood Mixes will also be presented in association with The Savage
Society at the Magnetic North
Festival, June 11 - 14 at the
Roundhouse Theatre.
=== NEWSWATCH
===
*** May 24: Zimbabwe's inflation is now over 1M%
*** Briefing -- Afghanistan --
A war of money as well as bullets
May 22nd 2008 | JALALABAD and
LASHKAR GAH From
The Economist print
edition
The Americans are learning the tricks of
the Great Game quicker than the British, who invented it. But a weak
and corrupt Afghan government is hobbling them. Read the whole
article:
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11402695
*** Briefing -- The Palestinians -- The wandering
Palestinian
May 8th 2008 |
NABLUS AND NAHR AL-BARED From The Economist print edition
Whether they
be in Nahr al-Bared..., Nazareth, or Nablus, Palestinians are united
by loss and by hope.
{The article is mostly about
Lebanon, and it is true that the discrimination against Palestinians
in Arab countries is incredible -- such as not allowed to buy/own land
or practise some professions. Anyway I'm also learning more of
the history b/c of Israel's 60th Anniversary. Noted in this
article The Economist omits the 'blessing' of the Lebanese Christians
at Sabra and Shatila. Most do know that the UN in 1947 roughly
divided Palestine, a British mandate territory in half: Israel and
Palestine (Christians and Muslims), and then through conquest Israel
expanded so that Palestinians were down to 22% and then with Israel's
planned Six-Day War of 1967, Israel took over the rest. Please
note that the Arab League has accepted Israel in the pre-1967 borders
(as had Arafat earlier), itself an enormous concession since means
down to 22% from almost half. In the late 70s Israel promised
Prez Carter they wdn't expand the settlements, then about 10-20,000,
but they're now about 400,000. I'd heard the Wall was taking
another 10%, I think of the 22%. I knew demolitions were
continuing while permits for Palestinians to build were being refused,
but this statement shocked me:}
In the West Bank, Israeli
settlements and military zones take up 40% of the land In
response to the second Palestinian intifada,
or uprising, that began in 2000, Israel laced the territory with
walls, fences and checkpoints that box its 2.5m Palestinian residents
into dozens of largely separate enclaves...
The 1.1m Palestinians inside
Israel are far better off, though they have long suffered legal and
economic discrimination. They are increasingly isolated from their
brethren. Israel bars them, as its citizens, from travelling to Gaza
or to most Arab countries, and their cousins in the occupied
territories are unable to visit them since Israel, to keep suicide
bombers out, has cancelled most permits....
The whole
article:http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11332217
{The article says peace negotiations collapsed
at Camp David 2 in 2000 but that's not true, they almost came to an
agreement at Taba in January 2001 but then it was clear Barak was
going to lose his position as PM so cd not continue. Annapolis
last fall was a hopeful if illusive sign and recent reports of
negotiations between Israel and Syria light another spark of
optimism.
CBC (May 30) had an interview with an Israeli
and a Palestinian visiting Canada advocating peace. Another good
sign.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu recently visited Gaza
(called the world's largest concentration camp; 1.5M ppl) and called
on the international cmnty not to remain silent in the face of such a
dreadful situation and loss of human rights.}
=== LANGUAGE ===
Spelling Bee
updated 9:36 a.m. EDT, Sat May 31, 2008
'Guerdon' wins
spelling bee for Sameer Mishra
Winner is four-time
participant in Scripps National Spelling Bee. He's a 13-year-old
from West Lafayette, Indiana. He says parents told him to
"stay calm, cool and collected".
WASHINGTON
(AP) -- As it
turned out, Sameer Mishra provided more than just comic relief at the
2008 Scripps National Spelling Bee. He won the title.
For the whole article:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/30/spelling.bee.ap/index.html
Canadians usually do better (second last year); quite a contest!
Another excerpt (heritage!):
Among the
spectators was 94-year-old Frank Neuhauser, the winner of the first
national bee in 1925. .... Neuhauser's prize was $500 in $20
gold pieces. He also was feted with a parade through his hometown of
Louisville, Kentucky.
=== HAIKU for May
=== 2008 May 24, West Vancouver
night scent of lilacs
through bedroom window
reminds me a year has passed
=== QUOTATIONS
===
In words are seen the state of mind and character and disposition
of the speaker.
--
Plutarch, biographer and philosopher (circa 46-120)
It is an ironic habit of human beings to run faster when we have
lost our way.
--
Rollo May, psychologist (1909-1994)
Of the events of the war, I have not ventured to speak from any
chance information, nor according to any notion of my own; I have
described nothing but what I either saw myself, or learned from others
of whom I made the most careful and particular enquiry. The task
was a laborious one...
--
Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, 404BC
Quotation from Michael Kluckner's
website:
And to have them go, not in some violent
cataclysm, an act of God, or under the fury of bombardment, but in the
quiet way of our generation: by council ordinance and bylaw, through
shady land deals; in the name of order and progress, and in contempt
(or is it small-town embarrassment?) of all that is untidy and
shabbily individual.
-- David Malouf, writing about
his home-town, Brisbane, in the Review, Weekend Australian,
2007 Sept 8-9
PUN
CORNER
~ I was
enamoured with the famous Paris art museum. It was Louvre at first
site.
~ A rubber band
pistol was confiscated from algebra class because it was a weapon of
math disruption.
COMPUTERS:
Will this
computer last five years?
Obsoletely!
GARDENWATCH
~~~ When the plums dry on your
tree, it's time to prune.
~~~ When kissing
flowers, tulips are better than one.
LANGUAGE
~
Ralph Waldo Emerson: Language is the archives of history.
~ Samuel Johnson: Language is the
dress of thought.
~ Virginia Woolf: Language is wine upon
the lips.
~ Mark Amidon: Language is the means of
getting an idea from my brain into yours without surgery.
~ Dorothy Parker: That woman speaks
eight languages and can't say no in any of them.
QUESTION
How many existentialists does it take to
change a light bulb?
Two. One to screw it in and one to observe
how the light bulb itself symbolized a single incandescent beacon of
subjective reality in a netherworld of endless absurdity reaching
toward a maudlin cosmos of nothingness.