WVM2008-22
NOTES July 14
AGENDA July 21
Calendar to July 31st

by Carolanne Reynolds, Editor
www.WestVan.org

Monday's Mysteries:
IN THIS ISSUE:
MAIN ITEMS July 21st:  PUBLIC HEARINGS: 445-13th 7pm; Ambleside Town Ctr 7:30pm
Then: Healthy Living; Amb Town Ctr; DVP 6460 Rosebery; Cmnty Sport WG Interim Report; HBay Firehall Site; Park Exchange Caulfeild Plateau (Martin Corp); Cmnty Ctr Loan Authorization (Item 10, info to be supplied!); Fees and Charges for Fire and Rescue Permits and Services; Bylaws for Adoption (Solid Waste Utility; Election; Voting; Water Utility Loan Authorization; Road Closure (nbr buys M land for $200K); Ambulance Stn 1542 Fulton; Correspondence (Traffic Safety; letter 5 re sale of M land figs; Ambleside; Spirit Trail)
Vive le Canada; from the EDITOR'S DESK; HERITAGEWATCH; THEATREWATCH; NEWSWATCH
=  CALENDAR to July 31st (check for changes and updates)
=  Ccl NOTES July 14th: Survey on Quality of Life and Financial Planning in DWV; Housing Dialogue (Status) Report; Cmnty Ctr Society -- Principles for Operation (listed); Gordon Ave Traffic Implementation Plan; MetroV's Transportation Strategy (DWV concern about possible property tax);  Greenhouse Gas Research and BC Climate Action Charter; Bear Abatement Measures, Solid Waste Utility Bylaws (three readings); Water Utility Loan Authorization Bylaw (three readings); Community Centre Loan Authorization Bylaw  (WITHDRAWN); Bylaws re local election; Lease extension mouth of Capilano River; Cypress Bowl Trail Licence Extension; Deferred Correspondence and oodles more on the Spirit Trail
=  Ccl AGENDAS July 21st: two PHs and a ccl mtg!
=  Sunset; Quotations; Silly Section/Question

=== Vive le Canada ===  and Paul McCartney celebrating Quebec City's 400th!
.... from the EDITOR'S DESK
-- Dashing MLA Sultan in period costume for the BC 150 vintage steam train.
-- There are about 1500 live-in nannies from the Philippines here in WV.
===   HERITAGEWATCH   ===
** Battlefields, wrecks and abbeys 'at risk'
The BBC's Nick Higham looks at some of England's scheduled ancient monuments facing a threat to their future.  < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/7494284.stm >
** Info on the Cmnty Heritage Register: http://www.westvancouver.ca/article.asp?a=5274&c=1021
===   THEATREWATCH   ===
Haven't seen TUTS yet, getting ready for fireworks, a highlight of Vancouver's summer.
Do see Bard on the Beach, www.bardonthebeach.org or call 739 0559
===   NEWSWATCH   ===
Zimbabwe's inflation rate is reported now at 2.2M% but some say four times that; German company may stop shipping the paper to make the notes......

===  CALENDAR to July 31st  === [at Hall unless otherwise noted; pls confirm to make sure no changes]
Farmers' Markets: Dundarave Sat, Ambleside Sun; Concerts by the Sea Sunday evenings, Ambleside Landing
== Tues July 22nd ==
        ~ 5pm ~ Finance Cmte   
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Measuring Up WG (Srs' Ctr, A-V room)
== Wed July 23rd ==  ~ 5pm ~ Environment WG in Peters Room, Library
== Thurs July 24th ==   ~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte
                        ~ 5:30pm ~ Police Bd mtg (Police Dept Boardroom)       

***  Don't forget RoyalTea-by-the-Sea Dundarave Park Sat 2pm Aug 2nd (922 4400)  ***
             
+++  WV MEMORIAL LIBRARY +++  see www.westvanlib.org
        The Library is closed Sundays July through Labour Day.
Gallery at the Library presents...   June 2 to July 31
        Photographs: Recent work by Rob Will, Laura Clark, Michelle Demers, and Roman Kralovic.
Fridays -- 10:30 - noon -- English Corner -- Practise English conversation. Every Friday, from now until August 30. Elizabeth Musto Room. For info call: Fariba Rocker, 604 506 6616.
 +++  FERRY BUILDING GALLERY  +++  June 24 - July 27
MOVE OVER, LEONARDO !  --  John Martin Gilbert  --  Fine Art, Fine Fun  --  Kinetic sculptures, inventions, fountains, Expo 86 projects, TV ads, home-brew experiments, zany demo tapes, and even a naughty book!
+++ SILK PURSE +++  (1570 Argyle) www.silkpurse.ca
July 8 - 27, 2008 -- "Purse-suit of Hattiness"
WVCAC: Silk Purse is celebrating their 40th anniversary with an innovative exhibition of hats and purses by some of the North Shore's leading artists, Bonnie Adie, Nell Burns, Ruth Casselman, Irena Eacott, Louisa Leibman, Connee Little, Susie Morris, Judy Oke, Pauline Sherry, Michelle Sirois-Silver, Liz Smily, Carolyn Thorpe, and Anne Vuillamy.
+++  WV MUSEUM +++  Visit: http://www.westvanmuseum.blogspot.com/
Selwyn Pullan -- Position the New -- Photographs from 1945 -1975 [CLOSES Sept 20]
This retrospective demonstrates the photographer's intimate connection to the development of modernism on the West Coast of Canada and highlights the social, economic, and cultural forces that changed the face of Vancouver and the region during the post-war boom.

+++ Don't forget to check out www.kaymeekcentre.com +++

=== CCL NOTES July 14th ===
1.   APPROVAL OF AGENDA
          Amended: 13.1 re Rodgers Crk proposed Cmnty benefits be added; and that 11 be withdrawn
2.   ADOPTION OF MINUTES -- none
REPORTS
3.         Ipsos Reid Public Affairs Survey - Quality of Life and Financial Planning in the District of West Vancouver
Presentation from C. Knaus, Ipsos Reid Public Affairs, to be received for information.  Patricia Leslie introduced C Knaus.
CK: methodology [slides]
overall pulse and mood of the city; hope help District make decisions
random tel survey; interviewing between April 17 and 18, margin of error 5.7% + or -
second year District has done this so can track; we do surveys across BC and Canada so can look at norms
Key Findings -- ppl generally happy and satisfied; generally satisfied, receive good value for taxes
some issues wd like addressed: growth and social concerns; general growth, density, character, Ambleside, affordable housing
Citizens prefer tax increases to service cuts; gap lessening from last year so tolerance is
highest support for corporate sponsorships
six of ten had visited the DWV website over past year
99%  good or v good -- norm is 66%
66% here rather than 42% elsewhere -- perceptions
Most important:
top: growth and social services; growth, housing, density, overdevt, lack of housing; seniors' issues
growth, social, and taxes; less likely to mention crime
transportation and growth; some improvements in transportation over past year
96% satisfied; no major areas in need of improvement
Value for Taxes good/v good 86%
33% last year to 25% this year at v good
increase taxes or service cuts, tolerance has gone down
corp sponsorship, opposed to paid parking and gambling revenues
Demand for budget information tops list (14% then District planning 9%, Financial budet 7%
58% have been to District website, norm elsewhere 44%; slight increase in traffic to website
Sop: expanded beyond paid parking?  with WV residents exempt?
weekend use of parks up, packed; free for WV residents with stickers?
Ans: syndicated so same at every one; you do a particular one ev three years
Sop: issue facing cmnty, growth net?
Ans: general growth and devt; concern around density, impression of lack of planning, sense of over devt, concern about Ambleside as well.
Mayor: BC statistics, WV's popn declined .6% last year; interesting perception vs reality
[7:18]
4.         Community Dialogue on Neighbourhood Character and Housing - Phase III Report
        Report from the Senior Community Planner ... dated June 26, to be received for information.
JC: Phase 3 report: Christine Banham, Chair; Andy K, VCh, staff Stephen Mikicich
SM: Cmnty Survey in May 2008 [introduces mbrs of the WG who were in audience]
VP of Synovate also here to answer questions
CB: this is our third time here
Our WG has designed a prog of cmnty engagement in their own preferred format
[listed public forums, open houses, and workshops; displays; presentations to local groups such as WRA]
Here to talk about our latest survey; last time about our workshops
KEY THEMES: change is constant and one size no longer fits all
from family homes to extended families and smaller families
how is new housing fitting in with existing nbrhds
WVites want to see a wider choice of housing and affordability, empty nesters
affordable housing closer to all the amenities
how meet with established nbrhds, character
Andy K: next phase: detailed survey for more focused input; ideas and directions as identified by the survey
housing choice and affordability, quality, xxxxxx
WV Survey July 4 Synovate
May 2008, samples size 654; report is Appendix A
Findings provide further confirmation what found through Cmnty Dialogue
CB: greater variety of housing choices 84%
gaps: seniors-oriented 71%; for young fams 54%; affordable housing options 51% accessible/adaptable housing assisted-living green buildings 60%
majority looking for:
up to 1000sf 37%; 1 - 1200 62%; 1500 - to 2K 36%; over 2K sf 9%; need for smaller housing units
{since typing while they were speaking, pls check slides and/or get/read report}
How:
legal secondary suites 74%; duplexes 64%; 61% infill; 53% two modest houses on one lot as an alternative to one large house, townhouses 50%
came in on district-wide; strong support for housing more modest
AK: Nbrhd Character
new houses seen as too big 63%; 84% want reduction of site coverage; 69% on allowable FAR; xxx
concern about blasting, walls, hardpaving
fit with natural features, minimal modification
decrease amt of permitted soil rock removal 41%; Altamont Bayridge XXX ###52%
TREES important for nbrhd character; 71% - 63% - 62%
{trees/views, overlapping amts; want for character but want removed for view; IMO they shd hv had an option for windowing, thus trees stay to stabilize soil and absorb/retain water while providing view and keeping character; had recommended that be in the questions; wasn't.}
incentives: 79% support designing with nature initiatives; 56% green bldg technologies, 41% decrease in soil/rock removal
Nbrhd Heritage
73% concerned about loss of heritage resources xxxxx
CB: confirmed a lot of what we heard; gave figs; what we'd heard all along, try out; some hesitant
support pilot projects?  81% yes
ideas they'd like to try out: design with nature 70%; env sust design construction 65%; 59% pilot project two modest houses on one lot; 50% infill housing as an incentive for heritage conservation
"we don't know factor" want to see what it looks like
AK: Nbrhd Qualities, Features and Amenities
strengthen sense of cmnty mini isolation and safety: 69% enhancement of ped/cycling connections; 68% more access/adaptable housing age in place; 61% range of housing options in existing for more diverse popn; 60% incentives for retention and adaptation of contemp housing needs
Village Ctrs or Nodes
new housing types shd be introduced where services and amenities are in place
provided in established nbrhds
70% support concept of modest of service ctres 70% above Hwy 1; public transit xxx
Alternative Travel Modes: add'l smaller shuttle buses 74%; more freq 53%; peds 60%; cyclists 57%
Sop: final recomms in fall expect; a lot here common place, ppl phoning and talking about what's happening in their nbrhds.
I've been on a few; this is probably the most important doc to come out of a WG
find survey a little misleading xxxxxx
80% of the residents and that's not what this doc says xxx
a greater xxx new housing types
next page; comment about housing types, 62% said no comment
47% of 654 ppl, roughly 307, xxx said no change
have to be v careful b/c vital to us
delivery has profound effect on our cmnty for a long time; good work; I find this doc a little confusing
CB: survey not a referendum; will refer to Mary of Synovate
Mary: over 1300; and sent to those who participated last time
1385, 654 respondents took part in the survey on line or mailed a survey
done by self so xxx
first to admit a lot of info; had choice to read through some or none of
definitely some who answered all...
of 654 some 400+ took trouble to write down
if time, money, or budget to contact ev in District wd probly get a diff xxx
+or- 4% error
survey only one part of puzzle; ev can critique; sample of 600 is pretty good; polling across the nation, most not more than 1500
take/use with other sources to make an informed decision
qualitative, workshops and forums, put some hard numbers
84% cd be 86% or 79% but gives you some numbers
Sop: question arose about alternate housing types; an issue before us for a long time is affordability; we do understand alternate sizes imp -- whether sec suites or carriage houses -- I hope you have examined the word affordability; in this cmnty as to how this wd be devpd
housing go up at current prices -- xxxxx   what is affordability?
we know 1500sf at today's costs not affordable
CB: land value makes a lot not affordable right now; yes, looking at
not undermined by market high
a lot of ppl here own their own house, but still have problem finding another -- and not be out of pocket 7:50
a lot of diff challenges but there are opps for Ccl to take leadership; final report will address that
AK: as Mary mentioned, when we come to you with our final rec, hope by end of Sept
indicators; affordability comes up from diff angles; to afford, to have chn stay in cmnty
not going to come up with something for ev issue, but indicators, something Ccl can work on
VV: interesting two surveys the same evening; Ipsos and Synovate
infill housing, the v things ppl complaining about; interesting conundrum to deal with
agree with Cclr Sop's afford; somebody who has to pay more than 30% of income, not affordability; smaller housing $800 a sq ft, is that affordable?
CB: depends on individ
JF: I found that the info contained in this absolutely fascinating
%age of indiv nbrhds, responding whether own nbrhd suitable for two houses or triplexes
Is this survey public? can residents tap into this on website?
SM: the survey is posted on line as part of the agenda
will be as soon as the new website is launched, any moment
JF: luck of the draw
Mary: sample of residents from 2007 cmnty survey who took part
that survey had some questions about housing and devt, however survey that went out had an amazing amt of info; don't think av person knows about infill but a lot of info in it; cd read all or some wd just flip to first; not talking to everyone in a survey; indicators, helping you drill down, next steps
JF: Ipsos Reid, v high concern about growth when declined whereas here xxx
Mary: stat for growth is net growth in one bin; net means not double-counting ppl; in this survey we focused on an issue
Mayor: does this conclude?
CB: just an opp for questions.
Next Steps: during July Aug, review al input and devp recom; present WG report to Ccl, anticipate mid-September
expect enhancing OCP policies, updating reg bylaws to address character issues and provide new housing types; pilot projects; District leadership; continuing the dialogue and future participation
Recommendations will be passed to staff
SM: staff report..... ; further public input; implementation time line
RD: 1385 in pool, 654; self-selection, those who care took time to reply
pretty well conform to what I'm hearing; ppl concerned about growth but WV not growing
hit nail on head, ..... size of new homes, dbl cars...  but there isn't any growth
concerned about intrusion; concerned about size, moving out of large to small but can't find them; want them to fit into WV; all pretty well fits in with OCP....
odd kind of paradoxes; trees, want to keep treed atmosphere but want to cut them down for views
think your survey on ...
MS, looking at watch: cognizant of time, we're on item 3 and we've got 20
if recomm in Sept, not expect acting on something; this Ccl, three years, and spinning wheels
SM: some Ccl may choose to act on right away
WG will identify priorities; will be an opp for Ccl to act quickly
CB: know we can make any recomm we choose to but xxx...  amt of time; going to Ccl; that helps to answer
Mayor: further cmnty dialogue; proceed with caution; strongly for pilot projects now a green light to xxx ...  with Heritage; this v sophisticated; steps cd take, strong ground ...
JC: Ccl may decide to morph this group into an implementation group
thank ..... for presentation.
Mayor: have one mbr of public
John Bannister:  live at Madrona Cr where have been for 40 years
volunteer with Habitat for Humanity; want to go beyond Bby where building 27 units
HforH nonprofit, volunteer labour and materials, low income families can become owners
sweat equity, noprofit interest-free home mortgage; funds used to build future homes
H4H presently building 27 townhouses in Bby
asking Ccl if they'd give some consideration if some land cd be donated or sold at a reasonable price so that this process might continue in WV; happening all over the world
able to provide for a small number of ppl six, or eight, on a small site, a great contribution
5.         Community Centre Society - Principles for Operation [8:09]
RECOMMENDED THAT:
1.              Council endorse the concept of community recreation facilities operated jointly by the District and a non-profit Society on a collaborative basis, and that the initial scope, encompass the Community Centre and the Aquatic Centre at the Civic Centre site.
2.              In collaboration with the interim Board, a staff person be assigned by the District with responsibility to operate the facilities, reporting to both the District and the Society.
3.              The Society role be emphasized as adding value to the operation, and the definition of governance in the agreement cover strategic direction and policy, focusing on community services programs including program provision, space allocation, communications, marketing and fund raising.
4.              The Society participate in development of the facility financial plans and in oversight of the approved budget for the facilities.
5.              The initial term of the agreement between the two parties be set at two years with successive renewal terms of 5 years based on the satisfaction of both.
6.              The agreement between the two parties include provision for the Society role to expand to other community recreation facilities and functions over time based on consultation on and approval by Council.
7.              The scheduled 'transition work plan' be approved outlining the activities of the Board and leading to implementation of the society's function in the fall of 2009.
8.              The interim Board be advised that Council supports the incorporation of a society for the governance of the new Community Centre.
9.              Staff be directed to bring forward in September of 2008, the draft Joint Operating Agreement.
Barbara Brink, Chair of WG: [slides] challenge was to add value...... leverage resources
one of the great things about this model is that will be pro-active, added value
ev new, new approaches, asking public to come forward with ideas; cmnty innovation, learning,  three-way partnership (users, staff, board); inclusiveness, xxxxx
est'd founding Bd of Directors [listed on slide, stood to applause]
Board Attributes: spectrum of skills; passionate about WV, highly motivated; met eight times in ten weeks
Scope of Responsibilities: planning and operation of the Cmnty Ctr and Aq Cr
jt planning and consultation; roles and resps defined in a Jt Operating Agreement
intent scope will increase over time
Months of jt effort produced the agreement; receiving final vetting by legal dept
discussions v frank, helped us move ahead rapidly
Jt Operating Agreement [listed on slide]; roles shared and also delegated
District infrastructure and HR; Society programming and budget; but all of this collaborative
Transition: work plan devpd; transition 2009, implementation Sept 2009
Bd Cmtes: six: finance, added value and policy HR and volunteers; communication; programming; governance
Board Task Groups: Society mbrship, events, constitution and bylaws
Group looking at opening week and another on bylaws
Thank Ccl and District
Bd committed to highest standards of consultation, transparency, and accountability 8:18
Recommendations
[LISTED ABOVE; move or where taken as read and SSch says yes}
Mayor: questions?
Sop: later, once I get going will be accused of making a speech
Mayor: can
Sop: but divided so can ask Mr McRadu
Mayor: not sure it makes sense
Sop: Mr McRadu, item 4, budget but in printout states that Society will participate in District's regular budget process -- Mr Laing conducts or xxxxx
CAO: you've been able to pick out an item that goes beyond what is written
the intent of the Cmnty Ctr is to run the Ctr and Aq; intent is to shadow our budget process so they can understand how developed; hope the following year help develop budget, in no way intend to participate in the budget process; just in the Cmnty Cr
you are correct; cd be worded differently; wasn't intent to be involved directly with budget
Sop: no problem shadowing ... ; spent hour with lady today who heads up Parkgate
Mayor: want to get motion on floor
Sop: they raise [funds]; some 300 volunteers and a two to one formula raising
what I'm saying, through our budgeting process, here's your budget for the year, here's what Society has to live with, what have you done ....
a little low or high; an op system that has been successful; formulating xxxx
CAO: correct, is modeled on Parkgate.... truly outstanding; looking for their support
at this point in time, their staff, work with our staff..... normally done
they will train them their budget, probably not that different
key is they'll be able to add value, money ....
Mayor: wd you like to put motion on the floor
Sop: a question?
Mayor: but motion on floor then we can all be part of the discussion
[Sop read above, recommended motion]
Mayor: discussion
Sop: now expanded to another operation, Aquatic Ctr
KPike:have to try to envision what this bldg will look like
no longer a campus; CCtr joined to Aq with atrium, services both; staff mbr assigned will be resp for both as well as being resp to the bd; made sense bd and staff work together; made obvious sense discussing this
Sop: at this point do you have any indicators of the combined budget of the two ctrs?
KP: net and gross of both; we're probably talking in the range of gross expenditure of $5M, net is hard to know; perhaps net of $2M
Sop: when we sit down and budget, in range of $7M net
KP: no, $2M with gross $5M, cd be more
expected a 50% increase with Aq Cr and we got about 200% increase
net will be in range of $2M
VV: wd like to add the skating facility; wd like new board to have skating rink as well
get letters nothing to do, want something to do; why not ice rink, parties there for young?
Mayor: may I have a seconder so we can discuss
[NO RESPONSE]
Not to say not important
Sop: second
VV: the public who subsidize that ice rink, no opp to use it, always programmed -- maybe have it open at least Sat nights; this bd the very ppl to address this problem
MS: mystifies me how we make decisions; no staff report, no fiscal analysis; no xxx from Ms Brink
sit down and try to .... at the 11th hour; doesn't make sense; not going to support it
[checking watch again}
it's now 25 to 9; wd like to see us vote on these sound recommendations and move on
JF: suggestion too soon in process; agreement shd have passed; allow ..... to review and revise
when Ccl and cmnty feel comfortable; while exciting and looking forward; but shd allow bd of dirs, outlines here; other facilities; how this new governance model works so not forced on any of the other facilities; it's the timing
RD: our family has tried to do some public skating and cdn't, not much, even Sat night; shd look at that
tonight Aq Ctr, big enough; Ice under aegis as well but xxx
Mayor: this anticipates looking at the ice arena; tonight being asked to look at Cmnty Ctr and Aq
at this time call vote on adding ice rink
[fails]
JF: wd like to thank Ms Brink and bd of directors; done a fabulous job. xxx
like opp for flexibility, review with Ccl ....; will be watching with great interest, with public
expect your mtgs will be public, opp for public to sit in and [comment? participate?]
CAO: I've sat in on all or many of the WGs so far; found the dedication outstanding
want to thank you and your board, M Brink for energy. xxx
new process for us; commit to our partners, including WVMEA; work as partners; work with staff, best interests for citizens
Mayor: experience of our citizens and xxx of our staff
Ccl shd be congratulated.  Vote.  Motions carries.  Well done
6.         Gordon Avenue and Neighbourhood Area Traffic and Streetscape Study - Implementation Plan Phase 2
RECOMMENDED: THAT Council direct staff to proceed with implementation of Phase 2
RFung: bring to this Ccl before proceeding
proceeded with phase one, curb extensions, measures around PJ school; now here for curb xxx
21st and Fulton roundabout; asked a question about safety and now staff confident roundabout safer than four-way stop wch had 40% non compliance
wd like to have this constructed before Cmnty Ctr opens; funding in place for current year; wish direction from Ccl to proceed
VV: it is referring to a study, not an installation
RF: 2006 was a study, proceeded with first phase of improvement, now implementing xxx
JC: don't dispute stats re roundabout; in CNV they've installed a series of temporary doughnuts to prove they do work
RF: the District has had experience with roundabouts already, eg HBay; in terms of traffic, working well, just ensuring radius sufficient for truck movements
wrt roundabouts, high level of success at other locations; have not recommended an interim step of phased roundabout
JC: this is a much busier location and will become busier; rather than leaping to execution, might be good to put a temporary one in there
RD: think roundabouts a good idea, four-way stops; concerned about bulges -- good at PJ
more traffic Gordon, Esquimalt, ... tendency is to widen, not narrow.  In fact doesn't go fast, goes slowly and slowing it down more seems xxx
my reaction, a lot of traffic, widen it, left and right turn lanes, not narrow it
remain skeptical; good around schools but where heavy traffic, not so sure
Sop: Inglewood down to Fulton on 21st, any consideration for new lighting?
RF: lighting according to standards
Sop: night, trees, not apparent higher up lower down
RF: not aware lighting levels a concern
Mayor: one concern, they force cyclists to go around them; this Ccl is committed to cycling
RF: yes
RD: bulges take away parking, needed; take a second look, maybe a traffic light
JF: to allay concerns, the Gordon Traffic study, huge amt of resident input
7.         Transport 2040 (A Transportation Strategy for Metro Vancouver, Now and in the Future)
RECOMMENDED: THAT Council advise TransLink that they are concerned with the affordability of the Transport 2040 plan and that they are particularly concerned about the continued and possible increased reliance on property tax as a funding source.
MS: small adjustment to motion; are opposed to the continued
this doesn't address our rage
scandalous; police, fire, roads, parks, cmnty cultural events, theatres, yet pay more prov guess you get health care and university, guess you get transportation; high assessed values...
in as strong as possible terms, say we're opposed; leftwingers in Victoria running around trying to think of ways to spend our tax dollars
Mayor: letter accompanying report, saying same thing, authored by Chair [Mayor] Diane Watts
Sop: this goes back even to the days when TransLink was formed... years ago, think when Cclr Smith was a young man.  We did not support property tax as a provision.
in the Mayors' position, was there consideration of a third prop tax, a third gas tax, and a third fare increase, and the balance of the capital must mean for survival of [inaudible] as far as WV's concerned that the province step up to the plate for all capital costs.  That be put forth.
Mayor: a lot of questions; the $14B long range plan not funded, that's a concern on the capital side
distressing in the report is that the operating budget not funded beyond 2012
at same time, fuel consumption falls b/c of the price; the TransLink 12 cents per litre gets and relies on, we are consuming less so fuel tax revenue is falling; they are concerned about establishing stable funding; we're concerned looking at prop
our position we must protect the tax room that we have, hard enough as it is; think they're hearing that..... loud and clear
Dale Parker fought not to move parking stall tax of $18M over to prop tax
this plan is ambitious and basically unfunded
Sop: was it considered? prov step up to plate in relationship to capital? prov must start funding capital; we cannot survive, Mr Manager, with an attachment on our prop tax with what we're facing on a local level; going to have a severe, severe, effect
JF: imp for us to support this amendment, your position,  and take this msg forward
with the Liberal party in BC wishing to reduce the carbon footprint of the prov as a whole... 80% reside in Lower Mainland
looking for less dependence on fossil fuels ..., find cleanr and greener source.
fund these improvements
[reduce] causing us to have this large carbon footprint
CAO: take a look and read letter from chair, Diane Watts,  p4? ....that is a warning bell, that is a LOUD warning bell
other levels of govt must take this into acct
can't have the system continue to operate the way it does
Sop: in anticipation of this, is there some road we can follow?
Mayor: the Mayors' Ccl is tangential to the Board; why focusing on prop taxes b/c we're not really part of the plan, let alone the funding formula; consulted from time to time, take ev opp we have
all cmnties asked to focus on these plans, laudable plan in terms of its goals, but wrt sufficient funding and appropriate funding, TransLink sees prop tax as appropriate, and we're here to say it's not.
MS: frustration, the solution is there; prov/fed govt cd solve entire carbon tax problem
mandate can't sell a vehicle in Canada unless you get 25 miles to the gallon
implement solns like that; technology is there -- diesel, battery, hybrid, xxx
get so annoyed our so-called political leaders, instead the you just put a tax on
can solve in a couple of years, solar power, wind power, nuclear power.....
madness ... can retrofit these SUVs so they run on electric power as well as gasoline
all this technology is here now and what do we get? -- a carbon tax!
AMENDED MOTION CARRIES
8.         Greenhouse Gas Emissions Research in West Vancouver and the BC Climate Action Charter
VV moved:  THAT
1.  Council approve ratification by the District of WV of the British Columbia Climate Action Charter.
2.  Council encourage staff to continue with the exploration of projects designed to mitigate the effects of climate change.
I have a question for the MMgr.  Item two encourages projects, If we don't put a financial number to spend, what taxpayer resources might be allocated?
CAO: looking at and exploring a number of projects, looking at but not allocated any tax dollars yet
RF: bldg improvements, changes to our fleet; devp biz case before proceeding with any project
KP: the inventory we carried out was really a first step; you'll see the beginning of it in this report
in Sept, see something in next couple of weeks; look at projects we'll take on, clear it's buildings and vehicles; those are the places we'll start
strong from Env WG about tapping edu side ....
but we'd have to come back to you; imp to know where we are now
Sop: We've embarked on initiatives on our own in this cmnty.....
the WG, through some expert, bring recommendation .... widely understood
Madam Mayor, you and I were at a Sea to Sky forum, already a plan
full of directives; specifically to WV, we know, the major components, residential, fuels, [transportation?]; automobile 14% wrt particulate matter in air just as much an effect
we've stopped burning and other practices
asking us to sign charter, states not a legal doc, we're already doing this, why not UBCM
why are we signing something that's not a legal doc
Mayor: interest stated that by...
making the voluntary, mandatory, so rather moot; won't be able to qualify for grants
water meters......trying to... to reduce our carbon foot print
of huge interest to Cmnty; offset
the envtal award, library reducing by 30%
where we want to be, benefit to taxpayer clear
...... serious criticism about ...  giving us each $100, shd hv bn a fund we cd avail ourselves of
Sop: think we already are and we're leaders
CARRIES
9.         Bear Abatement Measures - Solid Waste Utility Bylaw No. 4118, 1998, Amendment Bylaw No. 4511, 2008
RECOMMENDED: ... be read a first, second, and third time.
Pamela Manson: lived in WV for 55 years, 39, my nbr Ann; we're volunteers with Bear Aware
walking streets....nbrhds where bears more active
mandate of our society is to mitigate ....   putting education out
in our years of hundreds of doors and ppl, events, we get constant compliments of helping the bears
don't want bears on their prop but have nbrs who put their garbage out
bears v clever, way up by chimps; they know.....   they know strikes, national holidays
calls probably daily
from Seascape to Capilano River concern is about ppl who put  ....
nbr who's 90, put out
it's about those who are able who won't; nbrs complain constantly; no regard for wildlife
not to inconvenience; inconsiderate
they can sense garbage from one to two kms; actions of a few ppl ....
that's why Bear Society started; thank you for considering; residents with four legs and big hair
don't want bears killed, they do get habituated
[JC moved three readings b/c Mayor said cd debate either at second or third]
JC: I'm struggling with this -- after 5am but before 7:30am
you can put it out at 7am but won't be picked up for hours in some cases
who's going to enforce this? put out at 4am and some go to work that early
bylaw from 8am to 8pm; doesn't make sense????
KP: we've worked on this for months; 7:30am has been the bylaw for years
guarantee that will be picked up on that day....
virtually all bear calls are garbage calls and tend to be the same folks in the same nbrhds
Mayor: ?
KP: relatively small number of ppl, bylaw ofcrs can deal with
one piece of a whole ... of actions; agreed aboard BearSmart, one other step; definitely not a cure-all
VV: who's on patrol? the bear! -- then bylaw ofcrs take over, reasonable
JF: no difficulty with times; if you miss, that's your problem
will be occasional time out of town; never had problem nbr put out or assisting my nbr
a number of bylaws difficult to enforce
complaint, when ongoing and consistent
cosmetic pesticides, I cd creep out at night and spread who knows what
bylaw officers to find bylaw officers
RD:  spoke out against this last time, will be hard to enforce, hardship for some seniors
bears a problem don't want to
bears, then raccoons, then crows
sooner or later we're going to have to get our garbage out there
you'll find out when bins turned over; nbrs will notice
one bylaw officer told me call me anytime
I'll vote for this as a year trial period
KP: won't find you if out late, just may not get taken away
RD: appreciate Parks dealing with this; don't think alternative
PASSED
10.       Water Utility Loan Authorization Bylaw No. 4570, 2008 (File:  1610-20-4570)
RECOMMENDED:  ...  be read a first, second, and third time.
MS: support bylaw; same comment as last week
once complete review how executed against our objectives
cd learn things cd be done differently; once project finished, look at
$26M on water meters and Eagle lake and spent $1.5M water from GVRD; want to see at least a 20% capital return
not criticizing whole project; look back and see if done all as cd have done
Sop: you said acquisition of water has dropped, Mr Fung? and reduction in future?
whole scenario
RF: that's correct
Mayor: excellent suggestion and Mr Fung only too prepared to do that
11.       Community Centre Loan Authorization Bylaw No. 4573, 2008
        WITHDRAWN
12.       General Local Elections Regulations Bylaw No. 4447, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4571, 2008; and Automated Vote Counting System Authorization and Procedure Bylaw No. 4139, 1999, Amendment Bylaw No. 4572, 2008
BOTH TO THIRD READING
RD: does include vote by mail; good, a lot of WVites travel
CARRIES
13.       Special Meeting on July 28, 2008 (File:  0120-01)
         RECOMMENDED: ... be held immediately after the Public Hearing (which commences at 7pm).
CARRIES
ADDED TO AGENDA: 13.1  Rodgers Creek
RD: want to say one thing ...  nbrhd character and GHG research report
Rodgers Crk keeps 55% green fits in
specifically has to do with CBs, $7M; missed one, traffic improvements at 15th and 21st
[Received for information]
Mayor: that PH will be held July 28
Sop: here's another; PH 7pm; then sp mtg?
Mayor: two on 21st
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
14.      Consent Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence
REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA
15.       Vancouver Port Authority - Lease Extension for use of rock groynes at Ambleside/Capilano River Mouth
This item was deferred from the July 7, 2008 Council Meeting.  RECOMMENDED:  be received.
16.       Grand National Trail - Use by Cypress Bowl Recreations Limited Partnership for Cross Country Ski Purposes - Licence Extension
This item was deferred from the July 7, 2008 Council Meeting.  RECOMMENDED: ... be received.
Mayor: re Consent Agenda, Ccl can pull whatever
VV: letters 60 to 69 except 61 so with exception of those
Mayor: circle no 60 and that will stand for all
CORRESPONDENCE LIST FOR CONSENT AGENDA
17.       Correspondence List -- RECOMMENDED: be received for information. [listed in previous WVM]
+  Correspondence received up to July 4, 2008
(60)          July 2, 2008, regarding Spirit Trail
            Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.
VV: after the mtg at the Srs' Ctr, public wd like to know wch opinions on and off table
around rlwy 19th and 23rd, how long before know?
Mayor: was going to comment during Reports but this opp
abandoned between 19th and 24th
also heard that the vast majority, favour cycling, favour trail but don't want to be pitted against one another; Sept -- cd be WG
think coverage in media accurate except ppl really understand Ccl supports but we have to find how to make it work
Sop: wrt cycling; we want the Spirit trail; this is the right thing to do
18. REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS 
Sop: you and I attended Howe Sound Forum, attended by all the mayors and regional districts
we do in fact talk to each other
Howe Sound is a watershed Cclr Day, how beautiful the Sound is
one thing that came up ...  speeding [more with hwy improvements]
Mayor: Police Bd [discussion]
air quality; came close last year, not participate in anything outdoors
as a group, timely to be public about that
we feel we live in a region with such clean air; value clean air and clean water above all
good to see Howe Sound xxx
RD: where the bypass comes in just north of HBay, a ghastly sight; can see from all three ferries
now a hideous clearcut running almost a km all trees cut...  barbarians, not....
know we protested initially; write, ask what it's going to look like when finished
any plan to remediate this ghastly scene shd at least write; it's in our city limits, depreciating
Mayor: cd follow up with Min of Trans
JC: know July 1st seems a long time ago
wd like to comment fourth year fireworks, second year two barges
xxx years in a row with no incident on either side of the inlet
personally thank Christie O'krainitz; took over from predecessor, who left file in complete disarray Christie picked it up and ran with it flawlessly ...
Sop: and to you Cclr Clark; really enjoyed by [everyone]
JC: thx helping
19. PUBLIC QUESTIONS/COMMENTS  
> Michael Evison: wrt Amb pity Cclr Clark excluded; reason he had a biz; but to exclude one, poor judgement
JC: on whose part?
ME: whoever
JC: perceived [conflict of interest]; we asked for and received opinion from solicitors; chancy; actually decided before; feel strongly over what... to do; to risk that; then challenged down the road; back to sq one; waste a lot o time
ME: a lease
Mar: not to have a conflict, debate
ME: reconsideration of that before hearing
re pesticide, falling down; on MDr; national company spraying a whole row of trees
I drove by, may be irritation to throat and nose; if we have a ban, shd be strongly enforced
> CR: Editor, West Van Matters
Happy Bastille Day, etc
Anyway, before my couple of questions, I was wondering when you have your surveys, there's one question I'd like you to add and that is, when ppl say they wd like to have an increase in taxes rather than a cut in services, it's really important to ask HOW MUCH?
Secondly, with the garbage-collecting, rather than --- it might be an idea to actually, since you control when they come along to collect the garbage presumably, if they cd be the ones on a time limit rather than residents.
Anyway, it was quite a marathon last week.
Here are a couple of comments of background and information wrt some topics.
First is Rodgers Crk.
Last week Cclr Day stated that the WG recommendations were unanimously supported.  Without commenting on the proposed bylaw, may I clarify that Streamkeepers were pleased to be a member and to have Streamkeeper objectives and principles incorporated into the plan, but did not voice an opinion on density.  In addition, the Fiscal--
Mayor: --I think Cclr Day was talking about the WG mbrs; one was representing Streamkeepers but wasn't talking Streamkeepers.
CR: I know, but, well, but Streamkeepers said they didn't vote on it...
{then picking up on where she left off when interrupted:}
--the Fiscal Report, the final Traffic Report, and the Community Benefits Report were not presented until after the WG had stopped meeting, so they cd not have been considered by anyone on the WG.
Please don't misinterpret -- I think good work was done, my goal was just to set the record straight.
WORKING GROUPS
Comments were made by Cclr Ferguson that WGs take less staff time.  Actually at the forum with staff liaisons, they said that they wd like additional staff.  It may be that because Cclr Ferguson was the council liaison to a WG that met for about a year but only had one agenda (the first, introductory) and no notes at all--
Mayor:  --Excuse me. Do you have a question?
CR, rather taken aback: This is "Public Questions and Comments"
{continuing} [appear on that group's webpage,] so that definitely was less work but the no one else got to know what went on, contrary to the intention of WGs.
May I hasten to say--
Mayor: --I believe there was one mtg of the Ambleside that was held in camera, I think at the v beginning--
CR: I'm not talking about in camera.
{Perhaps the Mayor was anxious to reiterate that WG mtgs shd all be open even though just a week or so one held a closed portion contrary to the WG Guidelines, but that was not what I wanted to talk about b/c satisfied that the Mayor had confirmed her commitment to open mtgs -- as an aside, guess it's the monitoring to make sure the guidelines are followed is what needs more work on.}
Mayor: Well, I think it's important to be clear, and I'm not sure what your question is.
 CR: May I hasten to say that some WGs took the idea and ran with it so that mtgs, notes, and even reports are easily accessible, and the public was made to feel welcome and comfortable.
Cclr Vaughan wanted to know what the difference was between Select Cmtes and WGs.  The informality is one.
From my observations of Task Forces, advisory and other sorts of cmtes, and Working Groups -- it's humans and personal dynamics, consequently results vary.
In my opinion, having WGs adds another way of addressing an issue Ccl wd like advice on from the cmnty.  There are times cmtes are required and times WGs fill the bill nicely.
The decision is Ccl's to choose the type of cmte, task force, or WG it feels can/wd best provide the recommendations requested.  When choosing a WG however all must understand it's relaxed, inclusive, flexible, focused, and always open.
As Cclr Clark said, a difference he noted was the tone.
Ccl chooses the appropriate body and then those procedures shd be followed.
Some adv cmtes and some WGs have produced excellent results.
Human nature leads many to prefer to speak in private, but we've come a long way since the Star Chamber days, and Ccl is to be commended for embarking on a system that is completely transparent -- that's the ultimate trust, showing and earning confidence in the community.
And now, specifically speaking...a Working Group may be eminently suitable to resolve and encourage cooperation and consensus wrt the Spirit Trail.
Mayor:  Thank you, and thank you for your commitment to the Cmnty Engagement Cmte [CEC], and for finishing right when the three-minute light went off.
CR, chuckling: thank you.
{Reference: DWV website http://www.westvancouver.ca/article.asp?c=994 at 2008 July 14 3:30pm; one agenda (2007 April 20) for the Arts and Culture Strategy Implementation Working Group, mtgs until 2008 Jan 18 are listed with absolutely no notes whatsoever and no other agendas.}
Mayor: anyone else?
Max Nikpay, BPAHA Prez: have a letter to read, PAC to BPAHA
as a result of the discussion, resolved that BPAHA support Sentinel and Chartwell wrt traffic safety around their school; do whatever nec
Sch Dist and M, we wd be grateful information to our org; make submissions, call for
request any reports about them also; mainly about safety around Chartwell and Crosscreek
Mayor: our school traffic expert
JC: Sch Traffic Safety Cmte is a jt cmte of the Sch Dist and the Ccl; been working for about fiv years;; Chartwell and Sentinel first project we undertook; have a work plan; have to complete Rockridge; then intention to revisit the various other schools; this year we have no budget left, Mr Fung can attest to that and Mr Laing can back him up I'm sure; no further improvements, hope in 2009
Mayor: real issues there though, so I'm sure the Cmnty Assn wd appreciate knowing how you set your priorities for 2009, and that cd be referred to the cmte
JC: we answered a letter we received from the PAC
Mayor: this is BPAHA
MN: they approached us about their concern for the students there b/c we drive there and we know what's happening day by day.
Mayor: thank you
20. ADJOURNMENT [9:47]

=== CCL AGENDA July 21st ===
 ***  RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING AGENDA
                7pm (Adjourned from April 21, 2008 Public Hearing/Public Meeting)
1.                  CALL TO ORDER 
2.                  RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING
            OFFICIAL COMMUNITY PLAN BYLAW NO. 4360, 2004, AMENDMENT BYLAW NO. 4541, 2007; ZONING BYLAW NO. 2200, 1968, AMENDMENT BYLAW NO. 4540, 2007; AND DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION NO. 07-027 (regarding 445-13th Street)
3.         RECONVENED PUBLIC MEETING
DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION NO. 07-027 (re 445-13th Street)
Planning Staff will describe the subject application with respect to the proposed bylaws and development permit application as listed above:
Applicant:  Irca Enterprises Ltd.
Subject Lands:  445 - 13th Street (Lot A, Block 15, District Lot 237, Plan 7625)
Purpose:  To provide for [four] two-storey townhouse units, with [eight] parking spaces under the building.  The parking would be accessed from 13th Street.
Proposed Official Community Plan Amendment:  To amend Policy LE 2 to enable consideration of a rezoning of this mixed commercial-residential zoned property to allow a residential-only use.
Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment:  To rezone the subject lands from C2 (Commercial Zone) to a new R.M.L. 20 (Multiple Dwelling Zone (Low Density)).
Proposed Development Permit:  To regulate the form and character of development to build upon the Town Centre character of Ambleside.
4.         RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING PROCEDURE
5.         REPORTS/CORRESPONDENCE 
1)         Reports to Council received up to July 17, 2008:
S. Mikicich, Sr. Community Planner: March 7, 2008, March 17, 2008
S. Mikicich, Sr. Community Planner: April 18, 2008, April 21, 2008
2)         Correspondence received up to July 17, 2008:
J. Robertson, V. Johnson, R & C Ash (one letter); E.D. Harper; K. Parker; R. Wilson; J. Rothwell; J. Derham-Reid
The Public Hearing/Public Meeting was held on April 21, 2008 and adjourned to July 21, 2008.
6.         APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION 
7.         PUBLIC INPUT 
8.         CLOSURE OF RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING
        (Closure, or adjournment if staff report requested)
Members of Council are not permitted to receive further submissions regarding the proposed Bylaw once the Public Hearing is closed.
 ***  RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA
                7:30pm (Adjourned from July 7, 2008 Public Hearing)
                The Council Meeting will commence immediately following the Public Hearing.
1.         CALL TO ORDER
2.         RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING
            Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4543, 2008; and Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4544, 2008 (File:  1610-20-4543/4544)
            Planning Staff will describe the proposed bylaws.
The District of West Vancouver initiated the Ambleside Town Centre Strategy project following the adoption of the Official Community Plan (OCP) in 2004. The District is now proposing to update the Official Community Plan and Zoning Bylaw in accordance with the policy direction arrived at through the Ambleside Town Centre Strategy project discussions and debates.
3.         RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURE
4.         REPORTS/CORRESPONDENCE 
1)         Reports to Council received up to July 17, 2008:
S. Nicholls, Associate Director of Major Projects: May 16, 2008, May 26, 2008
B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands and Permits: June 5, 2008, June 16, 2008
B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands and Permits: June 27, 2008, July 7, 2008
C. Parsons, Urban Design Planner: July 11, 2008, July 21, 2008
2)         Correspondence received up to July 17, 2008: [long list including from ADRA]
The Public Hearing was held on July 7, 2008 and adjourned to July 21, 2008.
5.         PUBLIC INPUT
6.         CLOSURE OR ADJOURNMENT OF RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING
***  REGULAR COUNCIL AGENDA
        FOLLOWING THE RECONVENED PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING PROPOSED AMBLESIDE BYLAWS
1.  APPROVAL OF AGENDA
2.  ADOPTION OF MINUTES: July 7, 2008 Regular Council Meeting; and July 7, 2008 Public Hearing.
DELEGATIONS
3.         Dr. K. McLeod & M. Naruki-van Velzen, regarding Healthy Living Program (File:  0120-01)
REPORTS
4.         Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4543, 2008 - Ambleside Town Centre
        Information to be provided.
5.         Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4544, 2008 - Ambleside Town Centre
        Information to be provided.
6.         Development Variance Permit Application 08-019 (6460 Rosebery Avenue)
At the July 7, 2008 meeting, Council received the report dated June 27, 2008 from the Planning Dept
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
If Council wishes a further staff report, then RECOMMENDED: THAT Staff report back to Council
OR
THAT DVP Application No. 08-019 which would allow for a variance on the Height of Building requirements be approved.
{how much is the height variance??? usually what's asked for is given in the motion!!!}
7.         Community Sport Working Group - Interim Report (File:  0117-20-CS)
...  dated July 8, 2008 from the Manager of Park Programs ...  received for information.
8.         Horseshoe Bay Fire Hall Site (File:  0510-18/0117-20-CDNCH)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the memo dated June 26, 2008 from C. Banham, Chair of the Community Dialogue on Neighbourhood Character and Housing Working Group ... be received for information.
9.         Park Exchange (Martin Corporation - Caulfield Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008 and Land Use Contract Approval Bylaw No. 2745, 1978, Amendment Bylaw No. 4566, 2008
RECOMMENDED:
THAT "Park Exchange (Martin Corporation - Caulfield [sic] Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008" (the "Park Exchange Bylaw") be read a first, second and third time.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT "Land Use Contract Approval Bylaw... (the "LUC Amendment Bylaw") be read a first and second time.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT whereas section 27 of the Community Charter stipulates that Council may only adopt the Park Exchange Bylaw with the approval of the electors, be it further resolved that:
(a)       Council authorizes and directs that an alternative approval process shall be provided in relation to the Bylaw in accordance with section 86 of the Community Charter;
(b)       Elector responses shall be substantially in the form set out in Appendix 5 to the Council Report dated July 10, 2008 entitled "Park Exchange (Martin Corporation - [Caulfeild] Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008 and Land Use Contract Approval Bylaw No. 2745, 1978, Amendment Bylaw No. 4566, 2008";
(c)       The deadline for the submission of elector response forms shall be 4:00 p.m. on September 3, 2008 (the "Deadline");
(d)       The Municipal Clerk is authorized to prepare an Alternate Approval Process Notice, which notice must be published once each week for two consecutive weeks with the second publication being at least 30 days before the Deadline;
(e)       A fair determination of the total number of electors of the District of West Vancouver is 34,357.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT whereas the amendments contemplated in the LUC Amendment Bylaw are consistent with the District's Official Community Plan, be it further resolved that the holding of a public hearing on the LUC Amendment Bylaw is waived.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT notice be mailed to all owners of property within 100 metres of the lands proposed to be exchanged, with any correspondence received being provided to Council prior to consideration of adoption of the bylaws.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT the Municipal Clerk certify the results of the alternative approval process and report back to Council after the Deadline.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT the Mayor and Clerk be authorized to execute a Park Exchange Agreement in the form attached as Appendix 6 (the "Park Exchange Agreement") after the required statutory notice of disposition has been filed pursuant to section 26 of the Community Charter.
10.       Community Centre Loan Authorization Bylaw No. 4573, 2008
                Information to be provided.
11.       Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4564, 2008 - Fire and Rescue Permits and Services
            RECOMMENDED: ... read a first, second, and third time.
BYLAWS for Adoption
12.       Solid Waste Utility Bylaw No. 4118, 1998, Amendment Bylaw No. 4511, 2008
13.       General Local Elections Regulations Bylaw No. 4447, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4571, 2008 14.       Automated Vote Counting System Authorization and Procedure Bylaw No. 4139, 1999, Amendment Bylaw No. 4572, 2008
15.       Water Utility Loan Authorization Bylaw No. 4570, 2008 (File:  1610-20-4570)
16.       Road Closure and Removal of Highway Dedication Bylaw No. 4548, 2008 
Add'l Information Report: Road Closure/Removal of Highway Dedication Bylaw -- 3580 Westmount Court
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
17.      Consent Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence
REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA
18.       Ambulance Station at 1542 Fulton Avenue (File:  1145-02)
        RECOMMENDED: THAT the report dated July 11, 2008 ... be received for information.
19.       Development Applications Status List (File:  1010-01)
        RECOMMENDED: ... be received for information.
CORRESPONDENCE LIST FOR CONSENT AGENDA
20.       Correspondence List (File:  0120?24)
Requests for Delegation -- No items presented.
Action Required
(1)               J. R. Happer, 39 Combat Engineer Regiment, July 10, 2008, regarding Financial Support
        Referred to Director of Parks and Community Services for consideration and response.
(2)              
M. M. Nikpay, British Properties Area Homeowners Association, July 7, 2008, regarding Traffic Safety around Chartwell and Sentinel Schools
        Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
(3)              
Federation of Canadian Municipalities and The Canadian Red Cross Society, undated, regarding the Auxiliary Role Project
Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.
No Action Required (receipt only)
(4)               D. Lust, Hugo Ray Park Area Resident's Group, July 11, 2008, regarding Hugo Ray Park
(5)               July 10, 2008, regarding Road Closure and Disposition of Municipal Land Bylaw No. 4548, 2008 and Community Centre Expansion
*** Does the calculations to show that this is a 'gift' b/c the assessed value of the nbr's land is $1.87M, ie $98.73 per sq ft, and is paying $200K for M land, ie $27.25 per sq ft.
Was Ccl asleep? Will they wake up and rescind third reading to try to get something closer to the real value???
(6)               July 11, 2008, regarding Stop Sign Change at Esquimalt Avenue and 14th Street
(7)               July 11, 2008, regarding Slowing Down Drivers on Keith Road
(8)               July 14, 2008, regarding Proposed Ambleside Bylaws
(9)               July 14, 2008, regarding Public Hearing and Proposed Ambleside Bylaws
(10)          July 8, 2008, regarding Ambleside Revitalization Plan and Recent Public Hearing
(11)          P. Walton, Owners of Strata Plan VR 2440, July 4, 2008, regarding Spirit Trail
(12)          G. W. Powell, Provincial Health Services Authority, June 25, 2008, regarding Progress Report
        Attachments available for viewing in Legislative Services Department.
(13)          July 3, 2008, regarding Parking Bylaw Notice
(14)          K. A. Ray, Strata Corporation VR 1928, July 7, regarding Letter; 30 Signatures in relation to Spirit Trail
(15) to (17)          July 4/10 regarding Spirit Trail
(18)          E. Fonseca, Ambleside/Dundarave Ratepayers' Association, July 8, regarding Uplift and Community Benefits
(19)          July 9, 2008, regarding Spirit Trail
Responses to Correspondence -- No items presented.
Responses to Questions in Question Period -- No items presented.
21. REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS   22. PUBLIC QUESTIONS/COMMENTS   21. ADJOURNMENT

===  QUOTATIONS  ===

Doug Larson, English racer (1902 - 1981):
   o   Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be better to change the locks.
   o   To err is human; to admit it, superhuman.

Thomas Berger, Amercan writer (b 1924)
   o   The art and science of asking questions is the source of all knowledge.
   o   No matter what side of the argument you are on, you always find people on your side that you wish were on the other.
   o   Why do writers write?  Because it isn't there.