Sept 8 Mtg NOTES
Sept 22 AGENDA
Calendar to Sept 30th+

by Carolanne Reynolds, Editor

Speak truth to power -- and to the public.....
IN THIS ISSUE:                            
Main Items Sept 22: BC Climate Action Charter Presentation; Nbrhd Character WG Recommendations now for public input; Solid Waste Utility (Bear) Bylaw; Park Exchange (Martin Corp/Caulfeild Plateau); Rodgers Crk Area, Zoning, and Phased Agreement Bylaws for adoption (will they or won't they allot a fairer share to the cmnty?);  and Correspondence: (2) no bike lane west of Pk Royal in the Marine Gateway work???, (4) the Sentinel Hill Alliance (SHA anonymous) questionnaire, (7) funny figs re traffic at HRay Park
=  CALENDAR to Sept 30th; peek at the first week of Oct (NShHeritage Weekend Sept 19 - 21)
A Creek Runs Under it (Sept 20); TEAWATCH
=  Sept 8 Ccl Mtg Notes:  TransLink $$$; Correspondence urging impermeable surfaces included in site coverage calculations, Chippendale petition/Boulders/Fraiche contretemps; at PQP when asked about RCrk & Workshop comments during ccl mtg and if they'd be open, flatly told no and closed.
=  Sept 22nd Ccl Mtg AGENDA
=  BOOKWATCH (Hollyburn); Maiku/Tanka: Words/Language; Quotations

=== Vive le Canada ===  September 5, 2008
Prime Minister Stephen Harper issued the following statement on the death of the Honourable Erik Nielsen, P.C., D.F.C., Q.C., LL.B.:  "I was deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Erik Nielsen. A long-time Progressive Conservative Member of Parliament for Yukon, he was fondly known as "Yukon Erik".
Erik was a significant force in the world of Canadian politics -- a fearless and formidable leader. To this day he remains the longest-serving MP in the Yukon, having won the Progressive Conservative nomination in 1957 and holding his seat until he resigned in 1987. He served as Minister of Public Works and National Defence, Deputy Prime Minister and President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada. He was also Opposition House Leader and Acting Leader of the Opposition for a time. In 1985, he headed a Task Force on Program Review, which became known as the Nielsen Task Force and undertook a comprehensive review of all federal spending.
He worked with passion and commitment for his constituents every day throughout his 30 years in Canadian politics. Erik embodied the spirit of Canada's True North Strong and Free and his heart was always in the Yukon where he lived a very different life than in Ottawa. He was a great politician, Yukoner, and Canadian.
{heart attack in Kelowna, Sept 4; brother is actor Leslie Nielsen}
..... from the EDITOR'S DESK
***  For years I've advocated having a sort of 'resident register' that residents cd sign up on to get information on municipal matters.  Overjoyed to report that the new DWV website enables this.  Go to http://www.westvancouver.ca/Residents/Level3.aspx?id=920 and you can sign up for agendas, Tidings, etc.  Will find out if that includes cmte and WG mtgs b/c that was something citizens wd want to know about -- especially if it's about changes in their neighbourhood!
***  Who's behind the SHA?  Enquiries to date have met a blank wall.  Wonder if they're related to the RAHDs (Residents Against High Density), wch I referred to as the RAHDicals during the last election.  Don't get me wrong, I'm against high density too -- density has to be well planned/located and confined without invading peaceful neighbourhood areas.  Truth alas is the first victim not only in war but in elections I've noticed.  It's twisted by those against and those for.  Read WVM to get both sides plus info, reason, the middle/logical way.  The "Transition Zone" debacle has misleading or incomplete info from all sides: residents, devprs, and the Hall.
Spin rules.
***  Many thanks to our MLA Ralph Sultan whose daughter brought these shattering photos to our attention:
The short - but eventful - life of Ike
Sept 15, 2008  / In its brief lifespan of only 13 days, Hurricane Ike wreaked great deal of havoc. Affecting several countries including Cuba, Haiti, and the United States, Ike is blamed for approximately 114 deaths (74 in Haiti alone), and damages that are still being tallied, with estimates topping $10 billion. Many shoreline communities of Galveston, Texas were wiped from the map by the winds, storm surge, and the walls of debris pushed along by Ike - though Galveston was spared the level of disaster it suffered in 1900. (28 photos total)
        Continue: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html
You've heard about the experiment at CERN in Switzerland, trying to create conditions similar to those that existed less than a billionth of a second after the Big Bang (creation of the universe).  So this is scientific but the twist is that it may be a physicist explaining it doing rap (~ five minutes).  Such a juxtaposition!
Subject: Rapping about the Large Hadron Collider: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
===   GENDERWATCH   ===
*  HILARIOUS -- If you haven't seen this SNL skit on Palin and Clinton (and it was everywhere quite fast), here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnRUKIMegn8
*  Uganda seeking miniskirt ban The minister said wearing a miniskirt was akin to going naked
Uganda's ethics and integrity minister says miniskirts should be banned - because women wearing them distract drivers and cause traffic accidents.
Nsaba Buturo told journalists in Kampala that wearing a miniskirt was like walking naked in the streets.
Uganda's integrity minister says miniskirts should be banned because they distract drivers and cause accidents.
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/africa/7621823.stm >
*  Hurry up and get your tix for Bard on the Beach -- ends Sept 27 (closing night is rollicking "Twelfth Night"!).  See www.bardonthebeach.org or call 739 0559.
*  Fortunate to have seen Pinter's Briefs at Presentation House.  Extremely well-acted. Running to Sept 27  there then at Studio 16 (1555 W 7th) from Oct 3 to 16.  Attitude warning -- it's absurdist theatre so be prepared for Pinter's askew views and at times inane language.
===   UPDATES   ===
*  WVM Library:  Did you know you can check out an Energy Meter using your library card?
These plug-in meters allow you to measure the amount of energy your home appliances are consuming. An information sheet from BC Hydro will suggest ways you can conserve. Energy Meters are kept at the Check-out Desk. If they are out on loan, you can request them in the catalogue. Just look them up by title - Energy Meter!
*  Eagle Lake water improvement
Drinking water from Eagle Lake will soon be treated with state-of-the-art membrane filtration technology which will provide protection against waterborne diseases and the possible impacts of turbidity, while reducing the amount of chlorine used. The treatment process will also include pH adjustment to the naturally acidic source waters.  Funding of this $15.5 million water treatment plant was approved by Council in 2006, and the capital cost is being offset by a $3 million contribution from senior governments. The facility is scheduled for completion at the end of 2007 and will be operational in 2008.  Our drinking water is currently treated with chlorine. This system disinfects the water of bacteria but cannot remove giardia, cryptosporidium, viruses, or turbidity.
More info at: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level2.aspx?id=2710
*  Eagle Island Operational Study -- Work is underway to develop a 20-year plan for Eagle Island...
Residents and staff will meet again mid to late September to review and discuss the "hybrid docking" option as well as factors - considered important to both groups - which are to be consider for comparison of each option.  Upon completion of the study early to mid October, staff will be reporting to Council with the study findings.
If you would like to provide comment at this time please contact Brent Dozzi. Phone: 604.925.7157.  Info at: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=8468
*  West Vancouver hires new Fire Chief
The District announced the hiring of Jim Cook as Fire Chief.  See: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=9138

=== CULTUREWATCH ===  Regret I missed........anyone in the know pls tell me of next or another
Benefit concert for a remote Tibetan village
A private audience with His Holiness the Dalai Lama is out of the grasp of most people, but for those wanting to get into the spirit of compassion, Vancouver Opera oboist and English-horn player Erin Marks is organizing a benefit concert for the remote Tibetan village of East Kham. Mbrs of the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra, Vancouver Opera Orchestra, the CBC Radio Orchestra, and Sinfonia are performing as the Pacific Spirit Chamber Orchestra at the Unitarian Church of Vancouver on Sat Sept 13, with conductor Gerald van Wyck. They'll perform music by Johann Sebastian Bach, Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky, Samuel Barber, and George Frederick Handel, as well as the premiere of an English-horn suite, Song of the Noble Snow Lion, based on melodies composed by Tibetan lama Gyalten Rinpoche and arranged by Marks and Rupert Lang

===  CALENDAR to Sept 30th  === [at Hall unless otherwise noted; pls confirm to make sure no changes]
Farmers' Markets: Dundarave Saturdays, Ambleside Sundays
[WVM25 sent out Sept 5 had mtgs/events to Sept 15 so won't repeat what was there but will let you know what appeared belatedly, not in time for that issue so you have a more complete record of mtgs.] 
== Wednesday Sept 10 ~ 7pm ~ Cmnty Sport WG
== Sat Sept 13 ~ 9am to noon ~ Ivy Pull at Lighthouse Park (LPPS)
==  Sunday Sept 14  
~ 9am ~ Terry Fox Run -- Starts from Ambleside Park, at the west end (13th Street); 2km, 5km, 10km - [Wheelchair accessible]  There is no pre-registration or registration fee for the Terry Fox Run. Please show up at least a 1/2 hour before the start time if you wish to be involved in the official start.  See website: http://www.terryfoxrun.org/english/terry%20fox%20run/run%20site%20listings/bcyukon/default.asp?s=1
~ 9am ~ Paws for a Cause -- Animal lovers can collect pledges to help injured, homeless, and abused animals by joining a walk starting at the WV SPCA shelter.  Info: www.spca.bc.ca/walk
~ 11am ~ North Shore Natural Gardens Tour -- This self-guided journey showcases five intriguing landscapes which are maintained using natural gardening techniques including: educational points of interest, hands-on demonstration, free resource materials, master gardeners, garden owners, and various experts.  Info: 984 9730, www.naturalgardenstour.com -- brochures at libraries and garden centres.
== Tuesday Sept 16  ~ 6:30pm ~ Cmnty Dialogue WG (Housing, Nbrhd Character), Srs' Ctr
== Wednesday Sept 17
        ~ 6:30pm ~ Child Care WG at Fulton House (1538 Fulton)
        ~ 7pm ~ Library Bd Mtg in Library of course!
        ~ 7pm ~ Board of Variance
How infuriating! with the new DWV website, you no longer can copy and paste the agenda or items, so I have to type it for you.  Here are two items with the variances being considered: 
   5)  5821 Eagle Island: proposed deck addition (5.6ft to combined sideyard, 1.8ft to min sideyard setback)
   6)  4044 Almondel Rd: proposed garage (5.77ft to accessory bldg height)
== Thursday Sept 18
   ~ 7:30am ~ Ch of Commerce Breakfast; David Hahn, CEO of BC Ferry Services (at Capilano GCC)
   ~ 11:30am to 2pm ~ Future of the Region -- Climate Change at Hollyburn Country Club
  ~ 5 - 7pm ~ Opening of Spirit Trail; Squamish Nation Marina Segment (Mosquito Crk Marina, 415 W Esplanade)
Unveiling/Blessing of the "Gateway to Ancient Wisdom", Art Sculpture by: Wade Baker of Sky Spirit Studio.
For further info, please contact Sheryl Fisher: 604 2901755 or sheryl_fisher@squamish.net
   ~ 5:30pm ~ WV Police Bd mtg in the Police Dept's boardroom
   ~ 6pm ~ NSh Family Court/Youth Justice Cmte at DNV M Hall Cmte Room
   ~ 7:30pm ~ WV Streamkeeper Society AGM at St Stephen's (885 - 22ne)
        604 628 1123; see www.streamkeepers.westvan.org and can write to streamkeepers@westvan.org

== Friday Sept 19 to Sunday Sept 21 NORTH SHORE HERITAGE WEEKEND
URL of brochure with all events: http://www.westvancouver.ca/uploadedFiles/Community_Planning/Heritage/Heritage_Events/08TricityHerWeekend.pdf
The first event is a free lecture:
        at DNV M Hall (355 West Queens Rd); seating is limited so call 990 2387 to register
        (attendance at this lecture gets you free admission to the Capilano Suspension Bridge Sat and Sun)
There's a lot more -- antique roadshow, full-scale tent home, heritage tree tour, calligraphy, scavenger hunt -- here are some:
o  Sat Sept 20
~  Destinations Time Walk starts at 9am, ends 3pm (see the pretty map at:
~  11am to 5pm ~ Last day of Selwyn Pullan Exhibition; closing reception 2 - 5pm; info 925 7295
~  3pm ~ Lawson Crk Bridge Dedication (foot of Bellevue & 18th)
~ 1 to 4pm ~ Displays/Info Booth next to Ferry Building -- come find out about our historical/heritage groups
o  Sun Sept 21 ~ free heritage harbour boat tours departing from Waterfront Park NV; for info 987 5612

==  Also on Sunday, Sept 21
North Shore Legions' Second annual chilli challenge at WV Branch #60 in the lounge
Judging /awards 3 - 4pm; entertainment by "The Howlers" 4 - 8pm
Sample the chilli prepared for us by chefs from branches #60, #114 & #118
$2. per person donation; proceeds to BC Children's Hospital; info: Val MacGregor, 922 3587
== Tuesday Sept 23
~ 7:30pm ~ WRA mtg: SmartGrowthBC presentation at St Monica's Cmnty Hall (at the Horseshoe Bay Roundabout)
Ione Smith, Special Projects Coordinator at Smart Growth BC, wil present their Sea-to-Sky Greenbelt initiative to members and other interested groups in our community.  The presentation will cover a few smart growth basics and explain the initiative with reference to our area. Maps are currently being developed for the Sea-to-Sky Greenbelt initiative and may be finished in time for the presentation. There will be lots of time for questions and discussions as well. 
== Wednesday Sept 24
~ 1:30pm ~ Arts & Cultural Facilities WG (Inaugural Mtg)
~ 5 - 7pm ~ Ch of Commerce Members' Showcase at The Boathouse in Horseshoe Bay  [CANCELLED]
Invitation to meet the Board of Directors and fellow Chamber members, along with the special guest Grant McRadu, the District of West Vancouver's new CAO, who will be saying a few words
== Thursday Sept 25
        ~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte [CANCELLED]
        ~ 5pm ~ NSh Substance Abuse WG
        ~ 5pm ~ NSh Adv Cmte on Disability Issues at DNV M Hall
== Sunday Sept 28 == RIVERS DAY in Vanier Park; NOON to 4:30pm; Parade begins at 1pm
The False Creek Watershed Society presents the fifth annual: SALMON CELEBRATION
"Remembering Our History, Celebrating the Living"
The Salmon Celebration is a FREE EARTH AND WATER FESTIVAL AND PARADE for all ages to:
- honour the spirit of the salmon that historically lived in the streams that flowed into Eastern False Creek
- connect the urban public with local groups who study salmon, save wilderness, and encourage urban sustainability
- We are also proud to be part of the events that celebrate September 2008 as "Wild Salmon Month" in Vancouver
We invite all to participate. Bring props and masks; whatever inspires you remember a lost salmon stream!
For pre-event workshops and more information, please check: http://www.falsecreekwatershed.org
Bus from Downtown: Take the 22 Macdonald Southbound on Burrard to Cypress and Cornwall, then walk North to water in the direction of the very tall totem pole.  We are also on the Seawall and easily accessible by Bike and Aquabus.

***  At this time no ccl mtg is planned for Monday Sept 29th, but they may change their minds!

== Thursday Oct 2
        ~ 5pm ~ Finance Cmte
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Measuring Up WG at Srs' Ctr
==  Friday Oct 3  ==
  ~ OPENING OF EAGLE LAKE MEMBRANE FILTRATION FACILITY (Ribbon-cutting; guests and media only)
  ~ FREE PUBLIC LECTURE in Paradise Makers Series
at SFU Harbour Centre, 515 W Hastings; reservations required; Email cstudies@sfu.ca or call 778 782 5100.
As we head into the municipal campaign season, join the SFU City Program on the first Friday evening of each month at Harbour Centre. On Sept 5 and Oct 3, we'll be bringing back politicians from City Councils past to share their perspectives not only on the times when they were in office but the challenges that face the city and region today. And then, as a lead-in to the election, we'll have our campaign showdown on November 7 - a new and entertaining way to hear from the candidates without the usual constraints. You simply won't know what matters or who to vote for unless you're there.
Speakers: October 3: Greg Halsey-Brandt, David Driscoll, Darlene Marzari

        Friday, Sept. 19, and Saturday, Sept. 20 -- 10am - 4pm.
Friends' Preview: Thurs., Sept.18, 6:30 - 8:30pm. Admission only with current Membership card. If possible, please renew your membership prior to the sale, although new memberships and renewals will be available at the door. Adults $10 Youth $5.
*  Author Visit: Zo=EB Landale -- Wednesday, Sept. 24 -- 7pm
Zo=EB Landale's work has won significant awards in poetry, fiction and creative non-fiction, including first in the 2003 CBC Literary Competition for poetry. 
        Friday, September 26, 7:30 - 9 pm, Peter J. Peters Room.
Hear internationally acclaimed author and Biography Channel host and inspiring host Dr. John Izzo. Seating is limited so come early. Doors open at 7pm. For info 925-7402.
*  Let's Speak English!  Join the group, make new friends and practise your English conversation skills at the Library every Friday in September from 10:30am -12noon.  No registration required.  For info 925 7402.
Philosophers' Cafe -- Friday Sept 26 -- 10:30am - 12:30pm
Aid or band-aid? Don Cayo, Moderator. Admission $5; every fourth Friday, see Philosophers Cafe website.
Join Joe Ronsley for readings & discussion of the works of one of the best poets of the 20th century.
Tuesday mornings: Sept.16, 23, Oct. 7, 21, Nov. 4, 18, 25, and Dec. 2. 10:30 - 12:30 pm, Peter J. Peters Room. No registration required, drop-ins welcome.   Poster; Reading List
FALL 2008 MOVIE SERIES -- Virginia Woolf on Film ~ 6pm ~
Oct 1  Mrs. Dalloway - based on the novel by Virginia Woolf; Rated G - Nudity
Oct 2  The Hours - based on the novel by Michael Cunningham; Rated PG - Theme of suicide; Coarse language

+++  FERRY BUILDING GALLERY  +++  Sept 16 to Oct 5 -- mixed media
"Driven To Abstraction"
Farnaz Abed, Andrea Argyros, Sande Waters, Todd Clark, Rohana Laing, Ruth Leithal,  Jose Francisco Rabasso
Opening Reception:  Tues Sept 16 from 6 to 8pm  *** Artists' Talk: Sat Sept 20 at 2pm

+++ SILK PURSE +++  (1570 Argyle) www.silkpurse.ca
September 9 - 21, 2008  --  "Integral Vision"
This mixed media exhibit features acrylic, mixed media and mirrors to create a magical wall of visual perception. Join artists Marina Ganen, Francine Renaud, and Forooz Shamloo as they guide us through an artist's complex, comprehensive and multidimensional view of art.
Sept. 23 - October 5, 2008 -- "Black & White"
Black-and-white media often has a "nostalgic" or historic feel to it. Despite its apparent simplicity, it can be a versatile and highly expressive medium. This exhibit features photography, ink on paper and metallic paper works by Lower Mainland artists Laura Clark, Lani Jeffrey, and Bronwyn Williams.
Opening Reception: TUESDAY September 23rd from 6-8 pm

+++  WV MUSEUM +++  Visit: http://www.westvanmuseum.blogspot.com/
Selwyn Pullan -- Position the New -- Photographs from 1945 -1975 [CLOSES Sept 20]
This retrospective demonstrates the photographer's intimate connection to the development of modernism on the West Coast of Canada and highlights the social, economic, and cultural forces that changed the face of Vancouver and the region during the post-war boom.
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Branch 60 will be having a steak dinner on Saturday, September 27th at 7pm upstairs in the Memorial Hall.  It will be a full sit-down dinner, and is being catered by Bette Geddes of the Lynn Valley Legion, Branch 114.  If you attended the Robbie Burns Supper in January, Bette catered that event.  Wasn't the roast beef meal wonderful?!
$28 per person; tix will be pre-sold, and are available now behind the bar until Monday, Sept 22nd, the cutoff date.

Lawson Creek Bridge Ceremony Saturday September 20th
{DWV media release} West Vancouver, BC:   The District's Parks Department has just completed its most recent work of art - a foot bridge and boardwalk alongside John Lawson Park.  Functional, yet also a work of environmental and creative expression -- the bridge was constructed entirely of wood found in West Vancouver's forests and on its beaches.  It was cut at the District's Operations Centre -- the only municipality in the Lower Mainland to operate its own saw mill.
        The 35-foot bridge connects to a 40-foot boardwalk and crosses John Lawson creek right at the park's foreshore.  Its builder, municipal employee, Mark Kachaluba, has produced a number of unique creek crossings and for this one on the foreshore, he chose something natural and rustic -- wood that would eventually bleach to match the surrounding driftwood.  The bridge's railing is courtesy of a cedar tree that washed up on shore in Caulfeild Cove.  The natural curve of the tree, which had bent to find the sunlight, serves as the base, gently winding to become the bridge's railing.  Because it's a fish-bearing creek, Kachaluba used driftwood to build intimate viewing areas.
        For Kachaluba, each bridge is different, depending on the environment and residents' needs. One thing however, remains the same: raw materials cut to specification on the District's own mill, fostering sustainability and lower transportation time and cost.  The District bought the mill just a few years ago.  After the first project, it had already paid for itself as the District had previously purchased its wood at retail prices.  Not only was it expensive, it also limited the options for building.  "When you have your own mill, you can use fallen trees, or re-use wood from renovations.  With an abundance of product that's large in size, you can work with non-standard dimensions, making everything thicker and stronger, so it lasts longer," says Kachaluba.
        The Lawson Creek bridge structure comes on the heels of last summer's bridge on Eagle Harbour Road.  That structure is more formal and comprises beams from the demolished West Vancouver Recreation Centre, as well as wood from trees that have fallen in the municipality.  Often, wood that's washed up on the beach is used in the structures, as the red and yellow cedar is a favourite of Kachaluba's.  "The beach is a gold mine of interesting, eclectic pieces of wood that can be integrated into different parts of structures that I build."
        District staff also credit local tree companies for their cooperation.  Often a private company will fell a tree, leaving it for the District to use.  As well, during last year's wind storm, West Vancouver trees were hard hit in different areas within the municipality - the District was able to use a lot of those fallen trees for future projects.
Adds Kachaluba: "Aside from the cost-savings and the environmental benefits, the mill gives the District creative freedom.  Not every project is a great work of art, but I try to make each bridge or staircase unique."
        The Lawson Creek bridge was made possible by a grant from the West Vancouver Community Foundation to the West Vancouver Shoreline Preservation Society from the Donald and Marjorie Lanskail Fund.  An official ceremony is planned for Saturday, September 20th at 3pm where members of the West Vancouver Community Foundation, West Vancouver Shoreline Preservation Society, Provincial and Federal Government officials, West Vancouver Council, and Mayor Pamela Goldsmith-Jones will be present.
===   TEAWATCH   ===
** Tea 'healthier' drink than water **
Drinking three or more cups of tea a day is as good for you as drinking plenty of water and may even have extra health benefits, say researchers.
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/health/5281046.stm >

===  COUNCIL MTG NOTES Sept 8  ===
amended adding 7.1, schedule change for Sept 15 [ccl mtg/workshop cancelled]
2. ADOPTION OF MINUTES of July 21, 28, and 30
3. K. Romses, Vancouver Coastal Health, regarding Active North Shore Network
[slides] three pillars: healthy living, healthy eating, smoke-free
Received Awards and Grants; pedometers for Mayor and Councillors (!)
Physical measurement activity grant of $6K
once you have pedometers, measure, see www.northshorewalks.com to convert to steps; need 10K steps a day
WV leader in province, changed vending machines in Srs' Ctr
Kathy Romses, 904 6246
Mayor: number of ppl had never done this before and now walking
4. J. Carline, Chief Administrative Officer, and J. Rusnak, Manager of Finance, Metro Vancouver, regarding Financial Challenges Facing the Region
Mayor: Ccl knows I raise this constantly; hear tonight then put back on agenda with staff recommendations
JCarline: my first visit back to WV since passing of Pat Boname, wd like to take a few seconds to pass condolences, must be a great loss to the cmnty.
Presenting a snapshot wrt the Financial Challenges Facing the Region [slides]
it's budgeting time
TransLink, number of capital projects; starting to get nervous about state of our economy post-Olympics
Jim Rusnak will make the presentation, based on assumptions so partly right and partly wrong
there's a fuller version we'd happily provide
JR: my first time here; pleasure to be here
Slide: Background & Scope of Presentation -- Liquid Waste Mgmt Plan (LWMP and Sewer)
2008 Expenditures; Solid Waste, Water District Housing Corp Regional Dist, Liquid Waste
2008 Revenue: water sales, Solid Waste Tipping Fee, Sewer Levy, Tax Requisition, etc
Major Future Capital Projects -- Water; Liquid Waste; Solid Waste
Metro Vancouver - Total Expenditures, $550M rises to over billion
GVS&DD Projected Municipal Levy (in $ Millions)
Municipal Expenditures ($ Millions)
Revenue & Expenditure Projections re TransLink -- slide from recent ten-year plan
in three years will have exhausted their reserves
TransLink Assumptions, find gap to 2018, still leaves $2B gap (assuming 4.5% growth)
Metro Vancouver Region as a Whole Total Expenditures -- $12B by 2030
Summary of Regional Impact Total Regional Expenditures
costs from $4.7B to $12.4B based on 'moderate' assumptions
Funding or lack of from prov/fed govts important
Metro Vancouver Board Resolution
Happy to share this report with you.
Mayor: first, JC as our rep
JC: had opp to ask questions at mtgs, wd like to congratulate Mr Rusnak, distinct diff in presentation and quality of presentation, want to thank you
Sop: want to thank you
in the outline, it's almost three times the cost in 12 years
wonder about the philosophy of coming back to the property taxpayer; prov has not stepped up to the plate
face an uncertain burden on prop tax, can't go with same philosophy
work of GVRD satisfactory but the growth is big dollars and can't expect us to take burden
surplus in Victoria, why not coming from there?
Carline: bulk of our revenue in water and sewer levies, on prop v low, below Assessment Authority, something like $10 per $100M
have approached the fed govt to explore other financing opps; these days fed govt particularly aware of constitutional reqs and relnship with prov (not Ms)
shed ourselves of hospital financing -- other regions in BC have to come up with that, we managed to escape
need for a change in how Ms finance the services they provide
region is a partnership of local govts; we're open to ideas
VV: add my thanks
been struggling trying to do calculations for WV share various estimated $120B so on
based on per capita and looked as if we're behind; this info can be more accurate
serious infrastructure investments to make; share for M
given I've spoken a lot about non-sustainable
the WV popn is rather different, assumptions of income going up, not true of the pensioned popn.
The median house price now is $1.4M and taxes around $5K, a pension income doesn't cover that
JF: infrastructure debt presented this evening not just Metro Vancouver; other places in the world facing this, it's international
in your search to find something to mitigate, are you looking beyond MetroV, looking internationally?
Carline: had talks in Ottawa, situation facing American cities, myself not so much with European cities
here on the west cost, rather new so better off
sewers from 1950s being upgraded, costly; even just to stand still
national progs, operate on capital grants
wd be good local govt cd hv access to diff revenues
talked to my colleagues in California with sales tax and they're amazed can operate without one
JR: Commonwealth Forum last week and common theme
from 50s and 60s thought operating fine and now recognizing it's not -- $250B?
tapping into that
Mayor: of the G8 countries, Canada invests the least
b/c of the fed election, what's the strategy for bringing this to the forefront
we know primary treatment isn't good enough; can't ship garbage to US; First Nations taking precedence
our options limited; gap with TransLink, no operating budget for Canada Line?
Carline: that's the conclusion I wd reach; construction but not operating
Mayor: expect to share costs but not shoulder all of them
what does average household, what does that mean?
Ans: $600K
Mayor: about three times that in WV
RL: staff are at an early stage in quantifying what the region-wide numbers are
in your bar charts, look at p10 and 12, doesn't help with clarity if each have a different number of years -- if equidistant might see a more realistic trend
trying to project out to 2030 dicey, probably look at five and ten years we can do something
wd welcome more work with staff, know where these figs come from, jt cmtes, with NShore
JR: reason 2030, the major flow will start in latter part of decade and didn't want to hide that
major flow of expenditures
deferring one now will pile it up later
v timely for a political strategy, bring to attention of ppl seeking election situation you're faced with
Mayor: a greater role for our CAOs, CFO, Engg work with MetroV cmtes
Carline: some made some suggestions; have appetite to be more involved
now we've defined the problem, hope they'll stay to define the solution
JC: moved thanks and this be returned to Ccl
Sop: when?
CAO: will sit down tomorrow and try to figure out; funding formula, etc
back in the next few weeks
Sop: Ccl discussion
Sop: public discussion
Sop: tend to sit on a shelf; can we get a resolve out of this or same old?
jump on us with property tax; can't, it's shrinking! can't take it any more
Mayor: way to manage -- water conservation, etc
when considering our own budget this shd be included and hasn't been; that's our obligation to our taxpayer
5. Greater Vancouver Regional Emergency Planning Service Establishing Bylaw No. 1079, 2008(File: 2720-02-01)
RECOMMENDED: THAT it be recommended to Metro Vancouver that consideration of the Memorandum of Understanding and this bylaw be deferred pending a further report on possible alternative funding mechanisms.
CAO: had discussions on NSh; until funding formula addressed, need discussions on formula funding
don't disagree with concept, strongly support
will be bringing back those discussions to Ccl
Sop: recognize need; serious wind and saw excellent staff delivery, well trained
when you look at this request, has earmarks, maybe small amt of money but to produce revenues for wider, even province-wide services; don't dispute need is there
have to find a source; see you can go as high as $500K
a tremendous amt of work by volunteers; system has worked
if bridges break down, what do we do over here?
these are all cmte reports; only option back onto prop tax
if we're going to expand this, ev indiv, in this area 5 - 7 on their own....
they're on their own; one owner had ppl come down
Mayor: we're debating the deferral
Sop: don't think it shd come back until another way
Mayor: precisely why deferring; that's motion
in favour? CARRIED
Sop: did you hear what I said? sink in a little bit?
6. Canadian Red Cross Society Auxiliary Role Project (File: 0055-20-CRCR1)
RECOMMENDED: THAT Council expresses [sic] its support for the Canadian Red Cross Auxiliary Role Project and in particular the renewal of the framework for cooperation between public authorities and the Canadian Red Cross to better address the humanitarian challenges of the 21st century by:
a) working to reinforce the status and roles of the Canadian Red Cross as auxiliary to public arteries in the humanitarian field; and
b) reviewing existing measures, arrangements and instruments supporting the relationship.
RD: 2009 is 100th anniversary of the Cdn Red Cross
will make this vague motion but heightens its importance
Mayor: in favour?
7. Community Centre Quarterly Update -Volume VIII -Sept 2, 2008 (File: 3002-04)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report dated September 2, 2008 from the Deputy Director, Parks & Community Services titled Quarterly Report - Community Centre Construction Volume VIII be received for information.
CAO: [Basil Davis] is making report; still on track from outlined June 16
stated perhaps overage 2.5% or $1M; at present $275K but think it will rise but will be well below $1M; one third of overage will be covered by VCHA
steeply rising costs and....
opening set for Nov 8; confident, and in how moving it forward
Ccl asked for an independent review
so have asked; believe it will address some of the concerns of Ccl and cmnty
scope: will be looking at budget and scope from 2005; staff, construction, services, engg, mgmt controls, cost analysis, etc
believe cost controls been diligent; ask Mr Basil Davis
Mayor: welcome Mr Davis
BD: only two areas of concern to you: cost and schedule
$275K over was to end of June; rate of increase started to go down, August figures are being compiled
things are not being used, eg fig for concrete and not using that so saving
by draining each of the line items, starting to build up some spare cash, cd be used to reduce this 'overage'
not able to comment confidently on this at the moment
since the last presentation, feel we'll stay considerably below 2.5%
in this crazy market, better than the poor fellows at the Olympic Ctr
talked to a colleague $5M to $25M, overages as low as 15% and as high as 50% -- reputable architect so hope since he was happy with this, the client was
setting this up in 2005, trying to take a psychedelic guess, looking at %ages, got caught out -- 2007 was safely projected at a 7% increase and ended up as 10%
it's not just cost of materials, know what gasoline has gone up and shortages of steel and cement, but creeping through this is productivity
where Canada was enjoying a productivity increase 70s to 80s, to 90s, the one sector starting to suffer was the construction, labour activity and it as actually gone down 30%
as you read in paper, we lack skilled workers
bring in immigrant labour, but all countries trying to
faced with that, one reason projects have been extended
tall bldgs having extended 18%, in our case -- they want to get off job and on to another one -- we've been able to skim off the best of Scott (they have 160)
more confident will stay below 1%
completion of District facilities as opposed to Vancouver Health -- they've agreed to come behind us
They will not be there on opening day
hoping all District facilities for public to see; will be functional; gyms will be ready end of Oct
rest waiting for occupancy permits; rest of building is integrated
problematic -- the atrium, v fussy, will be magnificent, may need four or five trades
waiting for acoustic material; still waiting
pressed metallic exterior -- pieces damaged, waiting six weeks to be able to finish
one delivery prob backs up other trades
wd like to assure you you'll have your building Nov 8
other element of cost, no more grave than last qtrly report; July Aug, see trend, better
Mayor: Cclr Smith motion?
MS: understand Mr McRadu had a followup motion
Mayor: have initial one
MS: move received for info
MS moved: BTY Group a post-review and submitted to Ccl
VV: better to have someone who was not involved in project at an earlier state
do it without naming BTY
KP: it's true BTY has done work for DWV in past
suggested them b/c have a v high reputation and work around the world; believe they are the best; they are professionals
discussed this issue; they have high
BD: rather than a post-construction review, maybe a current
wrt BTY, I've used many of these companies, so happy to change it
BTY didn't work on this bldg, did on Aquatic Ctr and Cmnty Ctr -- diff architect
they're neutral as far as have to pick up drawings and start again
Mayor: you're welcome to remove name in motion
JC: when do you expect space ready?
BD: wd like occupation for six weeks before public come in
I'm used to hotels, finished 20 minutes before opening, public comes in
originally tried to get them in Dec 1 but then if you backtrack that then Oct 15, just too early
too much work; District; wanting VCHA facilities they want so they'll be in in January, February
JC: operational? and they're okay with that?
BD: yes
MS: in view of Cclr V's remarks and second part of motion, change
want to direct Mr McRadu and his staff to come back with a recommendation as to who we engage for this post-construction review, but also of recent capital projects so as we go forward with future capital projects--
{Murmurs beside him}
you'll really get me going Cclr Sop, you're winding me up!
recognize deck stacked against us; five or previous Ccl here and two weren't
not to assess blame, we need to look way decisions were made and way project was carried out
staff good job and Mr Davis bringing in within a few percentage
Cmnty has a genuine questions about facilities, capital dollars that were spent; concern about estimate and what was spent; original budget was $40M and much more was spent
legitimately ask why does the VCHA lease not include land value/component? and why boys'  and girls' band expectations to raise $2M included in the project?
learn as we go forward with Police bldg, etc
hope learn from recent projects we've done; western rec ctr, relocating road, all these things
those learnings will lead us to saving public dollars down the road
need at this stage for Mr McRadu come back, with terms of reference, a clear recommendation, BTY or whoever, to the next mtg
how reviewed capital projects and how do more effectively in future
Mayor: expanding; maybe you shd withdraw
review this project; wdn't want to withdraw this and miss opp
MS: this, Gleneagles, etc so we can see
reality is
Mr Davis has sat here, last mtg, we've had to change the exterior cladding of the bldg
we've had to change it expensive
why change?
why a glass elevator?
we need to know how these frills got into the project

{here's a little story for you, Mike:
the plans/drawings for a municipal structure came to the Design Panel
Ratepayer groups had some concerns b/c it was heading toward $1M
After learning there were some fancy or expensive elements with implication that was a good design and approved, It was pointed out that a simple building can be elegant.  The reply was that the Panel assumed the money allotted had been approved by Ccl or it wdn't hv bn referred to them -- they were only commenting on design.
That's when I recommended a different process wrt costs or that a couple of ratepayer reps sit on the Design Panel.
Not done, of course.
Guess we're lucky there were so many costly things that cd be eliminated or substituted for -- heard one was the mosaic panelling.
It must be acknowledged however that this past year or so was a most difficult time for construction.
On the other hand, it cannot be denied that the old rec ctr shd not have been demolished shortly before the last election so the new Ccl cd make decision, and public votes determine what was to be done PLUS a survey indicated that most residents wd like a referendum before spending over $10M of taxpayers money even if Ccl says they're not borrowing.}

not just review how staff executed directive -- staff effectively, Mr Pike
how do this and future Ccls
what directions shd be given
Mayor: I understand
MS: I'm relying on you
Mayor: I was afraid of that; maybe add this and other capital projects
JC: as seconder, believe we can accommodate both; pass this motion; start with this and then go backwards
Mayor: Cclr Sop
Sop: finally I can speak; don't have any problem with that
over so many years, pay-as-you-go, we hear many projects 50% more and we went through worst of times with productivity and cost; fairly minimal at end
over last ten years, opp for ppl to come forth and speak
we in WV strive for excellence
when we cdn't meet the $5M, we [cut]
a phenomenal finish to many years of hard work
then we're going to say we shdn't have done this and that
how much pay to have someone say we've ....
quite obvious we've done a good job
throughout Canada will look at us as a ctr of excellence -- swimming, health,
the other part
but don't think we shd spend money
not our vision, we hit high costs
this is a fabulous project; proud to have been on it
JF: Cclr Sop has raised a lot of the issues I was going to raise
think good idea to have review but wd like to know how long and what it will cost
for all in the past, high costs and huge amts of time
think we have v well documented
had a Select Cmte, mtgs were open to public, ample opp to comment
progress of Aq Ctr, Ice arena, Gleneagles
Important to know we were v v satisfied with all of the facilities
have been on budget for the most part and on time

{er, um; budgets revised......
Reference is often made to the RFMP but it had $2.5M for the Aquatic Ctr wch ended up over $8M admitted, but some claim $12M when all including preparations included.
The Cmnty Ctr started out about $12 to 15M, then went to about $25M, and up to around $40M but with part for Coastal Health and they'll make lease/rental payments.}

prudent to look at how we can improve; only common sense to look, so we can do a better job next time
wd like to see a motion that's more definite
opening up a huge volume of work; wd like to know the cost of
RD: I agree with what Cclr F has just said; no objection to learn
agree with Cclr Smith but want to support Cclr Sop as well -- amazing facilities in ten years, public satisfied
Gleneagles built as a result of tremendous demand from western part

{alas, still underused, so subsidised -- admitted in Ccl -- to the tune of over $600K a year.}

and think you'll see usage grow
in Cmnty Ctr we now have two, not just one gym, again in response to public demand
re Aq Ctr money for ozonated expensive but ppl coming from all over mainland hence making more money as a result of ozonation

{needs explanation; rec activities are subsidized so it costs us money; it may be the case, however that we're losing less with more ppl coming.}

can't quantify too clearly what done or ought to have been done
marvellous job, tremendous
ppl come from Canada and US and they pay more than we do and haven't the number of facilities we have
congratulate Mr Davis, wonderful job, amazing, almost on budget given conference ctr and Olympic facilities etc way over budget
think you've done just a magnificent job, really looking forward to Nov 8
Mayor: second part of motion: asking staff to report back, engaging a consultant on cmnty project, can also give recommendations on other projects; trying to demonstrate our oversight capacity as a Ccl; trying to conclude a ten-year rec facilities master plan
demonstrate responsibility demonstrated by staff and partners toward our schedule and budget and quality; keep it simple, and keep going
v interested to know what the Finance Cmte thinks; we know we have to embark on a long-term capital mgmt plan, and this kind of info is going to help us
Sop: will support to look at capital projects now and future; won't support spending money to look a the cmnty ctr
second Mr Davis's notes; no one knows ctr better than him; spend money and get back what we've just heard from Cclr Day and others of what this great project is.
reminded though about how to do things in future and under capital projects need that
talking about Cmnty Ctr and suddenly this came up; want to divide them up, will vote accordingly
MS: problem it's like attacking motherhood -- beautiful, parks, chicken in every pot
bottom line, this is a business and taxpayers of WV have spent $60M on these rec bldgs
no argument with that, that was a decision that was made
sure need was there; whether they cd do it for $59.8M is problematical, but the bottom line we have an obligation for projects, for an expenditure of that size, wch has virtually used up all our capital  reserves, to go back after the event regardless of how beautiful the bldgs are and examine how we did vs the original objectives, are there learnings we can apply going forward
don't know why ppl are afraid of that; I don't understand that
Sop: I'm not afraid
VV: I agree on that point with Cclr Smith
problem is nothing to do with the beautiful facilities, the problem is all the financial headache it's leaving us with
if there's anything we can learn from that, any comments we owe our taxpayer, I think we shd sufficiently look into it for that purpose
JF: we are voting to have a staff report to discuss the costs, the company, and the scope
RD: speaking about facilities I didn't express support for Cclr Smith
Mayor: staff report back ... review of Cmnty Ctr project; just it at this time; staff come back
Sop: rather vague; how to look at projects in future; how far do you have to reach back?
Mayor: debate the motion
I'm doing my best to provide some focus for Sept 22
if you're relying on me to come up with wording on the fly, I'm afraid that's the best I can do.
7.1  Ccl Mtg Schedule change (re Sept 15)
JC: cancellation?
Mayor: nothing
MS: so you mean no mtg on Sept 15?
Ccl calendar is my Bible, sleep with it under my pillow
got back on weekend for this, leaving next Tu to come back for Sept 22 and now cancelled
Mayor: discuss at ccl workshop
CAO: nothing to discuss so staff feeling no point in having a mtg unless true biz to be discussed
RD: Rodgers Crk? surprised not on agenda
Mayor: not ready for tonight
RD: 3 to 7pm ccl workshop on that
CAO: that's for Sept 22

{Hold that thought.
This is what perked my ears up and although wishing to relax at the back I just had to ask.
That's a ccl mtg.
Ccl mtgs are supposed to be open unless an item qualifies with legislation citing section justifying in camera.
As you well know, the system at present is regular ccl mtgs first and third Mondays, with workshops or public hearings as needed on 2nd and 4th.
This is a workshop, it's on Rodgers Crk.  Although the public cannot speak, it shd be an open mtg for citizens to listen to debate and decisions.
So, I dragged myself up at PQP; asked about this to be told 'planning', closed, and CAO wants to talk to Ccl.
Completely denying what was said!
Is this somewhat akin to cheese in Denmark?}

Mayor: it's in the calendar; if you want to have a ccl wkshop/mtg
JF: amazed, complaining -- rejoice!

{Jeanie was not alone in her amazement.  MS usually complains about mtgs and threatens turning into a pumpkin as it nears 10pm -- who'd guess he'd want a mtg?
Well, to be charitable, maybe to cover stuff so other mtgs not so long.
Anyway, let's grab whatever respite we can get!
As Jeanie says, rejoice!}

RD: nothing on my calendar 29th; four hours ccl workshop on Sept 22? not meet on 15th and not on 29th, what?
Mayor: call question
8. Consent Agenda Items -Reports and Correspondence
VV: exempt 38, site coverage
Sop: 35
VV: artificial turf wrt Hugo Ray Park -- if not raised now, expect it back in two weeks?
KP: mid to late Oct; now letter from Coastal Health will be replying to that now
RD: item 9
Mayor: actual report
MS: item 20 in conjunction with nbrhd character
Mayor: 2, 29, 38, and 45

9. Trade Investment and Labour Mobility Agreement (TILMA) (File:  0175-01/0055-UBCM1)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the letter from D. Lidstone of Lidstone, Young, Anderson regarding "Accord Reached on the Trade Investment and Labour Mobility Agreement (TILMA)" dated July 28, 2008 be received for information.
RD: takes away land management powers of Ms
UBCM fought this v hard and prov govt has backed off
prov been v hard-nosed; takes away the few powers we have
still have our powers but only just barely
10. Development Applications Status List (File: 1010-01) received for information.
11. Correspondence List (File:  0120-24)
>>> Correspondence received up to July 25, 2008...
No Action Required (receipt only)
(2) July 24, 2008, regarding Stop Signs at Duchess Avenue and 14th Street
Sop: stop sign has been reversed; what has happened and this letter reminds me, wise?
RF: those changes made at suggestion of hwys; align in comparison with other roads in nbrhd
letter went around; we're responding to letterwriter
Sop: wrt school in N-W position, have to pull into intersection,
sightlines have to be improved
reversal has created a different way for drivers, some even blow through stop sign; dangerous esp with school at corner
RF: can take a look again, the warning signs about changes
>>> Correspondence received up to August 1, 8, 18,
(20) August 14, 2008, regarding Neighbourhood Character
MS: this issue goes on and on; builders have found an obvious loophole
decks and add hugely to mass
out of step
why? it's been discussed, shd be plugging these loopholes
in a perfect world staff wd come forward ... builders have found a loophole
bylaw to cover that
live in Dund and see change; we need to be pro-active, picking off these houses way out
Jefferson 22nd, decks on several
almost touches road
hear about nbrhd cmtes but never seem to make an easy change to our
Sokol: zoning bylaw proposals, longer term about a month
on Sept 22, some stopgap zoning bylaws, looking at most egregious ways
one for first reading is Sept 22, wd be addressing that, covered decks
Mayor: staff know that's my single greatest disappointment, that we haven't been able to act sooner
but staff are now making it a priority; they've heard Ccl and this Ccl will be able to deal with that this fall
RD: when is Neighbourhood Character WG going to report?
Sokol: on the 22nd as well
RD: going to be a v busy agenda, maybe put over to 29th; it really worries me in the terms of the things we have to accomplish, that we're only meeting twice in Sept after a month off in August, I just can't believe this
okay, but trouble is a huge amt of work before 7 o'clock

{aha!  the second reference to a ccl mtg before the public mtg starts at 7pm -- why these closed mtgs???}

then a long mtg on the 22nd with really really difficult issues to deal with; fatigue factor sets in around 10 o'clock, and I just warn against that; pls consider having a mtg on 29th if nec
>>>  Correspondence received up to August 25, 29
No Action Required (receipt only)

(38) C. Reynolds, West Van Matters, August 26, 2008, regarding Impermeable/Impervious Surfaces
Dear Mayor and Council:
re      Calculation of Impervious/Impermeable Surfaces
Recently it came to my attention that the City of Vancouver includes impervious surfaces in its calculations related to site coverage.  To my surprise, in response to my enquiry, staff said that West Vancouver does not.
Earlier this year, Council said staff would soon be bringing out clarification or revisions to the zoning bylaw on inclusion of decks in the FAR and though a separate issue, perhaps regulations on impervious surfaces could also be set out so early consideration of this can be given.
It's not just that impermeable surfaces increase costs because of sewage/drain/stormwater demands, on a hillside, they have serious environmental effects on creeks, erosion, flooding.   There is more information on the website http://www.lakesuperiorstreams.org/stormwater/toolkit/paving.html and they mention that municipalities are becoming more environmentally responsible.

VV: this particular letter draws to our attention this M does not include impervious surfaces in its calculations related to site coverage for a building as it seems other Ms do
ratio of impervious surface on a building lot does have to do with drainage, environmental issues
wondering are we intending to have something in the zoning bylaw to limit the impervious surfaces, particularly someone with a v large patio area, a large patio and swimming pool, and v little left of soil, lawn, flowerbeds, and so on
think we wd discourage a large paved area on a building lot b/c it does have consequences in heavy rain and water flowing off the property
has consideration been given to doing, as apparently in other Ms in having some limit on impervious surface on building lots
Sokol: the letterwriter is correct.  Ms Reynolds and I had corresponded on this matter.
Yes, the WV zoning bylaw does not regulate in terms of impervious surfaces, it looks only on bldg site coverage. I believe it is a flaw, particularly as we are looking at more sustainable forms of devt, low impact devt.
I think however this is a broader reaching question that won't be something that we can be bringing forward on the 22nd.  It will be something looked at in terms of the broader zoning bylaw.

{My letter, as you see.
Great for Cclr V to bring this up.  Appreciate Mr Sokol's forthright acknowledgement. Too bad not in this package -- let's see how soon we can get it on the books!  Our hillsides are crying out to breathe and for protection.  I've had phone calls saying one property nearby a resident is now 100% covered (Ambleside), another saying little land left after house, pool, etc (British Properties), and a lot gone from 10% building now to only 10% greenery (Altamont), etc.}
(45) 102 Signatures, August 29, 2008, regarding Boat Launching Ramp at the Foot of 14th Street
Sop: thought it was in pretty fair shape
KP: in range of $130K
put in; 80% of the users of that ramp don't live in WV; will put in 2009 budget
MS: launched mine ..... no difficulty at all, wait for tides

Mayor: petition from the Chippendale area and wd like to address Ccl during PQP

RD: with you attended Coastal Health
Jimmy Pattison gave $5M; generous; need to be improved; 2008 and rest in 2009
new techniques, technology, more rapid, faster dealing getting them into a bed
hope to do within eight or ten hours
v informative mtg
Sop: congratulations to Coho Festival, successful, great weather
after some 28 years of raising funds, now incubators in schools, helped Streamkeepers and others
we've been a leader in this; foster this into an environmental prog
extraordinary volunteers, incredible number of young ppl; years of funding specific projects
Mayor: no doubt efforts of Coho Festival and Streamkeepers; never seen so many return
we are unique, we are leading, we care for the environment; really successful day
also congratulate the Library Fdn, families and young chn
tremendous support by younger families
tremendous contribution of Pattison, Harris, and Smith families including our Ccl Smith

{Yes, indeed.  Most grateful to these philanthropists.  I've been told Cclr Smith donated $1M.  We owe a great debt of gratitude.  (Pattison $5M, wasn't told amount from Harris family.)}

excitement in eyes of doctors -- take an x-ray and have results in six seconds compared to the antiquated systems they've bn dealing with
not only wonderful for patients, obviously, but will maximize what we get out of all involved in providing emergency care on the NShore
Phase 3 is mental health and addictions intake area, also something we've bn working on for years and years
Rene Carrier (sp?): thanks for giving an opportunity to Boulders residents
with regard to Fraiche restaurant, three-storey
originally convenience store, a bistro something like Caper's or Meinhardt's
developed into a full restaurant
never intended to accommodate traffic and noise of a full restaurant such as Fraiche
in 2003 the strata bylaws clearly stated that a full service restaurant or fast-food restaurant was prohibited in that bldg
2004, the devpr, Quigg WV Properties, slightly changed the wording of the bylaw by removing full-service restaurant, and replacing it with full-service restaurant wch will be serving food through a window
I don't know too many full-service restaurants that serve food through a window
this change was made without any consultation with the prospective buyers or subsequent owners
up to June of this year nobody had known of the change
garbage has been an issue since opened; owners on west side, have had to close windows this summer to escape foul odours emanating from the garbage and the restaurant
parking is another major issue
cars parked wherever space, grassy areas; no parking zones, wherever space, even the valet parking attendant has been parking cars across sidewalks, etc.
mgmt of Fraiche cd alleviate problem, they have 23 spaces underground but refuse b/c more convenient to park on street, thereby taking up all parking space available
a quiet residential area has been turned into a parking lot with noise and other disturbances
no cooperation whatsoever from the owners of Fraiche
discussion with partner and he said, they have a biz licence and it's not a residential area
I beg to differ
wd like to thank Brent Dozzi and Kerry Miller (sp?) for ongoing assistance resolving parking issues, and allocating some resident-only parking areas on Chippendale
appreciated b/c we've gone months without parking for guests or family
thank Liz Holitzki, tireless assistance, sorting out problems, almost daily basis
bigger problem coming up in future, mgmt has decided to open up a banquet hall on the first floor of the bldg -- banquet hall, catering facility, disastrous, destroy whose character of the nbrhd
this is primarily a residential area, and urge you to preserve the residential character of Chippendale Rd and deny any application for such a biz venture
take into account needs of sgl biz and interests those many ppl, lives suffering impacts of a biz allowed to be established in an area completely unsuitable
Mayor: more work to do, but it has become; hear from David MacDonald and then discuss this further
David MacDonald (sp?):  2210 Chippendale Rd, resident there for three and a half years
You have before you two petitions: one parking on north side and the other opposing the catering/bankquet hall
have 45 signatures on those petitions; ...Boulder Court,...private homes will be impacted, look up at restaurant
won't go into how bylaw was changed but suffice to stay, we were shafted, that's not the M's fault, just a stmt of fact
I'm also a mbr of strata ccl but appearing as resident
one thing [strata] ccl has to be concerned about is to make sure quiet enjoyment is there for everybody; past year not v pleasant for us
support received from staff, Mayor, and Cclr Clark in particular has been outstanding
one problem we have is that Restaurant thinks they can do anything they want, and that the strata doesn't exist.
they're proceeding I'm told, with this devt downstairs, in spite of the fact no application for a bldg permit or a biz licence; they'll start work and then they'll apply
we intend to take them on on this one, no question about that
issues most concerned about
one: parking issue; met Hall, residents, owner, restaurant did, came up with plan, and very next day they just thumbed their nose at us
problem just won't go away
garbage smell serious, health issue
nbr not able to open windows or sit on deck all summer
know it's late
need your help; strongly urge not to approve devt downstairs; if they do apply hope you go the Devt Permit route, open Public Hearing
not just us here tonight, whole Whitby Estates; it's a residential area with one commercial building; not commercial area; that's what we have to get across
JC: Mr Carrier alluded to changes made in contract, are we talking about the disclosure stmt?
and do you know when those changes were made b/c that's a registered document?
ANS: original filed in Oct of 03; amended in April 04 but no one was notified or informed of the changes, just filed with Land and Titles Office and kept v quiet
I found out last year and docs given still stated a full restaurant was not permitted
Mayor: tread lightly; legal matters; if question go ahead; not clear if Planning Dept's strategy
JC: hope you've looked into legality, don't want to tread and don't want to go there anyway.
I hope the strata Ccl is looking into the legality of that document
ANS: in process of doing that
Sop: bylaw broad range, not just noise; quiet enjoyment is not just noise, residents in Amb fumes from a restaurant
we then adopted some principles; if tool why not applying to this restaurant?
Sokol: will familiarize myself with those provisions
issue that runs across Engg, Bylaw Enforcement, Planning, and  what I think we need to do is sit down and see what tools are available, and will report back to Ccl
Sop: Secondly, I want answers as to how this came about
remember it was to be a convenience store and teahouse
VV: good nbr bylaw, supposed to be applied
Mayor: wd apply
VV: -- anything a nuisance, weeds, noise; good nbr bylaw
supposed to have the right to inflict fines, and something about 30 days in jail for noncompliance; think controversial and it was written up in the NShNews
curious as to what legislation/bylaws we might have a bearing on this situation
Mayor: 30 days in jail is after numerous
been working on this for weeks; residents pro-active; we expect good businesses in WV
not wishing to say you can't do biz in WV but that nbrhd, residential, flavour of the nbrhd
Delilah's in West End, everyone knew you were lucky to be here and you really had to be quiet
JF: as one who approved that zoning, an opp for some comm activities above the Upper Levels
opp to meet one another so ppl didn't have to always get in their cars
social capital, buy milk, newspaper; good intentions
if we proceed with Rodgers Crk -- will be a larger facility
as we proceed with RCrk
the prob with good intentions they sometimes go sideways
secret to find
didn't think any of us who passed the motion foresaw this
maybe devp some form of criteria for compatibility

{Unfortunately there have been instances in wch devprs/owners do things neither intended nor anticipated.  Ccl and staff have to keep a step ahead and foresee in order to prevent perversions to plans.  As soon as something comes to light Ccl must step in and at least stop if they can't mitigate as well.}

CR: Carolanne Reynolds with a bad cold {but I didn't have a cold, however that's another story -- it was a v froggy throat).
Thought I cd get away with it tonight {didn't want to speak}, and not come up.
First of all, want to thank [Ccl? about???] of the intention of including decks, was bruited about last Sept.  I think Cclr Day said that they were hoping for something in March, and at least the application of the intention wd be working.
but the other thing that got me up was hearing that there wd be a four-hour ccl workshop on Rodgers Crk so presumably that wd be open to the--
Mayor: I don't believe that's correct
CR: what was that then?
Mayor: We have to adopt the Rodgers Crk, wch we will be doing Sept 22nd and the workshop that I think Cclr Day was referring to has to do with some, some, planning that the CAO wishes to talk to Ccl about, that's all.
CR: So, what sort of planning?  planning about Rodgers Crk? or just planning in general?
Mayor: No
CR: Well, again though, if it's planning, is that mtg going to be open?
Mayor: the manager holding a mtg with Ccl, and then that will be public of course
CR: and then what? sorry?
Mayor: and then that will become public of course
CR: the results of the workshop you mean
Mayor: yes
CR: thank you very much; hope you all enjoyed the summer.
Mayor: thanks

{well, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, isn't it a duck???
if more than a quorum of Ccl are mtg, it's a mtg of Ccl! -- even if they call it a workshop or skoobeedoo.  It ought to be open -- by legislation, by policy, by a desire for openness and not having mtgs behind closed doors.
Or are they into wordgames to avoid or subvert being open, debating in public???}

Max Nikpay: Prez of BPAHA re cutting of grass; told three crews and 119 sites; do ev three weeks
Mayor: any general area?
Max: specifically Taylor Way been neglected; told them lots of sunshine and rain so it grows
KP: ev three weeks; level we're able to provide
do get letters like yours; letter in July about another part and the way it looked
none of these parks any pesticide so you will see dandelions and plantains
depending on the budget
Mayor: recall your saying be conservative; TWay prov?
KP: boulevard all ours to maintain; below hwy, prov
Max: talking about above the hwy
KP: cherry trees
Max: thank you

===  COUNCIL AGENDA Sept 22  ===
1.1 British Columbia Climate Action Charter - Presentation (File: 0055 20 UBCM1)
2.  ADOPTION OF MINUTES: September 8, 2008 Regular Council Meeting.
3. Community Dialogue on Neighbourhood Character and Housing -- Working Group Recommendations (File: 2515-23)
1. The recommendations of the Community Dialogue Working Group, which are presented in the report titled Community Dialogue on Neighbourhood Character and Housing: Working Group Report and Recommendations, dated September 2008, included in Appendix A to the report from the Sr. Community Planner, dated September 15, 2008, be received for information.
2.  The Working Group report and recommendations be made available for further public review and comment.
3.  Staff report back to Council with recommendations for implementing the directions outlined in the Working Group=92=C4=F4s report, as part of the District's 2009 work program.
4. WV 2010 Leadership Team Delegation Bylaw No. 4580, 2008 (File: 1610-20-4580)
        Information to be provided.
   {Why not delay this item until info available?  why spring this on us?  why does this link not work?}
5. Solid Waste Utility Bylaw No. 4118, 1998, Amendment Bylaw No. 4578, 2008 (The Bear Bylaw) (File: 1605-01/1610-20-4578)
RECOMMENDED: ...read a first, second and third time.
6. Park Exchange (Martin Corporation=92 Caulfeild Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008 and Land Use Contract Approval Bylaw No. 2745, 1978, Amendment Bylaw No. 4566, 2008 (File:  2540-06/1610-20-4558/4566)
Report from S. Scholes - Alternate Approval Process re Park Exchange (Martin Corporation=92 Caulfeild Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008=92 Certification of Results (File:  1610-20-4558/4566)
Report from S. Nicholls - Land Use Contract Approval Bylaw No. 2745, 1978, Amendment Bylaw No. 4566, 2008 (File:  2540-06/1610-20-4566)
Park Exchange (Martin Corporation=92 Caulfeild Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008 received 1st, 2nd, and 3rd readings at the July 21, 2008 Regular Council Meeting.
1. The report dated September 10, 2008 from the Municipal Clerk regarding Alternative Approval Process re Park Exchange (Martin Corporation=92 Caulfeild Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008 -- Certification of Results be received for information.
2. Following adoption of Park Exchange (Martin Corporation=92 Caulfeild Plateau) Bylaw No. 4558, 2008, Staff be authorized to finalize the park exchange procesz
Land Use Contract Approval Bylaw No. 2745, 1978 Amendment Bylaw No. 4566, 2008 received 1st and 2nd readings at the July 21, 2008 Regular Council Meeting.
1. be read a third time.
2. Staff be directed to bring back for adoption October 6, 2008.
7. Rodgers Creek Area: Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4567, 2008; Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4568, 2008; and Phased Development Agreement Authorization Bylaw No. 4569 (Rodgers Creek Area), 2008
(File: 1610-20-4567/4568/4569 and 1010 20 01 007)
These bylaws received third reading at the July 28, 2008 Special Council meeting.
RECOMMENDED: THAT [all be adopted]
8. Correspondence List
Correspondence received up to September 5, 2008
Requests for Delegation -- No items presented.
Action Required
(1) E. Waugh, British Columbia Hydro and Power Authority, August 28, 2008, regarding Funding Available for Electric Beautification Projects
        Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
(2) September 1, 2008, regarding Marine Drive West of Park Royal Road Work
        Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
(3) September 3, 2008, regarding Truck and Traffic Noise
        Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
No Action Required (receipt only)
(4) September 1, 2008, regarding Housing Issues and Ambleside Redevelopment
(5) August 30, 2008, regarding Proposed Bicycle Trail from Horseshoe Bay to Deep Cove
(6) September 4, 2008, regarding Truck and Traffic Noise
Responses to Correspondence -- No items presented.
Responses to Questions in Question Period -- No items presented.
Correspondence received up to September 12, 2008
Requests for Delegation  -- No items presented.
Action Required
(7)  September 10, 2008, regarding Traffic Concerns, Hadden Drive and Mathers Avenue
        Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
(8)  September 8, 2008, regarding Tap Dance Fees       
Referred to Director of Parks and Community Services for consideration and response.
No Action Required (receipt only)
(9)  September 2, 2008, regarding Support for Spirit Trail
(10)  C. Gauthier, Executive Director, Downtown Vancouver Business Improvement Assn, September 9, 2008, regarding Invitation to October Luncheon
(11)  B. O'Neill, President, Canadian Union of Public Employees, September 3, 2008, regarding Trade Investment and Labour Mobility Agreement (TILMA)
(12)  K. S. Carter, Ombudsman, Prov of BC, Sept 5, regarding Early Resolution Process
Responses to Correspondence -- No items presented.
Responses to Questions in Question Period -- No items presented.
9.  REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS 10. Public Questions/Comments  11. Adjournment

===  BOOKWATCH  ===
Hollyburn by Francis Mansbridge -- more on this later; see info at www.hollyburnheritagesociety.ca

===  MAIKU/TANKA  ===  WORDS, LANGUAGE   2008 March 25
      In AWAD, Anu chose Yiddish words for the week and said it was the soul of the language.  My musings...

        words central to our being
                        how we interact
                                and express ourselves

language clothes our thoughts:
we dress them up, send them out --
formal, seductive,
        casual, plain, naked truth,
        some covered in a burqa

===  QUOTATIONS  ===

o Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad.
                                -- Aldous Huxley, English writer (1894 - 1963)
o  Chance is the pseudonym of God when he did not want to sign.
                        -- Theophile Gautier (1811 - 1872)
o  If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon in a perfectly useless manner, you have learned how to live.
                        --  Lin Yutang
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
                        -- Napoleon Bonaparte
o  If the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
                        -- Matthew 15:14
o  I'm worried as I'm beginning to have ideas that I don't agree with.
                        -- Francesco Tullio-Altan, Italian (b 1942)
o  If you ask me what I came into this life to do, I will tell you: I came to live out loud.
                        --  Emile Zola