:-)  Summer at last!  :-)

IN THIS ISSUE:

MAIN ITEMS July 14th: Survey on Qualify of Life and Financial Planning in DWV; Housing Dialogue (Status) Report; Cmnty Ctr Society -- Principles for Operation (listed); Gordon Ave Traffic Implementation Plan; MetroV's Transportation Strategy (DWV concern about possible property tax);  Greenhouse Gas Research and BC Climate Action Charter; Bear Abatement Measures, Solid Waste Utility Bylaws (three readings); Water Utility Loan Authorization Bylaw (three readings); Community Centre Loan Authorization Bylaw  (item 11, three readings); Bylaws re local election; Lease extension mouth of Capilano River; Cypress Bowl Trail Licence Extension; Deferred Correspondence and oodles more on the Spirit Trail

=  Vive le Canada (Queen Victoria); ANIMALWATCH (for walrus fans); from the EDITOR'S DESK; UPDATES (Spirit Trail, Police Colours, Water Restrictions); THEATREWATCH (Bard, Bard, Bard)

=  CALENDAR to July 25th (check for changes and updates); ARTWATCH (Sculpture in the Garden)

=  Ccl NOTES July 7th:  Ambleside Town Ctr; DVP 5040-60 of The Byway; Framework for a Social Action Plan; RODGERS CRK OCP Bylaws, PH set for July 28th (new info: current zoning permits only 308 units and 736 are proposed);  CEC Status Report (reconfirmed WGs cannot have closed mtgs); DVP 6460 Rosebery for July 21; rest of agenda and all correspondence deferred to July 14th b/c it was 11:20pm!

=  Israel-Palestine Quiz (I failed; bet you will too!); Police Blotter; Quotations (some for Engineers) and Question

        http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/England/Victoria.html

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDg7kWgs5e0

*  Good decision to have a WG look at the Spirit Trail (see Updates to apply).  Let's hope more decisions are first explored by residents first (with of course staff and Ccl liaisons).

*   Great that the Mayor reconfirmed her commitment to openness by restating clearly when the WG Guidelines came to Ccl that ALL WG mtgs are OPEN and cannot be closed.  That way you're sure you know about WG deliberations.  Of course if the topic is one that might require in camera sessions, then Ccl ought to choose a cmte or task force instead of a WG.

*  Well, you already have my rave reviews on Mel Brooks's The Producers at the Stanley (by Arts Club), now ended.  Music, dance, satire, and laughter (how else wd you describe putting on a play called Springtime for Hitler -- wch the producers were sure wd flop).  Hope it's revived or brought back.

*  Then there's our cultural jewel, Bard at the Beach -- a funny Twelfth Night and a daring, creative, humorous Tempest with classical/contemporary accompaniment (inspired a bard-ku).  King Lear is for those who'll brave an unusual interpretation, and gory Titus Andronicus opened Friday 11th.  Earlier issues have my comments on the first three plays so now it's Titus's turn.  We had seen the brave production at the Jericho Arts Ctr two years ago and knew how bloody and depressing a play it was (Shakespeare wrote it in his 20s, I think), so went with some apprehension.  It turns out, no need.  Kim Collier's productions has some elements that remove total depression and horror but do not detract from the core.  Jennifer Lines is striking as Queen Tamora.  The original music by Peter Allen accompanies the performance well (recorded).

The website is www.bardonthebeach.org, the ph no is 739 0559, or if you want to buy tix (and many performances are already sold out, then go to: https://tickets.bardonthebeach.org/TheatreManager/1/online?btnGetEventList&line=1&month=0&year=0&event=0&venue=0&search=

Overflow mtg at the Srs' Ctr.  The route between 19th and 24th, including both sides of the tracks is no longer being considered.  The trail will go somewhere else, and a process for planning the route will begin in the fall - a working group will likely be established.  Send your name if you're interested to Pascal Cuk, Executive Assistant to the Mayor (t 925 7012, f 925-5999, pcuk@westvancouver.ca).

Farmers' Markets: Dundarave on Sat, Ambleside on Sun; Concerts by the Sea Sunday evenings Amb Landing

== Wed July 16th == ~ 6pm ~ Library Bd at the Library; ~ 7pm ~ Bd of Variance

== Thurs July 17th ==   ~ 10:30am ~ Cmnty Engagement Cmte

                        ~ 6pm ~ NShFamily Court/Youth Justice Cmte, DNV M Hall

== Sat July 19th == Parks Day Celebration ALL DAY at Lighthouse Park

        ~ 5pm ~ Finance Cmte   

        ~ 5:30pm ~ Measuring Up WG (possibly in Peters Room, Library)

== Wed July 23rd ==  ~ 5pm ~ Environment WG in Peters Room, Library

== Thurs July 24th ==   ~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte

                        ~ 5:30pm ~ Police Bd mtg (Police Dept Boardroom)       

+++  WV MEMORIAL LIBRARY +++  see www.westvanlib.org

Gallery at the Library presents...   June 2 to July 31

        Photographs: Recent work by Rob Will, Laura Clark, Michelle Demers, and Roman Kralovic.

Fridays -- 10:30 - noon -- English Corner -- Practise English conversation. Every Friday, from now until August 30. Elizabeth Musto Room. For info call: Fariba Rocker, 604 506 6616.

 +++  FERRY BUILDING GALLERY  +++  June 24 - July 27

MOVE OVER, LEONARDO !  --  John Martin Gilbert  --  Fine Art, Fine Fun  --  Kinetic sculptures, inventions, fountains, Expo 86 projects, TV ads, home-brew experiments, zany demo tapes, and even a naughty book!

+++ SILK PURSE +++  (1570 Argyle) www.silkpurse.ca

===   ARTWATCH   ===  See www.ssbc.ca [details in last issue]

to July 20, open from 10am - 9 pm daily; VanDusen Botanical Garden, 5251 Oak Street, Vancouver

JC: on Friday afternoon, it was raised since I have a biz in Amb I might be in conflict of interest; solicitor's advice this afternoon and whereas it wd take a court challenge, probably appropriate I remove myself since this is important and needs to go ahead, not held up.

Sokol: several years and one of the things that brought me here

OCP and zoning only part, there's ABCDE; part of an overall strategy

Colette and I will share presentation

three special sites: celebration square, sufficiency of public notice -- has been a v public process and judging by turnout, bn v successful (two notices in public newspaper), that was accomplished, but also mailed out over 3K notices, bn several articles in NSNews, were some concerns not up but when sgl site goes up but in a large area cd be confusing if a sign went out

will be a proposed amendment wrt 1800-block of MDr

Colette Parsons: started in 2004

what lacking, what does it need; vision of area with arts and culture, Amb Park vision

2007, WG, unanimous recommendations

now developed OCP guidelines and Zoning bylaws

Sokol: OCP bylaw focuses on overall revit policy approved last year

compact commercial area; requires second-storey offices on second storey for supply of offices

widening sidewalks; improve pedestrian experience and automobile access to area then become pedestrians

A Biz Improvement Area

increase predictability

hope to diversify the uses in the Amb area; want to increase number of residents in area

residences in 1300 and 1800 blocks; enhance and add to our cultural assets

national status gallery and museum in Amb

in country, even in world!!!!

Square for events, want to provide multiple areas -- 14th or 17th between Marine and Bellevue, temporary

support sustainability; public gathering places; envmt -- live, work, and play

new bldgs with green bldg design

improve movement to and through the area

1300 south side 1400N and 1600 S -- to be treated specially; proposing not to rezone them, will have to come forward to a special process, come before Ccl

person will have to show what wd be on AC1 and put their proposal next to it -- public be able to judge whether getting.... art gallery, public parking

secure CB -- will be a formula: basic services, pay for mitigative measures, also contribute toward cmnty amenities; will not require renovations to pay cmnty benefit

CP: on screen is a chart with existing zoning

current ht allows for two storeys at 35ft, can get a three-storey if meritorious design under current zoning (still under that ht)

we're proposing three storeys outright at 37ft, intended to address ground floor retail needing higher ceiling

introducing a possibility of a fourth storey, sp conditions 120ft.... 14Ksf ??? and grade change

to meet fourth storey have to meet parking and setbacks

under current zoning, no front setback, example 15th and Marine NE corner

want to set back bldgs as they move up

looking for ways to get light and open space for upper residential units

30ft from ctr of lane, means 20ft from prop line

when 1968 zoning came into effect, parking at rear of prop, not underground, but as land values increased parking put underground

seen rear yard setback to 4ft from prop line wch is achievable under our current zoning

more of a wall, done in the last 25 years, proposing an improvement to last 25 years -- move away from frontages

common sense approach to allow light down to street, terrace bldgs, outdoor space [slide of side view]

3ft setback allows us to widen sidewalks

fourth storey set back a min of 30ft

keeping 4ft setback at lane but each storey up an add'l 10ft

relaxed second storey from 100??? to 200??? sf ofc?

re parking, diff between AC 1 and AC2 -- differ in use AC 1 mixed use commercial 14th to 18th

for 1300 and 1800 be flexible and allow for both mixed use or primarily residential

FAR -- we do not define that currently; under proposed trying to give some predictability as to what they can build to; some have reached 1.75FAR, eg Van City and Hollyburn Med at 17th & M

See opp to take some sq ftg and move it up to a fourth storey for a portion of the site for interesting bldg forms and break up massing of Amb in general

these changes reflect incremental change

In Devt Permit process, ev bldg has to go through; comply with OCP, DP process, will have to hold a public info mtg with staff mbr present; Ccl approval nec for all devts

Rezoning process -- tonight we're holding a PH, so same

One amendment we'd like to make in what we're considering tonight

block in 1800 N of Commercial, between Marine and Duchess

parking at main grade level; main living space a few feet above main level.  We're recommending to increase at lane level from 4ft to 8ft to get a landscape buffer

b/c not a change in use or density, Ccl can include this in the proposed bylaws

overall vision of Amb area; holistic approach; on balance hope you see positive aspects

Mayor: questions of staff?

Sop: yes; bldg hts 35 to 47 [sic]; measure from?

CP: we take an average along the site, from the frontage at one side 1ft and other 10ft so take average (5ft)

Sop: N South viewing from front -- looking at 47ft measured from ctr of lot

CP: along frontage line, not NS line; so if site... up 47ft...

Sop: addition of eight ft

CP: taking from frontage and taking it straight back; ....  more in ctr of site

Sop: explanation of lowest 37ft and then 47ft, clarify diff; where measuring front

CP: from front face of the bldg

Sop: on a sloped site, N side, four storey and 47ft that the 47ft, measure from MDr -- no higher anywhere on site from MDr

CP: within setbacks

Mayor: can you make it short?

Sop: why?

Mayor: b/c we have many

Sop: you're actually going up 24ft before angling in

..... how wrt shadowing M Dr

CP: under current zoning you can build even a two-storey bldg at 35ft; this third storey set back an add'l 9ft

I have more but will leave it

JF: received an enquiry tonight, why three public lots not included in AC1 zoning change 7:38

Sokol: parking lot is tied in with one of the special sites and tied in with a ????

5.         PUBLIC INPUT 7:41

Brenda Sweeney: family-owned property 1590 Bellevue for 40 years; participate in renewal

in proposal our prop was missed, provides a strategic opp for cmnty to align it with long-term vision for the cmnty.  Set the zoning as AC2 from C2 (slide shows it is a medical bldg).  Currently we are the only bldg from 13th to 26th without residential zoning.

[slide showing area]

Our goal to align with vision: housing, increase residential presence, customers to support commercial presence; increase resid in periphery

believe some signif benefits for these changes; remove anomaly

buffer between green space on Argyle and commercial so think three benefits 7:46

Mike McCallum: Prez of Wedgewood Terrace 1370 Duchess, owned by owner-occupiers; letters received and a number here this evening

most measures to be applauded but some

believe shd be kept free of tall bldgs; the whole area between 13th to 19th and Argyle to N of MDr shd be zoned AC1 or AC2.  One of the cclrs at the mtg I attended in May, a cclr said village concept but to my mind a highrise doesn't fit.

Safeway site will affect our views

bldgs shd be between three and four storeys; exclude 1600block S

Masonic Hall site hasn't been mentioned and it calls for a bldg of five storeys and a mystery to me no reference made to this site; shd just be incorporated into AC1 or AC2.

District has spent so much time waterfront lands preserved, a shame to hem them in with canyon-like

you say to reduce parking reqmts for second storey -- residents have problems as it is so to make it less stringent troubling.  Shdn't you be bringing in resident parking permits up to Esquimalt?

agree 4ft to 8ft re lane, have a son there with two chn; need to be speed bumps too

wrt 1590 Bellevue, better off to be purchased by the City, torn down, and incorporated into plan south of the tracks.

look forward to boundaries being changed so no more high rises

Chuck Walker: 1455 Bellevue commercial enterprise; wd like to add biz thoughts; sat on cmte of ten from 17 to 84 and believe it or not unanimity, get on with changes and beautification

to correct Mr Sokol, this commenced over 15 years ago; satisfied pursued to this level; devt will take about 20 years to complete

look around room, got three to four years; given I'm the only one who's immortal  :-)

Don Dunbar: live on Duchess -- 1800; my views and those of the two next are those of the area as a whole

cd impinge on our privacy; replace views with concrete walls; met with staff and most cclrs

Mem Park to West and Lawson Crk to East; limited access; spacious yards, closeknit nbrhd; resisted selling and Transition Zone

fully support spirit and objectives of OCP but unique character of our nbrhd deserves

unanimous in our nbrhd, see from list, AC2 will drastically reduce our ...

goal to ensure enhance, occur in manner pre...

we hope Ccl and the Mayor take this to heart

APPLAUSE

Carl Hunter: want projector for transparencies; 19th St; Mem Park enclave

aim to show impact and AC3

shd make statement 13th and 18th entrance

to preserve this small nbrhd, gentle transition

S side of Duchess homes oriented to S for sun, light, view; lose privacy and light with proposed bylaws

potential for three storeys on MDr wd severely affect 1800, more than 1300

[slide example of two storeys, impact from second floor of residence]

we therefore recommend a special AC3 zoning -- three storeys on MDr and two storeys

set back

third that landscaping in that area for an appropriate visual transition

maintain sgl-fam environment

Linda Sherwood: 1800 Duchess; speaking on behalf of this area known as the Memorial Park enclave

only block where sgl-fam homes share block/lane with commercial

magical area; amazed such a beautiful area exists so close to MDr/Comm area

character lies in the original homes built in the 1920s and 30s -- well-maintained and show our pride in nbrhd.  Spirit shows -- cmnty within cmnty summer barbecue and Christmas party

most supportive nbrhd we've ever lived in

in your visits to our nbrhd last week, you saw what we experience ev day

we have documented the effects on the nbrhd

we think our area wd be an excellent transition to the new Amb

sense of arrival, maintain interest, goals of Amb TCtr strategy

strongly feel plan will have a negative effect on our nbrhd as a whole but also on strategy

make sure we not lose, once lost, cannot be brought back again

Your worship; members of Council.  I am Frank Rutter of 740 Burley Drive and a West Vancouver resident for 35 years.  Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinions on Ambleside redevelopment. I am very worried about it.  I am most concerned about the impact on the heart and soul of our community.  Ambleside is our heritage and one reason I am concerned is that West Vancouver district has not always, if you will pardon me for saying so, adequately protected our heritage in the past.  I am also concerned that the proposed bylaws and guidelines are too permissive -- too willing to accept excess density and especially excess height of buildings.

I completely agree that Ambleside should be considered primarily a pedestrian-friendly area.  But this means a diminution of traffic which I believe has not been adequately addressed in any of these proposals. There should be less traffic, not more in Ambleside.  It should move slower to accommodate pedestrians, with many crosswalks and more restrictions. If necessary, this means rerouting some traffic. It also means restricting parking and moving it away from the core of the pedestrian area.

I do not believe it is necessary to pack Ambleside with new upmarket and expensive business premises.  Ambleside is our community gathering place and shopping space. The sort of businesses needed in Ambleside are not those already located in Park Royal but services for the community that are easy to access and answer our needs -- like the drugstore, the bank, the supermarket, the florist, the shoe repairer, the bookstore, the hardware store, the paint store, the cafe and the restaurant, legal and insurance services, and so on.  Yes, a theatre -- desperately needed.  Definitely not a hotel (more traffic of course).  And not exclusive upmarket premises. One of the reasons why the so-called revitalization of Ambleside is perceived as needed is that landlords have driven out small businesses by raising rents above reasonable levels -- not that businesses have failed or been discouraged because of lack of customers or inadequate premises.

Ambleside definitely does NOT need big buildings. These bylaws allow bigger buildings than we now have. They allow much bigger buildings than perhaps many people in West Vancouver realize.They allow three storeys where two would be sufficient. They allow four storeys where three would be a desirable absolute maximum -- and if you look closely at these bylaws -- they allow FIVE storeys and even more in some areas.

This is totally wrong in my view. It would destroy the ambience, the flavour, the community spirit and character that is an essential part of the Ambleside heritage. There should be firm and universal rules regarding development or redevelopment. Fixed limits on height and density. Maybe a single zone. The extent of flexibility in these bylaws is a recipe for disaster, for future rule-breaking, and for a completely different Ambleside.

As I said Ambleside is our heritage. I urge you to consider our heritage and I urge you to realize that what you do to it is your legacy.

MUCH APPLAUSE

Dennis Meares: speaking on behalf of strata Bellevue Landing and nearby bldg

I moved here 50 years ago and some of my nbrs even longer

thank you for the work you've done over the years maintaining the beauty and livability

been a nice place to live; recog things change

public discussion v important, you're aware Mr John Seddon attended most of the WG mtgs

made our views known

our most serious concern, that is to close occasionally 14th St on MDr and Bellevue; those on last Ccl we were opposed to farmers' market and was moved to another area

some of us have patios: noise, garbage, and toilet needs serious

our front door is halfway down that block; access by fire ambulance

festival visitors don't tend to shop in high end stores

revitalization is going to need boutique-type outlets so having cmnty events doesn't match

pleased to see streets wd remain open except for occasional events but says might include longer events such as farmers' markets and Harmony Arts

Checked with staff and they said decision Ccl shd make

14th a special role; respectfully request de-emphasizing a festival street concept rather as easy open link between MDr and Bellevue as view corridor; maybe limit to two or three days a year, such as Cmnty Day.

appreciate visit and if anyone else wants to come, pls do

Dolly Cartwright: must be the longest-serving resident present tonight

1281 Clyde Ave since 1927; still here, still alive,still taking part in cmnty affairs

hv seen WV from a small village with cows in Amb Park, to soldiers who built houses there up on stilts; seen many many changes; it's a wonderful place to live, but change is inevitable.

We cannot go back to the days of the cows and the pigs, must go forward to become a vital area to live work and play

marvellous, can go down to beach; Sunday had tribes

along MDr, all go down to waterfront; change is inevitable; can't leave 13th to 18th

admire Ccl and Group; yes, we need change, and keep some of the good things

we're dying otherwise, we can't do that, not as long as I'm alive

Name (Man): express my support for Mr Meares

one thing that cd greatly enhance, wd be to bury ugly overhead wires; make an impact

Brenda Marco: merchants at Bellevue Landing

in retail mgmt for over 30 years; festival traffic -- vandalism, fighting, etc; fewer customers

our own niche market 14th to 17th; enhance 13th; small boutique hotel

our ofc also manages 17th & Bellevue -- detergent dumps in fountain, quite challenging

[CLAPPING]

Mayor: is Carolanne Reynolds here?

CR: Editor, WVM.  Sorry, bit of an obstacle course to get up here!

Good evening.

It took several years to get to this stage -- thanks to Ccl, staff, and citizens.  All agree that it is time again for revitalization of Ambleside.

While in my opinion more concentration of the commercial area, provision of integrated residential units, and retention of the village character in Ambleside is the goal, it can be stated in principle in the OCP.

This is where I take Cclr Sop's point that there's no need for a blanket upzoning.  And tonight I've heard there's a variation of that.  When I wrote this, I hadn't heard the presentation of course.

Everyone wd know the range of possibilities for the area and then each application can be addressed in that context -- as has been done for years -- and that gives us (and Ccl) all the maximum input and flexibility.

And I think that's the point Colette Parsons made about Devt Permits.

This wd assure the business cmnty that rejuvenation and devt will be welcome as well as assuring residents that they will have their say.

Traffic, parking, view corridors, pedestrian-friendly sidewalks/streets/lanes and connections to the waterfront can be foreseen in the plan.

With real estate prices so high not just the large companies but also the variety of little stores, as found in villages, ought to be enabled to remain.

70% of WV's popn lives in the eastern half; 40% of WV's popn lives in multifamily.  Most ppl I speak with are not in favour of expansion of the highrise area.  'Human-scale' surroundings provide comfort.  The survey by ADRA, with results given to Ccl, indicates that residents do not even want five storeys as indicated permitted in this town ctr proposal.  Already two storeys are allowed and a third with aesthetic merit -- height limits shd be kept but there can be other reasons for having a third storey -- rental or smaller units addressing the dilemma of more affordable housing -- and eager local customers!

Next, but certainly a priority, any increase in value of the land shd be calculated, ie Uplift, and then the Cmnty Benefit Policy applied for the residents'/cmnty's share.  There appears to be a formula proposed by staff wrt amenities and it wd be appreciated if this cd be fully explained and demonstrated how it fits with the Cmnty Benefit Policy and respecting the goal of not just gifts to business and devprs but also adhering to sharing them with the rest of the cmnty realizing that commercial must be judged differently from residential for encouragement.

[APPLAUSE]

? Bradley: more time; upzoning in guise of improvement; and not usually in benefit; sometimes to detriment of homeowners

did have hotel, want to know if feasible again; dense; area overloaded with cars

wd like to understand -- 1300block, police moving

nbrhd is a treasure; historic ctr of WV; improvements have not always...

if need more residents...  money required; tail wagging the dog

APPLAUSE

concerns other residents have stated; I work, not listed...

Seenery (?) Slater: three zoning variances have been allowed that affected our views

I have not experienced any improvements

our concerns were registered for these ...

towers at three special sites; too high a price; surely improvements without that high a price

enhance livability; for benefit of all, biz, residents ... alike

Ruth X: 565 17th St, directly behind Royal Bank, kittycorner from Safeway

I see changes in 15 years, have lived in this cmnty for 45 years

bldgs have gone up on both side of us

degree of inclination going up 17th from MDr  us on west side, to newest one; close to same incline

how come it sits so much higher than our bldg -- is that a zoning thing or not?

had a parking lot, another bldg went up, has to be roughly the same inclination, midblock 17th and 18th

reason I know that is that Mitch (?) and I live on top floor and even if you include the pyramids, the skylights, we're now sitting as high as those two

since we have a low ceiling, our three-storey concept had been changed to be quite higher

what it means to us, have our view, spent dollars for some years ago, ...

in front CIBC and further down Masonic -- is all of that going to be four storeys?

being zoned with some ambiguity to it; going to be put aside for further devt?

seem some flexibility we shdn't be entertaining; resent what's going on around us

must think rather the same on some things, the view part

want to know what planned for Safeway; four storeys wd obliterate

look out the window here and see what four storeys is --

need to be explicit; applies to ppl who live up 18th, 19th, etc

know about Safeway -- I really want to know

extremely important to be explicit; reply wd be appreciated

Gail Colmar: three sites definitely opposed to being exempted, shd be included in zoning

retain village and.... to leave these sites to future....

Duncan Pearce: lived here for 33 years, biz for nine years, own a comm prop in area

congratulate getting this far; Amb needs help; support most of the proposals

to enjoy more; languishes from vacancies and ....

more and varied forms of ......

Kerrisdale, can work here too

not just about ppl who live here now but who will be here in future

increasing the economic certainty before taking risks in devt prop

completing process quickly; time for action

not much of discussion wrt cmnty amenities; Carolanne Reynolds spoke to this

to a small prop owner, cd make difference; opposite to very things trying to achieve

what's wrong with helping, well occurs with DCC

Cmnty amenity ....

redevpd site.... strongly urge you to remove this disincentive

re four-five storeys -- makes sense b/c anything above four diminishes village atmosphere but those three left ....

consider all of the views of this nbrhd

Bill? Callaghan: had privilege of working with Amb Group

personal opinion, cd hv taken it to further, think group saw balance and ...

some small steps to kind of place we want to live in

As Dolly said, young to old; get going, with Chuck on that

Mayor: Andrew King can follow you

Mary Sherrett: run a home-based music teaching

Amb has amazing potential but yet to reach it

my relatives felt sorry we lived in Ambleside, offered money, hadn't looked; so took a long slow walk,Amb lacks child and pet-friendly spaces; quaint little walk-throughs, more of a village feel

wd be great to attract more unique shops, galleries, and cafes

definitely need a new design, don't know how we got so ...

like Dundarave

more housing; back from street so more ambience

awnings -- Park Royal Village dropped the ball

wonderful to have a foot ferry to downtown

little ...  wonderful to see it thrive to its potential; recognize for ppl who hv lived here a long time, it's scary but ....

APPLAUSE

Aileen McManaman (?); Haywood; keep watch over Ccl, thank you for work you do

I too served on Amb Grp, [ages] did range from 17 to 83

some of us did work, 12, 14-hr days

biz cmnty, rec, arts ...

not 18-storeys, look at doc, not there; wanted to come and say, relax; a lot of thought

seen so many of the strong ...

as a biz person, the objectives and look at tactics; it will not happen and continue to walk past a dozen nail salons and not much else

Kerrisdale is moving ahead faster than we are, Gastown

might be a bit of garbage in fountains, we'll clean it up; noise, we'll deal with that

sustain a roll-over of new families

APPLAUSE

Alan Shapiro: 2710 Rosebery; support this initiative; love WV ...see chances to improve

density staff talking about isn't more than can be built; think baby steps

here as voice of many; don't have time to come out

Elaine Fonseca: speaking as a resident, not as President of ADRA: I'll make another presentation later this evening.

As a resident, I noted this PH was scheduled for June 16; b/c of staff oversight; missing three pages; now being held on a summer evening in July, when many away on holidays

this hearing reflects and ..   the whole cmnty

for whole cmnty; future of Dund and residents

when I came at 7pm there were ppl standing; have it at a proper time

APPLAUSE

Linda Kowalski: moved to WV a year and a half ago from West End -- you guys live in paradise

I live in an apt also a dream 14th and ...  can see Stanley Park and Siwash

however if they put ... I will lose my view, value drop $50K ...

higher around 13th and 14th as long as not 18th; -- don't put them anywhere

more coming over bridge; good for businesses but ...

Elaine Fonseca: Prez of ADRA [reading excerpt of letter to Mr Sokol]

{Here's the full letter wch is one of the submissions for the PH:}

"ADRA agrees that Ambleside Village would benefit from revitalization, but  we have serious concerns, especially regarding building height and densification.

An ADRA survey, conducted last Fall,  shows:

=B7      85 per cent of our members oppose the density proposed in the Council Report for the Ambleside business district;

=B7      82 per cent say traffic and parking are problems and 88 per cent want additional parking;

=B7      90 per cent want to limit north side development to three storeys but 45 per cent  would prefer two storeys;

=B7      94 per cent would limit south side development to three storeys but 66 per cent would prefer two storeys.

These views were discussed at ADRA's most recent directors' meeting, at which it was agreed that buildings of the height and density proposed in the Council Report would radically and adversely change the character of our seaside Village. Buildings on the south side of Marine Drive should be limited to two storeys, important to avoid sunlight deprivation. Buildings on the north side of Marine Drive should be limited to three storeys.  We also believe that development should be conducted under regulations that apply to the area as a whole, not subject  to variations for individual projects.

There are many vibrant and successful business areas in Greater Vancouver with building heights and density less than recommended in staff's report. For example, the highest building in North Vancouver's Edgemont Village, often cited as a model for Ambleside, is three storeys, and most buildings there are single storey.

We sincerely hope you will consider these views, which represent the concerns of the people who actually live in the area affected, as well as the Municipality as a whole, because Ambleside is the heritage and the heart of our community."

ADDING:

=  regulations as a whole, not subject to variations such as Safeway, Police Stn

=  understand West Van Florist up for sale, what height there?

=  let's not forget the increased density of Ev Dr and of Rodgers Crk

=  pls take [into consideration?[; v imp for our cmnty hope you respect all mbrs in it

APPLAUSE

David Thomas: Monteverdi; realtor for 30 years; not really providing any more density than what currently exists but does allow rules clearly written out; no increased density, no wall of bldgs going to block anybody's view; projects well thought out tiered and will benefit whole cmnty

sometimes wonder if we're looking at the same doc

as I work with ppl seeking ofc space, and not any in Amb; means medical services/profs haven't a place to operate out of

Lady:  37 years, live with parent

some vandalism ... I'm a cancer survivor... car accident at 14th and.... injured; cd hv bn killed

my concern is density and traffic; afraid

how friendly are you going to be to traffic?

safety can't be put at expense; definite issue

Mr Roden: 30 prop owners, we have a concern; special assignment, right in front of us, 14th & Clyde parking -- in hands of owners

what we're concerned about is what is not on paper

we can't; nothing but C2 and it's not going to stay that way

ask Planners to assign a zoning; so critical info to review

Mayor: have a recommendation?

Ans: wd like to see; if C3 or C4; devprs sitting there waiting then go for 5 or 6

but we have no idea; need a designation we can understand that fits in with this plan for the future.

Rob Harrington: served on WG; both myself and my wife were born in WV

own West Van Florist, purchased from Dad, dad from uncle

Simpson's up for sale; Tools & Techniques will not be renewing its lease

BIA badly needed; really need your help

as current zoning, can't understand what all arguing is about

allowed 35ft high, measured from ctr of prop; 35/37ft

also large enough to build from street to lane; can put in adequate parking without putting in ... probably achieve 1.75 is only one storey and 3/4 of the next

some of the bldgs built new v interesting and new

don't need a big box we currently cd build and that wd not be beneficial

this is why I've supported this initiative even though we're going to have to set back, giving extra width to sidewalk, all more important that great big bldg on prop

build one, right step in right direction

Mayor: anyone want to speak? seats here,

Craig Cameron: moved back to the cmnty a couple of years ago, grew up here

struck by the generational divide, some exceptions, my age or under under 40 see a prob with vitality

vote with their feet to go shopping be entertained, they leave or go to Park Royal

glomming onto this principle; find it strange ppl wd find this threatening; -- we cd even go farther

Linda X?: live on Esq. Feb 2007 letter published in NSN to M&Ccl

lived off and on for 47 years by choice, lovely

tourists and money; commercial anywhere in NAm

did not elect Mayor .... for profit

keep our beaches; run a tight budget.... rents too high; don't need Rodeo Dr

before we find we've sold our sanctuary

[Lady] Robbie: you've sent three notices for PH

an OCP is a wishlist of what you want to see; ev four to six years look at it and change

District will assist.... promote the area, attractive mix of ...

came back to WV 2.5 years ago and hasn't changed in 15 years

then flip over AC1 and AC2; ev time a devpr wants to do something you do it, have 73 zones

AC2 means for resident only

then look at map, 1300 you want to rezone to AC2 -- cd be high level condos

can't see how improve biz

10 to 15 biz, where are they going to go?  how are you going to help them?

again expensive condos

biz -- where are they going to go

Mayor: sorry we didn't get your name

[Robbie]

Lady: hearing biz don't have enough customers

I live on Clyde; mother at 15th and Duchess

park and ride; caregivers, plumbers, ....

have to drive around the block 15 times to find a place to park

Edgemont, Dunbar, ... traffic two hours to keep them moving

Mayor: anyone else wanting to speak?

Trudy Adair: just wanted to read something

searching around Internet: "welcome to quaint Ambleside by the Sea; wonderful cafes, shopping, and restaurants, ... , etc.  Come, discover, experience, and enjoy"

if we put four-storey bldgs along M Dr; no one will be able to see

as I live behind Hollyburn; assured three but turned out to be four then five with the structures on roof

passionate about Ambleside Village

Karl Gustavson: resident for 25 years

involved both professionally, soccer coach, Design Panel, also on cmte for Amb Plan

ppl shd understand opportunity to talk as it goes forward

look at 19th and Marine, Delany's, Pat's restaurant

not suddenly four storeys, earn, each site will create different options

opps for small scale; barber shop, lawn mower

incredible plan to move forward

a lot sitting around waiting for something to happen; a lot waiting to see where this will go

Amb will stay stagnant unless we move forward on a positive; say to cmnty, don't be afraid

look at views, individ basis,...

Mayor: anyone wishing to speak? anyone for a second time?

Chuck Walker: the design of the bldgs, two: density in downtown Amb if you think sufficient, walk the street at 10 o'clock at night, unless ... club with your

not a pleasant place to walk at night

it's a destination to get through

density has to be improved in downtown core; biz to support it

evenings a terrible situation

unfortunately price of land, anyone who owns a house is a millionaire

for somebody to risk their own prop without  ...  ridiculous

question apparent surveys: most enlightening to see surveys, what who and how many were done

surveys done by the city, well in excess of 80% in favour of something to go

threw a red balloon up [restaurant/marina]; 90% letters, when can I move my boat here?

loggerheads at TransLink, need watertaxis; hope new head [better]

thank you; enjoyed last year

Marion Ward-Hall: v interested in the redevt of Amb but as I listen to this presentation about these three sp locations ..

Mayor: old MacDonald's site

M W-H: important we shd hv some idea if relocating the Police Stn, where you plan to relocate it.  Right now it doesn't impact v many ppl; if you take it out of commercial area, going to put in a residential area?

by avoiding the issue, now have a timebomb waiting to explode somewhere; at least shd know what is going to happen

Pearce? danger this shd be viewed a pro-biz only

work together; biz serves residents and ......

don't think there's a sgl person who wants to walk past for sale signs

you can build 1.75 on many sites right now

allow ppl to move into nbrhd; Amb is a ghost town from 7pm

if you want to go out and do anything, echo gentleman, go somewhere else

why not some nice restaurants as in Dundarave? they won't survive if no residences; where housing supply going to come from; progress; means redevt

MS: in view of comments; staff report

Mayor: helpfully if you

MS: Cclr Sop

Sop: heard a lot tonight; impressed; clarification on bldg height

passion to do a certain amt of that; where it sits right now

this mtg shd be left open; staff, give me some certainty; incorporate Sweeney Prop

Mayor: 1500 Bellevue

Sop: amending ... parking analysis and scope; what has been done to date

if bldgs expanded, parking at back will disappear

like to see a shadow impact study of bldgs along MDr

setbacks as well as ht of 37ft

layover of new hts -- cd be done by computer

14th, part of Macdonald's; commercial/residential ... to bottom

come back; ultimately we're going to get a win-win

JF: have no problem adjourning for another week for staff

some questions hv bn answered by staff; no problem again

threes sites; some ... about

why they are not being rezoned at present

simply not understanding is not ....

underground wires, Masonic Hall -- why diff, not same as other

wd urge Ccl to not delay this too long; stores are closing and shutting down

mtg with 18th St residents at 5pm then to Trafique

5:30 on a Friday night, you'd imagine hustle and bustle; ppl going, stores staying open

remember coming to Ccl extending biz hours... cd

hardware store, thrown out at 6pm b/c they wanted to go home

all stores were closed, -- clothing, antique [none open] till 711; this is our biz area

VV: hv spoken previously on the parking and composition of WG

most crucial sentence in study by Bunt in 2005; a shared parking supply important

supply 104/70 [???} stalls, not as effective b/c as shared, only 46% not

stores on South side, customer-only parking; not shared

need to know where are, breezeways midblock; there in Dund, breezeways

Village took ribbing but they do much better than Amb

honestly think way parking is av in Amb; elsewhere

Mayor: parking is critical but we're trying to come up with what staff to [report]

VV: our failure to set aside $1M [for parking?]

[Sop's amendments?].... say yes  ... say yes

and it's not in front of us and haven't the money set aside

my preconditions is doing this elsewhere won't succeed

agree with those sp sites

separately stated by our staff and in NSNews

why close the possibility locating in one of those blocks?

to residential only' owners will maximize and go for all resid; then art gallery, museum

oh dear, we've excluded them

before we close the doors on residential

absolutely not ready to vote; don't think it will vitalize unless we get all of these pieces...

Mayor: ...sounding like adjourning; for you shared parking -- that's in the proposal

RD: willing to adjourn, Ccl moving in that direction

think Sokol shd accept, know he's written and think he shd go further

causes insecurity no height on that; maybe four or five storeys; model Hollyburn and IGA visually three

if we cd build more like those wd solve our problems

agree with Cclr F; ...

I like Amb, go down there all the time; my wife doesn't want to see any changes at all, but I'd like  to....

echo what KG said, only a set of guidelines; no strict regulations, a set of guidelines ...

do need another report from Planning; hear more from public than get back to ...

Mayor: the report says wd have to demonstrate why anything more than AC1

if it wd be better to have AC1, why not do that

I know WG felt beyond their mandate to get into those props without...

so if this idea of setting three sites has introduced instability, opposite, ...

to close a street,  ... think we shd take that out

two on lane what Ccl wd like to see

v important that these proposals attempt to improve upon Amb

there's really no way to provide beautiful bldgs

with exception of ...

no industrial zones uses that are current

no surprise focused on height

stepping back as Sop says needs to be ...

VV:  ...re parking we don't know what we have right now

MS: staff direction

...  site as special; ev piece of prop is special

don't see how you can take three and say sp; they shd be included in the zoning for the entire area; staff shd include that

no way Ccl can start [designation or designing?]  ... slur on ...

Sop: if the three put in ...

now, calls for PH, same thing we're going though tonight

cd have a cap on it

RD: extend PH past 10pm; then I'll move ccl mtg till end of biz

Sop: ...

MS: just to hear you continue talking Cclr Sop, I'll vote for it

Sop: maybe not understood ...

Mayor: maybe

Sop: all zones going into one; set back 35ft now 37ft

do that in a prezoning; ev will have an opp to do that

come before us as a DP

what will be the opp for public input? same as rezoning? no, it is not

look at bldg at 19th; 17th little high but well done

Mayor: trying to provide direction to staff; then a PH

Sop: maybe

Mayor: adjourn to a date

Sokol: cd I get some clarification

some of the items wd be lengthy, take time to get back

some wd require renotification b/c change of xxx and use

Sweeney prop, pretty clear 1800 Duchess, parking analysis/issues, three sp sites, overhead wires, Masonic Hall site, 14th & Clyde parking lot, sp sites why not zoned AC1, celebration sq, re 18th Heritage designation, shadow impact study and overlay

Sop: time?

Sokol: believe wd take time

Sop: maybe not need

Sokol: not in your package for next week so 21st

MClk: there's already a PH on July 21st at 7pm so for another wd hv to have another time

Mayor: it was to be after this

MClk: 8 o'clock

Mayor: 7:30

VV: we've heard difficult to get; after Labour Day and in Srs' Ctr where everyone can sit down

JF: staff report back; July 21st at 7:30pm

Sop: have it; to after Labour Day so be it; better to get it right

Mayor: readjourn on July 21st;

[10:14] RD moved mtg to extend to end of biz

Mayor:  3, 4, etc must be done tonight; ppl been here

VV: staff been here

Mayor: let's try to get through by 11pm

1.  APPROVAL OF AGENDA

JC: re Rodgers Crk [add'l info]

2.  ADOPTION OF MINUTES:  June 9, 16, and 19, 2008 Council Minutes

3.         Development Variance Permit Application No. 08-007 (5040, 5046, 5056 and 5060 The Byway)

Staff report received for information;

PASSED

call for public input

Mayor: no one here signed up; someone here?

Bill Chapman: here as applicant

MS moved: approval of DVP which would allow for the exemption of two lots from the minimum frontage requirements of the Local Government Act and a variance on the site width and lot depth requirements of Zoning Bylaw.

Sop: moved all add'l info as well?

MClk: yes; MS made that motion

Mayor: Ms Scholes; two motions; on receipt?

[PASSED and on verbal submissions?]

4.         Community Grants/Social Services Working Group Recommendations:  Strengthening Social Support Systems in West Vancouver - "Blueprint for Social Responsibility and Change - A Framework for a Social Action Plan"

Anne Mooi (staff liaison): Group's final recommendation and report

two mbrs will present specific recommendations: Blueprint .... Recomms on Cmnty Grants

Most of the mbrs are here tonight: Erica Crilly, Andy Krawczyk, Cecil Scantland, Darya Niknamian, Sonja Sanguinetti, Zarrin Sadeghi, Greg Fleck, and Pattie Donnelly

APPLAUSE

[text supplied]

I would now like to ask both Erica Crilly and Andy Krawczyk to come forward to provide an overview of the Community Grants/Social Services Working Group's recommendations.  Thank you

Erica and Andy to present overview of WG's recommendations

Strengthening social Support Systems in WV

Erica: companion to copy you already have

[see slide presentation for what these speakers are reading from and referring to]

revised grant application

Andy:  all parts just as will

$75K median income; $25K higher than MetroV; 20% over 80; 1/3 srs live alone; 12% families lone parent

22.6% ?

28% English not first; 26% difficulties

Erica: success story WV-based: NSh Volunteers for Seniors est'd in 1961

outreach -- over 100 volunteers; partnerships; av age of clients they serve is 85

Andy:  maximize for benefit of cmnty

Vision; Guiding Principles; innovative and flexible

Cmnty Grants: simplified; info session done this year and successful; Overall Recommendations

Andy: we're not experts; modest recommendations; focus WV needs; use work of our WG; change and emphasis

Action for Cmnty: get involved; proactive cmte is a healthy cmnty, integral to sust

ask Ccl to act on these recommendations; remember that social well-being does mean a sust cmnty

thank Ccl

Andy: delightful Anne and Bill

Sop: thank you for all that; some of us hv bn on WGs; give their.... brilliance

these ppl introduced tonight; my vision and took a lot from these folks; in report not hand out for dollar; may come; hope won't it stay on shelf... take credit, one bright star, many bright stars

Anne Mooi  -- on ChildCare; guides us through; great credit to ....

Mayor: any Qs?  I have one; conclude? ongoing?

Andy: told to look at grants, vision; if going forward, wd leave to Ccl's wisdom; some evolved form of WG to do that

Mayor: commend you on report; outward-looking; our WGs have been successful in raising funds, ChildCare and ...

Sop moved: THAT

1.              Staff be directed to bring forward a Social Action Plan using the "Blueprint for Social Responsibility and Change - A Framework for a Social Action Plan", developed by the Community Grants/Social Services Working Group.

2.              Staff be directed to implement improvements to the community grants application and adjudication process, using the recommendations from this report.

PASSED

Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4567, 2008; Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4568, 2008; and Phased Development Agreement Authorization Bylaw No. 4569 (Rodgers Creek Area), 2008

CAO: plsd to intoduce; mbrs; first time Streamkeepers on

sev years; landowners, technical experts; benefit package will be discussed by Ccl

Geri Boyle: Grant has done a wonderful job of describing this

on May 5th Ccl directed staff to come back

two Open Houses; cmnty invited to come forward at workshop held earlier this year

resoln whether considered with ...  plan and waste mgmt

final comment on my report, have included an expanded public notification distance

will also be notification in newspaper, standard

RD: wd like to point out again, as CAO pointed out -- outstanding unanimous support of plan

including Streamkeepers' prez here this evening

move THAT opportunities provided for consultation on a proposed Rodgers Creek Official Community Plan amendment, with persons, organizations and authorities as outlined in the June 30, 2008 report from the Manager, Community Planning be endorsed as sufficient consultation for the purposes of Section 879 of the Local Government Act.

VV: surprised about haste going through

wd not be 129, wd be 69...; big difference; that means the fiscal impact was done with 300+

.... told original applic goes back to 1995

cdn't; proposal 2006; asked questions in 2007; answer just last week; suddenly tonight goes critical

needs to be postponed b/c no one has

Mayor: motion on floor is....  consultation

VV: need given time; different data; I'm suggesting at least a week, not years; reasonable time for new information

Sop: to set a date

Mayor: not there yet; another

Sop: Q on that

RD moved: THAT Official Community Plan Bylaw ... Amendment Bylaw, as attached to the report from the Manager, Community Planning dated June 30, 2008 be introduced and read a first time.

CARRIES

RD moved: THAT Official Community Plan Bylaw ... Amendment Bylaw, as attached to the report from the Manager, Community Planning dated June 30, 2008 has been [sic] considered in conjunction with the District's most recent financial plan and the regional waste management plan.

MOTION CARRIES

RD moved: THAT Zoning Bylaw  Amendment Bylaw, as attached to the report from the Manager, Community Planning dated June 30, 2008 be introduced and read a first time.

Sop: we're going to go through much at PH.

Sop: have stated over the years; I'd like to proceed to a PH and then proceed to where it is

VV: if not solve the problems; interesting PH; didn't get anywhere

not enough of main questions cd be answered; get hung up in the Hearings

BUT CARRIES

RD: move THAT Phased Development Agreement Authorization Bylaw No. 4569 (Rodgers Creek Area), 2008, as attached to the report from the Manager, Community Planning dated June 30, 2008 be introduced and read a first time.

CARRIED

RD: move THAT the Municipal Clerk be directed to give statutory notice that a Public Hearing regarding [all above] ... is scheduled for Monday, July 28 at 7pm.

VV: same; public don't appreciate in summer so move to Sept

Mayor: one problem travel plans; here in July; it's only second PH on 28th

given tremendous amt of work by working group; not knowing...

RD: move THAT statutory notice be expanded beyond 100m of the lands proposed for rezoning and include the lands shown on the map in Appendix A attached to the report from the Manager, Community Planning dated June 30, 2008.

Mayor: VV no

VV: move [didn't quite catch -- deferral???]

Mayor: given two mbrs of cmte here

6.         Community Engagement Committee - Status Report (deferred from the June 9, 2008 Council meeting)

JF moved: THAT

1.              Council approve the amended Working Group Guidelines as attached, and

2.              Council direct the Community Engagement Committee to report back by October 2008 with a recommended approach regarding the following:

-     Working Group Orientation Process

-     How to evaluate and budget accordingly for adequate staff resources to support Working Groups, including distinguishing between senior staff facilitation and clerical staff administrative support

-     Meeting space requirements for Working Groups and subgroups

[3.]            Council clarify the role of [an elected trustee] and School District 45 staff in the Working Group Guidelines

[4.]              Council amend the Community Engagement Committee Terms of Reference to include the Chief Administrative Officer or his designate to the Committee.

intent not to allow for closed sessions; there will be no closed mtgs; not always been the case throughout the year

Sop: have had opp to work on three; watched citizens come together, engage, provide expertise

citizens being involved; making recommendations to this Ccl; quite a process and a very good one

we had an adv commission process; got too heavy, laid down, just stopped working

not bothered whether Select Cmte or WG, but did we get valuable feedback by the public

and I think we have

secondly, when in a situation as Cclr Clk had this evening

I've had...  finite,... no minutes, don't vote so how conflict really?

JF: having worked on both Select Cmtes and WGs; entered into WG process rather skeptical; like VV, frankly not much

staff find it considerably less onerous; posting, minutes being adopted; v time consuming; allowing us to do more work; v gd change

JC: agree with Cclr JF.  Biggest and strongest diff I've noticed, tone of those mtgs

as to 4.5 the Housing WG; we encountered a situation there was information that cd hv been used against a mbr of the public and a mbr of staff; we did go into closed session

can be dealt with [other ways?]

lot of work from Alex, Patti, Carolanne

VV: [Cclr F said about mbrs] Standing having three, but Select has one mbr of Ccl

none precluded in Select Cmt structure

everything described cd be happening; seems to have been a change without any substance or ...

as distinct from Select Cmte

JC: Select Cmte were not ...

wd go on and on; at least WGs are focused... turning out; a year, sometimes three months

MS: the National Safety Code; not allowed to work more than 15 hours a day; CAO with a 30-mile drive.

7.         UBCM Local Planning Grant Application to Update the North Shore Emergency Social Services Plan

VV moved (I think, since things started to get rushed here, after 11:10pm): THAT DWV submit an Emergency Planning Grant application to the UBCM to update the North Shore Emergency Social Services (ESS) Plan and to provide familiarization workshops for volunteers and staff ESS Team.

MClk: Item 9

8. Consent Agenda Items - Reports/Correspondence (may be considered separately or in one recommendation).

REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA

9.         Development Variance Permit Application 08-019 (6460 Rosebery Avenue)

MS move THAT the report dated June 27 [entitled] DVP Application be scheduled for consideration on July 21

VV: my understanding can't rule on something already ruled on by Bd of Variance, so not clear

entitled subseq entitled to come to us

have to go for judicial review; they went to Bd of Variance; don't understand we can entertain this.  I'll leave it at that.

Mayor: certainly they may come to Ccl as a recourse, and Mr Sokol, as Dir of Planning, wd not be writing this report if it were something that Ccl were not able to entertain, wch is separate from what everybody's opinion may be wrt the substance of the report.

So the question is to set the date for July 21st.

All those in favour? opposed?  Carries.

Motion to adjourn?  second?

1.   APPROVAL OF AGENDA

2.   ADOPTION OF MINUTES

3.         Ipsos Reid Public Affairs Survey - Quality of Life and Financial Planning in the District of West Vancouver

Presentation from C. Knaus, Ipsos Reid Public Affairs, to be received for information.

4.         Community Dialogue on Neighbourhood Character and Housing - Phase III Report

Report from the Senior Community Planner ... dated June 26, 2008, to be received for information.

5.         Community Centre Society - Principles for Operation

RECOMMENDED THAT:

6.         Gordon Avenue and Neighbourhood Area Traffic and Streetscape Study - Implementation Plan Phase 2

        RECOMMENDED: THAT Council direct staff to proceed with implementation of Phase 2

7.         Transport 2040 (A Transportation Strategy for Metro Vancouver, Now and in the Future)

RECOMMENDED: THAT Council advise TransLink that they are concerned with the affordability of the Transport 2040 plan and that they are particularly concerned about the continued and possible increased reliance on property tax as a funding source.

8.         Greenhouse Gas Emissions Research in West Vancouver and the British Columbia Climate Action Charter

RECOMMENDED:  THAT

1.              Council approve ratification by the District of West Vancouver of the British Columbia Climate Action Charter.

2.              Council encourage staff to continue with the exploration of projects designed to mitigate the effects of climate change.

9.         Bear Abatement Measures - Solid Waste Utility Bylaw No. 4118, 1998, Amendment Bylaw No. 4511, 2008

RECOMMENDED: ... be read a first, second, and third time.

        RECOMMENDED:  ...  be read a first, second, and third time.

        RECOMMENDED:    ...  be read a first, second, and third time.

12.       General Local Elections Regulations Bylaw No. 4447, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4571, 2008; and Automated Vote Counting System Authorization and Procedure Bylaw No. 4139, 1999, Amendment Bylaw No. 4572, 2008

RECOMMENDED:  be read a first, second, and third time.

13.       Special Meeting on July 28, 2008 (File:  0120-01)

RECOMMENDED: ... be held immediately after the Public Hearing (which commences at 7pm).

14.      Consent Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence

15.       Vancouver Port Authority - Lease Extension for use of rock groynes at Ambleside/Capilano River Mouth

This item was deferred from the July 7, 2008 Council Meeting.

RECOMMENDED:  be received.

16.       Grand National Trail - Use by Cypress Bowl Recreations Limited Partnership for Cross Country Ski Purposes - Licence Extension

This item was deferred from the July 7, 2008 Council Meeting.  RECOMMENDED: ... be received.

(63 - 69)   July 1, 2008, regarding Spirit Trail [and some undated]

18. REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS   19. PUBLIC QUESTIONS/COMMENTS   20. ADJOURNMENT

by Jeffrey Rudolph

22/06/08 "ICH" -- - The Israel-Palestine conflict resonates deeply with many people. Opinions are sharply divided and generally unchangeable. However, as a member of a mainstream Israeli peace group, I often encounter opinionated people who are ignorant of many basic facts. And, while much concerning the conflict remains disputed, there are important, undisputed facts which must underlie any coherent opinion.

Therefore, in the spirit of Senator Daniel Moynihan of New York, who used to remind people that "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts," I have designed the below quiz which may lead some to reexamine their misconceived opinions. (Indeed, I will deem the quiz a success if it merely reduces the number of times I hear the common refrains of: "the land was empty before the Jews came" and "Barak made a generous offer at Camp David.")

While it is undoubtedly true that carefully selected facts alone do not constitute an informed opinion, answers to the following questions should not be ignored if one is to understand the Israel-Palestine conflict. And, while a strong commitment to a cause can blind some people to contrary facts, I appeal to such people through the words of the famous British economist, John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

These Police Comments were taken off actual police car videos around the country. Thank goodness, in spite of the perils of the job, they still have a sense of humor! [no U b/c forwarded from US]

1.  "You know, stop lights don't come any redder than the one you just went through."

2.  "Relax, the handcuffs are tight because they're new. They'll stretch after you wear them a while."

3.  "If you take your hands off the car, I'll make your birth certificate a worthless document."

4.  "If you run, you'll only go to jail tired."

5.  "Can you run faster than 1200 feet per second?  Because that's the speed of the bullet that'll be  chasing you."

6.  "You don't know how fast you were going? I guess that means I can write anything I want to on the  ticket, huh?"

7.  "Yes, sir, you can talk to the shift supervisor, but I don't think it will help. Oh, did I mention that I'm the shift supervisor?"

8.  "Warning! You want a warning? O.K, I'm warning you not to do that again or I'll give you another ticket."

9.  "The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?"

10.  "Fair? You want me to be fair? Listen, fair is a place where you go to ride on rides, eat cotton candy and corn dogs, and step in monkey poop."

11.  "Yeah, we have a quota. Two more tickets and my wife gets a toaster oven."

12.  "In God we trust, all others we run through NCIC."

13.  "How big were those 'two beers' you say you had?"

14.   "No sir, we don't have quotas anymore. We used to, but now we're allowed to write as many tickets as we can."

15.  "I'm glad to hear that the Chief (of Police) is a personal friend of yours. So you know someone who can  post your bail."

AND THE WINNER IS....

16.  "You didn't think we give pretty women tickets? You're right, we don't. Sign here."

>  Michael Jordan: If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up.  Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

>  Adlai Stevenson: Man is a strange animal.  He generally cannot read the handwriting on the wall until his back is up against it.

>  Albert Einstein: We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.

>  FOR THE ENGINEERS:

>  Zen saying: There is no God and you were invented by him.

>  As Dave Barry said: You can only be young once but you can be immature forever.

>  How do you kill a Circus?

                Er, you go for the Juggler.....