Calendar to Nov 30

by Carolanne Reynolds, Editor

Nov 11 REMEMBRANCE DAY -- 90th Anniversary
very well attended in spite of the rain -- great, grateful cmnty
IN THIS ISSUE:                            
=  Main items Nov 17th: DPs with public input for Rodgers Crk Area 1, 1434 Marine Dr; Cmnty Amenity Contribution Allocation Policy; Health Promotion Pilot Project; Regional Emergency Mgmt Service; Bylaws for notice enforcement and fees/charges; Interim Devt Amendments Zoning Bylaw for adoption; Correspondence on Eagle Island Access, Whitby traffic, TLC plan, Reports on Ambleside Gateway and truck noise.
=  ELECTIONWATCH (candidates, contacts, polling stations)
=  Vive le Canada (veteran on $10 bill); from the EDITOR'S DESK (WVMs); UPDATES (Assessments for taxes; Response to NSN Nov 9; Slates?)
=  CALENDAR to Nov 30th: well, as much as known at the moment!
=  Ccl Mtg NOTES Oct 27th: Veterans' Week; Heritage WG Final Report; Eagle Island Docks ($500K); SPCA Licence; DPAs for Rodgers Crk and for 1434 Marine Dr; Cmnty Engagement Cmte Status Update; Zoning Amendment Bylaw (Floor Area Ratio) - Building Permit Application for 856 Anderson Cr and 2313 Nelson Ave Zoning Bylaw Rewrite to Interim Devt amendments to Zoning Bylaw and to Soil Removal and Deposit Regulation Amendment Bylaw; Three Readings for OCP Amendment Bylaw, Zoning Amendment Bylaw, and Devt Permit, then for Waterworks Regulation Amendment Bylaw as well as the Sewer and Drainage Utility Fee Bylaw (underbilling correction); PQP re Hugo Ray Park
=  NEWSWATCH (lots! including Museum of Tolerance being built by Israel on top of a Muslim cemetery); THEATREWATCH (Stuff Happens); ANIMALWATCH (white tiger cubs); Quotations
NB: At this point the Nov 24th ccl mtg is noted as cancelled but you never know if Ccl will decide to have a mtg after all.  Swearing-in is Dec 1st.

Please note that Election Results will be posted on the DWV's website via the following link:
http://www.westvancouver.ca/election.aspx  Results will be posted after the polls close as results are called in.
Keep in mind voters can vote for only one candidate and the ballot wd still be valid.
You can choose a mayoralty candidate or leave it blank.
You can vote for one candidate for councillor and that is valid.
You can vote for any number of candidates for councillor but not more than six.
You don't have to vote any slate or any slate entirely -- you can mix and match as you see fit (or vote a slate if you wish).

CANDIDATES for School Trustee (five):  Tanya Audain, Mary-Ann Booth, Sam Cole, Cindy Dekker, Jane Kellett, Tamara Leger, Barry Lindahl, Dave Stevenson, Coral Winfield

***  CANDIDATES for Council
CONTACT THE CANDIDATES!  They need your help, support, donations, votes:  Here's the contact information (NAME*phone*email*website) as best I know:
CLARK, John:  925 1812 * heresjohne@hotmail.com * www.westvancouver.com/johnclark
CLOUGH, Max: 789 9626 * maxclough@hotmail.com * no website [and didn't appear at any ACM]
GOLDSMITH-JONES, Pam: 922 0047 * pam@pamgoldsmith-jones.ca * www.pamgoldsmith-jones.ca ** Campaign Office: 250 - 16th St
VAUGHAN, Vivian:  925 2212 * info@vivianvaughan.ca * www.vivianvaughan.ca ** campaign office: 1333 Marine Drive


BLOCK, Lynne: 789 3783 * lynne@lynneblock.ca * www.lynneblock.ca
CHARLTON, Danielle: 913 0644 *dacha8@yahoo.ca * www.daniellecharlton.com
EVISON, Michael: 922 4355 * michaelevison@shaw.ca * www.michaelevison.com

GAMBIOLI, Nora: 913 8823 * info@noragambioli.com * www.noragambioli.com
HENDERSON, Gregg: N/A * gregghenderson7@telus.net * no website
HORSBURG, Alex: 377 4469 * alex_horsburg@telus.net * www3.telus.net/alex_horsburgh/

LEWIS, Michael: 315 4485 * michael.lewis@telus.net * www.electlewis.wordpress.com
NIKPAY, Max: 925 0833 * maxnikpay@shaw.ca * www.members.shaw.ca/maxnikpay/

PANZ, Trish: 913 8353 * tpanz@telus.net * www.trishpanz4council.com
REYNOLDS, Carolanne: 922 4400 * cr@carolanne.org * www.carolanne.org

SMITH, Michael: 922 7611 * mrsmith@mrsmithltd.com * no website
SOPROVICH, Bill:  925 6881 / wsbs@shaw.ca / no website
WALKER, Shannon:  922.6563 x 225 * shannon@shannonwalker.org * www.shannonwalker.org

***  POLLING STATIONS -- 8am to 8pm Saturday November 15 go to:
-  Eagle Harbour Primary School, 5575 Marine Drive
-  Gleneagles Elementary School, 6350 Marine Drive
-  Hollyburn Elementary School, 1329 Duchess Ave
-  Irwin Park Elementary School, 2455 Haywood Ave
-  Presbyterian Church, 2893 Marine Drive
-  Ridgeview Elementary School, 1250 Mathers Ave.
-  Rockridge Secondary School, 5350 Headland Drive
-  Seniors' Activity Centre, 695 - 21st Street
-  Sentinel Secondary School, 1250 Chartwell Drive
-  Westcot Elementary School, 760 Westcot Road

If you look at the back right-hand side of a Canadian $10 bill, you will see an old veteran standing at attention near the Ottawa war memorial. His name is Robert Metcalfe and he died last month at the age of 90.
That he managed to live to that age is rather remarkable, given what happened in the Second World War. He was born in England and was one of the 400,000 members of the British Expeditionary Force sent to the mainland where they found themselves facing the new German warfare technique -- the Blitzkrieg.
He was treating a wounded comrade when he was hit in the legs by shrapnel.  
En route to hospital, his ambulance came under fire from a German tank, which then miraculously ceased fire. Evacuated from Dunkirk on HMS Grenade, two of the sister ships with them were sunk.
He recovered and was sent to allied campaigns in North Africa and Italy. En route his ship was chased by the German battleship Bismarck.
In North Africa he served under General Montgomery against the Desert Fox, Rommel.
He was sent into the Italian campaign, and met his future wife, a lieutenant and physiotherapist in a Canadian hospital. They were married in the morning by the mayor of the Italian town, and again in the afternoon by a British padre.
After the war they settled in Chatham, ON, where he went into politics and became the warden (chairman) of the county and on his retirement he and his wife moved to Ottawa. At the age of 80 he wrote a book about his experiences.
One day out of the blue he received a call from a government official asking him to go downtown for a photo op. He wasn't told what the photo was for or why they chose him. 'He had no idea he would be on the bill,' his daughter said.
And now you know the story of the old veteran on the $10 bill.

..... from the EDITOR'S DESK
o  READ: West Van Matters has what was said at mtgs for the last few years, see www.westvan.org
Send email to subscribeWVM@westvan.org to get the news right away by email -- before it goes on the website and some news that doesn't make it to the website.
o  WRITE: Send information and updates to submitWVM@westvan.org if you have something of interest to the cmnty.
o  RESEARCH:  If you want to find out about a DWV topic, all you have to do is go to www.westvan.org, scroll to the bottom of the home page, and type in the topic in the Google site search field wch then brings up references, speeches, said during a WV ccl mtg in the past years
o  NB: There is no advertising in this newsletter; printing alone for the copies distributed run about $500 per month (except Aug -- thank gosh for summer holidays), so pls subscribe and read by email or look at the website; otherwise replace and/or pass on hardcopies to friends and family.
o  Copies of WVM2008: 1 - 30* can be found in the WV Memorial Library, the Srs' Ctr, and our Legion (Branch 60).  Of course they are on the website wch has copies of 2007 and earlier.

===   UPDATES   ===
+++  Vancouver Sun Nov 14: Assessments for residential properties will reflect market value at either July 1, 2007 or July 1, 2008, whichever is lower.  See http://www.bcassessment.bc.ca/2009_assessment_roll_info/Documents/08-11-14%20FINAL%20Media%20Bulletin-BCA%202009%20Assessment%20Roll.pdf
 +++  Your Editor's response to the NSN article Nov 9:
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:02:31; From: Carolanne Reynolds <EditorWVM@WestVan.org>
Subject: NSN Sunday [Nov 9th] http://www.canada.com/northshorenews/news/story.html?id=39aebc30-9ad6-4e35-94dd-b1373a625a0a&p=1
As you can imagine, I got many calls wrt the article about some organizations involved in this electoral period.
Some of the statements scream for clarification.
Only a few attended the candidate orientation mtg put on by DWV.  It was very good, conducted by Sheila Scholes.  There are always changes with each election.
Perhaps NSN will print a followup after they do further research.
PWV registered at Clerk's at the M Hall; no other group did as far as I know and that is stated in the NSN article.  This complies with the legislation permitting funds and promotion of candidates.
I have not been able to find out who the players are behind either the Sentinel Hill Alliance (whose survey was given to Ccl by a resident) or the "Low Taxes" mail-out piece.
Neither PWV nor WVCGG interviewed all the candidates.
Keith Pople, Chair, avers that PWV has never specifically claimed to have interviewed all the candidates, nor has WVCGG made that claim.
WVCGG recommends a full slate; PWV does not (at least hasn't in past).
PWV directors are residents (including some professions such as engineering and banking, some are ratepayer and/or WG mbrs; as far as I can tell, none is involved in planning or devt).  They all have followed WV affairs for many years, so my guess is that they evaluate candidates' actions and involvement to decide whom to interview.  If any uncertainty re all or some of the candidates, it ought to be removed.  They usually do not recommend an entire slate therefore voters may choose to vote for a full slate (selecting the rest themselves) or not, as they wish.
It is possible b/c of the ambiguity of the NSN article one candidate thought PWV had claimed it had interviewed all but checking with the Chair, Keith Pople, he confirmed he did not say that -- they didn't this election and didn't in the last.  It is therefore b/c of this inaccurate interpretation of the statement that this candidate stated it was "a lie" b/c several candidates had not been interviewed.  This is, of course, a serious -- possibly libellous-- statement to make in print in the newspaper so the misinterpretation is unfortunate, and may have led to the report starting with 'dubious ethical practices' applying to all three organizations when it definitely did not apply to PWV.  Clarification is required.
WVCGG's initial mtg is completely open, all candidates whether seeking their endorsement or not may speak (usually it's the first mtg of the election 'season' thus giving all an opportunity to be heard), and mbrships must be purchased a week before the endorsement mtg, normally about a week later, to be able to vote.  Before the endorsement mtg, any candidate may ask for an interview with the directors.  The board is made up of retirees, and various professions such as planner/developer, architect, banking, nursing, engineering, as well as at least one homeowner's assn mbr and includes a very close associate of British Pacific Properties, by far the largest landholder in WV; will check to see if any others have real estate connections; Chuck Walker, owner of a large bldg and company in Ambleside, resigned b/c his daughter decided to become a candidate.  Presumably they vote or reach a consensus to present a slate.  In past, frequently one or two were different from the mbrship vote; this may be the first time in 20 years for the directors' slate and the voted slate [to] match exactly.
As for WVCGG's not having a financial agent -- I haven't checked this but at this point wd accept the information from Clerk's.  I leave the definition and requirement to Clerk's.  I have not seen PWV's registration at the Hall but presume that's one of the questions asked so the requirements were fulfilled or that wd have been stated.
There are good people on both slates and it wd be unfortunate to discount anyone on a slate just b/c on a slate.  As the NSN correctly indicated, candidates for councillor are free to support any mayoralty candidate.  Rumours are that there will be two or more 'slates' or recommendations of some candidates.  Quite a topsy turvy election, partly b/c only two incumbents running to provide continuity (plus the mayor) and many new eager faces injecting fresh blood.
Your task?
Find the combination you think wd best reflect your values and your wishes for the future of West Vancouver.
Good luck!
+++  SLATES?
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:15:44 -0800
From: Carolanne Reynolds <EditorWVM@WestVan.org>  Subject: Slates?
Confused?  Received lots of queries so here's some info hope you find helpful.
Important information re 'slates' and voting.
These are not set in concrete nor is it a requirement they be voted as listed.  They are recommendations.  You as a voter have completely freedom of choice. 
In fact you can vote for just one candidate as a councillor -- but you can't vote for more than six!
May I say that all three mayoralty candidates undoubtedly wish the best for WV but have slightly different values and approaches.  I'm sure all candidates for councillor would be eager to work with any of the three.  The one chosen, after all, is the will of the people and that must be accepted.
As far as I know, neither PWV nor WVCGG made it a condition of being on their slate to support a particular mayoralty candidate.  I have not heard of anyone who was asked that in conversations with either board (but I didn't ask everyone; after reading this, one candidate interviewed by WVCGG said was asked wch supported for mayor), and any questions asked were about qualifications as a councillor and the usual re neighbourhood and budget (also asked at ACMs) -- not of the mayoralty nor of the other councillor candidates recommended -- for the directors to evaluate.
Indeed Cclr Smith is reported in the NSN as not officially supporting any one mayoralty candidate.  In any case he and Cclr Soprovich are on slates with two different mayoralty candidates!
Cclr Smith is on the WVCGG and the (mysterious) "Low Taxes, Low Growth"; Cclr Soprovich is on three slates, WVCGG, PWV, and "Low T/G". 
Obviously candidates and voters are free to select whatever combination they wish.
Be an independent voter!
In Wednesday's NSN, David Marley clarified that in speaking of "ethical dubious behaviour", he was not referring to PWV.  PWV clarified that they'd interviewed seven of the 12 candidates, ones they thought had the same goals for WV (and had not said 'all' to the reporter).
The glossy slate "Low Growth" received today has arrived too late for any research to be done but previous attempts to find out who was behind it met with a blank wall.
Friday's NSN and VSun (Nov 14) will probably have more news on the mysterious and the mystifying.
Politics is a different country, they do things differently there........
     -- with apologies to L P Hartley -- the first line of The Go-Between is (not quite correctly but better rhythm) quoted as: The past is another country, they do things differently there.

===  2008 WV Emergency Services Toy Drive: Nov 3 to Dec 15  ===
Media Release 2008 November 3: Contact:   Cst. Jeff Palmer - Community Services Unit; 925-7348
It's time to fill donation boxes again and ensure families in need have a special Holiday Season.
West Vancouver Fire and Rescue Services and the West Vancouver Police are geared up and ready for the 2008 West Vancouver Emergency Services Toy Drive.
West Vancouver Police Chief Kash Heed and Fire and Rescue Services Chief Jim Cook are looking forward to the third year of this important community initiative.
From November 3rd to December 15th, 2008, Firefighters and Police will accept donations of new and unwrapped gift items at West Vancouver Police Headquarters and all West Vancouver Fire Halls.
All donated items are forwarded to the Lower Mainland Christmas Bureau, and the Family Services of the North Shore Christmas Bureau.    Over 2300 gift items were donated last year.
"West Vancouver Firefighters and West Vancouver Police proudly work side by side as front line emergency responders," says Chief Cook, "This drive is a way for the community to join us working together for people facing difficult times in our community, people who still hope to provide some holiday season magic for their children."
"Donations last year were more than double the donations from the first year Police and Firefighters joined forces." notes Chief Heed, "We want to keep building on that success this year. We look forward to loading up our Mobile Command Unit and as many Fire Trucks as it takes to haul the community's generosity to the Christmas Bureaus."
Donations will be delivered to the Lower Mainland Christmas Bureau Christmas Wish Breakfast at the Pan Pacific Hotel and to the Family Services Christmas Bureau of the North Shore.
Donation Locations:
WV Police: WVPD Headquarters - 1330 Marine Drive
WV Fire and Rescue Services
Fire Hall # 1 - 760 16th Street
Fire Hall # 2 - 6272 Marine Drive
Fire Hall #3 - 4895 Marine Drive
Fire Hall #4 - 965 Cross Creek Road

===  CALENDAR to Nov 30th  ===  [at Hall unless otherwise noted; pls see DWV Calendar for changes/additions]
Saturday, Nov 1
   ~ 2 - 4pm ~ at Library: Frogs, Toads, and Salamanders - Alexandra de Jong-Westman, M.Sc. CEPIT
Sunday, Nov 2
   ~ 2 - 4pm ~ Mushroom Walk with Terry Taylor in Lighthouse Park; Meet at Upper Kiosk in parking lot
   ~ 3pm ~ Dr Boris Konovalov plays Beethoven and Chopin at St Francis in the Wood
= Wed Nov 5 ~ 6:30pm ~ Child Care WG at 1538 Fulton CANCELLED
= Wed Nov 12 ~ 9am ~ CEC (postponed to Nov 26)
= Thurs Nov 13  ~ 4:45pm ~ Finance Cmte at 1538 Fulton
                ~ 5:30pm ~ Measuring Up WG
                ~ 6pm ~ NSACDI at DNV M Hall
= Saturday, November 15
10am - 3pm Preparing for Severe Weather
On the North Shore, severe weather can bring down power lines and trees, create power outages, and cause extreme hazards to motorists and pedestrians. It's time for West Vancouver residents to get prepared. The North Shore Emergency Management Office is offering a free One Day Preparedness Workshop to learn about emergency food and water supplies, utilities, sanitation, out-of-area contacts and what to put in your emergency kit. Find out where to evacuate to, what to put in your evacuation "grab & go" bag, and how to respond during a disaster. Each participant will receive handouts and a free gas shut-off wrench.
Place: 147 East 14th Street, North Vancouver BC; Pre-registration is required. Please call 604-983-7440.
        See: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=12066
= Sun Nov 16
        ~ 3pm ~ CHAN Ctr (UBC): last performance of the CBC Radio Orchestra -- the last one left in NAm, 70 years old, cancelled by CBC.  Moves afoot to resurrect it as the National Broadcast Orchestra.  The NBO's website is still under construction but there is contact information at
www.broadcastorchestra.ca and donations have started to flow to the trust fund being administered by the law firm MacMillan LLP in Montreal.
= Wed Nov 19  ~ 5:30pm ~ Child Care WG // ~ 7pm ~ Library Bd mtg at Library
BUT FIRST: Chamber Breakfast 7:30am at Hollyburn CC: Virginia Greene, Prez/CEO of Biz Ccl of BC                                
        "The Future of Our Economy: It's Ours to Decide" (RSVP to 926 6614)
= Thurs Nov 20 ~ 7:30pm ~ WV STREAMKEEPERS' public mtg at St Stephen's (885 - 22nd)
        Reports re Hatchery, Creeks, Shoreline, Wetlands, DFO, DWV Envmtal; Spawner and salmon survey;
        WVSec's EPN; annual eggtake results; stormdrain marking by Ridgeview and Hollyburn schools, etc
= Sun Nov 23 ~ 10am - 3pm ~ Christmas Craft Fair at Srs' Ctr
= Wed Nov 26
        ~ 9am ~ Cmnty Engagement Cmte mtg
        ~ 1:30pm ~ Arts and Cultural Facilities WG
        ~ 7pm ~ Board of Variance
ALSO  ~ 5 - 7pm ~ Chamber of Commerce's Nov Mbrship Showcase at Partnership Ctr, 1846 Marine Dr
FREE to Members & Non Members; RSVP required for appetizer preparation -- 926 6614
= Thurs Nov 27
        ~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte mtg
        ~ 5pm ~ North Shore Adv Cmte on Disability Issues at DNV M Hall
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Police Bd Mtg in WVPD boardroom     

~ 7 - 9pm ~ Thurs Nov 20th -- Book Launch: Hollyburn by Francis Mansbridge [postponed from Nov 5]
Logging, skiing, environmental battles: this book chronicles the dynamic history of the Hollyburn/Cypress area from the early years to the upcoming Olympics.
The Hollyburn Heritage Society and Ronsdale Press would like to invite you to the official launch of Francis Mansbridge's book, "Hollyburn - The Mountain and the City".  Francis, his research associate, Lois Enns, the Hollyburn Heritage Society executive committee, and Ron Hatch (Ronsdale Press) look forward to seeing you at the book launch. More information about the book may be found on the Ronsdale Press web site. <http://www.ronsdalepress.com/catalogue/hollyburn.html>
EMAIL: hollyburnheritagesociety@telus.net and WEBSITE: http://www.hollyburnheritagesociety.ca/
~ 7pm Wednesday, Nov. 26: SPEED'S WAR: A BOOK TALK
George Reid, a former North Van. firefighter, joined the Seaforth Highlanders in 1942. He was taken prisoner at Baranello, Italy and spent time in eight Nazi POW camps. Mr. Reid will discuss his experiences and talk about his book: Speed's War.
Friday November 28. Concert starts at 7:30pm, doors open at 7pm.
Seating is limited so come early and enjoy refreshments by the Friends of the Library.
Celso Machado is a virtuoso guitarist and percussionist. He brings joy to his audiences with his subtle mixture of musical inspiration and irresistible rhythm. For over 30 years, Celso has performed at concerts throughout Brazil, Europe, and America.

+  Let's Speak English!  Join the group, make new friends and practise your English conversation skills at the Library: Fridays, November 7, 14, 21, & 28.  For information call Fariba Rocker at 604-506-6616..  No registration required.  For info 925 7402.
Join Joe Ronsley for readings and discussion of the works of one of the best poets of the 20th century.  Tues mornings: Nov 4, 18, 25, and Dec 2. 10:30 - 12:30pm.  No registration required, drop-ins welcome.
Join us for vibrant discussions on burning issues of the day.  We meet from 10:30am - 12:30pm one Friday each month (usually the fourth Friday).  Enjoy the snacks and coffee hospitably provided. Everyone welcome. Registration not required. Admission $5. Co-sponsored by S.F.U.
November 28: Biculturalism and multiculturalism: The long and winding road
Join guest Harry Greenwood, Chair of the West Vancouver Memorial Library Board and a lively contributor at past Philosophers' Caf=E9s, for this discussion about multiculturalism in Canada from the Bilingualism and Bicultural Commission in the 1960s through the Multiculturalism Act of the 1980s to today. 

=  Here's Looking at You -- November 4 - 16
Mixed Media Exhibition featuring: Janet Daacon ~ Shahla Damabi ~ Guity Novin ~ Ritta Peirone ~Aimee Perez ~ Alexis MacDonald Seto ~ Betty Theresa Woo 
        Opening Reception:  Tuesday, Nov 4, 6 - 8pm & Artists in Attendance:  Saturday, Nov 8, 2 - 3pm
=  Great Stuff 2008  --  Christmas Gift & Art Sale [Nov 21 to Dec 20]
An exhibition and sale of crafts, artwork, gifts from over 40 artisans and artists.  Late Friday shopping until 8pm.  Preview and Opening Sale 4 - 8pm on Fri Nov 21.
        See: http://ferrybuildinggallery.com/exhibitions/upcoming_exhibition

+++ SILK PURSE +++  (1570 Argyle)  www.silkpurse.ca
+  Caroun Photo Club (CPC); info: www.CarounPhotoClub.com
        CPC monthly meetings are held on the third Wednesday, 7 - 9 pm of each month.
        ALSO: Photography Tours: Queen Elizabeth Park Nov 2
+ November 4 - 16 -- "Think with the Senses - Feel with the Mind: Art in Fusion"
This exhibition bears the same title as a book by former MOMA curator, Robert Storr, meant to celebrate art and artists from different cultures. Join us as we showcase Lower Mainland artists Nadja & Atza Visnjic in an exhibition of fused glass art and acrylic on canvas.  With:
Opening: TUESDAY November 4th from 6-8 pm
+ Sunday, November 9: from 1 to 3 pm -- "ART CREATION ~ AN ELEVATED STATE"
Well-known Lower Mainland artist Atza Visnjic will talk about the unlimited sources of creativity we all posses and how to find and bring inspiration into our life and art.
Everyone is invited to join this FREE workshop/talk and is welcome to be inspired and inspire others. Bring your thirst [for] knowledge and curious nature to explore the inner artist in you on our collective path to discovery!  FREE -- EVERYONE WELCOME
+ November 18 - 30, 2008
"Wish You Were Here=8Ain stitches"
Ancient paintings, sculptures, and literary sources indicate that embroidery was applied to clothing and other fabrics from extremely early times. The earliest surviving embroidered cloth is Egyptian, preserved by the dry desert climate. Let the
North Shore Needle Arts Guild take you on a journey from traditional to contemporary needle art. Enjoy a fascinating display of 14 pieces featuring different techniques and needle art.
Opening: TUESDAY November 18th from 6 - 8 pm

+++  WV MUSEUM +++  Visit: http://www.westvanmuseum.blogspot.com/
        =  Exhibition: The Prints of Alistair Bell  to February 7, 2009
=  Documentary Screening of Forced March to Freedom, Paperny Films, 2001
Saturday November 8th from 1:30 to 2:30pm
At the end of the Second World War, ten thousand prisoners of war anticipated liberation courtesy the advancing Russian Red Army. The retreating Germans forced the prisoners to march out of Stalag Luft III in the dead of winter toward the center of a collapsing Third Reich in order to keep the PoW's as hostages. Forced March to Freedom tells the story of this amazing test of endurance through the eyes of Robert Buckham, a bomber pilot and artist who produced countless sketches and watercolours of prison camp life, as well as one of the only chronicles of the forced march itself. Interviews with Buckham and other PoW's accentuate the sketches of camp life and the march as well as the few actual photographs of the march known to exist.

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or http://www.westvan60.com/Images/The%20Torch%20Newsletter%20-%20Fall-2008.pdf

In Honour of all Those who Served in the Cause of Peace and Freedom
Email:  legionbranch60@gmail.com; T: 922 3587; F: 922- 2659; Mail: 580 - 18th St, WV, V7V 3V7.
On behalf of West Vancouver, Branch 60 of The Royal Canadian Legion, I extend an invitation to Branch Members, their families, and our Community Friends to join with us in paying tribute to our Veterans. 
As members of The Royal Canadian Legion, we are all aware of our oath and commitment to this great organization. Assistance of our Veterans in need is our priority and our sole reason for existence.
This year we honour and respectfully remember the 90th Anniversary of the end of WWI, and those Canadians who made the ultimate sacrifice and gave us the great country we live in today. Veterans Week, November 5 - 11 is a time to reflect on all Veterans, past, present, and those currently serving in our Canadian Armed Forces. 
Our sincere regards,  Valerie MacGregor, Branch President; Jeremy Woodham, 2008 Poppy Campaign Chair
 "Where Volunteers make the difference." Chartered November 17th, 1926
{Steak Dinner Saturday Nov 29; see website}

 ===  COUNCIL MTG NOTES Oct 27th  ===
{As you must realize, my time has been quite limited recently so there is more missing than I wd like; apologies and beg you to bear with me.}
        add: item 10; withholding permits, add:10.2. 4.1 to 4.7
CAO: former Dir/Engg, Emil Barth, long-term disability; new Director is Ray Fung
Master's in Engg in Water Resources 1996
city of Rmd and NV; also principal author DDC 1997
water sustainability; Green Infrastructure; SmartGrowth
serves as the peer review for the FCM Green M fund
[See New Director of Engineering and Transportation: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=12378 ]
RF: thank M&Ccl for opportunity, look forward to serving Cmnty
Mayor: Autism Week
2.  ADOPTION OF MINUTES -- October 20, 2008 Public Hearing.
3. V. MacGregor, President, West Vancouver Branch 60, Royal Canadian Legion, regarding Veterans' Week November 5 - 11, 2008 (File: 0055 20 RCLE1)
VMcG: great pleasure to speak to you; in honour of our veterans, Veterans' Week
90th anniversary of WW1; gave us the great country we live in today
keeping alive memory in war and peacetime; this week WV veterans will be visiting WV schools
Charitable org, depends on  generosity
We will remember them [we stood in silence]
4. Community Heritage Register (File:  2585-03-04)
1.  Report from Senior Community Planner dated October 17, 2008 titled "Community Heritage Register"
2.  Memo from Chair and Vice-Chair of Heritage Strategic Plan Implementation Working Group titled "Completion of Community Heritage Register Project and Working Group Recommendations for 'Next Steps'"
1.  the four properties identified as: 1281 Clyde Avenue, 6028 Eagleridge Drive, 4773 Piccadilly South, and 3380 Westmount Road be added to the West Vancouver Community Heritage Register, pursuant to Section 954 of the Local Government Act;
2.  the eight properties listed in Appendix 'A' to this report be deleted from the nomination list for the West Vancouver Community Heritage Register; and
3.  the remaining 127 nominated properties listed in Appendix 'B' to this report remain eligible for addition to the Register at a future date.
Mayor: believe we have a presentation from Stephen Mikicich
and the WG
SM: first is staff report, second a memo from the WG
In June 2006; spring 2007; project synopsis.......
33; consult with remaining 138; one on one mtgs w prop owners
are recommending that four props be added to the Register at the time; 127 eligible
District's GIS; will report later this fall; will take into consideration
Lori Cameron: like to thank Ccl for... process developed by H staff
Tom Wardell: significant achievements
highly acclaimed M exhibitions and programs
Further Recommendations: reviewed the plan; priorities
Hollyburn Lodge; partnership with WVHS, Pt Atkinson Lighthouse; need to build on these examples.
cmnty festivals and sp events, diversity
beyond H project; multiyear WG
annual H awards in Feb, shd be done immediately
project specific WG; however appropriately matched
thank you our final report
{This includes slides, reports, notes, mbr profiles:
(Warning, the Presentation PDF file is 15Mb in size!) }
Sop: in light of H and its well-being; start to recognize H and its great value to the Cmnty
in curiosity when you went through this
want to be on list -- they say their home
support to remodelling; commit to prov govt
we will in some ways be able to add to whatever you're going to do to your house
SM: ppl who have come on board enthusiastically; supportive environment
Prov has been a good partner, funding, technical advice
Sop: Ccl Smith did work on his house
seen some nice bldgs disappear; fortunately work of this WG we're going to be aware in future
RD: happy to be on the H Cmte when it decided to set up Register
also on Ccl in 80s, set up H inventory
so, long experience; thank all including
sent out all the letters; not many responses, so didn't reply; high percentage of non-replies
SM: in some respects, not surprising; learned from other cmnties, takes a lot of time
initially concerned didn't have a lot of ppl wanting to be on ....
want to build a prog that they understand, come on board when willing to pursue
Register is an eligibility list, for tapping into other tools
this is a first step; have ~ 40, hope to have more, review annually
RD: on HR still in control of your home but you have incentives to maintain
TW: we hope to bring forward an Incentive Prog for Ccl's consideration in future
RD: ....; even restoring the home; see others out in the audience
VV: in following up ... while they finish their work
HWG Members: Tom Wardell (chair), Lori Cameron (Vice-Chair), Aline Brown, Marny Peirson, Ian MacDonald, Carol Howie, Carolanne Reynolds, Patricia Jarvis {see member profiles}
add'l homes

Mayor: add 4th point: refer to CEC

{right move; CEC can then set up a cmte/grp to get the Heritage Achievement Award process started.}
thank you turning Cclr V on to WGs
BC Binning safely in hands of TLC, Hollyburn Lodge ours, and Gleneagles restoration under way.

{Glad those milestones/achievements referred to; they are major for WV}
DWV Memo/Info on HWG; Ccl Report of Oct 17: http://www.westvancouver.ca/uploadedFiles/Your_Government/Committees_and_Groups/Working_Groups/DOC001.pdf

5. Eagle Island Docks (File:  1785-27)
RECOMMENDED:  THAT funding in the amount of five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000) for the replacement of the Eagle Island mainland and island docks be considered by Council through the 2009 Capital Budget deliberation process as a municipal capital project.

Jim Burbrant: own the prop, one of the mainland props associated with the proposal
here to comment on the logistics
not opposed to the motion for the budget for docks, garbage colln, etc
more dock space and parking needed; support applic and funding
had mtg yesterday with mbrs of the Eagle Island Task Force
[SLIDE, naming ppl, props, pointing, re access, barges, motor row boats]
Mayor: we try to limit time--
JB: will cut or talk faster [PHOTOS] -- narrow now, to come out further will limit access (prevent, can't get in or out)
in favour of ...
many signs on our prop, not District prop; same for fronts of cars; wheelbarrows to b/c understandable not wanting to take them back and forth; get rid of paraphernalia
in favour of funding provided it doesn't extend further south
Pippa and Jay Frye???: unfortunately a cmte of two and I lost, I speak tonight
opposed to extension of he dock
[slide with govt dock] potential north extension that wd come in front of our prop here
we feel if something being put in front of prop right to object and we do as anyone wd, don't don't particularly want to look at barges
probs with the easements; sewage pipe comes across, cable, and power; these will cause probs if we pile drive
if floating platform
fully understand prob Islanders have, appreciate; but point out north extension has serious probs
stopped on Westport Rd and looked down, privileged to have Eagle Hbr
fully in agreement with budget for islanders wrt docking and parking
dangerous crossing, no breakwater now
Wife: register objection; consideration for the future
also aware of the proposal tabled today; draw potential north dock to attention
Art Gill: We're the party in the middle, there after we moved in added 12ft; had a number of proposals
want to thank Alderman Sop, he was out there today, spoke to stakeholders there
got an idea how it is to live there
we have a small boat and it wdn't be able to go in and out, but new installed cd
garbage containers being moved wd be a plus for us b/c we share same prop line
have a large hedge to hide cans, and some orders
totally in agreement with proposal that came forward
as long as we can stay in loop, sure we'll be happy
Mayor: no one further wishing to speak
RF: Brent Dozzi has been the primary liaison, he's in audience today
also understand a couple of island residents wd like to present an overview
BD: [slide] wd like to invite John Brock and [X] to fill in gaps and
Eagle Island Task Force since 2006 -- state of disrepair
staff concerned with safety and ongoing transportation
aware annual maintenance more than the budget
2007 $25K for study; staff able to understand the probs; in your package as a ref doc
will be detailed design process so questions dealt with
2007 identified $500K put in as a place mark; in process this year re-entered and the real intent is to
ask Pat and John for any comments
Pat Hindley: co chair of EITF; general remarks about history, then hand over to John Brock also co-chair
TF for four years at first with SJN and now BD; thx, been a long journey
came in fall of 1992, $68K for mainland dock and in those 15 years requested little maintenance and have done a lot of it ourselves; as Mr D mentioned gone beyond; our proposal around necessity not enhancement
all the EI residents concerned about safety and ...  lots of chn
since loss of breakwater
been as frugal and economical as we can
conscious any changes cd affect others: yacht club, residents, etc
aware part of a wider cmnty so deliberately taken a wider approach; WVYC minutes, report...
have assured all those concerned that this is an application for funding into the 2009, these are not the final blueprints, aware the prerogative of the District
Equally gratified that Mr Sop came today and to hear he endorsed that position
we're not insisting on any proposal, asked by BD to express our needs
by no means a professional job; just a hope to allocate some funding
know some who have concerns know want to be part of the process, Bill Sop said that wd be the case, asked that if nec informed in writing
been involved for four years and wdn't be here if weren't essential to get to and from our house
JB: my name is John Brock, been there for 17 years
my cohorts have said if we ... corrected, the process has been under way for five years
communication with staff on a ... level
when you go to motion, hope you will approve 4.1 -- I reiterate that; I know bureaucracy requires two options but 4.2 wd not be a good option, we've been for five years and longer wd not be acceptable
VV: parking on Eagle Hbr Rd -- parking bylaw how does that work?
BD: consider history; evolved over time and consider where we want to go
garbage area being relocated; plan does address those, screened; parking by what we do in other areas, resident-permit parking
VV: that parking bylaw gives permission to park in front of someone's property for six hours
if complaint, then towed away
BD: permit wd override
VV: it's history, no legal entitlement to these spots
so any other mbr of the public cd park there, no limit
BD: when in place, require permit
JF: thought it was a straightforward report and now that I learn five years and asked to set aside $500K, is that $500K all for construction?
BD: wd be some design as well; some competent ppl involved who cd assist
comfortable with that number, marginally more, 10%, for engineering
JF: when brought to conclusion?
BD: rec is to secure the amt put in capital plan for 2007, in 2009 and if approved, construction completed by fall 2009
RF: what's being asked here is consideration of the proposal
not trying to tie the hands of a future Ccl, what we're suggesting is that with an overview, we are able to consider that in light of other requests as Ccl goes through a budget process in 2009
Sop: I'll ask a question then will comment after moved
the breakwater removed -- whose resp, prevent surge that wd disrupt
BD: private, had secondary effect b/c it provided some protection to xxx
it was in a private water lease; complications in that location
designs we've considered have no breakwater
having docks operate without breakwater wd req add'l study to protect docks and presume cost wd be to the District
Sop: ongoing dialogue; if we move ahead with this proposal, going to be ongoing dialogue as a capital project; staff project working through Engg
dialogue; delivery of a draft of where barges going to go
concern nothing else said... is that going to be the case?
BD: in spite of Pat and John's humbleness, v well done
Mr Cupit has verified that
Stage One, basis for dialogue with mainlanders, with Eagle Island Yacht Club
take a shot at it and go back to stakeholders, they point out bad things, we go away, come back and go from there
JB: there is assurance that the Island will look forward to continued dialogue with staff
MS: this Ccl has to ask a question,
reviews three options, and C is the least costly, op and maintenance
and also the least envmtal option -- fixed link
why wd this Ccl not consider fixed link and answer once and for all?
Mayor: so not debate, Mr Dozzi
BD: try to look at all; be fair; all options; what staff has tried to do, take a step back and consider some of the intangibles, one is maintaining the quality of life, that solace and separation; Ccl certainly has within prerogative that option
felt on balance, maintaining status quo and quality of life; best way to present this project
MS: don't want to paint myself in a corner as the villain of the piece
public money... this cheapest .. lock on gate ... wdn't it be the best option?
Mayor: will let BD answer that, remember the option is coming before us
BD: the fixed link; since they've done the report; other ... maintaining
heard from all the marinas, that channel from their perspective is to remain open
not to say a higher structure cdn't be made

{so they shd contribute b/c using it?}

that's a lower level so wd allow some smaller boats
certainly looks positive in a lot of regards, some need to be worked out
PH: impediment ... paramount to complete rejection
further, the envtal concern; rip rap landfill wd extend out and all tidal waters
everybody found that unacceptable, mainlanders and islanders; ambience reason to live in that nbrhd
Man: can I bring up the breakwater issue? ... if Ccl spending $500K
to stop... but it goes beyond that... when on EHRd, gets rough; hauled John's daughter out of water
Each ... is allowed, others come by rowboat
dark, big sea coming in and somebody drowns

{does this mean a breakwater needed later/also?}

Mayor: ask Cclr F to put motion on the floor
[JF did so]
Sop: I know why ppl move to WV when you look at the ambience of that channel
docks, animals, sea life ....  on either side
what I gathered today talking to the residents about the issues
well-balanced citizenry spent a lot of time thinking this through
all in this together
first of all, safety of residents, movement of goods and services; designated parking spot
given up to a truck if house being built
spent five years, now down to a capital prog by staff; Mr Dozzi did a good job
some think from Fisherman's Cove -- some do
don't want to be excluded from any decision made by this Ccl
may not be $500K, may be a fair amt
erosion in this area from surges; we shd be thinking further
area residents sensible ppl wanting to solve a prob
safety first, and go from there
VV: heard from the homeowners; hope we can give some assurance...
preserve quality of life for these home improvements
not encroach, stressed, assurance we won't
little bit concerned, following Cclr Smith's .... what on
starts to look as if $500K no [complete design?] ; maybe defer till we have more of an idea, what the amount is to set aside.
Mayor: are you making a motion?
VV: not enough info; need... ramifications; a better defined project
Mayor: a seconder on referral?
[MS seconded]
RF: staff received $50K this year and took us to this point
status quo for 2009; if funding doesn't materialize will have to look at .........
b/c of e.... on those docks
without that funding not going ahead quickly
if going forward, islanders good track record for engaging those on the other side
sure there wd be a public process, detailed design
it's a private breakwater on a private lot
jurisdictions, Nav Canada ....
complicated, if we were to tackle, wd be much bigger and more complicated
recog residents have worked with staff for four or five years
felt best to take to Ccl at this point
RL: Cc will recall re Budget 2008, we were quite challenged with number of projects
I'd be quite reluctant ... if approved, what wd have to be removed?
Mayor: it's a deferral motion; wd be ready defer
VV: understand breakwater project that wd be separate
Mayor: Ms Scholes .......
MS: I keep my boat on Thunderbird...
if issue is safety, fixed link is the safest
the Fire Dept relies solely on resident barges to get over to the island
charged with public safety ......
as Mr Laing has pointed out; to build expectation funds there is unfair
what is the ultimate best long-term soln for cmnty as a whole
Mayor: ... or call for another over
MS: common sense prevails ... [?]
Mayor: so go to motion
JF: make sure I clearly understand
like a book mark; when it comes to passage we'll know what it's going to be and then know if want to proceed?
RF: mainly correct; work to date so we know what we want to proceed with
taking into ... order of magnitude has been defined
staff wanted Ccl to have some background as to what this capital project was all about
JF: some incentives to come forward before capital budget
Sop: often engage our public to help us and staff
common sense ppl with a common interest; sensible soln to wants in this process
only the Mayor and myself this afternoon to look
I went today b/c as I read this, not certain of the topography .........
safety issue; logic; spent five years in doing
to sit and xxx is absolutely ridiculous
spent five years and know better than anyone else
believe me if you've been......
look at what staff proposes, in future, this is what we want to do
have to make sure our residents are safe
been hard; sensible deliberation
JC: agree with Ccr Sop -- can say it much faster -- this is only for consideration in 2009; when it happens staff can recommend a fixed link
Mayor: maybe make, send
one thing that's confusing
Ccl benefits from knowing there's consensus
Mayor: I'm perfectly prepared to go on the record as being against a fixed link

6. Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) Licence and Operating Agreement - Alternative Approval Process (File:  1145-06)
1.  WHEREAS the District, subject to the outcome of the alternative approval process referred to below, intends to enter into an agreement with the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) to provide use of a shelter premise and adjacent outdoor facilities on District owned land known as Ambleside Park and legally described as PID: 015-995-411, and "those portions of District Lot 237 in Explanatory Plan 4012, Group 1, New Westminster District", to permit the Society to provide animal control services for and on behalf of the District for a term of 10 years;
2.  AND WHEREAS under the proposed Licence and Operating Agreement the District agrees to pay to the SPCA in the event of termination the depreciated value of the shelter premise in an amount equal to:
     1.  The Initial Compensation Value ($491,000) reduced by $24,550 per year after 1997
     2.  And agree that after January 1, 2017, the value of the Shelter shall be $0.00
3.  AND WHEREAS, pursuant to section 175 of the Community Charter, Council may incur liability under an agreement for more than five years only with approval of the electors by elector assent or by alternative approval process under Section 86 of the Community Charter.
4.  AND WHEREAS the Municipal Clerk will make available to the public during regular business hours copies of the Licence and Operating Agreement and records relating to it as of the date of the first notice of Alternative Approval Process published pursuant to Section 86 of the Community Charter.
5.  NOW THEREFORE Council resolves as follows:
     1.  An Alternative Approval Process will be provided in relation to the liability to compensate the Society that would be incurred under the Licence and Operating Agreement.
     2.  Elector responses shall be in the form before Council this day.
     3.  The deadline for elector response forms shall be 4:00 pm on December 12, 2008.
     4.  The Municipal Clerk is authorized to prepare and publish a Notice of Alternative Approval Process.
     5.  A fair determination of the total number of eligible electors of the District of West Vancouver is 34,357.
MS: move motion as read
7. Development Permit Application No. 08-035 for Area 1 of the Rodgers Creek Area (located north of Chippendale Road and immediately west of Marr Creek) (File:  1010-20-08-035)
Please see attached report.
Geri Boyle: this is for area one and extending notification area
first draft of xxx; recommending forward to Design Review Cmte
a couple of aspects: ULDPs is supplemented by the Rodgers Crk
in area one, v much determined by the lay of the land and some  xxx
before Taylor's Lookout, had been plans for diversions and one goes right through this area
this is where you have to put the road, not many options
under that road, xxx water diversion
two variances: siting envelope on site 1, v wide and not too deep, asking rear setback be reduced, 30ft challenging so asked for 20ft
gradeline and retaining walls; need to construct retaining walls
BPP's proposing to construct them up front; just so can get road in, other one along Chippendale Rd create a forested area in front of the retaining wall; quite wide
don't have a perfect solution, retaining walls with forested area in front
don't meet current bylaw gradeline, a bit higher
DP wd amend the process
date for consideration wd be Nov 17
Sop: outside the enclave or prop line, the forested area will remain natural, not groomed?
GB: that is correct
RD moved DPA be considered Nov 17
ON SCREEN so try to find......

VV: ....the next ccl?
never [against?] with area one, not a problem with this project [8:52]

8. Development Permit Application No. 08-026 for 1434 Marine Drive (File:  1010-20-08-026)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the Municipal Clerk give notice that the Development Permit Application No. 08-026 for 1434 Marine Drive which provides for internal and external tenant improvements to an existing building will be considered at the meeting of Council on Monday, November 17, 2008.
Chuck Walker: I have a proposal/petition of granting a biz licence in this locale, signed by 95% of ppl in area, retailers, have not ... the real estate .....
160 ppl work out of our building, substantial damage
nobody wants to talk about it; say beyond
in the summary, approx 25 to 30 retailers, xxx
a lot of traffic in hat back lane, constant jam in the back, safety hazard, don't get a fire truck
other places cd locate; what they're trying to do is unreasonable; attached petitions
understand going to be reviewed Nov 17
16 public pkg spots back lane south side of Amb Lane, if you take all of the biz on the N side, there are 6 stalls and all have 'no parking signs'; traffic jam time there all the time now
behind Carmelo's and tinker store, they need
nothing else in that back lane, consequently all the bdgs 14th ... adamantly opposed, they're parking down the ramp
liquor store doesn't work... in and out; just works next to a grocery store
one wd not sign a petition b/c he wasn't sure of legal liabilities (English)
I'm opposed, 160 ppl in our bldg; don't want to burden you with 200 ppl here Nov 17 marching in
Thank you for your time
Mayor: Nov 17 and have two more ppl; obligated to do this?
SSch: intention Nov 17 for public comment but at Ccl's discretion
CW: thank you will be away Nov 17, wd get plane back
Noordin Madatali: office at 1571 Bellevue
bringing a couple of options
wonder why bringing up today when 17th is one day after the election
a lot of material been presented to staff; also heard my colleague, presentation to Ccl
based on report, I will have a lot of questions to bring up
will it have positive and negative, and this report only has positive
.... "enjoyable living", improving streets, encouraging 'alternative transport'
worst living nightmare in that laneway
... we had to present funding.....
to show the staff mbr; we're going to have this wonderful laneway, pedestrian walk along and enjoy coffee
between 9 and 3pm it's a war zone; look at the trucks that park ...
each and ev day I provide  parking........
oh, I'm just parking for a minute, going to HSBC, to Bean ...
I don't think all consideration to .........
laneways, and they will not be there
they want to buy booze and get out
parking will be a huge prob; pls consider this and not deferred to Nov 17
Mayor: one person wishing to speak
Jee Kooner [sp?]: ... have read Ms Parson's report... feel it does not ....  including elderly residents in the area
traffic concerns, large liquor trucks; unlike any other liq store in area; for many months we hv bn writing to Mr Sokol abut these matters
when he has responded, not ........
letter Nov 25th.... Ms Parsons is Oct..... she has not sought
Mayor: in whole point is to set a date for ... Nov
JK: will the new Ccl, with as many as four new mbrs; perhaps agenda shd be deferred to let them come up to par
paint the front, ... the back and these are the issues not addressed yet
VV: the new Ccl isn't sworn in until Dec 1st ....
when new Ccl has had time to study it
[Sop made motion]
Mayor: discussion about setting a date for Dec
MS: I'm opposed to deferring issues for political reasons
if so, with a polling station on Eagle Island, I'd hv ........
RD: going to hear; Ccl won't be here; Ccl shd hear, so seems reasonable to defer
Nov 17 is the last mtg;

{at this point Nov 24 mtg has been cancelled but they cd decide to have it for adoption or whatever}

a lot, finish the agenda before this Ccl expires; support deferring to Dec 8
JF: much as it wd be my last ccl mtg, I wd be delighted not to sit through
funnily enough I agree with Cclr Smith
ceremonial Dec 1; then pushed off to January; not decided, staff spend Christmas break working on the answers; think we shd go ahead; not able to attend and listen for themselves can watch
JC: agree with Cclr Smith; bldg is ugly; someone shd be in there cleaning up the space; think we shd take care of it
the incoming Ccl will take some time to get up to speed
Mayor: motion is Dec 8
SSch: seconder?
Sop: RD
Mayor: in favour? opposed? motion is DEFEATED
now original motion
Sop: guess for our final mtg, election will be over, will be last testament of this Ccl
question to our staff
under what obligation is .... to prov govt wrt lease to a bldg in our District
Sokol: speaking with our solicitor today; lease not .....
consider DP
Mayor: motion carries
Sop: going to be a great evening!
9. Community Engagement Committee - Status Report (File:  0116-20-CEC)
1.  The Community Engagement Committee (CEC) provide a working group orientation session for new working groups, and
2.  Council accept that staff time for meeting facilitation and note taking is needed, and that if a working group requires additional resources beyond regular meetings, a budget should be submitted to Council, and
3.  A meeting space inventory has been compiled and will be managed by the CEC support lead staff (Pascal Cuk), and
4.  Council amend the Guidelines for Working Groups for clarity on the role of elected trustees and School District 45 staff members, and
5.  The CAO ensure that the Guidelines for Working Groups are adhered to and that an on-going monitoring program be implemented.
Mayor: straightforward
10. Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4581, 2008 (Floor Area Ratio) - Building Permit Application for 856 Anderson Crescent and 2313 Nelson Avenue (File:  1010-01)  --  To be provided On Table.
Mayor: permitted?
SSch: just wrt withholding permit so permitted
Yegari: needs to be correct, application number needs to be corrected and address is not right
speaking as the architect and owner of  2313 Nelson
takes time to change ..... especially if your client is your wife
time and money to do it over again; esp if file before bylaw has been passed
I may have to change it b/c it may change; I'm concerned about ... excessive bulk
Sokol: he cannot address Ccl on content of bylaw, only on Permit
Yegari: my house
Mayor: but not bylaw, just about bldg permit
Yegari: so I can't so how no effect of the bylaws?
Sokol: whether in conflict of the bylaw and whether or not fair to withhold Bldg Permit
Yegari: not fair, hasn't passed all the hearings and hasn't been approved.......
Sokol: PA and Address are correct
Mayor: report is incorrect but motion is
VV: sgl fam dwelling 60 days b/c conflicts
Mayor: how long to process and current status?
Sokol: approx eight to ten weeks; the motion for 856 for an addl 60 days, hold on Oct 20 wd expire Nov 7 so go Jan 7
on 2313 Nelson will be 30 days from Oct 30? expire approx Nov 17
if adopted before, these bylaws will apply, if not can extend, and if for issuance, cd be an .... to apply for damages; before damages wd kick in, you'd have time
Mayor: recourse?
Sokol: only if did not approve and beyond time we be ready
Mayor: if changes and no longer conform, wd they come to Ccl?
Sokol: yes -- oh I take that back, they're FAR and you cannot do a bldg permit variance for FAR
Sop: ... are there delays?
Mayor: sorry? usually I can figure it out
Sop: ... if increase b/c of delays in areas I can't talk about
Sokol: won't try to rephrase question but can answer
according our solicitor, District only held resp if beyond the normal permit time
these relate to FAR exclusions
Mayor: I'm having difficulty with no recourse.....
11. Zoning Bylaw Rewrite - Creating a Contemporary Bylaw (File:  2515-24)
RECOMMENDED:  THAT the recommended process for undertaking a comprehensive update of the Zoning Bylaw as described in the October 15, 2008 report of the Associate Director of Major Projects be endorsed.
Sokol: on your work program for quite a while; review zoning bylaw since 1968
brief presentation then I will wrap-up
SJN: Have you ever heard me do a short presentation
Called a technical rewrite; adopted by Ccl 1968, 40 years old, 200 amendments
up to date but more complex with each amendment
we've eliminated 100 of 300 pages without changing it
on left [slide] base bylaw --> contemporary bylaw
things put to you by the WGs
housing variety, affordability, envtal, sec stes; fits topography, heritage, childcare, blasting , blvds
all will be broken up into smaller parts and will have to be rewritten
all of these policy amendments can be put in
Second page, technical rewrite, some things ambiguous
no LGA, Cmnty Charter and XXXX [9:30]
remove inconsistencies,  XXXXX , contemporary language
olde to old, His Majesty to Her Majesty
policy issues: zones, all stay the same; get into that with ccl debates
can't figure out bylaw will take out if no purpose, sometimes purpose no longer exists
will also respect topographical...
Sokol: in addn to technical rewrite; staff and Ccl will be addressing housing variety .......
come from reports from a variety of nbrhds, childcare WG , etc
soil ... last week
not new...  we'll be rewriting existing regulations
one of the concerns, .....  felt they weren't consulted
wd prefer a Task Force approach, not a lot of WGs
writing by cmte ....
believe smaller task forces more effective
moving forward with a interdeptal staff teams: Engg, Parks, Planning
focus group
to Ccl Design Review Cmte and will go to a PH; solicitor will be involved
initial draft coming forward in Nov -- in front of Ccl in early 2009
early in Ccl's term, prioritization
Sop: recently received recommendations from Character WG
Staff were going to return to us with some Dialogue or recommendations
what recs we were going to move forward with and wd have an array of changes
sgl-fam nbrhd
why start with bylaw reviews and changes when not made a decision on what we want ... and it will include sec stes and we haven't decided what we want to do?
Mayor: Cclr Sop
Sop: I'm getting to it
Mayor: Mr Nicholls wants
Sop: I'm not finished enough
SJN: without dealing with policy ....
dealt with nine WGs; probably come forward as discussion papers, and can xxx
pointing to slide, I'll be dealing with those on left
MS: we have 21 minutes left and I won't vote to extend so take items out
Mayor: straightforward
12. Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4581, 2008 (Interim Development Amendments) (File:  1610-20-4581)
This bylaw received first reading at the September 29, 2008 Special Meeting of Council, and a Public Hearing was held on October 20, 2008.
RECOMMENDED: THAT Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4581, 2008 be read a second time.
RECOMMENDED: ... be read a third time.
Mayor: suggest we go through it by parts
MS: ...
so first step wd be to place bylaw on floor to be read a second time
MS: second and third
Mayor: second
SSch:  directly forward for consideration
MS:  wrt first reading ... unchanged from first reading
Mayor: grade
MS: not proceed; staff be directed to..... public consultation on this issue
2.1 waterfront
almost 2.1.1 finally
retaining walls not proceed for further consideration at a public consultation
stacked rock walls
Mayor: these are amendments so
SSch: friendly amendment, add 'as amended'
Mayor: call question
JF: v supportive of the amendments; in Upper Lands no devt, and need DPs, not having these apply
Mayor: how accommodate that?
MS: irrelevant
JF: ...supporting that
MS: ...
Mayor: now third?
CARRIES? [9:45]
13. Soil Removal and Deposit Regulation Bylaw No. 3786, 1992, Amendment Bylaw No. 4582, 2008 (File:  1610-20-4582)
This bylaw received first reading at the September 29, 2008 Special Meeting of Council.
RECOMMENDED: THAT Soil Removal and Deposit Regulation Bylaw No. 3786, 1992, Amendment Bylaw No. 4582, 2008 be read a second time.
RECOMMENDED:  ... be read a third time.
SSch: can we follow the same procedure?
[RD moved second reading]
RD: then this is just read off?
Mayor: yes ...
SSch: friendly amendment as before
Sop: no ... 600cu.m down to 200
Sokol: or some other number or some other process
Sop: if someone says unjust to me b/c on rock...
Mayor: so we can refine ... third
SSch: may I consult
third reading not required b/c bylaw not proceeding
Bylaws are passed by a simple majority vote unless otherwise noted. Each reading of an Official Community Plan bylaw or bylaw amendment must receive an affirmative vote of a majority of all council members (majority is 4 members) in order for the bylaw to be adopted.
14. Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw
No. 4541, 2007; Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4540, 2007; and Development Permit No. 07-027 (445 13th Street) (File:  1010-20-07-027)
Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw  No. 4541, 2007 received third reading on July 28, 2008.
Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4540, 2007 received third reading on July 28, 2008.
RECOMMENDED: THAT Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw
No. 4541, 2007 be adopted.
RECOMMENDED: THAT Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4540, 2007 be adopted.
RECOMMENDED: THAT Development Permit No. 07-027 which would provide for 4 two-storey townhouse units, with 8 parking spaces under the building, be issued.
Sop: proximity with gas station; any safeguards?
Sokol: District wd not be liable; bldgs next to gas stations throughout prov
ADOPTED; Sop opposed
15. Waterworks Regulation Bylaw No. 4490, 2006, Amendment Bylaw No. 4584, 2008 (File:  1610-20-4584)
This bylaw received first, second, and third readings at the October 20, 2008 Special Meeting of Council.
RECOMMENDED: THAT Waterworks Regulation Bylaw No. 4490, 2006, Amendment Bylaw
No. 4584, 2008 be adopted.
16. Sewer and Drainage Utility Fee Bylaw No. 4538, 2007, Amendment Bylaw No. 4585, 2008 (File:  1610-20-4585)
This bylaw received first, second, and third readings at the October 20, 2008 Special Meeting of Council.
RECOMMENDED: ...be adopted.
17. Correspondence List  --  received for information.
Mayor: long service awards; CAO held on Sat night; plsed to honour, ten, 20, and 30 years
incredible amt of knowledge phenomenal; heartwarming; our employees well-respected
exciting, heartfelt; opp to say thanks
Mayor: today Stephen Point giving award
[9: 50]
Mayor:  I have some ppl wishing to address us.  Beginning with Carolanne Reynolds.
CR: Thank you v much, Madam Mayor.
I'd just want to thank you and add appreciation about the heritage report.  As you know, I'm on the Heritage WG, and so, to thank Cclr Vaughan for her liaison and her lovely hat at the tea [RoyalTea-by-the-Sea], and to you for your work wrt trying to save the Graham House, and to all of Ccl proceeding with trying to restore the Gleneagles Great Hall.  So we've come a long way, and it's really appreciated with all your goodwill and your good efforts.  Thank you very much.
Dave Lust: Hugo Ray Park re letter from Dir/Parks; higher cost
KP: haven't brought those reports to Ccl; until then, results preliminary
funds, always intended to bring forward
provide you the nec assurances prior to making any decisions to proceed on this project
Mayor: ??
KP: ... free of any contamination; shd be done by mid-Nov
complications, limited number of mtgs between now and end of year
DL: will direct ... defer reporting until after a ... has been found ... and any other affected nbrhd
Mayor: my understanding always together; traffic critical
Mr Pike to comment further
KP: also ... parking, egress

Mayor: need motion to extend
MS: anyone else?
Mayor:  a couple
MS: will agree to 10:10

Mayor: Stephen Given
SG: in this entire ... we have repeatedly asked that existing problems
[vehicles] to and from ... often at high speed prior
we feel we've been ignored on this
mtg with Mr Dozzi, nbrhd traffic study wd hv to be done on direction of Ccl
asking Ccl to do that, traffic calming
make it possible for ppl in nbrhd to walk safely
Mayor: best person on staff to answer
RF: true orig scope did not include traffic calming along Mathers or Hadden Dr
my understanding from Mr Dozzi is that we're giving consideration to that now
not with funding wch wd have to go with xxxxx
staff putting together cost estimates
SG: feel this is separate from Hugo Ray
primarily shortcuts to Collingwood, to Brit Prop ater this, three churches, daycares; all se from HRPk of field hockey or cricket
not part of HRPark
Mayor: understand what you're saying; Hadden has been going on for some time
Sop: are we excluded from speaking
Mayor: got five minutes left; Ccl is well aware
Craig Turner: on June 9
HRPS, or HRPS 2008? [apparently two groups], said $2M ... [only raised?] 800K
may I respectfully ask how much field hockey has?
Mayor: think Mr P has already answered
SG?: wish to pass to Mr Barr
Mayor: Ms Whishall
JWhishall: further to the HRPk update with the five motions that have to be passed to go further
distressed to receive this brochure [ostensibly update from 'Council' but many treat as pre-election brochure]
says $2M and ... seems from ...
to this declaration that it really was a done deal
what to know why put into this brochure not hain come to Ccl
Mayor: don't know ... ?
JW: seems to say; think done deal
Mayor: think it's under the partnership ...
has $2M; needs traffic; ... follow through with cmnty so cmnty knows
KP: moving forward on Ccl resoln, not brochure
quite clear...
JW: terrible; this announcement most uncalled-for and untimely
above all
to here... and ppl listening a game; caused a huge rift with my friends
build a cmnty
breaks my heart to think it has gone on so long, staff time, expense from taxpayers and ourselves
do hope we can have some help from this Ccl perhaps next Ccl...
stop any damage and wedges in our cmnty
KP: have suggested to get together Field Hockey and nbrs

Mayor: two different times on clocks
MS: it's 10:07 Madam Mayor, next speaker can have his three minutes
Robert Barr: Cclr Smith, pls bear with me, I might go 3:15sec,
MS: I'm timing you!
RB:... impact of 8000+ players through our nbrhd
quiet enjoyment due... reduced access of nbrs to their own nbrhd park!
decimation of Cricket..... top level
stream of questions un ........  conditions
you leave behind a nbrhd in chaos; oppose this ill-gotten plan
jobs, professions, family relationships, XXXX have
our nbrhd...  families are scarred
Field hockey, HRPS, or HRPS2008

{found out that -- well what I've been told -- cricket and field hockey did joint fund-raising then parting of ways and then Field Hockey formed a new assn, HRPark Society 2008 and legal case over the original $800K raised that Cricket says shd be part theirs.}

sp mtgs more time; this plethora of point and counterpoint
one nbrhd split b/c of misinformation
staff aware ... broke out ... close ... suffered abuse... so disobey
caused the nbrs to avail themselves of legal avenue to get info
{went to FOI wch cost $3-4K}
freely given to FIELD hockey?
then yielded only half during wch time the person on your staff resigned
[DWV to pay?] started out at $600K to $1M and now up again to $1.5M
Mayor: Mr Barr
RB: one more paragraph; tonight heard no report, envtal factors
this Ccl has all but abandoned the Hugo Ray Park area in favour of sports
like to remind you the HRPS, this is merely a game of hockey, [for us] our lives, dreams, homes
if Ccl can't see the error of their ways in dealing with this continuing mess; little hope for the rest of WV as a good place to bring up our families.... to walk safely in the sunset years of our lives ... be protected from outside agencies coming full of promises waving dollar bills.
This is your sad legacy and one wch you cannot be proud of.  Thank you.
Mayor: motion to adjourn
   NB: The residents say they have updated their website:  http://www.westvancouver.com/hugoray/

===  CCL AGENDA Nov 17  ===
October 20, 2008 Special Council Meeting; and October 27, 2008 Regular Council Meeting.
3. Development Permit Application No. 08-035 for Area 1 of the Rodgers Creek Area (located north of Chippendale Road and immediately west of Marr Creek) (File:  1010-20-08-035)
At the October 27, 2008 meeting, Council received the report dated October 21, 2008 from the Manager, Community Planning
THAT the proposed Development Permit Application attached to the report from the Manager, Community Planning dated October 21, 2008 be received for consideration.
RECOMMENDED:  THAT all written and verbal submissions regarding DPA be received for information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED: THAT Staff report back to Council regarding submissions
RECOMMENDED: THAT the DPA which would allow for site development, subdivision and single family house construction, be approved.
4. Development Permit Application No. 08-026 for 1434 Marine Drive (File:  1010-20-08-026)
See related correspondence items (15) and (16).
At the October 27, 2008 meeting, Council received the report dated October 16, 2008 from the Urban Design Planner titled "Development Permit Application No. 08-026 for 1434 Marine Drive".
RECOMMENDED:  THAT the proposed Development Permit Application ... be received for consideration.
RECOMMENDED: THAT all written and verbal submissions be received for information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED:  THAT Staff report back to Council
RECOMMENDED: THAT the DPA which would allow for internal and external tenant improvements to an existing building, be approved.

5. Community Amenity Contribution Allocation Policy (File:  1008-00)
RECOMMENDED:  THAT Council adopt the Community Amenity Contribution Allocation Policy (Appendix A) attached to the October 29, 2008 report from the Director of Planning, Lands and Permits.
6. Council Support for 2009 Community Health Promotion Fund - "Building Connections for Older Adults Health Promotion" Pilot Project
RECOMMENDED: THAT the Union of British Columbia Municipalities (UBCM) be advised that the District of West Vancouver fully supports the "Building Connections for Older Adults Health Promotion" pilot project and is willing to provide overall administrative support including financial management for the project.
7. Greater Vancouver Regional District Regional Emergency Management Service Establishment Bylaw No. 1079, 2008 (File: 2720-02-01/0185-01)
RECOMMENDED: THAT Council endorse the Memorandum of Understanding and Greater Vancouver Regional District Regional Emergency Management Service Establishment Bylaw No. 1079, 2008 and accept the funding formula as being property value based subject to a Task Force being struck to examine the larger issue of funding regional services and report back to the Board prior to the next budget cycle.
8. Council Meeting Schedule for December 8, 2008 (File:  0120-01)
THAT the Council Workshop scheduled for December 8, 2008 be changed to a Special Council Meeting to be held on December 8, 2008 at 7:00 pm in the Municipal Hall Council Chamber.
9. Bylaw Notice Enforcement Bylaw No. 4368, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4583, 2008
RECOMMENDED: THAT Bylaw Notice Enforcement Bylaw be read a first, second and third time.
10. Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4586, 2008 - Business Licence Fees
RECOMMENDED: three readings
11. Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4581, 2008 - Interim Development Amendments
This bylaw received 2nd reading, as amended and received 3rd reading at the October 27, 2008 Council meeting.
12. Correspondence List (File: 0120-24)
Correspondence received up to October 31, 2008
Requests for Delegation  --  No items presented.
Action Required  --  No items presented.
No Action Required (receipt only)
1.  Committee and Board Meeting Minutes
        (a) West Vancouver Design Review Committee - July 24, 2008
2.  M. Gaudry, Burrard Inlet Environmental Action Program/Fraser River Estuary Management Program, October 20, 2008, regarding District Staff Involvement
3.  October 29, 2008, regarding Eagle Island Access and Egress Upgrades
4.  October 28, 2008, regarding Whitby Residents' Traffic Safety Concerns
5.  Cascadia Region Green Building Council, Undated, regarding Living Communities Cascadia Coalition
6.  B. Turner and I. Campagnolo, The Land Conservancy, October 22, 2008, regarding The Land Conservancy Five Year Plan
        Attachments available for viewing in the Legislative Services Department.
Responses to Correspondence
7.  B. Dozzi, Manager of Roads and Transportation, October 24, 2008, regarding Ambleside Gateway Project - Landscaping
8.  B. Dozzi, Manager of Roads and Transportation, October 24, 2008, regarding Truck and Traffic Noise
9.  B. Dozzi, Manager of Roads and Transportation, October 24, 2008, regarding BC Hydro Power Poles and Lines
Responses to Questions in Question Period  --  No items presented.
Correspondence received up to November 7, 2008
Requests for Delegation
10.  A. Van Eden, North Shore Family Court and Youth Justice Committee, October 30, 2008, regarding 2007 Annual Report
Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration/response.  Attachments available for viewing in Legislative Services Dept.
Action Required
11.  L. E. Jackson, Metro Vancouver, November 6, 2008, regarding Use of Disposable Shopping Bags
        Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.
No Action Required (receipt only)
12.  Committee and Board Meeting Minutes
        (a) North Shore Advisory Committee on Disability issues - September 25, 2008
13.  D. Marshall, Fraser Basin Council, October 17, 2008, regarding Smart Planning for Communities - Introducing Your Sustainability Facilitators
        Attachments available for viewing in Legislative Services Department.
14.  November 3, 2008, regarding Increasing Costs of Water Supply
15.  S. Plater, November 11, 2008, regarding 1434 Marine Drive Development Permit
16.  M. & L. Burke, October 29, 2008, regarding 1434 Marine Drive Development Permit
Responses to Correspondence  --  No items presented.
Responses to Questions in Question Period -- No items presented.

===   NEWSWATCH   ===
+ from CNN -- in 1978 the USA was 90% white: in 2008 74%
+ from VSun 2008 Oct 27 pA7
-  Where at the end of WW2, the U.S, accounted for more than half the world's economic output, today it accounts for a quarter of the output but half of world military expenditure.
-  The crisis vindicates Winston Churchill's pity assessment that if socialism suffers from the vice of an equal sharing of misery, then capitalism is afflicted with the vie of an unequal sharing of affluence.
+ from BBC
Iceland's interest rate up to 18%  Iceland's central bank raises its key interest rate to 18% from 12% as the country battles against financial collapse.
+ from The Economist
Oct 30th, into the electoral maze: Tzipi v Bibi -- Israel's election and America's role                                
+  from PNN  (Irony?)
Museum of Tolerance atop Muslim cemetery: a war against the dead
02.11.08 - 10:07
Jerusalem / Maisa Abu Ghazaleh - With the Israeli Supreme Court decision to allow the building of a "Museum of Tolerance" atop what was Jerusalem's main Muslim cemetery until 1948, national and religious figures are calling for major protests.
Arab and foreign consuls met in East Jerusalem's Ambassador Hotel to discuss the situation and create a plan of action in light of the loss of the court case that began in 2006.
Mufti of Jerusalem, Sheikh Mohammad Hussein said that the Israeli ruling is criminal as it allows for the "attack on the tombs and bones of Muslims." The Israelis began exhuming Muslim graves in Mamilla Cemetery in 2006. Construction was ordered to halt during court proceedings. However, Israeli developers continued to exhume graves.
Head of the Islamic Movement, Sheikh Ra'ed Salah described the situation as catastrophic. He noted that 70,000 graves fill the 200 dunam cemetery which has tombs dating back thousands of years.
Sheikh Salah said that Israeli projects include building a large hotel on part of the cemetery, extending a sewage network, laying streets and establishing the "Independence Park."
 He said that naming the museum "Tolerance" illustrates "their utter disdain. They have raped our holy places in the name of tolerance." Sheikh Salah also noted that an Israeli American is undertaking the project with 200 million USD coming from California. It is backed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. The museum is a sister project for the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center.
The Head of the Islamic Movement, Sheikh Salah, said, "This resolution is a serious violation of all the holy sites and not only to one cemetery. There are other graves under threat, graves that symbolize our historical background, our culture and religion."
Sheikh Salah called on the citizens of Jerusalem to continue visits to shrines and the graves of their relatives buried in the cemetery and to continue with maintenance of graves, stressing the need to initiate practical steps to preserve Jerusalem and its holy sites.
For his part the governor of Jerusalem Adnan Husseini said that the Mamilla Cemetery is an "important site in Jerusalem. With the seizure of the west of the city the cemetery is going from 200 dunams to 20. This is unacceptable. It's a war on the dead."
Husseini noted, "The Department of Islamic Endowments gave to the Jews 300 dunums of land to bury their dead but they are now attacking the Islamic cemetery which is a safe place. The Israeli courts did not allow for any Palestinian rights since 1948, but instead have manipulated time and deferred to the Israeli government's plans to swallow the ground. The Israeli authorities prevented the restoration of the cemetery safe and build a fence to protect them."
Advisor to Prime Minister Salam Fayyad on Jerusalem Affairs, Hatem Abdel Qader denounced the Israeli claim that building the Museum of Tolerance on the cemetery would have no Palestinian reaction. "This is reckless disregard, an unprecedented assault on the land. The issue is not just of bulldozing the graves and bones, but the bulldozing of dignity."
Abdel Qader said he had contact with a number of Arab ambassadors who expressed their willingness to work to prevent such work in Mamilla Cemetery. Part of the new campaign includes outreach to European officials and a concerted effort from Palestinian Muslims and Christians. Chairman of the Commission on Graves, Mustafa Abu Zahra, said that delegations are currently being formed to visit Arab states and Islamic institutions to support their demands to stop the ongoing violations of the cemetery.
from:  http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3882&Itemid=1
[An earlier report in The Independent (UK)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-plans-to-build-museum-of-tolerance-on-muslim-graves-466028.html ]

===   THEATREWATCH   ===
Saw David Hare's "Stuff Happens" (Rumsfeld's remark when asked about the looting in Baghdad) at the Firehall; about the leadup to the pre-emptive strike.  Much we knew from our own reading, etc.  The last line, though, is a lesson/warning (said by an Iraqi): it's your responsibility to run/govern your own country, or see what happens [pointing over his shoulder].  They'll come and run it for you.

===   ANIMALWATCH   ===  -- just too cute!
+  Chimpanzee takes care of white tiger cubs - Telegraph 14 Nov 2008 ... This picture shows a chimpanzee playing foster mum to two white tiger cubs.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3445267/Chimpanzee-takes-care-of-white-tiger- cubs.html
Anjana the chimpanzee befriends two white tiger cubs in South ... - 11 Oct 2008 ... SEE cute pictures of a chimpanzee playing with a pair of adorable white tiger cubs.

===  QUOTATIONS  ===

If people better understood the danger of using certain words, dictionaries would be displayed in bookstore windows wrapped in a red band: 'Explosive. Handle with care'
                        -- Andre Maurois
The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.  -- John Kenneth Galbraith
Finance is the art of passing money from hand to hand until it finally disappears.  -- Robert W. Sarnoff
Conscience is the still, small voice which tells a candidate that what he is doing is likely to lose him votes.
                        -- Anonymous
If you want to be thought a liar, always tell the truth.  -- Logan Pearsall Smith