Ccl NOTES Nov 16
Calendar to Dec 20

by Carolanne Reynolds, Editor

Is Tiger out of the woods?
=  MAIN ITEMS Dec 7th: SAC; Civic Site parking; Climate Action WG; Technical Tour of Sweden report; 2010 Preview Assessment Roll; Utilities Infrastructure Management; Dundarave Signage ($7K); Second and third readings for HBBiz and Sec Stes; 2009 Budget Amendment (~$300K more! and staff recommend introduced and all three readings); DVPs to be heard Jan 11 on 6165 Gleneagles and 1313 Fulton even though apparently what required a permit has already been built!; Correspondence on the Fish and Chips stand, Hollyburn Ridge cabins, renaming Srs' Ctr, and adherence to the mtg requirements of the Cmnty Charter (or rather lack of)
Vive le Canada (British Commonwealth's 60th); ANIMALWATCH (Elephants, Honeybees, amazing Leopard Seal encounter; singing animals; Saving the Madagascar Pochard); from the EDITOR'S DESK (Finance Cmte and Budget, Disappearing Acts???); UPDATES (Public Viewing-Platform; Oil Tank Permits)
=  CALENDAR to Dec 20th; CULTUREWATCH (Theatre, Music, Opera)
= Ccl Mtg NOTES Nov 16th: Public Hearing on Secondary Suites then at the ccl mtg: WV Cmnty Ctrs Services Society's Strategic Plan; Integrated Resource Recovery; Hollyburn Ridge Cabins' Fee Increase; Eagle Island Parking; Housing Pilot Prog Interim Report; Ev Dr Devt street-naming (one is Arthur Erickson Place); Spirit Trail; Westmount Traffic Calming; Licence for Child Care Ctr at Gordon House
=  Ccl Mtg Agenda Dec 7th
=  INFObits (Home Chn; Doctor for Peace; InfoFacts; P3 -- Political Philosophy Pondering, Slavoj Zizek); BEERWATCH (32%!; Big Beer); NEWSWATCH (Borders); BOOKWATCH (Ifferisms); WEBWATCH (US Navy Drill Team):  LANGUAGEWATCH (Cape Spear, NL); NEWWORDWATCH (Twittering); Quotations and Silliness (Tiger Woods Jokes)

Guess the literary reference:
                If you die drunk, do you stay tipsy for eternity?

===  Vive le Canada  === (British) Commonwealth -- 60th Anniversary
The celebration of the 60th anniversary in Trinidad Tobago highlights the intangible gentle cultural closeness and cooperation so important in productive positive relationships.  It's a credit to its tradition and worth is that two independent countries that were not former colonies ASKED to join.
From:  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article6936983.ece
Rwanda became the 54th member of the Commonwealth yesterday and the second nation to join that was not once part of the British Empire.
The Commonwealth summit approved Rwanda's entry at its two-yearly gathering in Trinidad and Tobago. Britain pushed hard for the admission of the former Francophone country.
A spokesman for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office said: "Rwanda has made progress towards the Commonwealth's core values in areas of democratic process, rule of law, good governance, protection of human rights, and equality of opportunity."

Nairobi, Kenya (CNN) -- Sala saunters in the red soil, her wrinkled skin glistening in the sun as she tries to keep up with the rest of the herd.  It is hard to believe the six-week-old, dwarfed by her human keeper, will grow up to be one of nature's biggest beasts.  http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/11/18/kenya.elephants.conservation/index.html
Whole Show Blow-by-Blow -- The Current for November 25, 2009
Van Morrison's classic song, Tupelo Honey is a confection made by honeybees in the American southeast. But honeybees make much more than tasty sweets.  From the Arctic to the equator, they are nature's most prolific pollinators. By some accounts, every third bite of food we take is due to the fruit of the pollinating labour of bees.  But bees are in big trouble right now. In the last three years alone, an estimated 50 Billion honeybees have died. That's hit agricultural producers hard and set off a frantic quest to find the causes of what's being called colony collapse disorder.  Reese Halter looks at the evolution of bees and their uncertain future in his new book, The Incomparable Honeybee and the Economics of Pollination. He's a conservation biologist who founded the group Global Forest Science. And he was in Pasadena, California.
I found this utterly fascinating.  For example the bees have a quorum to decide what to do, to move the hive,  You can listen to the comments, the first bit of part three on http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2009/200911/20091125.html
Face-Off With a Deadly Predator -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxa6P73Awcg
>  Series of animals
Video:  22 Dec 08: BBC Breathing Places Christmas song.
> Saving the Madagascar Pochard
By Charlie * November 13, 2009
Much of the following article is based on information from Dr Glyn Young of the Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust, who has been extremely generous both with his information and time. Our thanks go to him.
In 2006 the Madagascar Pochard Aythya innotata - one of the world's rarest birds - was listed by the IUCN as Critically Endangered (Possibly Extinct).
STOP PRESS: 25 Nov 09
And then there were 24!
More truly excellent news from the researchers working on saving the Madagascar Pochard - this time on the Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust Pochard Team blog. The first line of the WWTPT's post runs: "A short text from Owen this evening says it all: "100% hatch just complete. Massive grins." Congratulations to all involved!
Photo copyright Glyn Young, Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust

===  from the EDITOR'S DESK  ===
***  from the WVM Update 25a sent Nov 17:
The Finance Cmte scheduled for tomorrow, Wed, at 9am is marked as cancelled however have been told it will be held but will be closed.  Hope this will be sorted out soon b/c all mtgs are to start out open according to the Cmnty Charter.  Some provisions for in camera are 'must' and some are 'may' so Council can decide how open they want to be.  They vote on a motion/resolution wrt closure.
You know most ran on openness and transparency but the Finance Cmte appears to be cloudy.
You will recall the Finance Cmte from last year was abruptly terminated in December.  The new one this year (composed only of Ccl mbrs, no residents as in the past) has only met June 18, 22, and Oct 7 according to the FCmte webpage however the Oct 28 mtg marked cancelled was held and heard the same for Nov 9th.  Tomorrow's mtg, Nov 18th, is also marked cancelled but was told it wd be held however marked cancelled b/c it was a closed mtg.  So far the Nov 25th mtg is still listed......
UPDATE:  It was marked cancelled as well
Some of you have asked when we'll get the budget info to digest and think about especially since 2010 will probably have unprecedented challenges.  Vancouver's increase has been limited to 2% it was announced along with laying off staff; the prov may have a staff salary freeze; each area will probably make different compromises and decisions but there needs to be time for the public to read the documentation to be able to make constructive thoughtful recommendations.  We had been told it wd start in May or June yet November's almost over.
Delaying until January is not a big problem b/c the budget need not be passed until May 15 but we need the facts and variables for our struggle.  We sympathize with how difficult this is going to be for Ccl and staff but wish they wd see us more as partners -- the collaboration referred to in the Vision -- than recipients of info either too late, incomplete, or previously massaged.
UPDATE: Still no news; in fact the V4S presentation was done in camera instead of at the Nov 16th ccl mtg as planned and originally noted on the DWV website (and WG's webpage).

===  UPDATES  ===
*  LEISURE GUIDE -- is out!  See http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=18338
*  Public Platform at Brothers Creek
Streamkeepers were pleased to see the completion of this viewing platform they worked with Ccl and staff on.  The official opening was Nov 19 -- great coverage in Outlook with photos.  See: http://www.bclocalnews.com/greater_vancouver/northshoreoutlook/community/78349352.html?utm_source=North+Shore+Outlook+Weekly+Newsletter&utm_campaign=e972763cea-Newsletter_Issue_48_13_2008&utm_medium=email
*  Changes to Fees for Underground Oil Tanks
Friday, December 04, 2009 --  http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=23316
Many homes built between the 1920s and 1960s used oil as a heating fuel, with oil tanks buried close to the foundation of a home. Residential Underground Oil Tanks (RUSTs) have an average life of 20 to 25 years, after which they can begin to leak hazardous materials. If an oil tank should leak, the property owner is responsible for the clean up of hazardous waste. A permit is required for the removal of an underground oil tank.  Last year, Council reduced the fee for oil tank removal to encourage residents to remove them. This year, Council passed a further fee to cover the cost of ongoing monitoring of tanks not yet removed.
West Vancouver Fire and Rescue has a comprehensive program in place to assist residents through the process of oil tank removal. Please visit the RUSTs web page (LINK) for more information, including checklists and records search.
More Information:   Residential Underground Fuel Storage Tanks (RUSTS) 
Letter to residents from the Mayor and Fire Chief - December 3rd, 2009
Dear Resident,
On behalf of Council and the Fire Department, I wish to apologize for the approach taken in the Bulletin mailing you received last week.  We have received literally hundreds of calls objecting to and seeking an understanding of various aspects of this letter.  I would like to clarify Council's decision.
Last year Council reduced the fee for oil tank removal from $525 to $315, in order to encourage oil tank removal - and we saw an increase in removal of tanks.  This year, Council passed a further fee to cover the cost of ongoing monitoring for tanks not yet removed.  We wish to ensure that homeowners are working towards removing these tanks.
As a result of your feedback, we know that many of you are now acting to remove old tanks.  This has always been our goal.  The $250 fee for ongoing monitoring will not apply to you if you remove the old tank by June 1, 2010.
We also wish to allow a reasonable amount of time for homeowners to address whether they have an oil tank and for its removal if that is the case.  The $250 fee, for existing oil tanks, will not be due until June 1, 2010.
Finally, we have done our best to handle a deluge of calls, and have made a record of your concerns.  Council and the Fire Department are very grateful for your prompt feedback.
Sincerely,  {Signed by the Mayor}

==  CALENDAR to Dec 20th  =====
Pls note that ALL mtgs are at M Hall (usually in the MFCR, Main Floor Conference Room, but sometimes in the chamber) unless indicated otherwise.  Additions and changes can occur at any time so best to check the DWV website calendar wrt cmtes and WGs that are of interest to you.  Often cmte/WG mtgs are not posted or confirmed until a couple of days beforehand so this is a moving target!]
+++  Changes after WVM25 came out in red (Nov):
Finance Cmte Nov 9th,18th -- who knows? mtgs marked cancelled were held!!! same for 25th?
~ 6pm ~ Wed Nov 18th ~ Child Care WG mtg (CANCELLED)
=  Monday, Nov 23
        ~ 1:30pm ~ Official Opening of Walking Bridge over Capilano (east end of Clyde)
=  Wednesday, Nov 25
        ~ 9am ~ Finance Cmte (CANCELLED)
        ~ 2pm ~ Launch of Seniors' Shuttle Partnership with Amica (659 Clyde)
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Strategic Transportation Plan WG
        ~ 7pm ~ Bd of Variance
        ~ 7pm ~ WV Historical Society mtg at Srs' Ctr
Warren Sommer, author of The Ambitious City - A History of the City of North Vancouver, will be speaking about his book celebrating the 100th anniversary of the founding of North Vancouver.
=  Thursday, Nov 26
        ~ 4pm ~ Climate Action WG in Cedar Room, Cmnty Ctr
        ~ 5pm ~ NSh Adv Cmte on Diability Issues at DNV M Hall
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Housing Pilot Prog WG
        ~ 5:30pm ~ WV Police Bd mtg in Police Board Room
~ 7pm ~ Shifting Gears Free Public Lectures
Sponsored by the Bombardier Foundation and the Active Transport Lab at UBC and BC Recreation and Parks Association. UBC Robson Square. Free admission - reservations required. Call 778 782 5100 or email cstudies@sfu.ca and for complete details, download: Shifting Gears Flyer
Learning from Toronto: Elyse Parker, Public Realm Section, Toronto's Transportation Services
=  Saturday, Nov 28
        ~ 1pm ~ Dundarave Festival of Lights
        ~ 2pm ~ ADRA AGM (details in WVM25)
=  Sunday, Nov 29
~ 3pm ~ Fabiana Katz Fustion Latina -- Concert at St Francis in the Wood, 4773 S Piccadilly
        Advance tix $15 available at the door or phone 922 5685

~~~  DUNDARAVE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS; Nov 28 to Jan 6  ~~~
including Dundarave Nativity Sat Dec 5; Music in Dundarave Village Dec 12; Festival Bonfire Night Dec 20
For details, see: http://festivaloflights.weebly.com/

=  Wednesday Dec 2nd
        ~ 5pm ~ Strategic Transportation Plan WG Open House 5pm in the Cmnty Ctr atrium
        ~ Chamber of Commerce Christmas Dinner (details in WVM25)
=  Thursday Dec 3rd
        ~ 5pm ~ Cmnty Engagemnt Cmte [CANCELLED]
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Housing Pilot Prog WG at Cmnty Ctr, Mtn Rm
        ~ 6pm ~ Honour a Life (details in WVM25)
        ~ 6:30pm ~ Cmte Grants Cmte at Cmnty Ctr, Cedar Room
=  Friday Dec 4th
        ~ 7:30pm ~ NSh Chorus presents "Snap! Crackle! and Snow!" at St Stephen's (885 - 22nd)
                Info 604 983 6444, vmail box 137. Tix available at the door.
=  Wednesday Dec 9th
        ~ 6pm ~ Library Bd mtg at Library
        ~ 7:15pm ~ Field Sports Forum WG at Cmnty Ctr, Mtn Room
=  Thursday Dec 10th
        ~ 4pm ~ Climate Action WG at Cmnty Ctr, Mtn Room
        ~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte [CANCELLED]
=  Friday Dec 11th
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Strategic Planning WG
The Land Conservancy ~ 4 - 7pm ~ Eagles Estate Heritage Garden (5655 Sperling, Bby); Ph: 604 733 2313
Newsletter link: http://blog.conservancy.bc.ca/wp-content/plugins/mailpress/mp-includes/action.php?tg=l&mm=1181&co=p&us=5c70cea82c21abf298791bbc39c094abwp-content/plugins/mailpress/mp-includes/action.php?tg=l&mm=1170&co=p&us=5c70cea82c21abf298791bbc39c094ab
=  Thursday Dec 17th
        ~ 6pm ~ NSh Family Court / Youth Justice Cmte at DNV M Hall [CANCELLED]
=  Friday Dec 18th
        ~ 3:15pm ~ free cmnty concert in the atrium of the Cmnty Ctr
=  Sunday Dec 20th
        ~ 7pm ~ West Vancouver Bonfire and Carol Ships at Dundarave Beach

- for Events and Programs: http://www.westvanlibrary.ca/index.php?page=5       
- for Event Calendar: http://www.westvanlibrary.ca/event/calendar.php
BOOK SALE !  Don't miss out on the Friends of the Library Book Sale!
          Friday, Dec 4th and Saturday, Dec 5th from 10am to 5pm
          PRE-SALE for Friends of the Library Members 6:30 - 8:30pm Thursday, Dec 3rd
        (Memberships available at the door $10)
+ Hard Cover & Paperbacks + Trade Paperbacks + "Red Dot Books" individually priced + Videos + CDs + Cassettes + Puzzles individually priced  + Children's Books as marked +
=  Teen Movie Night, 6pm Thurs Dec 10
Grab your friends and come to the Library for a special screening of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.  Free popcorn and drinks!  Presented by the Teen Advisory Group.
=  ENGLISH CORNER  --  FRIDAYS  ~ 10 - 11:30am ~
       Practise English conversation, discuss interesting topics, make new friends: Dec 4, 11.
=  Philosophers' Cafe -- Thursday Dec 17
How are Christmas celebrations enhanced or diminished without Christmas presents? Join us 10:30am - 12:30pm in the Elizabeth Musto room to discuss.  No registration required. Admission $5
=  My West Vancouver - A Photo Contest
The Library's first annual "My West Vancouver" photo contest! You are invited to submit your photos of West Vancouver that capture the spirit and beauty of the place we live and love.
Submission deadline: 3pm Friday Dec 18
+++  FERRY BUILDING GALLERY  +++ http://ferrybuildinggallery.com/
*  Nov 20 - Dec 19  --  The Ferry Building Gallery invites you to "GREAT STUFF"
An exhibition and sale of unique crafts, fine artwork, and distinctive gifts at affordable prices from over 40 of the best artists and artisans, just in time for the Christmas shopper!
Special Gallery Hours: 10am - 6pm; late Friday shopping until 8pm; closed Monday.

+++ SILK PURSE +++  http://www.silkpurse.ca/
=  November 30 - Dec 2  -- "3 Day Art Auction & Sale"
Well-known and highly recognized Capilano University IDEA (Illustration and Design) students create images of Vancouver, based on art by world famous artists, led by faculty member and respected artist Kiff Holland. Buy that special piece of art for a fraction of the cost of other art works!
Opening Reception: TUES Dec 1st from 6 - 8pm
=  December 3 - 20   --  "Seeing Red"
VISUALS, a group of twenty-eight (28) talented Squamish and North Shore artists offering a unique Christmas exhibit of art work in all mediums and all sizes, with prices that will make each piece easily accessible for purchase for that special friend or family member. Join us for the Holiday season and buy a piece of original Canadian art! Happy Holidays!
Opening Reception: SAT Dec 5th from 2:30 - 4:30pm
+++  WV MUSEUM  +++  Visit:  http://westvancouvermuseum.ca/
November 10 to December 23
Greetings from Friends: Mid-Century Art Cards 1945 - 1975
       showcases a collection of greeting cards, drawings, and prints designed by prominent regional artists and architects, including B.C. Binning, Gordon Smith, Alistair Bell, Don Jarvis, Jack Shadbolt, Arthur Erickson, and others. The cards reveal an interconnected social network among artists and architects who were the vanguard of the region's art and design scene. The intimate and compact format of a limited-edition artist greeting lends itself well to experimentation and humour.
BC Binning: Works from the Collection
       features artwork donated to the Museum by the Estate of Jessie Binning in 2008. Bertram Charles Binning was a central figure in the development of regional mid-century art and design; in 1971 he was honoured with the Order of Canada. BC Binning, born in Medicine Hat, Alberta, grew up in Vancouver. He taught at the Vancouver School of Art and the School of Architecture at the University of British Columbia where he also founded the Department of Fine Arts.  The tectonics of the North Shore topography became the primary element driving Binning's graphic style. Early in his career Binning chose drawing as primary mode of expression, with a simple and precise line as its driving force. The majority of the works in BC Binning: Works from the Collection come from this exciting period in Binning's practice.
Opening Reception ~ Monday November 9th, 7 - 9pm

o  To see a list of events: http://kaymeekcentre.com/on_stage/events_calendar
o  To see the electronic newsletter, the address is http://kaymeekcentre.weebly.com.
o  To get onto the mail list: the simplest method is to call the box office (913 3634) or email tickets@kaymeekcentre.com
...from End of November
Three Clever Pigs - Tuesday, November 24, 10:30am
Movies at the Meek: Waterlife - Tuesday, November 24, 7:30pm
The North Shore Celtic Ensemble: Celebrating A Decade - Thursday, November 26, 7:30pm
Elvis Elvis Elvis - Friday, November 27, 8pm
The Art of Accordion: JELENA MILOJEVIC - Friday, November 27, 8pm
Pray The Devil Back To Hell - Monday, November 30, 7:30pm
Cascadia Eurythmy - A Fairy Tale Christmas - Thursday, December 3 at 11am and 8pm
Pandora's Vox & Espiritu: Singing For A Claus - Fri, Dec 4 at 8pm; Sat, Dec 5 at 2 and 8pm
Lynn Valley Black Bear Band Winter Concert - Monday, December 7 at 7pm
Harmony House Winter Express - Fri, Dec 11 at 7pm and Sat, Dec 12 at 5pm
Stagecraft Theatre School - Sat, Dec 12 at 10:30am and 2pm
Vancouver Youth Symphony Orchestra - Sun, Dec 13 at 7:30pm
Aliqua presents 'All I Want'  Christmas album release)- Mon, Dec 14 at 7:30pm

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The Winter Issue of "The Torch" is now available.
 To view the newsletter, just click the following link for direct access:
As well, here is the link to the Military Service Recognition Book Submission Form mentioned in Peter Cherry's Memorabilia Report. Page 1 - http://www.westvan60.com/Images/scan0013.jpg  Page 2 - http://www.westvan60.com/Images/scan0014.jpg
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Best regards,
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+++  WV CHAMBER OF COMMERCE  +++ http://www.westvanchamber.com
        Christmas Dinner Dec 2, now preparing for State of the District Breakfast with the Mayor, January 20.
+  METRO THEATRE: THEFT by Eric Chappell, a British Comedy/Mystery, to Dec 5th
At the beginning of the play, John and Barbara have been out celebrating their wedding anniversary with their friends, Trevor and Jenny.  When they return, they discover that they have been burgled.  As it happens, the burglar is still there.  He proceeds to step out of a cupboard and convince the owners that he's a policeman.  From there he goes into an elaborate con to make them feel sorry for him, trying to manipulate them into opening the safe for him.  So it goes on with comedic dialogue and unexpected twists of plot.
Also: the December 2009 Metro Theatre Community eNewsletter is now ready for downloading.
Website http://metrotheatre.org and newsletters http://metrotheatre.org/index.php/library?func=select&id=6
+  PRESENTATION HOUSE -- Panto Wars, May the Farce be With You to Dec 20, tix 990 3474
+   HENDRY HALL -- Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs on weekends to Dec 20; tix 983 2633
+  THE ARTS CLUB -- Irving Berlin's White Christmas  at the Stanley until Dec 27
+  VANCOUVER PLAYHOUSE -- Dirty Rotten Scoundrels until Dec 27; tix 873 3311
+  JERICHO ARTS CTR -- The Vertical Hour by David Hare ends Dec 6th (224 8007)
+  VSO -- See www.vancouversymphony.ca
Tickets for The Tallis Scholars' Christmas Concert are selling fast, but good seats are still available!
Tickets can be purchased in person at the Chan Centre Ticket Office, or through Ticketmaster (more details below).  Series Subscriptions for our two-concert Chan Series (including The Tallis Scholars, and Festive Bach Cantatas for Christmas) can only be ordered through Early Music Vancouver: on-line at www.earlymusic.bc.ca or by phone at 604-732-1610. Series Subscription sales end at 4pm on Thursday, December 3rd.
For an overview of the two concerts in this Chan Series:  www.earlymusic.bc.ca/CC0-Overview.html
The Tallis Scholars' Christmas Concert
Tuesday evening, December 8, 2009 at 8:00pm (no pre-concert introduction)
Chan Centre for the Performing Arts at UBC, 6265 Crescent Road
The Tallis Scholars, Peter Phillips, director
For more details on this concert:  www.earlymusic.bc.ca/CC1-TallisScholars.html
Richard Bonynge back -- his first time in Vancouver 1963 with Dame Joan Sutherland as Norma (ends Dec 5)
===  CCL NOTES Nov 16th  ===
===  (Reconvened) PUBLIC HEARING NOTES Nov 16th  ===
1.  CALL TO ORDER [7:12pm]  --  Mayor: sorry, a bit late
Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4617, 2009 and Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4616, 2009 for Secondary Suites (File:  1610-20-4616/4617)
The Director of Planning, Lands and Permits will describe the subject application.
Applicant: District of West Vancouver
Affected Lands: The proposed regulations regarding Secondary Suite uses apply to [Single-Family] and [Two-Family] Dwellings in most residential, comprehensive development and community use zones throughout the municipality.
Purpose: The proposed Zoning Bylaw amendment introduces Secondary Suite uses as a Permitted Use in West Vancouver. Details are provided below.
Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment: A term and definition of a Secondary Suite is added to the Zoning Bylaw as a permitted use in a [Single-Family[ or [Two-Family] Dwelling.
Terms and definitions within the Zoning Bylaw are added or amended. [Single-Family] Dwelling and [Two-Family] Dwelling or Duplex are amended to permit a Secondary Suite and terms and definitions of Cooking Facilities and Kitchen are also added to the Zoning Bylaw.
The Terms and Definitions of In-Law Suite and Family are deleted from the Zoning Bylaw which will no longer permit an In-Law Suite within a dwelling unit.
For residential areas, the proposed bylaw introduces Secondary Suites as a Permitted Use within a [Single-Family] or [Two-Family] Dwelling. The following requirements are also added to permit a Secondary Suite on a lot:
1. A maximum of one Secondary Suite is permitted per lot;
2. A Secondary Suite cannot be detached from the principal building (i.e. 'coach house');
3. A Secondary Suite must have a minimum floor area of 20m2 (215 sq. ft.) and a maximum floor area of either 90 m2 (968 sq. ft.) or 40% of the total floor area of the building, excluding garage space, whichever is less;
4. The registered owner of the property must occupy, as his/her principal place of residence, either the principal residential use or the Secondary Suite;
5. Lodgers, a personal care facility, Child Care Use, or a Bed and Breakfast is not permitted in a building containing a Secondary Suite;
6. The principal entrance to a Secondary Suite must be a separate exterior entrance from that of the Principal Dwelling Unit and must not face the same street as the principal exterior entrance to the Principal Dwelling Unit;
7. One off-street vehicle parking space must be provided for the exclusive use of the Secondary Suite and at least two off-street vehicle parking spaces for the Principal Dwelling Unit if the walking distance from the lot to a bus stop is greater than 200 feet;
8. A Secondary Suite must not be subdivided from the Principal Dwelling Unit under the Land Title Act or the Strata Property Act; and
9. Water service and electrical service for the Secondary Suite and the Principal Dwelling Unit must not be metered separately.
Sokol gave a verbal background: not allowed in Eagle Island or places with contract zoning (can't change contract) for example, otherwise generally allowed.
600 to 3000 units; opportunities to make them legal, allow one-year timeframe
then inspection for life/safety standards
revenue: value wd be increased $40 to 60K of assessment so about $100 or more
water, sewage, and garbage metered or limited
Annual registration fee of $150 per year; if 3000 significant revenue
impact in costs to M; within response times for Fire and Police so wd not trigger need for new Fire or Police Dept b/c within response time.
call-out for fire probably less than now; allowing with inspections
not need for new Police services, maybe add'l calls but a marginal cost to the M
Sec Stes within devpd area so no need for new roads
Parks and Rec: ppl in them now using and not paying taxes so the reg fee and add'l tax revenue go toward extra costs
may result in increased revenue using pool, etc
if new facilities needed, wd change; wdn't require construction of a new library
existing stes, some rev to District not receiving now
new suites, how many new per year?
looking over back few years about 120 units per year; wd take a while
staff will be recommending that Ccl direct us to report back to Ccl annually re legalized, news, impact, need to modify, in general how process working
so head off at the pass any situations that shd arise.
Sop: has not been a cost analysis on the general services as to cost to taxpayer or coming back to M
How do you know if you haven't done an analysis on general services?
Mayor: not the topic of the Public Hearing
Sop: how is it outside the scope?
Mayor: the PH
Sop: how
Sokol: we have not done a detailed analysis; some have a fee on order of $100, $50
having lower cost not saying affordable
gives us ability, basic life safety standards
Sop: wd a sec ste be permitted an HBBiz? two cars, where do they park? allow within 200 ft?
where will cars park and what will happen to character of the nbrhd?
Sokol: requiring off-street parking
ML: pleased my compatriot questioning about financial; gather tonight for public input
wd you pls indicate when appropriate financial
Mayor: public input, can close or adjourn for a spirited debate at second reading
Sokol: shd Ccl close the PH, the next mtg wd be both the zoning bylaw amendment for sec stes and the fees and charges; all second and third reading at the same time/mtg
Mayor: to adjust the fees or explore right level
MClk: when the bylaws come forward for second reading that's the time for debate on both the amendments
Mayor: go through the letters, etc
{MClk enumerated them.}
4. PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURE {will be described}
1) Reports received up to November 12, 2009:
    o  Secondary Suite Program and Discussion Paper (including appendices A and B) ;
    o  Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4617, 2009 and Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4616, 2009 for Secondary Suites (including appendices A to D)
    o  Revised Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4617 ;
2) Correspondence received up to November 12, 2009:  D. and S. Simunic; C. Thompson
On November 2, 2009, Council set the date for the Public Hearing. The statutory notice of Public Hearing was published in the North Shore News on November 8 and November 11, 2009. The Municipal Clerk will note written submissions received for the November 16, 2009 Public Hearing.
> O. Zappa: no written, a few notes; too busy writing a book
My name is Waldo Zappa, ppl call Waldo
Live on Mathers, bought house in 1975, house built early '50s, '60s, with an in-law suite, built to specification at the time b/c sep furnace.  Ste was never used, until my daughter going through a divorce five or six years ago lived there, eventually she moved out, and when she left have rented it from time to time to ppl needed who needed a place quickly or didn't have a home
Mr Sokol hit the nail right on the head; spoke of social issues.
Have questions re Hydro, garbage colln, many answered; higher assessment means higher taxes
police infrastructure, etc already using these
to Mr Sop wanting to increase fees, I'll remember not to vote for him next time
{it may have been tongue-in-cheek but personally was not impressed by such a comment :-(}
Mayor: it's all name recognition.
WZ: Many illegal stes already in operation
NSN reports hiring a full time clerk in Dept; if legalized we don't need another highly paid clerk at $62K a year -- this is what has been reported
On top of that you have a full time enforcement ofcr at $86K
I retired from mgmt props six or seven years ago, my end salary was $43K and I have to live on that, half a per cent of what my pension is
{that's what he said listening to the tape but I don't quite understand}
where are we going? $100K for an inspector, is this a money grab?
also, you have other issues, questions about homestay, monster houses, rooming houses, how are you going to apply the costs to those?
> Keith Pople: Keith Rd; a bylaw is certainly required for WV, to legalize sec stes and more important, it shd be used to regulate stes and make sure they adhere, and the numbers, once tabulated, know how many and how many more we want.
[Text supplied:
Council Presentation November 16, 2009 - Secondary Suite Bylaw Proposal
I am supportive of the current 9 Requirements cited in the proposed bylaw legislation. But I do have a concern and a suggestion regarding this draft bylaw.
In the Ambleside area where I live we have many secondary suites and the number of automobiles parked on our narrow roads, particularly at night, is an impediment to driving and pedestrian safety. I am hopeful that the requirement to provide onsite parking for secondary suite occupants will alleviate this problem.
My concern with the current bylaw is that the proposed $150 annual levy is inadequate. When I look at my tax invoice I see charges of more than $1000 for school taxes and $2500 for municipal services I find it unacceptable that secondary suite occupants should have access to the same services for $150 per year. 
I suggest that the annual levy for residents of secondary suites should be comparable to the tax contributions of occupants of comparable sized suites in rental apartments..
The proposed annual levy charged for secondary suites is too low. Single family property owners should not be expected to subsidize the occupants and owners of secondary suites.
My suggestion is that W.V. incorporate the same provision that  NVD included in their Secondary Suite Bylaw, namely that a  home-based business and secondary suite should not be allowed in the structure. NVD considered this was necessary because it would exacerbate traffic and parking in the immediate area.]
Sgl-fam owners shd not be expected to subsidize sec ste owners and that's what's happening now.
> Garret Polman: Westhill Way; Mbr of ITAC.  ITAC is fully supportive of sec stes but do however have some concerns about financial arrangements
apparently the fee structure will only cover a portion of expenses; quarter of a million but if only as few 650 stes perhaps only half counts so dble the expense
the taxpayer will be on the hook for the difference, but this is a biz opportunity
it's a biz, ITAC feels not approp for the cmnty at large to subsizdize those who take advantage of this biz opportunity.
We believe any costs shd be fully recovered by a combination fees and other charges
perhaps a special levy on prop taxes of the owners of sec stes, there's precedent for that; we go that route for certain local improvement measures that benefit ppl in specific areas
secondly the admin req of three add'l staff as reported in NSN at a cost of a quarter of a million dollars is unwarranted
as BC govt figures show, proportionate to our popn, we in WV have far more staff than any other M in MetroV
during election a year ago, candidates were eloquent about the need for prudence and austerity
This bylaw provides an opp to put this into practice
we don't need more ppl but greater efficiency
We suggest Ccl direct staff to absorb the resources for the new policy and use this as an opp to find efficiencies
just this weekend VSun reported Vancouver City Ccl is considering staff reductions to hold tax increases to 2%
Mayor rightly pointed out just b/c WV properties have higher assessments does not necessarily equate to the ability to pay nor to the services we receive
same shd apply internally
Stats Canada reported last year that the median income in our M decreased sharply between 2000 and 2005, down 15% over all and 31% for seniors and we know it has only gotten worse since
like the City of Vancouver, we too need to hold the line
Thirdly, we think a 12-month period for registration will simply encourage ppl to delay their applications -- human behaviour suggest ppl will hold off and save themselves the fees for the year until the end and staff will not be fully occupied
We suggest a suitable announcement and advertising period followed by a three- to four-month registration period.
Thank you.
> Gordon Ward-Hall: shd be limited to a sgl person or a sgl-fam unit
less than a block from me there are at least three ppl staying there; I think you'll find a lot have that problem
Secondly, I think the revenue of $100 from taxes and $150 from fees is not sufficient; I think all units shd cover their fair share to cover the total M costs
know difficult; probably easiest to divide the cost between all the units
accept their fair share
> Nora Gambioli: Duchess; just to begin with I support this bylaw in general but the detail in the paper the other day clause 7 sent up a red flag -- one and two pkg spots
the reason a red flag, I walked
12th and Duchess I walked and 200ft is half a block -- how many ppl in this room live within half a block of a bus stop
bigger bone, I think this shows the systemic assumptions and I love all the things in Planning; all ppl have a car and your Climate Action Grp and Transp are going to come are going to propose that the car shd not be Number 1
need to think of the future; thinking 20 years from now
forcing ppl to carve out a parking space or three, that will cost thousands and thousands of dollars...
> V. Christison: representing Lionsview; reason I'm here is to speak in glowing terms on the report on Nbrhd Character and Housing
one item tonight we're speaking of is helping to fill housing gaps; keep your eye on the prize
second re the whole process of legitimization
came in touch with a senior, a WV renter, looking for accommodation, difficult b/c she told them "I was evicted b/c I was dirty"
investigation -- there was a mould problem and she had to replace the carpet; spent $900 and then she was looking for alternate accommodation; what burns me, she wasn't being respected; I'll bet was rented within days with that new $900 carpet ...
Rental: need to increase the supply; really none built for a long time
sec stes not going to add v much perhaps we've got the stock
hope it will add; hope you will support the bylaw
> Connie Sedgewick: Clyde.  In the newspaper article it talked about illegal suites -- what does that mean? just that stes not registered
I have a three-level home and I wd not want to rent b/c they wdn't keep it clean
since I cd, wd I be required to register?
Sokol: only if rented
CS: like Mr Pople, live near and you can barely get down the street
> Ken Mellquist: against the proposal though I can see the train coming
we guilt our home in 2002; spent fair amt of money
a devpr came along and built a home next to us, in-law house, sold to current owner, opened out a B&B in basement, to accommodate, she excavated along our prop line for parking
removed hedge, compromised our prop; walkway directly adjacent for her new ste in the back of her house
had to put in a retaining wall to protect prop and privacy hedge -- cost me $10K and I shdn't have to bear that cost
I'm opposed; direct financial impact, lost privacy
if we hadn't put up a hedge, wd see directly into that suite
comments: one of the arguments in favour that they will provide revenue re increased assessments  -- a lag, been no real costing,
naive to assume by allowing a sec ste in an area of sgl xxx
believe the value of our home has been severely impacted
house next door, an apt bldg
next door apt bldg and advertises around the world B&B
bylaw doesn't do: illegal stes have cost me $10K, can be damage; there is an impact if windows or doors or walkways directly adjacent
Nbrs shd get notice and input from nbrs
if asked if told excavate down -- I'd alert the M impact on my prop and privacy
recoup costs; parking shd not be visible; privacy shd be protected
> Keith Coules: think my question has been answered; have a legal inlaw suite
> CR: Good evening, Mayor and Council.  Carolanne Reynolds, Editor of West Van Matters.
I had three questions, but with other things coming up tonight I have a few comments.
First of all, I'm glad this has come up and the bylaw is being addressed bc of the safety concerns that have been pointed out by the Fire Dept.  Many streets in WV are single-lane; ppl have to pull over, so they're really one-way streets in parts of WV now.
Since a sec ste although not a biz or commercial necessarily, it's income for that owner, and they shd be paying some of the costs, since I don't think, as others have said, sgl-fam owners shd be subsidizing ppl who are having income from their property.
At the last mtg, there was a discussion on pervious surfaces.  Pls keep this requirement in -- in fact it wd be great to expand it!  We live on a rainy hillside as you all very well know and it's essential that our rain go into the earth, so the water can slowly find its way to feed our creeks rather than rush causing erosion, or result in increased costs wrt sewers and drainage.
It's my understanding in NV they do not allow HBBiz in a residence with a secondary suite so I wd like to know what restrictions if any there will be in WV.  For example I understand one suggestion is that a HBBiz that is for example has no clients, that wd be all right, no clients wd come, no deliveries that wd have to be done/made, but if they have ppl, that's different; b/c somebody can set up in their den -- they can have a biz and not require any visitors or deliveries.
At the town hall mtg one person said if she bought into a sgl-fam area she wd not be pleased if it turned into all with secondary suites -- it wd change the character, probably lower the value of her property, and change the quality of life, with more cars and traffic, for example.
This bylaw, I understand, applies across the whole municipality, although Mr Sokol mentioned a couple of exceptions tonight.
At the town hall mtg, it was said it wd be first come, first served, no limit.
Can it be limited to, for example, less than half the properties in a block?
Is there a possibility that a local nbrhd and cmnty assn, if not by bylaws, cd set cmnty (bylaw) guidelines, perhaps along the lines of the Lower Caulfeild Heritage Conservation [area] so that they wd have a say about their little local nbrhd, about how many sec stes they wd want to see.
-- um, however the person who who mentioned that we shd be preparing for no cars (in 20 years), and not prepare for parking, I suggest we look at that when the use of cars goes down; we can always amend the bylaw later.
As for this poor gentleman just recently who's had the trouble with the excavation that, I understand, that cd hv bn done with an in-law ste as well, so now if it's going to be for all stes, you will look up some sort of regulations about impact on nbrs.  I have had ppl complain to me that even in a sgl-fam house being built next to someone who had a sgl-fam house, that they excavated and did all of those things that caused problems for the nbr.  So this might be under the good-nbr bylaw, and that might protect ppl.  So whether it's a sgl-fam house, an in-law ste, a sec ste, ppl are protected.
Thank you very much
{Forgot to ask if there'd be fines for non-compliance or contraventions or whatever.
For those who asked if the fees wd cover costs, the answer is whatever the amount it wd go toward paying for services that other taxpayers pay for -- and some revenue is better than none!}
> P. Jackson: if for someone without charge
Sokol: act of renting
PJ: so if not renting exempt of what's proposed
Sokol: wd not apply
ML: clarify that -- I understand non-payment of rent
what about sec or in-law, what about safety, inspections, or bldg code
if in-law ste, same as a rental
Sokol: have to up to code but don't need to license unless being rented
> Bob Musters; love cost-benefit analysis
if 2000, up by $5 looking at $100M so that shd be
be interested in how many HBB
Sokol: don't know
Mayor: recollect WV has a high
Sokol: a few hundred
> BM: many don't have ppl coming in, delivering or coming
rental tax, are you going to expand to rental? coming forward?
continue with 2000 illegal stes
places like Keith, Clyde; understand if legal, req'd parking so that wd relieve
for this, a wise move; deal with xxx
%/$$$ up to standards, higher assessed values so helps on administration side
> Peter Backhouse: Nelson; wd like to ask, what is the record of bylaw officers in keeping bylaws
unless they're enforced, v little protection
Mayor: Mr Sokol or Mr McRadu
CAO: bylaw in place we'll enforce when we can
find out if violations then investigate
I have a nbr and this nbr has put in a complaint about the one between us, put in two stes and has complained on several occasions and staff ave asked him what can we do about it
lots of bylaws; xxx
Mayor: sorry to hear that
Sokol: will xxx
PB: wrote to Planner and XXXX and no reply
if bylaws not kept, any thought of controlling traffic on our streets will be lost
value of homes diminish
the revenue ste next to mine, he doesn't landscape, got bldg material strewn the prop, morning glory growing
my wife trying to grow roses through morning glory
we're fed up with it; if anyone on this Ccl lived next to a sec ste, they'd think twice about sec stes.
Mayor: excuse me; anyone who hasn't spoken yet?
> Eleanor Cordingley: live in one of the nicest nbrhds, Clovelly Lower Caulfeild
Frankly, I have given up on sec stes -- I used to live on 2600blk Ottawa another nice nbrhd changing so much
fought for a year to get a sec ste closed down, and the owner while I'm fighting City Hall and getting more irritated, he's putting up high rises in NV
Then he bought the house next door, the house in front of that, built a $2-3M house, put a wall up, cement wall in my back yard, so I'm out of there, life's too short.
sec stes, we've learned to accommodate them, don't think anybody likes them unless they're yours
my feeling now, any house going to be built, esp in my area I know cuz that's where I live, no devpr, no person coming in; not going to build a home without putting in a suite
looking at next thing, coach house will be next
lots out there, prime targets, houses like mine, lot value home, good homes, half the street, across from really good school, nice trails,
can see that nbrhd now; fought for two years on the Clovelly report, the upset was the big homes, trees, etc
this is a new ball game, this is going to clear the lots to make room for what you're proposing
given up on the stes, I'm a senior as you can see -- don't think many seniors that live in WV want to end up in someone's basement suite, kind of the last thing on my wish list
Know not everybody lucky enough to own a home and there are some seniors
To me, I think you shd get out of the housing market
3000 sec stes, why not close them all down, and ppl wd fill in with better housing
ppl want to live here, all these stes, who wants to touch it?
devpr has to pay to put in something
anyways, what do I know?
such a serious issue, think all the homeowners shd have a vote on this; that wd be my summary
> Tom Wardell: 13th St, do not have a sec ste
lived here for over 60 years, been illegal stes for over 60 years
spoken to sev mayors about illegal stes; they didn't want to know; they didn't bring up the question
if the costs as Mr Sop suggested increased, I don't think ppl wd register the stes
if past speaker had her way and they shut them all down -- right now you don't know where they are; some of them but not all of them
3000 is a light number, there's more than that -- basically this sec ste prog is just a matter of recognizing of what's already there
usability referred to -- ppl already using the parks, schools, police, fire
already there; all we're doing is recognizing what already exists.
> Barbara Shard: Clyde; pls clarify item 7, parking exempt if within 200ft of bus stop 200ft? 400ft more reasonable
Sokol: staff looked at this; along Marine Dr, difficult to go 400ft; no bus shelters, sidewalks, important to reduce
Mayor: can vary without reopening PH
BSh: 400ft reasonable, half a block; about not facing same street as principal but what if basement door facing same -- all of a sudden unfair to say now you can't
Sokol: applicant two avenues, adjust wch side door facing or a devt variance permit, a way for Ccl to approve
Mayor: or Ccl debate, Ccl can say not as important
Sokol: intent to keep sgl-fam home
BSh: some main entrances you can't see from street
> Anita Abton: Argyle; didn't come with intention to speak
in response to some comments
my nbrs have all commented on how wonderful my tenants are
on my street, Royal Ave, eight duplexes and five houses
y home is the nicest
no windows, doors, etc if facing, wd he say same if one fam
hear about subsidizing; I'm sgl, no chn
no chn so wonder if I'm subsidizing his chn going to school
> Karl Gustavson: I used to live on Duchess, 33ft lot, takes up a lot of space impact on nbrhd with parking spaces
little confused about stes legal but not rented.....
if I had a sec ste and for my chn, cd have a stove, etc
if not honest, rent and don't declare it; declare it as non-rental and I rent it; I'm in favour of the bylaw
dvprs will come forward build stes, how control?
ML: clarify; wee bit confused about parking
understand for sec ste, but hearing two more for owner,???? garage meets?
Sokol: yes; at present req in WV is for only one pkg space
ppl wd come and say two-car garage
don't need ... must have one plus two for you
> D Yousefi: Duchess.  I have a ste rented last year
if in power, number of stes will come down rather than up
last year $22K net was just $6K
one quarter rental, my cost to build and maintenance
by this regulation going to pay; no need to rent
> Joanne Mellquist: Renton Place
I take issue of the policing of the rental stes; has gone on with illegal; she also has a biz
we have met with Hall; advised wd hv to take photos b/c City not in position to
[From gallery: invasion of privacy]
Mayor: xxx
Sokol: meet after
Someone asks?: prepared hiring more staff
Sokol: three; two temp during tie ppl applying
ppl commenting high, seem high b/c includes benefits and holidays
Lady?: in favour of requiring parking spaces
Mayor: called three times
ME: having listened; move closed
Sop: Clarification at second reading
Sokol: as long as to clarify can happen at second reading
Mayor: expect back at Dec 7
If there is no further public input and Council does not request to have a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED:  THAT all written and verbal submissions be received and that the Public Hearing be closed.
Members of Council are not permitted to receive further submissions once the Public Hearing is closed.

===  CCL MTG NOTES Nov 16th  ===
        add re Hburn Ridge and 16.1 re railroad issues
2.  ADOPTION OF MINUTES: November 2: Reconvened Public Hearing and Regular Council Meeting.
3. Notice of Award: Canadian Consulting Engineer Award of Excellence for Eagle Lake Membrane Filtration Facility (File:  0520-20-05-002)  Information to be provided.
second award
See DWV website: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=23080
Eagle Lake Membrane Filtration Facility Wins Another Award
Thursday, November 26, 2009
West Vancouver, BC:    The District of West Vancouver is pleased to announce that the Eagle Lake Membrane Filtration Facility has received the 2009 Canadian Consulting Engineering Award of Excellence in the Water Resources category, through Dayton & Knight Ltd. who acted as the Design Engineer....
Dayton & Knight's association with the District's and Eagle Lake project commenced with a detailed business case which proved out the benefits of developing the municipal Eagle Lake source to offset the purchase of drinking water from Metro Vancouver. This award was accepted by Sean Brophy, President & CEO, Dayton & Knight Ltd. on behalf of the project team in Toronto on November 2, 2009 at the Canadian Consulting Engineering Awards Gala.
4. West Vancouver Community Centres Services Society, Strategic Plan 2009 - 2010 "You Belong Here" (File:  0055-20-WVCCS)
        Presentation to be provided.  To be received for information.
Mayor: Barbara Brink
MS: haven't been introduced
BB: years ago ...  new ...  journey to the unknown
a man from India said you cannot cross the sea by looking at the water
cmnty investment; health of a cmnty; cmnty ctr the heart of the cmnty; forums on diff issues
tag line: You belong here
is health and breadth of the cmnty
young going to have ... equally happy
delivery of progs; experts staff, cmnty felt third person and now changed and it's cmnty participation first
what happens at the ctr is a result of what cmnty wants
Vision: Ctr of excellence; will be a place of pride
Mission: working together
Values: Cmnty; Innovation tried and encouraged; Learning; Partnership, inclusiveness; Responsibility and Trust; Integration; Care and Respect
These values drove what we were doing
Goals: Leadership; prog devt; partnership; resource Devt; Communication, financial Mgmt; Volunteers and Human Resources
Success & Milestones
Prog Cmte...... coming next ...  responsiveness is the key issue
make sure another mtg; pilot projects; with Sch Dist, unable then took them into our Ctr
v strong prog cmte
coming next Youth Arts, Health and Wellness, child and family
2010 coming
partner lecture series: cmnty mental health and complement health
if come last few days, come to atrium H1N1; talked to my daughter in Toronto pregnant and took six (?) and a half hours
resource Devt power of music campaign
Cdn heritage funding applications building cmnties thru arts and heritage
fund directed evening
Communications Cmte, jt marketing commitment; devped benefits of membership, 150 mbrs
v action re 2010
Governance Cmte
registered society charitable status, strat plan, AGM unrolled plan; next AGM in May
strong staff team
challenging ourselves we
Human res and Volunteer cmte; Finance Cmte
984 hours, at $250hr so significant

{That's what I heard and though many may charge more than that, IMVHO, it's doubtful the average volunteer's charge-out is $250/hr.
Besides, after being told the bd mtgs are open, they are not posted, at least to date, on the DWV Calendar, nor are they on their webpage so where's the transparency and cmnty engagement???}}

transparency, accountability, and cmnty engagment
struggling with budget
has there been accountability and efficiency
interesting process and a lot learned on both sides
Partnerships: 2010, Van Coastal Health H1N1; Mobile Mammograph Clinic
Family Place; WV Youth Band; Bean Around the World
Cathy Matheson and Sue Ketler [staff]; cmnty support absolutely extraordinary
Mayor: a dream starting to come true -- Cclr Smith, lead off
MS: by moving, by questions, by remarks?
than the board really a great service to the cmnty
Mayor: move, seconder, then rest of Ccl
MS: move received for information
SW: one pet peeve, question I'm asked once a week, are we going to extend it longer than 24 hours
BB: Dec 2 compelling reasons for and for not
SW: take the opinion of all the ladies on the playground
Sop: I do remember the early days trying to get our head around to have a society run things
an incredible journey to date
outstanding work over past two or three years; look fwd to wonderful things; seeing it start from nothing
ML: maybe you cd talk about the mbrship -- 145?
BB: we are a society so we have to have mbrs
        {how pesky -- wonder if they'll ask or expect to attend any mtgs???}
slow process, think whole cmnty has to decide
craft fair we sold ten more that day
big benefits is the cmtes, must be a mbr; unroll into task forces, can be part of decisions
TP: power of music
BB: Mayor has a brochure
Mayor: only one?
BB: decisions to be made, not having breezeway, the music hall, recording xxx
$150K for the power of music campaign
ME: Are you able to integrate your progs with Gleneagles
BB: want to be fair; staff cd say that better out at Gleneagles; Sue Ketler good
our board doesn't look at Gleneagles and its progs, just a general
Mayor: congratulate you, particularly the Power of Music
you've taken on the needs of the xxx to rehearse, specialized, progs, families can't afford; off our budgets
probably do a better job; heartening that you've made music a priority
you have our full support, thanks, and congratulations
5. Integrated Resource Recovery on the North Shore (File:  0185-08)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report dated October 30, 2009 from the Director, Engineering & Transportation entitled, "Integrated Resource Recovery on the North Shore" be received for information.
RF: turn it over to
Fred Nenninger: IRR at MetroV  [SLIDES]
aligned with prov goals: reduce carbon footprint, increase biofuel use, reduce water use  ...
Energy in Wastewater Systems
Water System Savings Opportunity
May to Sept increases significantly this is 2008 we had a day in 2009 above 2B
all sized for peak; trying to decrease outside watering demands
Utility Plans; North Shore IRR Study; conceptual study; business cases; policy and planning
Mayor: thank you for your presentation, indicative of cooperation on NSh
believe first MetroV is going
Mr Fung, anything to add?
RF: please to participate and have agreement of three
so well integrated feel a lot of synergies; look fwd to working tog with MetroV
ML: duration of the study and results?
FN: look to end April
TP: reminded of my fall Swedish trip, Waste not Want not; scale
FN: interested in any opp regardless of scale, biz opportunities
TP: will be included in report?
FN: yes
ME: findings will come back to NSh? will there be a direct benefit to NSh?
time and effort we put in, able to achieve any shrt term benefits
RF: timing and upgrading of LG wastewater plant
what sort of scale, technology maintaining a centralized &&&
lion's share by three NSh Ms
where's cut off, how small?
if change way we're doing things, change type of facility being built
solid waste mgmt, liquid waste mgmt; wd roll back to M if not directly then indirectly
Sop: study roughly, $100K, future endeavours?
FN: this is an initial conceptual study; have identified ~$4M for this work over next sev years, related to signif savings to treatment plants over years
$4M for resource and ?  &&
Sop: benefit from sustainable future? big plan
FN: the purpose of undertaking study, where are the biz cases, what we're trying to determine
Sop: there was a considerable amt of money wrt solid waste and the like, in the millions, a good portion to the NSh; wonder? in desire, where's money going to come from?
Mayor: determine wch to build
biofuels into vehicles, Integrated Resource Recovery wch is what IRR stands for
Sop: understand that but how much confidence for govt to take are of it
in the millions of dollars, going to be covered by assessments? how can we be expected to cover those costs?
FN: Canada West, standards, plan; clear all three levels of govt have to cooperate but didn't offer cheques
Mayor: but Minister Day came to Board XXX; what wd be his recommendation
as a result of Build Canada Reg Fund, needs to xxx
capital investment
6. Hollyburn Ridge Cabins - Long Term Strategy, Permit to Occupy Extension and Fee Increase (File:  1145-04)
RECOMMENDED:  THAT the report dated November 12, 2009 from the Director, Parks and Community Services be received for information.
Anne Mooi, Dir/Parks: report is before you
permits expire Dec 31st after five years
we are extending the permits for one year and undertaking a study
new $1720, $143 mo, based on 5% of assessed value, reasonable for recreational land use
ensure the fees reflect market rates and at the least cost recovery
work with HB XXX
public consultation beginning tonight
public property, pursuing what is in the public's interest
welcome the participation of the HRA
open houses, surveys and mtgs with the public
look fwd to ....
Stuart (?) Ramsay: permit, cabin 249, mbr of bd of directors; wd like to talk about two reports, the report of 2007 and the one you have before you tonight
one says making money 2007 and this say losing
2007 said valuable consultation and recommended continue
2009 was to inform us, no consultation in more than two years, wondering what had happened
as to fees 5% keeping bldg intact but we have to fix roofs so xxx
another challenge is how fast
many of our mbrs retired on fixed incomes, forced to give up they've worked years on
xxx and Olympics will .... no use ... XXXX
2007 report 1) received 2) analysis 3) report to public didn't? happen 4 xxx that didn't happen; Ccl's instructions didn't happen
considering 2007 not followed, skeptical 2009 will be
[REQUESTS slide]
item added?
Mayor: piece of correspondence
in case I ran over she was going to speak
> Jackie/Jacquie Swanson: VP live in NV
consider devastating situation, two of the terms without discussion with the stakeholders
Permit Renewal now to be called Extension
amt of the permit for 2010 extraordinary increase without discussion
many will not be able to afford esp after years of spending money on [upgrading?]
some seniors, only a few times a year and will have to sell
if our mbrs, self-finance museum area
who will they be able to sell to
with five-year, ..... then there are those ppl who will risk their investment and time however with a one-year permit, with Olympics,  xxx rumours surrounding future
even if purchaser, such a transfer wd not occur until end of 2010
five times than what they've been paying
is this what Ccl intended?
study of Upper Lands
ev we've done, hundreds of thousand of dollars; esp long-standing relationship
pls reconsider; aresonike (?) road
higher coming in increments
selling to families, a reasonable time
not sure why the length of time intrinsically linked to long-term use of Upper Lands
> Janet Mierau: in the most beautiful area of WV, Horseshoe Bay
hear your byword is what's best for WV and for all
we live in HBay, take good care of our home and yard, have most beautiful cabin in 1939 take care of it and outhouse, in summer and winter, to have absolute peace and quiet
for 30 years, take/thank? you all for your consideration
> David Johnstone: Sentinel Hill; honoured to receive from WV Ccl WV Heritage Award, restoration
and as well great efforts of our cabin users to bring cabins up to standards
bring greetings from cabin 214, Cat's Whiskers, had it for eight years, three families, 13 individs, eight live in WV and five expats who live in NV
cabin is a labour of love: we love it but a lot of labour
not retreats, a lot of XXXXX; hope time to come; for XXXXX and XXXX
> Stephen Given: Mathers; group commissioner of Hollyburn Scouts
built as a cmnty use cabin; priority is given to WV scouts groups then scouts elsewhere then XXX
any consideration for cmnty-use cabins?  there are two others owned by Scouts and one Girl Guides
xxx  ... 25% ...  [fees] set this year
lack of access during Olympics
since much reason for increase xxx cmnty use, non-comm basis; shd contain provisions for cmnty-use
Mayor: receive report if no further
Sop: may I make an amendment?
Mayor: ?
Sop: and the fee structure be based on a carryover of a three-year period
Mayor: seconder?  No seconder.
Sop: why?
Mayor: another?
MS: I move [motion rec'd for info]
Sop: talking to a lady in WV whose son has just finished, lots of compliments; thousands of dollars, logs flown in by helicopter, encouraged by staff
XXXX spent; now looking at xxx a bit of a loss; thought creating a little cmnty of heritage
all things being equal and HRA doing......
good work, but shd be phased in esp not using during Olympics
value, the thousands of dollars these folks have spent; thought we cd phase it, help them out a bit
MS: think the staff report is a good doc
now going to devp .... for the future
the last 20 years nobody dealt with this issue; now, when you postpone things, more pain
the reality, facts are facts, great space and cabins are wonderful; ev values those cabins
but ppl have been paying almost nothing for years, about $300
proposing 5% return -- it's less than $150 a month
the thrust of the staff report is that we go forward with the powers everyone can understand  XXXX., long overdue, staff put on front burner, long overdue and support staff
SW: if something overlooked for years have to be dealt with
can't subsidize 90
work with assn and how to go forward with XXX
concern no appreciation for the heritage value in the cabins but at some point there has to be cost recovery on the cabins and all the effort/work on the mountain and in budget discussions, WV taxpayers are going to say why are we subsidizing those cabins
first premise is cost recovery, second is a long-term plan wch has to happen
Sop: I don't know if you were listening, Madam Mayor--
{SW astonished}
Mayor: --excuse me, Cclr Sop, I didn't see your hand up
Sop: I did, I put it up
Mayor: I didn't see it
Sop outburst: Nobody is listening to what I'm saying; they're going off, not listening; I am not against the increase in fees, and I have not seen anything substantial in the last five to six years that has said we are going in the wrong direction with cabins up in that area.  The HRA has supported the initiative to move forward to add value to those cabins over a long period of time.  It's a nice little cmnty, and suddenly we're not doing the right job?  Give me a break. 
Mayor: Speaking from the report that we're receiving, we do need to deal with some insurance and long-term issues and thinking for absolutely everybody
the fee itself is extraordinary, facing this increase
look over decades, we got behind; see what next six months hold
cmnty; know ev believes a lot in what they have up there
TP: we have to be resp to the whole cmnty
maybe hasn't been doing in the past; think Cclr Sm said it v well
positive; challenging, complicated issue
looking forward to cultural Heritage and liability; part of the public consultation in front of us
difficult one to swallow
we have to be responsible to whole cmnty
ME: two comments: a pity in some respects why we look at this as being a high percentage, it's high on a v low value, the rent has increased $80 over 12 years, that puts the issue in front of us in perspective
maybe a friendly amendment, I am sympathetic to cmnty use, a group I was unaware of
Ccl sympathetic to some relief?
Mayor: process?   xxx
CAO: they pay now, if desire to subsidize or
grant in aid; suggest it be considered then
Mayor: hold that thought; question on receipt of report?
Wd you require a motion?
CAO: I wd prefer that so we know that all Ccl supportive
Mayor: motion wd say Ccl consider, yes Cclr Sm?
MS: logically, can't see how vote without applic in front of us
Scouts, girl guides, whoever, on cmnty grp basis; shd apply for grants in aid, application dealt with in the normal process
Mayor: expect a request from the cmnty groups?
MS: if want assistance, shd make an application
Mayor: we'll work with you to that end.
all right with you Cclr Evison?
Fine -- move to Item 7
Cclr Panz excused herself saying a family mbr lives on Eagle Island
7. Eagle Island Resident-Only Parking (File:  1785-27)
1. Council direct staff to establish a Resident Parking Zone at the foot of Eagle Harbour Road for Eagle Island residents with an annual permit fee of $10;
2. An annual Occupancy Fee of $100 be established should Eagle Island residents desire a dedicated parking stall; and
3. Costs of $150 per stall for manufacture and installation of personalized name signage be borne by Eagle Island residents.
RF: given the time forego staff presentation
Mayor: sep or all three?
RF: if sep, then two and three
> Jim Ochs: live on Eagle Island and here to ask you to approve the three
was my understanding 1 was also going to be there
there has been de facto parking zone with resid only parking signs for 30 years
the key was having assigned spots; 23 not with parking and to have 23 stalls; in other zones doesn't work for us
assigned, had owner's name on it; takes a lot of nerve if name on it instead of area with resident
thank Bent Dozzi, and staff
thank nbrs on Rd signing petition saying wd support this (7, one non-committal, one non-responsive)
report prepared by staff is great, at the end some ppl object to car parts being stored, has been wheelbarrows and toys so not in ppl's front yards
> Jim Gerbrandt: EHbr Rd, about one third of the parking is in front of our park, I'm one of the three EI residents don't get support
the parking that's been there for 30 years illegal
the wheelbarrow and toys left there also illegal
not that I object to parking; time for compromise
ev left on my prop and on road, if you have designated signed parking encourages those to consider those not just a parking stall, then wheelbarrows, etc everything you don't want to take back and forth to the island
I'm sympathetic and even the dedicated
view :-(
last year I paid $17K, got a lot of benefits, I love living in WV
but we also got wheelbarrows, etc, some even on our prop
look at pictures, p 100 or so, things left on the side of the road we, our nbrs, and our guests have to drive by
see the stick, not on M prop
if you park a large car and put a wheelbarrow in front on both sides not much XXX
what was proposed at some point build a facility for the garbage disposal bins, can put wheelbarrows there
then ev can xxx
Mayor: motion to extend mtg till end of biz
[grunt heard]
then, review this at 10:30?
[ML made motion]
MS: any comments about way of dealing with the wheelbarrows and such in front of his prop
RF: Brent Dozzi has been working on this
BD: earlier on, we did have a proposal to incorporate a garb disp near foreshore; seemed reasonable and duplicated at WV Yacht Club, they have a wheelbarrow.
the challenge for EI residents, at night and parts of the day, to go to a centralized
Mayor: what about garbage enclosure, status?
BD: trying to engage WVYC lease prop on corner of their prop; occur later this month
MS: realize EI an unusual sit
no issue with a parking space but as soon as you allow things it becomes an outside storage area and if in front of my house I'd have an issue with that
not a place on way down to the docks?
BD: intent was to remove moving items being stored and garbage bins away from foreshore
intent to  xxxx or near parking area
other than req for a permit to store with XXX address the wheelbarrow; can continue to work with XXX
MS: can we include a fourth; staff work with EI and nbrs instead of converting these parking spaces into outside storage areas
ME: $150 stall manufacturing costs but feel this shd be a uniform design designed by the M so we don't have 20 diff shapes and colours
shd beef up the reqmts wrt wheelbarrows
and if can't neg, perhaps it does have to go back to the foreshore
the photos, are quite embarrassing
pity one or two residents have left down the rest
sign an undertaking to keep space clear at all times so no doubt their responsibility
BD: at our cmnty mtg, some discussion, E Islanders keep at developing some good nbr pledge with nbrs
Mayor: to work together not prescriptive but work with cmnty
entrance to EI looking good
ME: re signs being uniform
BD: project on the screen something to what I proposed, [slide]
Sop: v supportive of EI residents to have formal parking
this renewal great benefit to residents; great incentive as to how they use their wheelbarrows, no reason why resident/nbrs have to put up with these wheelbarrows
holder; unit that wd hold in own parking pace
surely to benefit ev and hasn't been the case
Mayor: all four
SW: can you read the fourth one
MS: staff work with residents to effect a soln for this storage prob
Mayor: storage and clutter
SW: those wheelbarrows are functional, kids and groceries, then get down to the barge
part of their day-to-day lifestyle; maybe some sort of hanger;
SW: amenable
Mayor: wording
MClk: staff work with .... to effect an option to ... storage items
Mayor: exploratory and expect it to come back to Ccl
8. Interim Report on Housing Pilot Program (File:  2515-02-01)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the interim report dated November 6, 2009 from the Senior Community Planner be received for information.
Mayor: is the Chair here?
ME: Ccl endorsed WG/Pilot projects;
Jacquie Gijssen Chair and Barb Pettit, here to provide an interim report, joined by staff, Stephen Mikicich
JG: hope to keep interesting, you have lots to deal with
result of many years, diff issues of addressing nbrhd character and housing
move forward in a responsible way, selection and testing of housing types
interim report; will be coming back in Dec with some recommendations
provide context; goal to seek opps for desire housing choice and affordability
opps for enabling the preservation of nbrhd character and ... sustainable land use
three to four projects, can test out .... ideas
use the experience to devp future policies
introduce mbrs of group -- wave if you're here
{Named them}
What we heard from WV residents -- genesis back to 2004 OCP, housing review
2007 and 8 confirmed cmnty support for sustainable cmnty
testing new housing types
for stronger measures to protect the character of nbrhd; residents told us houses being built too big
want to see more varied
hundreds participated, workshops, surveys, on-line dialogue
two striking things for me, the passion ppl had for their nbrhds, we're a v v diverse cmnty but passionate about our nbrhd
to maintain WV we love we have to change
realize our dreams and aspirations, not to be controlled by what happened to us in a reactive position
what we heard from residents and survey by Synovate was demand for smaller housing units
62% greatest gap in the 1000 to 1500sf size
strong support for legalizing sec stes 74%;
introducing new housing types, more duplexes, and infill housing, ie coach houses
81% supported pilot projects as a means of demonstrating how new housing forms cd be integrated into
reconvened earlier this summer; goal of delivering toward end of the year
project's response to findings; overall fit
capability of proponent team to carry out
widest range possible
call for expressions of interest EOI Sept 2009; where thinking was
ready to go, those in conceptual stage
17 proposals received, five didn't have a site, from 12, seven ...... invitation more detailed proposal
...sustainability statement
proposal will be more robust; deadline is Thursday Nov 19
will further review
now like to ask Barb Pettit for brief overview, then Stephen
BP: you're looking at the 17 submissions; as you see spread throughout the District
used traffic lights
red dots mean stop, two floating but no site
yellow met criteria, pretty good but not as good as green
green dots do mean go on to next phase
particularly pleased, short list go across the M
seven stars go to next phase
SLIDE: small sgl-fam houses 1100 sq ft
lane houses usu on top of a garage, less than 1000 to 1200
one triplex but it looks like a sgl-fam dwelling
strata, interesting shows units on a jointly owned site
tiny house [laughter -- SLIDE --] 100sf, not sure WV ready for this, actual house in US, didn't go forward, 89sf! history long and honourable houses, Thoreau lived in one, President
        {for pix and plans of tiny houses, see www.tumbleweedhouses.com}
Mayor: lots on our agenda
SM: draw Ccl's attention to MoU following what we have learned
following selection, staff will meet with proponents to sign will clearly articulate the intent
cmnty learning process
streamlining process; refine devt concept
confirm mutual objectives; risk or uncertainty; each will require a PH and Ccl approval
opps for cmnty engagement
reqmts for evaluation on completion -- in the end, what have we learned from this process?
JG: you unleashed the opp for cmnty to explore, learn, debate
outcome was marvellous; defining their future
not agreement in all corners but a committed interest in moving forward and looking at opps
today opp to test some of these ideas
public engagement/cmnty involvement
.....both at the nbrhd level once you approve and at the cmnty level
in Dec WG will be further recommending engagement strategies; concurrent
WV will grow in comfort with housing diversity and thereby fulfil the cmnty's direction on the housing future
ML: not being cynical but these are pilot projects, what if at end we don't like it?
JG: there is an eval process, assess, did it meet the goals, do we like it?
we believe we selected for positive outcomes
Stephen can speak to the regulatory aspect
pilot is that, it's a one-off project
SM: these do have a devt applic attached to them for review and for public input along the way
if we don't like it, probably only one you will see; b/c to create prototypes on wch to base policy
through learning process, may be desire to see variations
will only happen on one site, so worst case scenario sgl project you're not fully happy with, it won't necessarily be replicated b/c the intent only to create these pilots.
Mayor: and if we like them?
SM: wd go back and work on potential policy, regulatory changes to permit housing types under certain conditions
ML: I wdn't be overjoyed if I were the nbr and not wild about it
JG: in each case of the EOI, nbrhd engagement is an important evaluation criteria; don't expect a veto but do expect proponent has talked with nbrs and an unfolding of an engagement process with the nbrhd
shdn't be antagonistic, that's our hope and plan
Mayor: and of course it comes to Ccl, PH, etc; quite a bit of checks and balances
to see if nbrhd itself willing to support for the most part.
Mayor: it's 10:30 can move quickly; in respect to some ppl waiting here tonight, think we can deal with Spirit Trail
some ppl been waiting here
[Cclr Sop left for conflict of interest]
9. Road Closure and Removal of Highway Dedication Bylaw No. 4551, 2009 - Evelyn Drive Development Area (File:  1050-02-09-004/1610-20-4551)
This bylaw received first, second and third readings at the September 14, 2009 meeting and received approval from the Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure on September 25, 2009.
10. Evelyn Drive Area - request to name streets "Arthur Erickson Place", "Evelyn Drive" and "Vista Mews" (File:  0115-20-SNC01/1050-20-09-005)
 THAT the streets within the Evelyn Drive Area be named "Arthur Erickson Place", "Evelyn Drive", and "Vista Mews" as shown on the map in Appendix A to the November 2, 2009 report from the Community Planner.
Mayor: noteworthy Erickson family has agreed to have his name used
auspicious for us
[Sop returns]
11. Spirit Trail Greenway Community Engagement Strategy Update (File:  1785 19)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report dated October 26, 2009 from the Director, Engineering & Transportation be received for information.
Mayor: two ppl to speak; Mr Fung is there a presentation?
RF: asked to report back; one of the major elements, WG felt M shd pursue ...
staff are doing that
> Joe Adair: good evening, shd say Good night
matter of routing between 19th and 24th; at the mtg summer of 2008 route along rlwy "abandoned" said by the Mayor and cclrs that were there
counted on by hundreds there; can residents believe abandoned?
Mayor: that's why the report is from PkR to 13th to connect with NV
then out west, not sure new mbrs of Ccl
JA: but the drawing still shows along there so after saying abandoned, still shows
RF: in specific response re between 19th and 24th for illustrative purposes felt useful to look at the general banding
not there in the WG's report as a plan
merely defines a zone so some basis to address the residents
Mayor: ppl riding their bikes on Argyle and Bellevue; the report talks about 13th east
MS: perhaps we cd ask if any plans at current time to put Spirit Trail on n side
RF: staff no plans ; no attempts to further that along
Mayor: perhaps set up as way to communicate
JA: come up again
Mayor: xxx
> Neil Lyons: Esquimalt; a personal interest in Edgewater condos, speaking on behalf of many residents along that area (19th)
residents of homes backing on CN rlwy bet 19th and 24th, maps on website that in spite of the mtg at the srs' ctr, maps still show the trail adjacent to the rail line
why left? misleading
Cclr Sop, wd you like to answer?
Sop: yes, I wd; at the time  WG wd not use; a year with a process to find an alternate route
line might have been on a plan but not chosen route
NL: appreciate however shown as a distinct line on the Internet
Mayor: think we shd have a further mtg with you
NL: given that CN is on record unequivocably opposed b/c of liability, has Ccl or staff seriously considered alternatives presented to them, such as one from the WG, trail to incorporate features such as M Hall, Memorial Park, ice rink, new Rec ctr, etc
Mayor: you mean a route along Fulton?
NL: I know you've seen proposals, one in WG's report, recognized and studied particularly b/c CN
RF: any and all will be explored when we get to that stage in consultation with the cmnty.
Mayor: stage right now, building to 13th
NL: I understand
12. Westmount Road Traffic Calming Plan (File:  1805-14)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report dated November 16, 2009 from the Manager of Roads & Transportation be received for information.
RF: given the amt of corresp recv'd, beneficial to elaborate a bit on this project
Ask Brent Dozzi to show some slides in the field
BD: unequivocably project a huge success;  Slide of Westmount Road mini-roundabout
identified a speeding problem along that route; accidents, fatalities with chn
worked closely with residents and ICBC, to come up with plan, summarized on p 3
the 85 percentile speed mid60s to 50s, mean speed 50kmh dropped; the excessive 70 to 140kmh have been reduced by 84%
six-fold reduction impressive
costs have been questioned: $55K, of wch $10K contributed by ICBC
cost of sign borne entirely by Westmount Chevron and residents
sign made from an old cedar log inserted -- slides; will take any questions
[centre] medians; a few more shots, quickly go through pictures; net loss of asphalts
Mayor: is Tom Fry here this evening? perhaps we cd hear your presentation as well
> Tom Fry: Westmount Rd; primary reason started, v dangerous road to live on, two chn killed on road, ICBC substantiated that, as did Chevron
one thing I'd like to compliment our Mayor on is her open style of governance, appreciate as do all the residents of Westmount
I come from Ottawa, my degree's in public administration, although I went directly to biz to get away from govt, here I am before you
nice to be able, starting, working through, concluding successfully
Gareth Rowlands, head of WV Transit, has stepped up to the plate as well.  He's spoken to all his bus drivers and have them doing the speed limit, well below even the average of 58kph; prior to that clocked some bus drivers at 76kph on the street, v dangerous
police have been somewhat responsive, wish more
Interim Chief Almas was going to look at Brent's analysis, look at when speed high
it's still high and given that the average is 58 and mean is 50, half the ppl are still speeding
haven't had opp to speak to new Chief Lepine, intend to
in the meantime some tightening end of circle so habitual ticketed, only way to ticket, perhaps given income, ticketed enough to get licence removed; some habitual speeders
b/c of attitude, some think driving a right not a privilege
Brent Dozzi did a good job
some were against it and when I talked to them about reasons, explained they understand and now they do speed limit
was out walking my dog, prior to traffic calming, none of this wd hv occurred
one big SUV with three drivers behind him stopped and signalled me across; I looked to the west and there was another SUV with five cars behind, so I was able to be waved through, prior not
other instances, diff to get out of my driveway, now stop to let me in, ...... without traffic circle wd not have happened; circle controls speed in both directions; in short think great what was done
great value to have the open style
Canada is the most regulated country in world, bar none; Soviet Union was close but it's no longer around, and Russia is going the other way
v v regulated; can't compliment Mayor enough
calls from other groups, attending mtgs of other groups; offered explanations of what we accomplished
Mayor: thank you for you leadership; also opened the doors to a fair bit of criticism of mbrs of Ccl
as did for you; know it was a difficult adjustment for you, many ppl?
is it starting to settle down a little bit and be understood, Ccl's two questions
Sop: wonder how many more times we have to take staff time to answer letters as Mr Dozzi has time and time again; constant phone calls that I've received, that this was a wrong thing to do; that it was a waste of money
this traffic-calming biz that the Traffic Dept is doing is going to fit right into the Transportation plan, and it saves lives and is sensible just as this gentleman has stated
why we constantly get this that it's a waste of money; we don't know what we're doing; it just goes on
why shd we answer staff time of answering these letters any more when this is a final example of the staff and citizens working together to solve a problem, a dangerous problem.
Mayor: hope achieve better understanding and support for this initiative
ML: thank Cclr Sop for all of my preamble to the motion
Mayor: skip 13 and 14 to Dec 7
13. Establishment of a District of West Vancouver Awards Committee (File:  0116-20-AWARD)
RECOMMENDED: THAT Council approve the establishment of a District of West Vancouver Awards Committee that will ensure community recognition in Heritage, Youth, Environment, and other program areas deemed appropriate are effectively administered and celebrated year over year.
14. Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4603, 2009 (Home Craft, Occupation or Business) (File:  1610-20-4603)
This bylaw received first reading at the September 21, 2009 meeting, and was the subject of a Public Hearing held on October 5 and a Reconvened Public Hearing held on November 2, 2009.
        RECOMMENDED: be read a second and third time.
{lady left furious -- waited so long then skipped and not covered tonight; in any case she cdn't have spoken.}
15. Traffic and Parking Bylaw No. 4370, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4618, 2009 (Neighbourhood [Zero-Emission] Vehicles) (File:  1800 00/1610 20 4618)
        This bylaw received first, second, and third readings at the November 2, 2009 meeting.
16. Consent Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence
Item 17 - Licence Agreement for a Child Care Centre at Gordon House
Item 18 - Correspondence List.
17. Licence Agreement for a Child Care Centre at Gordon House (File:  1145-02)
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report dated November 5, 2009 be received for information.
MS: signed agreement with Bellabee group
thank Leanne Sexsmith and Anne Mooi, staff's work
really good operator, v fair agreement for both parties; all looking forward to opening date January 1st, 2010.
Sop: will wait to next mtg
Mayor: thank Acting Mayor Panz
Mayor: I have John Eaves, are you here?  thx for your patience; wrt Sunset Lane
> J Eaves; and BC Rail properties subdivision; my wife is Denise; will stick to my notes
all props north from MDr from 3539 to 3751 are accessed by the BC Rail Properties' Sunset Lane
We purchased the property in Nov 2006 with intent of building a home for retirement
in spring of 2007, BCR made a formal application to subdivide its easement along Sunset Lane into 29 lots to be offered for sale to the adjacent Sunset Lane properties
since then, now 33 months, our plans to build on an enforced hold
after three years of ownership, losing potentially the ability to construct the house and we're still potentially looking at a heavy financial loss
sorry to end the evening on this note
The lengthy and ongoing negotiations between BC Rail Properties and the DWV formed the initial delay but more damaging to me was the District's blocking of the construction by withholding the DVP
The DVP process has historical precedence for that area in recognition of the non-conforming nature of the properties' access by Sunset Lane
withholding of the DVP process allegedly put in place as leverage against the prop owners, and to encourage them to purchase the subdivided easement lots once subdivided either directly through BCR or the District
prior to purchasing the prop in 2006 we discussed with the Planner at that time, Mr Nicholls, the feasibility of building a house to meet our retirement needs at 3563 MDr
favourable response even though lots in that area were non-conforming; precedence or planning approval through DVP process had long been established
The area is zoned as RS4 but 18 of the 24 lots facing MDr are non-conforming either in terms of area or in site width
Eight props have bldg envelopes ranging from zero sq ftg to 350sf; nothing can be built on them; 11 bldg envelopes under 900sf; all of these are unbuildable without a DVP
all became non-conforming b/c of the appropriation of the land in 1950s for the building of the PGE railway
Removal of the DVP process has had a major negative impact on the value of our props
The majority of the homes in our area are 60 years or older so value in the land
without means to gain planning approval, the value of all our props is v much depreciated, and the ability to sell is greatly diminished
one prop is currently empty, all offers collapsed, a direct result of the moratorium on the DVP process
another house is near completion, has no legal access and no garages
nearly finished
I ask Ccl to continue negotiations with BCR regarding the lane and the easement but pls reinstate the DVP process or another process similar so we may carry on with our lives
Appreciate recent efforts of Ccl to progress negotiations to a hopefully agreeable conclusion
also thank Mr Sokol for being here so late tonight and thank for putting up with our complaints and endeavouring to find a satisfactory soln that will help
have to emphasize the severity of the situation on at least two prop owners, namely my wife and I, I do know other owners in a similar situation
I look to Ccl to take this into account, in their negotiations with BCR Props, to limit the value of the subdividers' loss, to recognize there's a limit on the value the subdivided lots have for the prop owners, and to treat all prop owners equitably, honestly, and equally
I'm in favour of purchasing the part of the subdivided easement adjacent to ourselves, but only at a fair price
Tonight, I ask you again have written sev times, some replies, pls find a way to free prop owners, like ourselves, who are stuck in the middle of negotiations going on for many years
Mayor: thank you.  Mr McRadu or Mr Sokol
CAO: negs for quite a while; we are getting close
looking at a number of diff scenarios to be able to secure the land
some discussion with Ccl, will have more
value as well as recouping taxpayers' dollars
preparing a biz case for you; if going to invest taxpayers' dollars, as you directed us, has to be a strong biz case in what way that money will be returned; coming forward
wrt re-implementing the DVP process, that will be part of the package; if DVP is allowed to go through without some type of agreement for purchase then there's going to be further complications, so a report is coming forward to Ccl.
Mayor: appreciate the pressure you're keeping on us; been going on a long time; sensitive set of negotiations as you can appreciate
wonder if any sort of time frame for conclusion
CAO: couple of things facing us
can bring back an interim report b/c involves a purchase and a land deal, will have to be dealt with in camera first of all to determine the biz case for this
We cd probably bring an interim report next week, but negs still ongoing; we're close but have to be comfortable money recouped, that's the challenge; will be bringing an interim report, hoping soon
JN: have to ask why moratorium on DVP process wch was not there before? it was open, historically established sudden moratorium?  Why do that? why put a leverage against homeowners? don't see why.
Mayor: will try to get you an answer
Sokol: DVP is a discretionary permit granted by the M to prop owners
Particularly in the situation now where the M is looking at purchasing the prop, as CAO pointed out, if the M purchases the land and if we issue the DVP that lessens our chance to recoup the taxpayers' investment so until we figure out the strategy for what the purchase price is going to be, and how we might sell off those properties, if we were to issue a DVP we wd imperil the structure of the biz plan
CAO: as a complication we're facing; not all the owners wish to purchase, we recognize some want to desperately want to purchase now, but some don't
until we have a sound biz case that deals with all the props, there are going to be some props that are going to be orphaned
JN: all I can say--
Mayor: --I'm sorry, we're just not set up to have this kind of exchange at any point in our agenda but we appreciate you stayed so late, we've heard what you have to say. We do have to get on with the mtg
JN: thank you
Mayor: and I know we'll be talking some more
JN: pls do
Mayor: any more questions or comments?  then I will ask Cclr Sm for motion to adjourn
MS: move that the lengthy ccl mtg be adjourned
Mayor: seconded by Cclr Panz.
 22.  ADJOURNMENT  11:02

=====  CCL AGENDA Dec 7th  =====
        November 16, 2009 Public Hearing; and November 16, 2009 Regular Council Meeting.
3. West Vancouver Seniors' Activity Centre (File:  0115-20-SACA1)  PowerPoint presentation to be provided.
4. Civic Site Parking (File:  2100-01)  --  Information to be provided.
5. Status Report on the Progress of the Climate Action Working Group (File:  0117-20-CAWG) (On Table)
1. The report from the Manager of Sustainability titled "Status Report on the Progress of the Climate Action Working Group", dated November 22, 2009 be received for information.
2. The greenhouse gas reduction targets of, at least a 33% reduction below 2007 levels by 2020 and at least an 80% reduction by 2050, as proposed by the province be considered by the Climate Action Working Group to determine how they can be achieved in West Vancouver; and
3. Staff, in consultation with the CAWG, consult with the community on these proposed targets prior to preparing and present a proposed Official Community Plan amendment on targets for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, and policies and actions proposed with respect to achieving the targets, as required under the Local Government Act, Section 877(3), known as Bill 27.
6. Process for Including Greenhouse Gas Reduction Targets and Policies in the Official Community Plan (Bill 27 Requirement) (File:  1610-20-4625)
THAT the process for including greenhouse gas reduction targets and policies in the Official Community Plan, including a proposed public consultation program, as set out in the November 27, 2009 report from the Community Planner be approved.
7. SymbioCity Learning Exchange and Technical Tour of Sweden  (File:  0145-01)
THAT the report dated November 16, 2009 from the Director, Engineering & Transportation entitled, "SymbioCity Learning Exchange and Technical Tour of Sweden" be received for information.
8. 2010 Preview Assessment Roll (File:  0175-20-BCAA2)
THAT the report dated November 30, 2009 from the Director of Finance regarding "2010 Preview Assessment Roll" be received for information.
9. Utilities Infrastructure Management (File:  1700-07)
1.  Council acknowledge the preliminary conclusions arising from infrastructure management studies on the District's Utilities systems;
2.  Council [support] an approach to 2010 Sewer and Water Utility rates that defers planned increases to capital renewal budgets until 2011, in order to engage the public with respect to long term infrastructure issues during the coming year;
3.  Staff be instructed to prepare utility rate bylaws that incorporate increases in Metro Vancouver regional sewer and water expenditures, allow for the municipal cost share of sewer and water infrastructure stimulus projects, and reflect increases in the contracts for garbage collection and recycling services; and
4.  The report from the Manager, Utilities entitled "Utilities Infrastructure Management" be received for information.
10. Dundarave Village - Highway Service and Attraction Signage (File:  1785-09)
THAT Council approve the expenditure of $7,000 from the 2009 Road Capital Budget for the construction and installation of four highway service and attraction signs for Dundarave Village.
11. Establishment of a District of West Vancouver Awards Committee (File:  0116-20-AWARD)
This item was deferred from the November 16, 2009 Regular Council Meeting.
THAT Council approve the establishment of a District of West Vancouver Awards Committee that will ensure community recognition in Heritage, Youth, Environment, and other program areas deemed appropriate are effectively administered and celebrated year over year.
12. Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4603, 2009 (Home Craft, Occupation or Business) (File:  1610-20-4603)
This item was deferred from the November 16, 2009 Regular Council Meeting.  Council is not permitted to receive any further submissions on this bylaw until after the bylaw is adopted.  This bylaw was the subject of a Public Hearing held on October 5, and reconvened and closed on November 2, 2009.
RECOMMENDED: be read a second, and third time.
13. Zoning Bylaw No. 2200, 1968, Amendment Bylaw No. 4617, 2009 (for Secondary Suites) (File:  1610-20-4617)
Council is not permitted to receive any further submissions on this bylaw until after the bylaw is adopted. This bylaw was the subject of a Public Hearing held and closed on November 16, 2009.
RECOMMENDED: be read a second, and third time.
14. Fees and Charges Bylaw No. 4414, 2005, Amendment Bylaw No. 4616, 2009 for Secondary Suites (File:  1610-20-4616)
1.  ... as attached to the report from the Director of Planning Lands and Permits dated October 23, 2009, and as attached to this report dated November 30, 2009 be amended to include a First Licence Fee of $615 for a secondary suite and a renewal fee of $465; and
2.  ... be read a second, and third time.
15. Fees and Charges Review, and Proposed Bylaw Amendments  (File:  1610-20-4615)
RECOMMENDED: ... be read a first, second, and third time.
16. 2009 Budget Amendment Bylaw - 5 Year Financial Plan Bylaw No. 4592, 2009, Amendment Bylaw No. 4624, 2009 (File:  1610-20-4624)
RECOMMENDED: be introduced and read a first, second, and third time.
{...increasing the 2009 budget by ~$300K (just short of 1%) with details in the memo -- it's a pity some of the shortfalls and extra expenditures were not anticipated (think a resident warned of one, the drop in revenue from building permits) or provided for after discussion; of course the extra for snow clearance is obvious/understandable.  Since the "McGavin" field has an interesting history wrt its funding -- initially offered as an amenity in return for upzoning and turned out to cost us money -- intriguing that will cost $236K with $184K to be recovered in 2010. 
You see it's recommended for three readings with amendments not allowed after second reading -- so how many residents do you think will have read this before the decision, oh sorry, rather approval?  Let's count on mbrs of Ccl having read it in the couple of days but I wdn't bet on much elucidation let alone critical analysis.  In any case, if this has to be passed by the end of the year and there's only one more ccl mtg.  There is therefore little opportunity even to look at options.
What's more important than how Ccl spends our money?
Well, collecting it, presumably, and we haven't even had a peek at any documentation for the 2010 budget -- keep in mind when the 2009 was sped through this spring without a finance group/cmte to review it, it was stated that 2010's budget wd be started on "May or June".  The Finance Cmte was belatedly formed, now is solely mbrs of Ccl and no residents, and has only had a few mtgs, some recently held though marked as cancelled.
In these dire and fluctuating economic times even more reason to be careful and cautious about taxation and expenditures.......... }
17. Proposed 2010 Council Meeting Schedule (File:  0120-01)
RECOMMENDED: ... as attached to the report dated November 23, 2009 from the Manager of Legislative Services be approved.
18. Appointment of Acting Mayors for 2009/2010 (File: 0120-01)
RECOMMENDED: THAT Acting Mayors for 2009/2010 be appointed as follows:
December/January: Councillor Soprovich  /  February/March: Councillor Evison
April/May: Councillor Walker  /  June/July: Councillor Lewis
August/September: Councillor Smith  /  October/November: Councillor Panz
19. Metro Vancouver Board and Committee Appointments (File: 0185-01)  Information to be provided.
20. Appointment of Council Representatives to Boards and Committees (File:  0115-01)  Information to be provided.
21. Consent Agenda Items - Reports and Correspondence
 Item 22 - Support for the Union of BC Municipalities (UBCM) Grant: Healthy Food and Beverage Sales, Phase 4
Item 23 - Development Variance Permit Application No. 09-003 (6165 Gleneagles Drive)
Item 24 - Development Variance Permit Application No. 09-038 (1313 Fulton Avenue)
Item 25 - Correspondence List.
22. Support for the Union of British Columbia Municipalities (UBCM) Grant: Healthy Food and Beverage Sales, Phase 4 (File: 3006-02)
RECOMMENDED: THAT West Vancouver District Council support the WV Community Center applying to the Union of BC Municipalities (UBCM) for a Healthy Food and Beverage grant in the amount of $7,500 and to provide overall grant and financial management for same.
23. Development Variance Permit Application No. 09-003 (6165 Gleneagles Drive) (File:  1010-20-09-003)
RECOMMENDED: to allow an existing dwelling with a third storey and a covered deck to be retained, will be considered on Monday, January 11, 2010.
        {does that mean they were built without a permit???}
24. Development Variance Permit Application No. 09-038 (1313 Fulton Avenue) (File:  1010-20-09-038)
RECOMMENDED: to allow an existing dwelling with an addition to the main floor and basement, will be considered on Monday, January 11, 2010.
        {again, 'existing' so built without a permit???}
25. Correspondence List (File:  0120 24)
Correspondence received up to November 18, 2009
Requests for Delegation -- No items presented.
Action Required
(1) November 15, 2009, regarding Marine Access to West Vancouver
       Referred to Director of Parks and Community Services for consideration and response.
(2) November 10, 2009, regarding Proposed Fish and Chips Concession
       Referred to the Chief Administrative Officer for consideration and response.
No Action Required
(3) Committee and Board Meeting Minutes
        (a) West Vancouver Memorial Library Board - September 16, 2009
(4) Suggestions and Support for renaming the Seniors' Centre to "The C. Peter Jones Memorial Seniors' Centre" (7 submissions)
Responses to Correspondence  --  No items presented.
Responses to Questions in Question Period  --  No items presented.
Correspondence received up to November 20, 2009
Requests for Delegation  --  No items presented.
Action Required
(5) S. Bell-Irving Gray, November 19, 2009, regarding Reinstatement of Provincial Arts Funding
       Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.
No Action Required  --  No items presented.
Responses to Correspondence  --  No items presented.
Responses to Questions in Question Period  --  No items presented.
Correspondence received up to November 30, 2009
Requests for Delegation  --  No items presented.
Action Required
(6) H. Bains, MLA, Surrey-Newton, and G. Coons, North Coast, Nov 17, re Transportation and Highway Topics
       Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.
(7) November 25, 2009, regarding Road Barrier at 3700 Block of Marine Drive
       Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
(8) Letters regarding Fuel/Oil Testing Monitoring Permit (3 Submissions)
       Referred to Fire Chief for consideration and response.
(9) Mayor Drew, Lower Mainland Treaty Advisory Committee, Nov 23, re Appointments for 2010
       Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.
No Action Required
(10) Committee and Board Meeting Minutes
(a) Design Review Committee - September 10, 2009
(b) Board of Variance - September 9 and October 21, 2009
(c) West Vancouver Memorial Library Board - October 21, 2009
(d) North Shore Advisory Committee on Disability Issues - October 29, 2009
(11) November 23, 2009, regarding Hollyburn Ridge Cabins Permit Fee Increase
(12) November 22, 2009, regarding Hollyburn Ridge Cabins
(13) November 21, 2009, regarding Value for Services Poll
(14) Suggestions and Support for renaming the Seniors' Centre to "The C. Peter Jones Memorial Seniors' Centre" (12 submissions)
Responses to Correspondence
(15) Mayor Goldsmith-Jones, November 18, 2009, reply to T. Canning, North Shore Restorative Justice regarding Request for Proclamation of Restorative Justice Week (November 15-22)
(16) B. Dozzi, Mgr, Roads and Transportation, November 19, regarding 21st Street Traffic Calming Project
(17) B. Dozzi, Mgr, Roads and Transportation, November 19, regarding Eagle Island - Current Parking Assignments
(18) B. Dozzi, Mgr, Roads and Transportation, November 23, regarding Westmount Road Traffic Calming Project
Responses to Questions in Question Period  --  No items presented.
Correspondence received up to December 2, 2009
Requests for Delegation  ==  No items presented.
Action Required
(19) November 30, 2009, regarding Hollyburn Ridge Cabins
       Referred to Director of Parks and Community Services for consideration and response.
(20) Letters and responses regarding Snow Removal on 18th St Between Queens and Rosebery (5 Submissions)
       Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
(21) W. C. Evans, President, W.C. Evans Inc., regarding Annual Inspection Fee Service at 1859-1865 Marine Drive
       Referred to the Fire Chief for consideration and response.
(22) November 5 regarding Chippendale Parking and Maintenance Vehicles and response dated November 7
       Referred to the Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response.
(23) G. Pajari, November 18, 2009, regarding Adhering to the Meeting Requirements of the Community Charter and Council Procedure Bylaw
       Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response.
{Adherence: This is wrt notification and openness of mtgs -- an issue touted but subject to abuse/overuse of closure.}
(24) November 23, 2009, regarding Sunset Lane, BC Rail Properties and the District of West Vancouver
       Referred to the Director of Planning, Lands and Permits for consideration and response.
No Action Required
(25) B. Dewar, Chief Executive Officer, 2010 Legacies Now, regarding 2010andBeyond.ca website
(26) D. Corrigan, Mayor, City of Burnaby, regarding Proposed Costs and Governance Structure Associated with the Police Records Information Management Environment
(27) Suggestions and Support for renaming the Seniors' Centre to "The C. Peter Jones Memorial Seniors' Centre" (4 submissions)
Responses to Correspondence  --  No items presented.
Responses to Questions in Question Period  --  No items presented.

===  INFObits  ===
>  HOME CHILDREN: VSun Nov 16 pB4
100,000 sent from UK to Canada between 1869 and 1948 often without the consent of the children, some told their parents were dead.  Thousands were sent to Australia (up until 1969) and other British colonies.  Cheaper to send to Canada than Australia.
Canada defeated Russia 22 - 6 at Burnaby's Swangard Stadium in the first international rugby test match between the two countries.  For more on this story, visit www.vancouversun.com
>  Survivor Corps Award  --  http://www.survivorcorps.org/netcommunity/niarchos/abuelaish
Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish (left) was presented with the 2009 Niarchos Prize for Survivorship for his courageous voice during the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  Dr. Abuelaish is a Palestinian obstetrician and gynecologist who treats both Israelis and Palestinians.  During the war in Gaza, his media appearances provided the Israeli public with a rare glimpse of the human cost suffered by residents of Gaza during the attacks. 
>  The World in 2010 (according to The Economist)
Would you have imagined that manufacturing will outweigh farming in India in 2010? That Qatar will boast the largest man-made structure in centuries when it completes its Ras Laffen gas plant? And that Prince-of-Wales check fabric will be de rigueur for business attire?
> Leonard Roy Frank sends the following facts re US troops in Iraq:
Percentage change since President Obama's inauguration in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq: - 16
Percentage change in the number of armed private contractors working for the United States there: + 52
From: HARPER'S INDEX, "Harper's", December 2009. The figures, as of October, are from the U.S. Department of Defense and Congressional Research Service in Washington.
> P3: POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY PONDERING . . . . . . . [warning: serious]
It will come as no surprise to you that having observed, more or less, politics/people in over 100 countries how societies choose to govern themselves and how the community functions, fascinates me.  Just happened to catch this interview.  Apparently, Slavoj Zizek (whom I'd never heard of) is considered on the fringe, and Sackur was, IMO, not that respectful.  Some comments seemed outrageous however several statements and some of his analysis rang horrifyingly true to my ears -- comprehensive and perceptive, stepping back to take a worldview: China improving standard of life without democracy; collapse of Communism and now imminent for Capitalism; Socialism with a human face --> Capitalism with a human face; Afghanistan with a liberal/western monarch in a secular society supplanted with religion; 21st century on brink of ?????
Page last updated at 16:23 GMT, Monday, 23 November 2009
Slavoj Zizek: Communism "A total failure"
Slavoj Zizek is one of the world's most controversial political philosophers. From the 9/11 terrorist attacks to the global financial meltdown he portrays a liberal capitalist system in crisis.
He still calls himself a Communist but describes its 20th Century version as a total failure. But how seriously should we take a man who sees the good in Stalin?
Watch/Listen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8374940.stm

===  BEERWATCH  ===  32%!
'World's strongest' beer with 32% strength launched
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/8380412.stm
Page last updated at 12:58 GMT, Thursday, 26 November 2009
A controversial Scottish brewery has launched what it described as the world's strongest beer - with a 32% alcohol content.
Tactical Nuclear Penguin has been unveiled by BrewDog of Fraserburgh.  BrewDog was previously branded irresponsible for an 18.2% beer called Tokyo, which it then followed with a low alcohol beer called Nanny State.
Managing director James Watt said a limited supply of Tactical Nuclear Penguin would be sold for =A330 each.
This is an extremely strong beer; it should be enjoyed in small servings and with an air of aristocratic nonchalance
Tactical Nuclear Penguin label warning -- He said: "This beer is about pushing the boundaries, it is about taking innovation in beer to a whole new level." Mr Watt added that a beer such as Tactical Nuclear Penguin should be drunk in "spirit sized measures".  A warning on the label states: "This is an extremely strong beer; it should be enjoyed in small servings and with an air of aristocratic nonchalance. In exactly the same manner that you would enjoy a fine whisky, a Frank Zappa album or a visit from a friendly yet anxious ghost."
However Jack Law, of Alcohol Focus Scotland, described it was a "cynical marketing ploy" and said: "We want to know why a brewer would produce a beer almost as strong as whisky."
The beer has been launched on the day alcohol was at the top of the political agenda with the unveiling of the Scottish government's Alcohol Bill including proposals for minimum pricing on drink. Meanwhile, BrewDog's plans for a new headquarters to produce millions of bottles of beer a year have been approved by Aberdeenshire Council. The decision was taken at a full council meeting despite having been recommended for refusal by officers because the site at Potterton, near Aberdeen, is in the green belt.
+  Big Beer -- Stories of amalgamation: http://www.counterpunch.org/monkerud11272009.html

===  NEWSWATCH  ===  Border Tales
+  CANADIAN BORDER ENTRY for an American
Recently the Canadian border agents detained and prevented Amy Goodman from giving a scheduled talk in Vancouver (with time limit on her stay she did manage to speak in Victoria.  For all intents and purposes apparently afraid she'd say something about the Olympics wch befuddled her b/c it was not her topic or the title of her presentation.
Subject: In tonight's programme
From: Newsnight <newsnight@ebs.bbc.co.uk>
Wednesday 2 December 2009 - 2230 GMT - BBC Two; Presented by Gavin Esler in DC and Jon Sopel in London                                                                                                                                                                  Hello from Washington.
America, as we British sometimes fail to notice, is another country.
When I arrived from London two days ago I was stopped as usual by the immigration authorities. I handed over my passport, my completed immigration and customs forms, was fingerprinted and photographed.
"Why are you here?" the Homeland Security lady asked me.
"Because the president is scheduled to announce a big increase in US troop numbers in Afghanistan."
"Who do you work for?"
"The BBC."
"How do you spell that?"
Hmmm. A tricky one. How do you spell BBC?
"Er, B... B... C..."
The lady looked at me.
"Do you have any identification?"
"You are holding my passport," I said, with a smile.
I tell this story because, while I love America and lived here for many years, the ways of the US bureaucracy are often beyond weird.
And now the day after President Barack Obama's big speech that huge bureaucracy, military and political, will slowly grind through to put more troops in Afghanistan and find out how to pay for it.
We'll have a full report on the impact of the speech, and I am heading off to Capitol Hill to interview the man who could have been president, Republican Senator John McCain.
That's if my identification papers are acceptable to the gatekeepers.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ===  BOOKWATCH  === Ifferisms -- by Dr Mardy Grothe who writes:
I was delighted to see my new "Ifferisms" book featured as a Holiday gift suggestion in several recent newspaper articles.  This past week, the book was also recommended by two people for whom I have the greatest respect. "The Language Perfectionist" Don Hauptman praised the book in his latest column for the "Early to Rise" e-newsletter.  And the respected book editor Barbara McNichol said some heartwarming things in her "Word Trippers" e-zine.  To see those reviews, use the following links: http://www.earlytorise.com/author/don-hauptman and http://nonfictionbookeditor.com/book-reviews/
If you're still looking for holiday gifts for friends, family, customers, business associates, or your favorite student or teacher, you might want to consider any one of my five word and language books.  There's a good chance your favorite local bookseller will have them in stock, but you should also know that Amazon.com does a steep discount on all my books (selling them for just over ten bucks each).  Plus, Amazon.com is currently offering my "Viva la Repartee" book at the unbelievably special price of only $5.98.  For details on that particular bargain, go to: <http://www.amazon.com/Viva-Repartee-Comebacks-Historys-Wordsmiths/dp/B0013L2EL8/ref=pd_sim_b_1>
      {Yes, I'm in the acknowledgements b/c I reviewed the manuscript but no, don't get $ from sales. -- CR}

===  WEBWATCH  === US Navy Drill Team
US Navy Ceremonial Guard Silent Drill Team was invited to compete in an International Tattoo in Norway.  The Navy competed against military units from all over NATO and won first place. Once you see the video you'll understand why they won. See:  http://www.whc.net/rjones/USN/USN_team.html

===  LANGUAGEWATCH  ===  Cape Spear, NL
As you know the Olympic Torch went to Cape Spear so I was curious about the place.
Cape Spear, located on the Avalon Peninsula near St. John's, Newfoundland, is the easternmost point in North America[citation needed] (52=B037'W), excluding Greenland (see Nordostrundingen).  The Portuguese named this location "Cabo da Esperan=E7a" which means "cape of hope", which became "Cap d'Espoir" in French and finally "Cape Spear".

*  intexticated - distracted because texting on a cellphone while driving a vehicle
* Notable Word Clusters for 2009 -- Twitter related:  Tweeps, Tweetup, Twitt, Twitterati, Twitterature, Twitterverse/sphere, Retweet, Twibe, Sweeple, Tweepish, Tweetaholic, Twittermob, Twitterhea
*  My last issue of BBC Magazine reported that the Royal Opera House in London had just staged the first Twitter Opera -- Twitterdammerung!

===  QUOTATIONS / PUNS / SILLY SECTION  === plus Tiger Woods

Question:  What was most important -- the circumstances at that time [i.e., when the Soviet Union broke apart in 1989] or the leaders?
Gorbachev: The times work through people in history. I'll tell you something else that is very important about what subsequently happened in your country. When people came to the conclusion that they had won the cold war, they concluded that they didn't need to change. Let others change. That point of view is mistaken, and it undermined what we had envisaged for Europe -- mutual collective security for everyone and a new world order. All of that was lost because of this muddled thinking in your country, and which has now made it so difficult to work together. World leadership is now understood to mean that America gives the orders.
MIKHAIL GORBACHEV (former president of the Soviet Union, 1985-1991), Katrina vanden Heuvel and Stephen F. Cohen interview,  "Gorbachev on 1989", Nation, 16 November 2009.

o  In a democracy debate is the breath of life.  -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, General and US President (1890 - 1969)
o  There are few nudities so objectionable as the naked truth.  -- Agnes Repplier, American essayist (1855 - 1950)
o  They deem him their worst enemy who tells them the truth.  -- Plato, Greek philosopher (429 -347BCE)
o  Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it.  -- Arabic Proverb
o  The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think.
                        -- Aristotle, Greek philosopher (384 - 322BCE)
o  He that speaks truth must have one foot in the stirrup.  -- Turkish Proverb
o  Tell the truth, but keep one foot in the stirrup.  -- Arabian Proverb
o  An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish.
        Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head.
                        -- Eric Hoffer, American writer and philosopher (1902 - 1983)
o  I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of Him.
                        -- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Colombian journalist and novelist (b 1927)
o  Finance, n. The art and science of managing revenues and resources for the best advantage of the manager.
                     -- Ambrose Bierce, American writer, in (his) The Devil's Dictionary (1842 - 1914?)


An inebriated man and his drunken friend were sitting at a bar.
"Do you know what time it is?" asked the drunk.
"Sure," said the man.
"Thanks," said the drunk.
=  He dined with her at the local beanery and was immediately inflatuated.
=  I just finished reading Newton's Principia Mathematica, and found much of it to be rather derivative.

A man is recovering from surgery when a nurse asks him how he is feeling. 'I'm okay, but I didn't like the four-letter word the doctor used in surgery,' he answered.  
'What did he say?' asked the nurse.

Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It is already tomorrow in Australia.
                                --  The creator of Peanuts: Charles Schulz (1922 - 2000)

===  TIGER WOODS'S HANDICAP . . . . . .
=  Tiger's new movie is out: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Hydrant.
=  Apparently the police asked Tiger's wife how many times she hit him. She said "I don't know exactly -- but put me down for a 5."
=  Tiger Woods is so rich that he owns lots of expensive cars. Now he has a hole-in-one.
=  What's the difference between a car and a golf ball?  Tiger can drive a ball 400 yards.
=  What were Tiger Woods and his wife doing out at 2.30 in the morning?  They went clubbing.
=  Tiger Woods crashed into a fire hydrant and a tree. He couldn't decide between a wood and an iron.
=  Phil Mickelson contacted Tiger's wife to pick up some tips on how to beat Tiger!
=  What does Tiger Woods and a seal cub have in common? They both get clubbed by Norwegians.
=  Why did Tiger Woods leave his house so early? He wanted to get to the second hole.
Tiger Woods wasn't seriously injured in the crash, but he's still below par.

*  LITERARY REFERENCE with apologies to Milton:  Paradise Sloshed