WVM2010-17
July 5 NOTES
July 19 AGENDA
Calendar to July 31
by
Carolanne Reynolds, Editor
www.WestVan.org
Is summer finally
here?
IN THIS ISSUE:
MAIN ITEMS Ccl Mtg July 19: a LOOOOOONG closed
session (from 3pm); NSh Restorative Justice Society Annual
Report; 2009 Annual Report and Budget Amendments FOR PUBLIC
INPUT; DVP Applics for 2972 Park Lane, 925 Sentinel, 1395
Haywood; BCFerries Non-Enforcement of Noise Bylaw Jul 23 - 25; Animal
Control/Licence Bylaw; Cemetery Regs/Fees; OCP Amendment for Housing
Pilot Prog and Sec Stes Fees/Charges Bylaws for Adoption.
Wdn't you like to know about letters that
cd/shd be on the agenda for discussion?
Amendment/Cancellation of (Residential)
Land Use Contracts?
The property tax gap info re residences
and businesses in Ms by CFIB?
Response by DWV to protection of our glass
sponge reefs?
E-Comm 911 Report on the millions of
taxpayer dollars it spends?
(Some rather angry letters from
dog-owners, rather unfortunate.)
Information from ADRA on its aims and
submissions?
Lead-up to UBCM in September -- what will
DWV's positions be on the issues?
...We have to know about them to provide
input to Ccl so they can take our views to the
conference.
= Vive le Canada (New GG); from the EDITOR'S
DESK (DWV SALARIES; DWV FINANCE; WV popn stats; not
counting the Police Dept, 29 staff made over $100K in 2008; up to
65 in 2009), then Correspondence; UPDATES (Infrastructure:
plans/costs); E-Policing Alert -- Suspects to Identify
= CALENDAR to July 31st; CULTUREWATCH
(Theatre, Art, Music, Photography)
= Ccl Mtg NOTES July 5th: Dogs
on-leash; 2385 Haywood and 5618 Westport add'ns to H Register;
OCP Amendment for Housing Pilot Prog (to third reading); Sec
Stes Annual Fees (three readings); 2900block Rosebery paving
bylaw: HRA for 2055 Queens
= Ccl Mtg AGENDA July 19th
= ANIMALWATCH (BC Wildlife; white ravens; camel culture;
rat pups); SALMONWATCH (DFO Police; Aquaculture Regulations);
INFObits (Dalai Lama; Nelson Mandela); WEBWATCH (catfish/basa);
NEWSWATCH (Gaza photos); HERITAGEWATCH (b c binning house tours;
RoyalTea-by-the-Sea); MAIKU; QUOTATIONS/THOUGHTS/PUNS
=== Vive le CANADA ===
NEW GG
Legal scholar
David Johnston tipped to be new governor general: report
Canwest News Service July 7,
2010 8:50 PM
OTTAWA - Prime
Minister Stephen Harper has picked legal scholar David Johnston to be
Canada's next governor general, it was reported
Wednesday.
The bilingual
president of the University of Waterloo is set to become the Queen's
next representative in Canada in September, CTV said during its
nightly newscast.
Johnston, 69, is
known for his non-partisan status and extensive legal
background.
He holds a
bachelor's degree from Harvard, a law degree from Queen's University
in Kingston, Ont., and another from Cambridge in England.
Also a companion of
the Order of Canada, Johnston was the head of Montreal's McGill
University and a dean at the University of Western Ontario in London,
Ont. He has also taught at the University of Toronto and Queen's
University.
Read
more:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Legal+scholar+David+Johnston+tipped+governor+general+report/3248158/story.html#ixzz0t4mR7cvl
=== from the EDITOR'S DESK
=== Your $$$,
then Correspondence
For the Financial reports on the DWV, here's the URL to click
on:
http://www.westvancouver.ca/uploadedFiles/Your_Government/Financial_Information/Reports/Financial_Information_Act_Reports/FIA%20report%202009.pdf
They
also have information on contracts let -- to whom and for how
much.
+ POPULATION -- Fascinating
info re popn estimates -- we even decreased in 2007!:
2005 - 43,967 (1.43%);
2006
- 44,272 (0.69%);
2007
- 44,097 (-0.40%);
2008
- 44,452 (0.81%);
2009
- 44,452 (0.00%)
+ COUNCIL REMUNERATION:
Name/Position; Remuneration (plus) Expenses
MAYOR Goldsmith-Jones, Pam
$
70,520.40 (S 8,535.35 )
COUNCILLORS
Evison,
Michael
25,046.80 (
4,544.14 )
Lewis,
Michael
24,016.24 (
1,415.89 )
Panz,
Trish
24,016.24
( 303.80 )
Smith,
Michael
25,312.24
( -0-
)
Soprovich, William
25,046.80
( 866.00 )
Walker,
Shannon
25,312.24 (
1,576.39 )
Total For Mayor and Council $
219,270.96 + $ 17,241.57
+ EMPLOYEES ($100K+)
Those making over $75K must be made public and
can be found on the DWV website as noted below (Financial Info
Report); here is a list of those who received more than $100K last
year (however I have removed the names). Those $120K and higher
have been bolded. Note: WVPD is not included, but WVFD is.
Expenses is the second amt.
Captain
$
109,794.67
Manager - Park Programs
100,668.63
677.23
Assistant Fire Chief
116,078.06
782.61
Manager - Engineering Services
113,738.65
760.29
Lieutenant
105,505.08
486.30
Manager - Community Planning
127,028.83
1,652.41
Captain
109,174.32
610.00
Captain
111,240.19
815.65
Captain
107.795.17
Superintendent of Maintenance - Transit
103,979.24
180.52
Captain
107,568.42
480.00
Manager - Community Services
124,858.38
306.68
Equipment
Superintendent
101.374.56
1.467.46
Fire Chief
147,773.48
2,707.99
Manager - Roads &
Transportation
123,470.20
4,943.48
Captain
108,195.44
Assistant Fire Chief
106,056.54
2,605.21
Director, Engineering &
Transportation
153,733.68 6,351.51
Assistant Fire Chief
115,856.94
308.61
Director of Library Services
145,371.59
1,734.98
Captain - Fire
Prevention
105,151.25
1,381.91
Manager - Information
Technology
110,342.37
2,315.89
Captain
109,728.41
Lieutenant
111,032.09
610.00
Manager - Permits, Inspections and
Bylaws
120,768.96
2,386.16
Deputy Director of Human Resources & Payroll
Services
118,182.13
5.74
Manager - Sustainability, Environment & Heathy
Communities
106,537.52
245.62
Deputy Fire Chief
126,870.15
885.93
Manager - Community Services
111.713.59
1,908.63
Director of Finance
167,028.43
2,700.03
Lieutenant
110,684.92
1,220.00
Captain
111,906.81
Assistant Fire Chief
118,447.36
1,270.00
Deputy Chief Administrative
Officer
170,857.25
1,231.93
Utilities Superintendent -
Water
102,275.06
208.40
Captain
114,469.34
305.00
Captain
112,586.56
610.00
Assistant Manager - Permits and
Inspections
101,091.89
1,942.38
Captain
111,726.56
Mechanic -
Fire
107,666.16 385.73
Manager, Cultural Affairs &
Partnerships
106,614.59
1,812.21
Deputy Fire Chief
124,610.20
55.89
Chief Administrative Officer
208,992.15
6,964.53
Manager - Park
Operations
102,059.33
1,258.55
Director, Parks & Community
Services
127,646.43
2,350.90
Assistant Manager - Building Construction &
Contracts
112,628.14
1,334.57
Captain
105,351.75
Captain
106,438.36
Assistant Fire Chief
120,055.04
1.365.25
Land And Property Agent
100,749.50
414.76
Transit
Manager
112,082.66
2,602.61
Captain
108,324.73
Manager of Legislative Services
114,049.99
630.57
Captain
100,598.06
Lieutenant
106,487.90
Director of Planning, Lands, & Permits
156,229.05
2,702.85
Lieutenant
103,276.64
785.00
Captain
108,325.37
Manager - Development
Engineering
117,320.69
289.00
Captain
105,995.44
Roads Superintendent
109,413.60
110.16
Captain
106,574.35
Manager - Revenue & Collections
110,854.25
1,428.38
Manager - Financial Reporting &
Accounting
120,100.50
2,916.32
Total For Employees Over $75,000 (Excluding
Police) $ 19,595,974.77 $
146,028.93
+ WVM Subscriber Email:
David Marley sent his comments also published in
NSN:
..., among North Shore
municipalities the situation in West Vancouver is particularly
acute. A $56 million payroll, up 11% in one year alone, .... The
District of West Vancouver spends fully 30% more on salaries and
benefits than does the District of North Vancouver, which has almost
twice as many residents. This is
unacceptable....
As employee salaries and benefits
make up over 80% of the District's annual operating costs, it's long
past time to begin reducing the size of the payroll.
+ Update sent to WVM subscribers June 30 ($
and Letters)
1. REMUNERATION
As you know, I've always said that Ccl is underpaid and I
still hold that view. With expenses, for 2009 it was
$236,512.53.
That's for all our seven politicians put together -- and
it's only a bit more than what one mbr of staff is paid.
For the amount of time taken by mbrs of Ccl and the expertise and
responsibilities/obligations expected, they definitely ought to be
paid more than little over $20K -- a travesty and grossly unfair
-- and the mayor's position ought to have a salary of more than
$70K, especially when you consider the staff equivalent gets paid
three times more!
The seven answer to us; the ~600 staff through the CAO answer to
Ccl.
We vote for Ccl to carry out our wishes and their promises (check
them off as the term progresses).
The CAO is to make sure the staff carry out Ccl's wishes (and
provides Ccl with advice from expertise and experience).
The Report has some charts showing organization, helpful.
The info has remuneration for all employees over $75K (it used to
be $50K but list too long so upped it; it still runs several pages and
includes the Fire Dept but not the Police).
In 2008 about 30 staff made over $100K,
in 2009 it was more than double, about 65
--
wanna make bets on the numbers for 2010???
The highest was $209K.
The total remuneration (Ccl, Fire, Police) is ~$57M.
Yup ...and they won't even put your letters back on the
agenda..... :-(
anyway, I've been told this will be resolved on Friday, so stay
tuned. hoping :-) :-)
Some Comments:
Highest single staff remuneration: ~$210K for
2009; about 65 staff get over $100K -- shudder re 2010!
{... [Employee] remuneration is 80% of the
operating budget, and there have been large increases in
administration in the last few years. For example, from a MMgr
with a secretary (who also worked for the mayor) some years ago,
now administration has grown to two senior executives with more
clerical staff -- costing over $500K, over 1% of the
budget. There is no doubt more is being done for us so this
is not necessarily a complaint, rather a recommendation for efficiency
and review so that there's some control. The Value for Services
questionnaire virtually removed Administration from meaningful
evaluation or input since a single answer/rating was asked on the
whole $$$ grab-bag of Admin, Finance, Clerk's, etc, whereas Planning
and Parks cd be rated separately, on their division
alone.
That level of cleverness did not go unnoticed
by your Editor.}
2. CORRESPONDENCE STILL NOT ON THE AGENDA -- the
ludicrous becomes farce
See the July 5th ccl mtg transcript in Reports
(Sop) and PQP.
Brave Cclr Soprovich, yet again pointed out that it takes several
clicks for the public to get to the Correspondence. The good
news is that the Mayor and the MClk admitted somewhat buried and wd
look into it but, beggaring belief, one comment to Sop's wanting one
click (and finding it more easily or as Ccl does) was in effect the
Web doesn't work that way! "That's how the Web
works"!
Sop managed to ask about Correspondence being on the agenda
but was brushed off with "that's another question" and
discussion ended without dealing with that.
Swift diversion move, ball knocked out of his hand.
Even more amazingly risible since so obviously not true was:
"We've put it everywhere we can think of on the
website."
Pardon? They haven't heard anyone say back on the agenda under
Correspondence where it logically belongs and has been until the
recent unannounced disappearing act?
At PQP, and I chose not to respond to it, I was told I come
"every week" about the Correspondence. While close,
what is essential to note is that little by little in response, from
nowhere, to strange places, and most recently a footnote to the page
that has the agenda and minutes, we've inched closer to restoring the
Correspondence, having a list for residents to see the topics that are
mtg material Ccl just scroll down to see (but we can't scroll down and
don't even see the list on the ccl mtg agenda).
We're so close now! We need four
ccl mbrs who want Correspondence back on the agenda. How many
can you count on?
=== UPDATES
===
Infrastructure Management Plan
The need to replace
infrastructure is a challenge facing all municipalities, and West
Vancouver is no exception. By developing a long-term Infrastructure
Management Plan, the District will be able to address future needs in
an efficient, cost-effective manner. As the planning process
continues in 2010, public input will be sought. Regular updates will
be posted online as they become available. For further info, pls contact
the Engineering & Transportation Division at 925
7039.
Technical Reports and Infrastructure Information
Panels, June 2010 (27.4 MB)
=== E-POLICING ALERT ===
WVPD -- Suspects To Identify @
wvpd.ca
Date: 2010 July 14
Contact: Cst Kellie
English Telephone:
925 7349
West Vancouver Police thank you for your ongoing attention to the
"Suspects To Identify" page of our website. We
have new suspects to identify and need your help.
Please review all images at the link below and contact the named
investigators if you are able to assist.
wvpd.ca/breaking-stories/296-suspects-to-identify-can-you-help-us
A cash reward of up to $2,000.00 will be
paid for any info that leads to an arrest and charge. If you have any
information please call Crime Stoppers at: 1-800-222-TIPS
(8477) or by visiting the Crime Stoppers website.
=== CALENDAR to July
31st ===
All mtgs are at M Hall
unless indicated otherwise. NOTE: shown are mtgs known at
this date; often there are additions, changes, cancellations after WVM
goes out. Notices/mtgs/changes too late for the last WVM are
sent to subscribers as updates. Check the DWV
Calendar: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Calendar.aspx
Dundarave (Saturdays) and Ambleside
(Sundays) Farmers' Markets are back!
*** A
sparkling gem in Vancouver's summer crown: July 21, 24, 28, 31
***
http://www.celebration-of-light.com/
== Wed July 21
~ 5pm ~
Awards Cmte mtg
~ 7pm ~
Bd of Variance in Ccl Chamber (but Library Bd mtg CANCELLED, was July
14)
== Thurs July 22
~
4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte
~
5:30pm ~ WV Police Bd mtg in WVPD boardroom
== Sunday July
25
~ 11am - 3pm ~ Dog
Washes! The WV SPCA
holds a dog wash on the last Sunday of the month
Cost = $20 per dog.
Owners can enjoy free coffee and a tour of the shelter while their
dogs get cleaned up!
== Thursday July
29 ~ 5pm ~ NSh Cmte
on Disability Issues mtg CANCELLED
=== Friday July 30
Harmony Arts Festival starts, see
http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=26032
=== Saturday July 31 from 2 - 4pm in Dundarave Park
RoyalTea-by-the-Sea ~~ See http://www.royaltea.ca/ ph 922 4400;
reservations@RoyalTea.ca
+++ WV MEMORIAL LIBRARY
+++
www.westvanlibrary.ca/event/calendar.php
The Library is closed Sundays in July and August.
Mon
- Thurs 10am - 9pm; Fri - 10am - 6pm; Saturday
- 10am - 5pm
*** MASTER OF THE
INSTANT ~~ to August 28
Cartier-Bresson
Photographs from the National Gallery of Canada & Lionel Thomas -
Abstractions 1949 - 1990
[July10 home tour was in WVM Update]
North Shore Artists' Guild "paints" ~~ July 11 to
25 -- Mixed Media Exhibition
Artists in Attendance: Sat July 17 at
2pm
*** Salsa by the Sea is every Thursday 6:30 - 8:30 until
August 26th.
At Ambleside Landing behind the Ferry Building
Gallery
All ages with all levels of dance experience are welcome!
$6 Drop-in Fee
* July 13 -
25
-- "Up Up
and Away"
Over 14 professional Lower
Mainland artists generate dozens of new works related to astronomy and
the space theme. Various media will include acrylic, oils, pastels,
watercolour, graphite, and/or textiles, exploring the territory where
science and art overlap -- depicting scenes which are at present
beyond the range of human eyes, they communicate a binding dream of
adventure and exploration!
* July 27 -
August 8
-- Trioscapes
in Harmony
During the Harmony Arts Festival the Silk Purse finds friendship and
community front and centre as three artists: Betty Ditters, Sachiyo Grossmann, and
Jean Vanderley exhibit
their "Trioscapes". Each artist has a unique interpretation
of the landscape. Although there are often discussions between the
three as they critique designs and exchange ideas. These artists
assist and inspire on another!
Opening
Reception: WEDNESDAY July 28th from 6 - 9pm
+++ KAY MEEK CENTRE
+++
Complete list of events: http://kaymeekcentre.com/on_stage/events_calendar
Electronic newsletter: http://kaymeekcentre.weebly.com
Simplest way to get on email list, call
913 3634 or email tickets@kaymeekcentre.com
+++ ROYAL CANADIAN LEGION BRANCH 60, West
Vancouver +++
=== CULTUREWATCH
===
*
THEATRE
TERRIFIC SEASON -- MAKE
SURE YOU SEE ALL FOUR! TWO HUMOROUS, TWO DRAMAS
- Much Ado About Nothing
-- fun with a touch of flamenco in Dean Paul Gibson's production.
John Murphy's timing is so good and funny (reminds me a bit of John
Cleese), and Jennifer Lines is suitably adamant against marriage as
well.
- Antony and
Cleopatra is an absolute tour de force! Gripping.
Jennifer Lines is brilliant, Andrew Wheeler tortured by choices, Simon
Bradbury dramatic (after clowning in Ado). Clean, clear
direction by Scott Bellis.
- FALSTAFF (Henry IV, Parts I
and II)
He's a rogue, but you can't help but
love him! He's Shakespeare's most endearing and brilliant comedic
scoundrel -- FALSTAFF. Bard's
exciting new adaptation, which distils the essential Falstaff story
from Shakespeare's Henry IV, Parts I&II.
Dean Paul Gibson is the rotund rogue
and it's simply a tour de force; Alessandro Juliani is moving as
Prince Hal in transition; and Rob Frazer, the hunk as Hotspur
(Hotpants in the Chippendale -- that's unfair b/c I happen to think
he's a great actor too). Opening Night (Wed Jul 6) got a
standing noisy ovation. There's an incredible sequence with
emotions going from fierce fighting to death to farce.
- Henry V opened
July 18 -- compelling performance by Alessandro Juliani. He was
the son of Henry IV in Falstaff and now is King. It's
Shakespeare's sixth longest play.
+ Arts Club (tel 687
1644)
The 25th Annual Putnam County
Spelling Bee by William Finn, Granville Island Stage held over
to Aug 21
+ Jericho Arts
Centre
-- Twelfth
Night by William Shakespeare, directed by Tariq Leslie, July 2 - 24
Wed through Sun 8 pm; Tickets $15 -
$20;
www.williamshakespearestwelfthnight.com
Wednesdays
Pay-What-You-Will; For reservations or call 604 224 8007, ext.
3
+ Dr Sun Yat Sen Classical
Chinese Garden - 662 3207
China Tea
Deal presented by Seven Tyrants Theatre, 7:30pm June 19 - Aug
29
+ Metro
Theatre tel 266 7191
Twentieth Century by Ken Ludwig to July 17
+ Waterfront
Theatre tel 685 1731
The rock musical Hair, July 21 to Aug
1st;
+ Theatre Under the Stars
(TUTS)
-- to Aug 20. Joseph and
the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat and Singin' in the
Rain; ph 734-1917
* MUSIC
Vancouver Early Music Festival starts July 25:
http://www.earlymusic.bc.ca/
* ART
+ Vancouver Art Gallery --
JUNE 5 - SEPTEMBER 6
THE MODERN WOMAN:
Drawings by DEGAS, RENOIR, TOULOUSE-LAUTREC, and other masterpieces
from the Musee d'Orsay. Tel 662 4700; visit http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/
*
PHOTOGRAPHY --
CAG: Fall Exhibitions
Caroun Art Gallery is going to
announce the exhibitions, which will be held before November 2010, in
Canadian Gallery Magazines and Preview (The Gallery Guide) before July
22. Artists, who wants to have an exhibition in September and
October 2010, need to register before July 25.
Masoud Soheili, Caroun Art Gallery
(CAG), www.Caroun.net
=== CCL MTG NOTES July
5th ===
6pm in MHall Main Floor Conference Room; 7pm
ccl mtg in chamber
Note: At 6pm the reg
Cci Mtg will commence in open session and will be immediately followed
by a motion to exclude the public in order to hold a closed session,
pursuant to section 90 of the Cmnty Charter.
6:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER OPEN SESSION
2.
EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC
RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, members
of the public be excluded from part of the July 5 reg Ccl Mtg on the
basis of matters to be considered under the following section of
the Community Charter:
90. (1) A part of a ccl mtg may be closed
to the public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is
one or more of the following:
b. personal information about an
identifiable individual who is being considered for a municipal award
or honour, or who has offered to provide a gift to the municipality on
condition of anonymity;
c. labour relations or other
employee relations;
d. the security of the
property of the municipality;
g. litigation or potential
litigation affecting the municipality;
i. the receipt of advice
that is subject to solicitor-client privilege, including
communications necessary for that purpose;
(k) negotiations and related discussions
respecting the proposed provision of a municipal service that are at
their preliminary stages and that, in the view of the council, could
reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality if
they were held in public.
3. Council will then proceed with the closed session. At
its conclusion, the ccl mtg follows.
7:00 PM
4. RECONVENE OPEN SESSION
Mayor: an announcement: our Annual Report is available at M Hall
and on the District's website, and will be considered at Ccl's July
19th mtg. I'll ask Cclr Walker for a motion to that effect.
{SW makes motion for consideration of the Annual Report with
submissions and questions from the public}
5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA -- done
REPORTS
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. the report dated June 29, 2010 titled
"Results of Community Consultation Process: Proposal to Permit Dogs
On-Leash on the Seawalk" be received for information;
and
2. based on the results of the public
consultation, no changes be made to the Animal Control Bylaw from 13th
Street west to Dundarave Park;
3. Council direct Staff to bring forward
an amendment to the Animal Control Bylaw to allow dogs to be on leash
along designated routes through Ambleside Park set out in the report
dated June 29, 2010 from the Senior Manager of Parks and as indicated
in the map attached to the report as Appendix A;
4. that appropriate signage be erected to
clearly identify the areas where dogs on-leash and off-leash are
permitted in Ambleside Park and along the Seawalk and that an
appropriate communication strategy be undertaken.
Mayor: before we start want to thank everybody for full
participation; a lot of public input; obviously a lot of passion; hope
we can have a really good conversation -- passionate, matters to
everybody; know how much we value our individ resp and our shared resp
to figure this out for the benefit of the whole cmnty.
AMooi: report includes feedback from consultation.
Andrew Banks, Parks Mgr: brief presentation on results
Seawalk, walkway from 25th east to Sq Nations, off-leash
park
[SLIDES, MAP]
Dundarave -- Centennial seawalk from 24th to 18th
orange line is leash route and blue is the dog walk
enter onto Argyle on 18th, stay on Argyle, a leash-dog route to
Ambleside Park
Amb Park divided into Spirit Trail (leash-dog route) to dog
off-leash area; I have a proposed route behind the concession area and
behind the playground area to the Amb off-leash area/Sq Nations
consultation process enthusiastic
[SLIDE with TABLE or results]
Online Questionnaire 2,343 responses; handwrittten 6;
letters/emails 143; phone calls 187; onsite questionnaires 838; onsite
followup comment forms 3
total input: 3,520
Overall Summary: approx half support and half oppose dogs on
the seawalk
90% of emails and letters oppose
84% of the phone calls oppose
62% of the 838 onsite surveys oppose
online questionnaire ... Key themes
for those in favour: walking dogs promotes healthy life
style/cmnty; safety for women; public spaces shd be shared by all;
dogs shd be permitted as they are in other cmnties
for those opposed: seawalk is too crowded; hazardous to the
elderly and small chn; irresponsible owners, out-of-control dogs and
waste; lots of other areas for dogs on the NSh
After viewing the cmnty input, recommendations made, no changes
to animal control bylaw west of 13th...
{see motions above}
suggest DWV produce leaflets and pamphlets; education; confusion
wrt signage
Next steps
overriding response: District has to enhance communication;
improved signage for clarity; improved enforcement; consider input for
consideration by Parks Master Plan WG
Mary Charette: dog and non-dog owners have something in common,
live together, and deserve respect
from letters appears ppl do not understand why we're doing
this
seawalk confusing dogs and no dogs
off-leash dogs can run out of one of the eight openings and one
old woman broken wrist b/c dog jumped at her; five have run onto
railway tracks 7:13
'dogs use at their own risk sign' but dogs can't read
seeking soln acceptable to all
David Adams: in WV for over 50 years, enjoyed it ever since
created
three things I particularly valued about WV: small town
atmosphere, second access to the sea (long been a boater but now I sit
there and admire); thirdly to share views with you face to face, over
the telephone, or in this Chamber
old 20th century saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it
the response before you in that report emphatically says to you,
the cmnty as a whole notwithstanding 500, leave it to be enjoyed by
ppl on their feet
pleased to see Parks Dept sees that and now accepts that
leave it alone
only thing that concerns me, ends up by talking about
balance
maybe he's still prepared to review this one more time
imp you see these numbers
90% of those who wrote letters opposed, 85% who phoned were
opposed
one ref in the consultant's report, not referred to in the Mgr's
report, consulting firm put numbers together, caution by Nancy Spooner
-- ppl who are computer savvy cd make representation more than once so
if you see many, cd be xxx
Mayor: just about able to wrap up your comments?
DA: one constructive
helpful to dog owners instead of spending more money for a
consultant put gates on those openings
distraught owners, at every opening, then everyone can
relax
I'm confident you well recogn, whereas this pressure group speaks
for 500 ppl you speak for more than 44K
emphatically, don't spend any more money, except staff, clearly
leave seawall as it is
confident you will not let the seawall go to the dogs.
Cathy Gunn: just want to say, as a dog owner, and a responsible
dog owner, I don't want anyone's access to be impeded
unfortunate that a pilot project is not allowed, whether two
hours when we come home for work, go for a walk with our
husbands
concrete info to proceed with
Elizabeth deYoung: all enjoy WV is not blinded by lights, not
allowed on seawall, where can I walk my dog safely at night?
PJ Persons (?): lived in WV 35 years, but never at Hall
before
number of ppl in survey, it was easy to override and vote more
than once
survey not statistically proper; only one course at Cap 100
years; ways to do that, random
representing 40K, 500 using computer
don't think we have an idea from that survey about using or not
using seawall
no prob seawall with dog
called, told daytime b/c coyotes at night time and my little dog
is dinner
horrified looking out my window seeing train coming down track,
dog frozen in horror, she ran out and grabbed collar just as train
passed
dos on-leash same danger
same with John Lawson
my dog wants to join with picnickers no matter wch side
nearly got someone's lunch
certainly see plenty of poop on the dog walk
more money for someone to pick up b/c we can't pick up on the dog
walk
have a decent survey, walk at night, or fence so dogs can't get
on tracks
dogs crawl under the fence, mine does all the time
don't need someone down there, walkers all say, your dogs not
supposed to be there
Wayne Dowler (sp?): Westport 40 years; definitely opposed to dogs
on the seawalk
signage prob; start from west and work my way east along the
seawall
signs are up and they are in violation of the existing bylaw --
says no
sign: barring dogs going any further into Dundarave Park
DPark has a min of 12 signs, no, and then at end sign says dog
must be leashed on the seawall 24th?
to 19th cd keep walking with no signs to 18th, so sign shd be put
up there
3rd, at 18th signage v good, no dogs allowed
some concerns with the report, major, first report, apr 15;
cleared up on June 29 report
concerns re area referred to as "new waterfront pathway from
JLawson Park east to 15th" wondering where the start and finish
of John Lawson Park is
look at map, looks 18th St to don't know
house just came down, adding to JL Park? don't know
boundaries
no change to bylaws for whole area 13th to Dund
Mayor: that's the recommendation
WD: have more
Mayor: go through list and come back
WD: works for me
Alexandra Steele: long-term resident; agree 100% with what the
two gentlemen said
ev in my area all agree, dogs have rights to all the streets in
all NSh
so full, don't want on sea wall; some afraid, some allergic
dogs don't need the view, have many places
JLPark says dogs not allowed but always dogs there signs small
and ppl don't believe it
Harmony Arts, dogs there, can't move; patrol during that
festival
what's the point of a bylaw if no penalties
if fines you'd make thousands and thousands of dollars
is there a new route where the soccer field is?
A Banks Parks staff: proposing to use the existing sidewalk east
of 13th north of concession; small pathway to join up sea walk east of
the concession area
AS: not where sandy beaches? good
last, if this referendum, do not bring up
dog group gets louder and louder; give an inch they take mile,
bigger and bigger
seawall for the ppl, the ppl need the view
Bill Reid: have two dogs so put me in that column
some controversy a couple of years ago b/c washroom not
accessible so a woman wd not be able to visit washroom without tying
up the dog and walking ....
know two of those re train tracks, it's not safe and shdn't be
permitted
dog has cognitive ability of a two-year-old and wdn't put a child
near
seemed evenly split, so tough, so hope look for some compromises
time of today, time of week
says in reports balancing of ...
pretty well-educated so can...
greater focus on education, sign, and enforcement
as for enforcement, don't feel included in that remark
pretty divided opinion, hope some compromise
Simon Lucas: Tower Hill; congratulating you on the report of 26th
not allowing it to pass without proper public consultation; in fact
quite alarmed when I heard some of the comments at the last mtg that
this shd just be allowed to pass; clearly not the case, so
congratulations to all of you for stopping and allowing process to
proceed democratically as it shd
some comments on the statistical survey, or rather the
non-statistical survey questionnaire; have some professional
qualifications in this area; and I'd like to make v clear that the
earlier comments around the lack of statistical viability for the
questionnaire are absolutely true.
it is not statistically valid, I repeat not statistically
valid
there are many ways that survey can be padded or distorted,
and if indeed, as one of the earlier speakers pointed out, you wanted
to get a good clear idea of what the right numbers are, then you wd
need to do a scientific, methodologically structured, study.
One of the things that in fact you shd be concerned about is
that the ratios in that survey are v different from the ratios you see
in the phone calls and in the letters, thus indicating there is some
significant difference in what's going on.
so interpret that with great caution
My second round of comments, I'd like to address the proposal
actually itself
one of the things that struck me in the questionnaires and the
letters was in fact the depth of feeling that came out in a number of
comments
a little surprised to see so few comments in favour of this
proposal given the strength of the lobby group referred to
that perhaps is illustrative of the depth of feeling that exists
and the reasons ppl gave for opposing this particular idea
summarize briefly
comments v v consistent: hygiene, congestion, public safety, lack
of enforcement, potential thin end of the wedge; if dogs then why not
bicyclists, skateboarders
if apply consistent philosophy for the sea walk, shd consider
this in broader context of other users who have legitimate claims to
that particular piece of real estate.
also struck by number of other ppl who commented around why
bother b/c no one takes any notice anyway
I'll return to that theme in a minute
Mayor: quickly
SL: as I look at comments, cd not help conclude some v clear and
good reasons to view the Centennial sea walk as a rather unique
environment; jewel of WV's crown, had this approach v successfully
implemented for many years; clearly something ppl feel v strongly
about preserving for ppl to go without not necessarily being bothered
about dogs wch they may be afraid of or allergic to,...
Mayor: concluding remarks?
SL: this also brought up a much bigger issue
you have a lot of bylaws, supposed to restrict dog access, be it
leashed or unleashed
you have signs that are supposed to inform ppl, and while many v
resp dog owners who wd make sure they adhered to these regulations if
they knew about them, the reality is there are also many irresponsible
dog owners, and many many comments in the questionnaires refer to
this
if Ccl were to go ahead and allow more dog access, essential
you put in place a decent enforcement prog
well-intentioned as many dog owners may be, others are not, and
simply will not adhere without enforcement
thank you
Linda Watt: what we forgot to do, when handing in petition, has
1000 names of dog owners
v contentious issue; resident for 37 years, young when I came
here, soon to be a senior in Amb/Dund, and hope to live here for
another 20 years as does Cclr Sop
hope to have a small dog
like to walk my dog unleashed at certain time periods on the
seawall, really like to see time periods, not all the time
on Cmnty Day, booth about dogs, on-leash, under control, and
picked-up-after
fun day; opp to meet many dog and non-dogowners; great
discussions about a possible pilot proj for on-leash dogwalking on the
seawall
three topics always mentioned: agreed by all that the major
prob areas are unpickedup dog faeces, off-leash dogs in on-leash
areas, and bylaw and enforcement issues
no visible bylaw presence on the seawall
ppl quite like seeing park rangers in summer; leaves nine months
when a few irresponsible dogowners simply do what they want
nice to see a more consistent approach; perhaps bylaw ofcrs
walking xxx areas ev day
is it possible to have an independent third-party review of this
issue?
Some of us also attended the WVM mtg hosted by Carolanne
Reynolds at the Library and heard an excellent presentation by Mr Fung
on the infrastructure where we had the opp to listen to a pleasant and
informative talk with Cclr Sop and Cclr Lewis
Cclr Sop then mentioned that the First Nations ppl wd be
building a condo devt behind the Park Royal shopping ctr.
Then the lights went out and we were left in the dark and had
to leave.
Cclr Sop, when this devt occurs will the off-leash dog park
still exist?
and if not, is there a contingency plan?
I think a 1000 signed petition compared with phone calls says
quite a lot about our, we want to be accepted in the cmnty, and
included in the cmnty.
thank you
Rebecca Black: owner of two dogs
disappoints me a little was that the survey you did was
flawed
not effective tool in the cmnty looking for a solution in our
cmnty
my understanding, we're all about inclusion, not exclusion
by drawing lines in the sand, xxx
dogs come up, ppl separated
a couple of years some concessions granted from 13th to dog park
in Amb and appears that will be taken away, seawall walk; works quite
nicely most of the year
no one on the beach nine months of the year; v gd work
most of the time by dogwalkers
asked for a trial period
if you don't want to come to this again
popn of dogs is growing in leaps and bounds; not like 20 years
ago
ask you to use good judgement, take your time, not a compromise
but a good soln that includes everyone
Jenn ?: in support of the Parks staff's proposal not to change
the sea walk bylaw
since the Apr proposal there have been changes
dogwalkers with leash dogs, more common
{from gallery: TRUE}
walking, have to keep eyes down to avoid stepping in, never been
my experience
assaulted verbally by dogwalkers CERTAIN they are allowed to be
there
respectfully suggest proper signage, not reverse
need to include park wardens daily patrolling the next few moths
at east to inform
misinformation, wd like it to be a way and acting that way
wd like to see a face to face with a park warden, I don't want
to be on the front line
reluctant to take a walk
conflict and tension between ppl, truth is it's really
crowded
can't see how enforcing a certain time period wd work
the Apr proposal, unleashed -- take steps to restore peace
John Lane: live in WV, for 19 years
opposed to dogs on sea walk, in favour of current proposals of
Parks
a jewel, pls don't change it
three points: many uncomfortable frail or fearful -- even with
boisterous dogs on leash
jogs, difficult to dodge a dog; difficult to jump over
leash
even when owners pick up there's always residue
clean unspoiled pedestrian walkway, it's working
Patricia Mear-Henderson: sorry didn't expect to come up so
quickly
{handing over something ?}
Mayor: address Ccl
PM-H: am going to go back
you've seen what's in my life now
I grew up here as did my parents and grandparents
Sentinel, our motto, make the world a better place
Langley in acreage, 30 years; married to a senior
Mayor: helpful to take the seat
PM-H: never been here, maybe shd be a preacher
three years ago, adopted small dogs; had a reason for getting
out
if you've suffered from depression, arthritis, xxx, and this
morning, lupus
I'm going to be 57 next month not expected this
Mandela [said] the biggest weapon you can wield is
forgiveness
went to xxx
sentence out of Lord's Prayer
all of us are going to stumble, my dogs too ...
so xxx ... 25th and Lawson
so lucky walk out door, talk; can't tell me how many make eye
contact with me
elderly ppl; my husband was a senior
as a widow, you can go months without a hug xxx ...
just want to walk past you for a few seconds, not xxx
on leash, go a lot ev day; 4:30 yesterday, Sun, cd hv shot a
cannon
2:30 Sat, where are the hordes?
been 10 o'clock at night
not pleasant to meet curmudgeonly
widow
are they real dogs?
we had St Bernards when my husband...
[walks about and demonstrates]
walk like this; walk and smile
sorry
was educated in Britain after high school
hope we can all get along; surely, erudite, there's a way
don't want to change your life
thx much. God Bless
Mayor: no one else one to come back?
Wayne ?: assume John Lawson Park starts at 18th St
looks like JLPark's been extended and no dogs allowed
to Millennium Park, no idea status of dogs
Mayor: rec no, on-leash on Argyle
Wayne ?: as far as Amb right now two signs, say you can walk dogs
from 13th to leash area
contrary to bylaw
N side of concession stands; far east end, same proposal as 2007
as an interim measure, then let go
signs are still there, will have to be removed
as far as off-leash area, serious concerns; my wife had an
incident with a dog some years ago and still going to physio
Mayor: others want to speak
Wayne ?: worried about legal aspect in unregulated area,
supposedly no jurisdiction but signs there
got a letter WV no jurisdiction, bylaws do not apply
yet we're allowing ppl to go into that area
sure we'd have an assumed liability
within the area, signs quoting the WV bylaws inside the Indian
Reservation? area
? Sheppard: Chairlift, an on-and-off resident for 60 years
prior to this not so many signs or so any with so many
probs
dogwalker daily at Amb Park, to Sq Reserve, walk there quite
often
no problem, dogs don't go on the beach, stay on path
go to free leash area; leave it as.......; leave seawall
Mayor: that's the recommendation
dogs on leash on Amb, sensible path
? Sheppard: saying don't need
no faeces on it; my dogs love it and chn love them
passing
Mayor: not
? Sh: some of us in our old age, re survey; a lot of us computer
literate
believe there's still honour in this world and don't think
ppl say obnoxious dogs and I'd say obnoxious ppl
Mayor: shall we go through each rec?
1 - rec'd = PASSED
2 - no change
Sop: know there's a lot of emotion; feel we shd be putting dog
owners and ppl
we all love dogs; there's a plea out there
when I look at the seawall, succeeded through six mayors
fenced area where dogs can walk beside hours
with thousands and thousands of ppl over years, not that many
ppl
when last had a review of the dogs, some difficult areas -- maybe
lack of edu, as dog number increases, make some changes, off
leash
we've progressed since then
new in Amb Park, we're progressing in time, desire to add as we
go along
majority of time I've walked seawall, I've failed to see why
prob if dogs behind fence -- and suddenly all these probs, not
seen
leave for ppl, growing passion (had a lab, great to me; walked
and enjoyed); places for people to work with dogs, they're not
without, the dogs are behind the fence
gates maybe or whatever
shd be a space for ppl without dogs
think this is a good compromise
Ev: looked at report in great detail
surprise staff didn't propose any alternatives
we've discussed, one option between 19th and 24th from dawn to
9am, from 7pm to nightfall
exercised in many jurisdictions
Mayor: wd you like to ask Mr Banks why not a trial?
Ev: yes
Andrew Banks: was made, question was ability to enforce,
lacking
Mayor: another question?
Ev: ev bylaw we have has to be enforced no matter what time of
day or night
find that a strange reason why not to look at that as an
option
combine that with a trial period; don't know it's going to work
until had that option
another, mentioned by a number of ppl, ladies in the evening
being able to walk in the evening with some comfort and safety
cd if on section 19th to 24th -- that's a question as well
AB: repeat the question
Mayor: cd I? Perhaps another rationale, safety for
women
AB: opening up the Spirit Trail will address that, that allows
dogs, will open in May [?]
ML: Cclr Ev must have been at a diff mtg b/c on 26th suggestion
for hours but Ccl said didn't have enough info
basically not obvious any need; have nothing to xxx ....
"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Marine Dr xxx all the way to xxx lights and can walk
v much in favour of recommendation in bullet 2
TP: when I decided to run for Ccl ppl warned me about dogs and
trees; challenging
in US 75M dogs as pets, we're becoming more urban
trying to find that fine balance
do know that pets add to vitality; respond well to pets in
cmnty
also want to thank the WV Dog Assn b/c takes courage to bring
this forward
know intent is to come up with a better solns
we are trying; not the one everybody wd wish for
am going to support the second rec, but wd like to discuss in 3rd
and 4th, possibility for options
SW: someone initially excited about dogs in
have new puggle 16 weeks old
also do app the massive sentiment that have come forward
ppl and stroller only; a couple of good recommendations
the gates, I do know some who have been run over when dogs run
out to meet owners
perhaps opp to put a fence on the north side, to protect them
from the trains
if you have a younger dog, quite frightening, discussing
will support this as well, but solns for making dog owners feel
safer about their dogs
Mayor: Ccl Sop wishes to speak again, but Cclr Smith, care to
weigh in?
MS: happy if Cclr Sop goes first, and then I'll weigh in
Sop: couple of comments on the humorous side
the lady that walked by me called me a grumpy old man --
actually, I'm quite a delight
{laughter}
Mayor: xxx seems to be working for you!
Sop: and I like dogs too, and I have an 11-year-old son, so I'm
right in the mix
the other lady, on the thoughts of the Squamish lands, we don't
have control over that but I think Ccl now and in the future wd try
preserve that area, as you see, interplay down there. quite special;
that's all; going to support it
MS: the prob has never been dogs, it's dog owners, and of
the dog owners, it's the 2%
it's lowlifes who think the laws don't apply to them; too bad 2%
spoil it for 100%
I was on the seawall about a month ago in the evening -- btw I
don't think it's fair to imply 19th to 24th only safe area for women,
I resent that
Anyway, my story,
There was a lady, walking two dogs, not on-leash, about 9
o'clock at night, and the dogs tripped up a couple of joggers, and I
said, in my good civic duty voice: "you realize that you're
really not supposed to be here with those dogs, and secondly, they shd
be at the very least under you care and control" whereupon she
proceeded to tell me to "F off."
at least if it had been a man I cd have smacked him
{laughter}
the reality is, in a civilized place like WV you'd think we'd be
able to come up with a, as some of the ppl have said, a pilot
project that allows, on a trial basis, dogs to walk on leash after 6
or 7 o'clock in the evening or early in the morning, whenever, pick a
time, and it wd work well.
the reality is, we're not comfortable enough that we think we
can do that, and when you're dealing with that sea walk, that's our
best, by far, cmnty recreational asset.
The only way I think this Ccl can make changes to the sea wall
is that if there was broad public consensus to make a change; and here
by our own survey, it's split right down the middle, so clearly
there's no consensus
So I think that the prevailing wisdom when no consensus is we
have to leave the current status quo in place even though I realize
that punishes responsible dog owners who cd v comfortably walk their
dogs on that sea wall and not cause any problems
Ev: I was going to make a friendly amendment; wd like to have
seen this Ccl to engage in a trial period
Mayor: wd you like to make that amendment?
Ev: I think I can prejudge; I'm going to decline
Mayor: I'm going to support and hope staff will take note
signs not consistent, if clear xxx
nobody minds enforcement if clear what right to do
fence, a lot choose not to use it
public health, excrement behind the fence
lot of work to do; improve that part; in subseq motions, say what
we are going to try.
Sop moved No 3: xxx to the west of the welcome fig
other route down.... Argyle; other all the way down Pound
Road
some said down 13th to off-leash area
last time we were going to have signage did we have?
Mooi: can't speak to past but have noticed signs not
consistent and we will address that
Sop: have there been major incidents?
Mooi: Ms Holitzki, bylaw ofcr
Holitzki: major incidents?
Sop: if signs wrong, and used, so
chn playing was there excrement and urine all over the place?
what took place?
Holitzki: was a child bit[ten]
otherwise bylaw dept complaints about excrement, xxx
lifeguards phone re dogs on beach, and when asked to move they
wdn't so we had to go down
don't have numbers
Sop: will new route stop dogs going into play area
lady using washroom, wd that be an exempt area?
Hol: that's what this new pathway; about dogs breaking free
to date haven't had, last year, no complaints about use of Women
washroom
in past complaints about dogs taken inside the washroom
I'm going to support but if a lady tied her dog up and went to
washroom, wd she get a ticket?
Holitzki: each one diff; can't say absolutely not
Sop: hope not even considered
Holitzki: mine too
Mayor: what's workable?
SW: imp dogs can walk to reach the dog area rather than drive
down
TP: no 3 makes complete sense; really imp to be consistent with
edu and enforcement
if we're going to have a bylaw that's effective have ppl out and
make sure consistent
good having a park ranger this year
all about managing it and coming up with solns; have to have that
piece in place
CARRIED
Mayor: lastly
Sop moved No 4: been comments that staff shd report back to us re
enforcement
Mr Banks is new but he's diligent and he'll make sure those signs
are in place
safety on the seawall, still having the dog walking behind that
fence, have another fence or gates
hope will come from this but don't think it needs a motion
Mayor: no, I don't think so
Ev: what's most important is signage and enforcement
but the fence, important repair; shd have a gate so dog can
talk from one end to another but a gate to see; fence
important
TP: one more comment; know the next steps moving us into the
Parks Master Plan
there are confusing parts to this bylaw; in West, can't walk past
a cmnty ctr without contravening a bylaw
other parts, hope address by the Parks WG
Mayor: consensus about faeces removal, signage,
ranger
so staff report so can be made better for ev
final word:
Sop: hope I'm here for another ten or 20 years
Mayor: that's what she meant
Sop: places to go, places for dogs, bikes, skate boards
what a place
PASSED
RECOMMENDED: be added to the WV Community Heritage
Register, pursuant to Section 954 of the LGA
SMik: SLIDES in June 2006 Ccl adopted the Heritage Plan; Register
established in 2007
May 171 nominations; Ccl has listed 39 resources
June 2009, conservation incentives est'd
expectation benefit, ongoing xxx ... eligible for future
voluntary process; staff will not be bringing anything forth
without the owner
Young House: built 1914, new owners planning to restore
original features
one of the oldest houses in WV and remaining in lower
Dund
5616 Westport: a midcentury house built by architect Peter
Kaffka
missed in inventory, hard to see from windshield survey
nominated by owners themselves; eligible for addn to the
Register
owners have undertaken restoration work, interested in exploring
xxx, retention and incentives
MS moved
Mayor: definitely something to celebrate -- were you going to say
something?
MS: no, just going to vote
Mayor: in favour?
[CARRIES]
MS: want to add that as usual Mr Mikicich did a first class job
with his report and his v succinct presentation tonight covered
everything
Mayor: good to see the continued success of the work of that WG
and our commitment to heritage
{Yes, Your Scribe was on the Heritage WG and do hope one is
reinstated soon! great group!}
This bylaw received first reading at the June 7, 2010 regular
Council Meeting and was the subject of a Public Hearing which closed
on June 28, 2010.
RECOMMENDED: be read a second and third time.
Mayor: anything to add?
Sokol: no
MClk: give steps
[Ev moved]
Mayor: seconder?
Ev: we've had a lot of discussion; in previous discussion v much
in favour and still am
if we don't, we deny all the opps in the next sev years; a great
pity
have invested so much human capital in work done to date
this really is the cornerstone of the progs we've
anticipated
we've put forward as a pro-active Ccl, going to give us the opp
to explore opps in the future.
SW: supporting this as well, culmination of two WGs, and probably
before that as well
imp support WGs and staff work getting pilot projs off the
ground
ML: I remain a little bit torn by this
being presented almost as an administrative requirement so we cd
go forward with housing pilots and Mr Sokol said that an no reason to
doubt that
can you articulate the process come to Ccl, set parameters
specifically we have not articulated nbrhd character and if we go
forward we must xxx
want to be sure we're not opening a Pandora's Box allowing
anything anywhere
xxx
Sokol: best is to go back
initial call for projects, ppl submitted proposals; WG; what was
left on the list
those reviewed, then staff brought forward recs; two brought
forward
staff have worked on
v public process; see no reason why, uh, in 3.1.B wd involve
selection, following an open selection process; part of that wd be
coming to Ccl to get bylaw changes
prior approval of Ccl
wrt nbrhd character, one been using looking at character
immediately adjacent
working with some of the nbrs
how does it meet, not meet criteria
ML: zoning bylaws, on proj-by-proj basis or apply to all parts of
District
Sokol: proj by proj; have one and whether to go forward
ML: what wd preclude an indiv being a proposal to develop their
own lot
what wd stop me from saying I'd like to build a carriage
house
Sokol: ppl can always come forward
staff look and see if in compliance and see if can go forward
for Ccl consideration if rezoning required
ML: I cd do this; but wd have to go through the process
Sokol: need to go through a public process
ML: I was thinking of the non-pilot proj
Mayor: if you're looking at a diff form
ML: only one?
Sokol: if a pilot proj, this process, if not have to go through
OCP, Ccl decide if merit
ML: this wd not impact that process
Mayor: good questions
Sop: Questions along same line
in WG scenario, been v exicited, not on shelf
long hard job of WG re housing, well received
once Ccl, thank those folks, then ours
major steps since 1912 as to how this cmnty is going to look
xxx
{yup}
glaring questions for me down the road
first stages of amending the policy, housing, p47, replaced as a
consequence: opps for residential redevt in existing nbrhds
last para is deleted and replaced, recognizes certain opps for
xxx sites as set out in Policy 3, unique opps
by this addn and others; policy 4.1
is it your view by insertion of these statements, ev time in last
14 years, they can zero in on the OCP and it's like the rule, you
haven't been here v many years. It's in the plan therefore it's
safer.
are we obligated regardless if workable or not, inclusion right
to have infill housing in the five categories stated by the WG
without a PH on each and ev one of those issues
Mayor: take that?
Sokol: I think I have this one
OCP is v strict and explicit as to what type can be allowed in
residential areas in WV
changing to other zoning, Policy H3, strict policy
how
what this proposed bylaw amendment, is a slight change to the
OCP, limited on site by site basis, Ccl may allow something go ahead
other than a sgl-fam home in a sgl-fam nbrhd
Sop: second question
two pilot projs, one withdrawn, don't know about other
one
cmnty till when?
if someone says I've been selected and nbr says, no, I'm not
having that
how many times going to take
are we on the right track with this scenario?
Sokol: the current pilot proj prog
we've gone through on potential; had four
two -- one withdrawn, still working with other proponent
as those wrap up, staff may look at other two
again Ccl will be involved in working on this; will remain a
priority of staff as long as priority of Ccl
Sop: p 86 of the bylaw, adding 4.1, down to Item D: it states
it MAY include, doesn't leave me with any certainty, projects wch
require rezoning, devt permit, and/or variance permit, in wch the
approval process provided in the LGA shall apply and no amendment to
this OCP shall be required.
Can you explain that to me?
Sokol: once something is selected as a housing pilot proj, it
is covered under this blanket OCP amendment, so no add'l OCP amendment
wd be required, however that project may require rezoning or devt
permit or a DVP, and if it does it has to go through the processes
outlined in the LGA, and will need to go through the process in front
of Ccl wch typically requires either a formal PH or public
consultation. Again, the decision lies with Ccl.
Sop: I have seven or eight more questions; leave for the
time being
yesterday, went back to the two Kay Meek presentations
this is so important, xxx ... wrt the fear
what impact is this going to have in the future and I don't think
answered
left me in wonderment
you know me, I like to feel good xxx ...
Mayor: ccl procedure gives each mbr five min
Sop: I'm finished
TP: residents also suggested other opps such as encouraging
while serving as mortgage helpers for homeowners
see this as actually following through with what we did in
2004
gives us lots of opps, v cautious
in Seattle, over ten years only 15 {or was it ten in 15
years?}
Vancouver, laneway houses, but we're approaching in a diff
way
MS: I was originally v supportive
but one of the roles of this Ccl surely is to evaluate xxx and
staff time
we've committed to this, been huge, we don't have a plot proj
moving to the next stage
all of that staff time; we have to eval if proceeding on right
course
if this is successful, we've got a serious issue
NOT????
think ev favours innovative creative soln to housing mix and
ev support nbrhd character
think we need a road map
what we're doing now, looking at, blunt
passed the sec ste, makes sense, the ste cd be above the garage,
that wd be a perfect pilot proj
suggest we start with our own land; create some of these on
our own land
30th and Park Lane, suited to a garage, ste above, house
further down the lot
advantage of our own land, all advantage goes to us
reluctant to speak against
got to have a staff report showing how to move this
ahead
otherwise, a lot of staff time, bogged down b/c not nbrhd
support
bothers me to be negative xxx
need a road map to move this forward
Mayor: that might be a follow-up motion
even if you're talking about our prop, you'd want it in our OCP
to move forward
on behalf of cmnty we're xxx
Vancouver blanket not xxx; we 're different
Cclr Sop, it's a xxx
if Seattle done ten in 15 years, guarantee WV will be
slower
whole process been designed for criteria; submit yourself and
to public
legalizing sec stes has been on ev Ccl I've been on; first no,
second pause, and now xxx
you mention KMC, spent ten years searching for a
site
may be that we won't have a successful one xxx
our xxx
and particularly Cclr Sop, sorry, Cclr Smith
we cd create this opp for ourselves
in support, take seriously sense of caution and that's why
good policy
Sop: respect what you said; not satisfied;
deferral
Mayor: no seconder
Sop: losing my touch
PASSED
Sop opposed, saying not enough
MS: uh, staff report, or refer, not sure how to do this; guess
that WG is not sitting
Mayor: status report on the pilot project including opps for
us to bring forward municipally-held land as a pilot
MS moved amendment: yes, that's my motion. If we do
start with our own land then I think it's going to alleviate a lot of
Ccl Sop's concerns
Mayor: seconder
Sop: second, may I comment?
Mayor: did you wish to say anything further?
MS: I've babbled long enough
Sop: perhaps with unanswered questions for me, looking at our own
lands to do this, might be the valuable choice in the future
but with the passing of this OCP, if we chose and we decide
better on if our own land, then we don't need the OCP amendment
Mayor: yes, I believe we wd; we're bound by own laws
Sop: not without discussion; you don't know that for sure
Mayor: I think I do
{ah, maybe it depends??? Remember the speaker who
complained that there was no sign in front of the boat ramp about
devt/change? Was told Ccl/District doesn't have to post sign of
changes.......}
Sop, amid laughter: I don't
Mayor: that's your problem
Sop: from what I'm reading here, it's seems entrenched and it
will go on its own merits right into the sunset
Mayor: let's see if Cclr Smith's motion will pass and we can dig
a little deeper
SW: by utilizing our own land, mean another devpr can come
in
MS: we cd be quasi-dvpr, project, staff, putting out to
tender
ML: v much support what Cclr Smith is proposing; many of the
concerns coming from public if we come back and xxx
these missing pieces are going to be the death of
this
Ev: happy to support if provide some clarity
but not all convinced as Cclr Walker said, doing on our own land
is not nec the right approach, still nbrhd chr and xxx not nec hopeful
that
I don't interrupt you
Sop: no I was
Ev: so
Mayor: xxx
Sop: one of my greatest fears, alternate choices for
housing
choices of ppl always going to ... end
triplexes stratified as a choice in this cmnty
it's about density and money
Mayor: question
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The report dated June 23, 2010 be received for information;
and
2. "Fees and Charges Amendment Bylaw" be read a first, second
and third time.
Sokol: no presentation
TP: compliance costs concern; lower fee for ppl who come
forward
so if you choose not to legalize your suite, what
consequences
more on utilities, more on xxx; more on taxes
comf with an annual fee like a biz fee, want to know the tipping
point
cost recovery with bylaw enforcement
Mayor: to what extent preventing ppl from registering their
stes
Sokol: this is the second, fee, initial inspection, low March to
Sept $250 for cost of staff insp and doing report, after Sept goes up
to $400
to date 81 stes applied, v slow at first
clarity of what fee will be
number waiting to when Sept 1st jump-up so some at that
time
TP: some flexibility? if compliance not coming, amend?
Sokol: when adoption of sec stes, you asked staff report on a
quarterly basis
June completed hope by end of July, if staff find ppl not
registering
ppl can then decide if adjust annual fee
Mayor: Can I go round the table?
Sop: did we not meet with you and come up with $350?
Sokol: $265 and $X and Ccl felt $350 balance; recovers some
costs and achieves some cmnty benefits; trying to balance those
factors
SW: support where Cclr Panz is coming from
can get financially prohibitive; right now experiencing increases
in our water utilities and as well our sewer and recycling
and in our prop taxes even if at zero per cent, the assessments
are still higher
when we're continually going out to the public applying these
fees, I certainly know with the fire inspection fees, as well, it
becomes onerous to run a biz, have a sec ste.
I v much in favour of cost recovery for the District
think we have to look at the triple net experience
what are we trying to achieve by licensing the sec stes?
trying to achieve a sense of safety, a sense of compliance, a
sense of monitoring, who's living in the District but I also think we
have to be cognizant of the financial burden that we place on the
residents.
If we don't have a better registration process by Sept, I do
think we have to settle that
Again, we approved, I don't know how many thousands of dollars of
new staff hire, I think over $100K, between a bylaw ofcr and an admin
assistant to support this prog
81 registrations doesn't cover the cost at all
we may have to look at the biz model and might be lower fee to
get higher compliance rate
Sokol: yes, we have brought on about one and a half staff to
manage the sec ste prog
we've been concentrating to date is getting prog up and running,
getting v clear checklists, getting info on web, advertising the prog
and I think we'll see the number of stes registered go up
at some point, based on these quarterly reports
at some point flipping going toward more enforcement
tracking craigslist, etc, biggest drain is questions on sec
stes
Mayor: just cognizant of the impact of this decision
hate to bring up oil tanks but we dropped them by $200 b/c want
taken out and raised cost of leaving them in; keep us informed
BYLAWS
adopted
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
12. Consent Agenda Items
RECOMMENDED: be approved
Mayor: anyone want to speak on that? Yes? so pulling out
2055 from the Consent Agenda
REPORTS FOR CONSENT AGENDA
RECOMMENDED: THAT the report
from the Sr Cmnty Planner dated June 18 be received for info.
Sop: for my own info -- is it going to be a way of soliciting
heritage houses by a gift of subdivision?
I look at this, I know the Toby house, I know the family, and I'm
really supportive of the heritage of that building, but I also see
another building there, the subdivision.
Is that going to be a recurrence of what we're going to expect ev
time there's a heritage bldg?
SMik: potentially b/c the objective of the H strategy is to
make H conservation an economically viable option to demolition and
replacement
This particular site cd accommodate a 13,200sf home; the
existing one is about 3200sf so without any provision in place that wd
make this viable, we wd be losing a lot of these bldgs
Ev: v much in favour
but akin to Ccl Smith said; someone has spent a lot of effort
thus far
hate that we staff and proponent believing
had a question -- do we charge the proponent a fee so
far?
SMik: yes this is a Devt Applic and they have paid a
fee
certainty, they have an application, process, wd be able to
subdivide the prop
13 steps we've identified
in terms of applicant's .... stage, prelim design, etc; we're at
stage 6
late Sept or early Oct for prelim review
Mayor: HRA, heritage; Ccl is really doing a good job
much of it is addressed, maintaining nbrhd character
14. REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS
Ev: opening of new art exhibit at Silk Purse
this had a diff flair, exhibition of caricatures
possible to go and see and know some of the ppl caricatured
I think you might know where I'm going -- three on NSh, wonderful
characters
refreshing able to go see an art exhibit
Ashfin xxx ... he took on a wonderful exhibition
encourage mbrs of public to go
ML: pleasure of representing, Ccl at Canada Day
good crowd, wonderful WV Youth Orchestra, formal leading into the
event
{isn't it the WV Youth Band?}
mbrs of the Legion; John Weston MP spoke and MEv on behalf of DWV
Ccl; tyvm
Mayor: thank you for filling in
Sop: concert was fantastic; leave the rest of you to
comment
Mayor: you were life of party!
Sop: no, you were!
{CORRESPONDENCE
ALERT!}
Sop: wd like to ask a question of Madam Clerk
see Correspondence on home page, and you said it wd be there for
a while
will it ever appear for the public to see it somewhere else that
is going to be fairly viable? is there a plan for that?
or is it going to stay somewhere, I don't know where things are
with it. Thank you.
{brave try, Sop! tyvm}
Mayor: I can answer that question b/c all four ways that the
MClerk outlined last week are in place, but the easiest way to look at
the Ccl Corresp is right on the front page of the webpage, under Your
Cmnty; it's right there. I think it needs to stay there b/c
things fall below.
Also, you can get there through Your Govt. You can also put
Ccl Corresp in the search bar, boom, it's right there.
There are about four ways in, and that was Ccl's direction
It's v straightforward, it's all there, it goes all the way back
to January
{straightforward? then later refers to somewhat buried
and three clicks???}
it's really a credit to this Ccl
I apologize for the fact that it seemed a little bit buried as
we were getting there, but Ms Scholes has done a first class job of
making sure it's there.
Sop: no question of that
{good answer, Sop. After saying a 'bit buried',
effectively cancelling straightforward.... but as Sop says, it's not a
question of "it's there" -- so is Everest -- it's a question
of WHERE, and that's continually sidestepped.
The double-speak continues below by then claiming it's
easier!
but in fact it isn't b/c Ccl has it with their ccl mtg
material and public/website hasn't.}
-- is the same that we, when we go and do our work on our
computer as we do, has the public got the same exact access... or do
they have to...?
Mayor: it's easier in a way. No, b/c it's right there under Your
Cmnty, Ccl Corresp. Right on the webpage.
Sop: It comes right up? soon as you click it it comes up for the
public?
Mayor: that's right. You shd check it out.
Sop: b/c I clicked on it today, and it still has the New
Correspondence thing; and I clicked on that and then I have to scroll
down and had to click on the bottom of the page.
Mayor: Well, that's just how a website works;
{Full marks, Sop continues. Failing grade, sorry to
say, with "that's how a website works", not true. A
webmaster can design for what is wanted, but does need directions to
do so to be sure.}
it doesn't go one click and you're at the Correspondence, but
it's pretty--
Sop: --if you click on the homepage; what I'm asking for the
public--
Mayor: --Yes--
Sop: --something else wd come up--
Mayor: --yup--
Sop: --then if they wd scroll where? to the bottom?
Mayor: it takes about three clicks: Ccl Corresp, Ccl Corresp, Ccl
Corresp
{ah, progress; she now has noticed that it's not
easy!}
wd be nice if it took wd take one click but I'm not the webmaster
and I'm not sure if that's possible.
{True, the Mayor is not the webmaster and the way to find out
if possible, if not sure, is to ask.}
Sop: on the
agenda?
Mayor: that's a separate
question
{and so the Mayor derails this
question, the actual restoration being requested. Made no sense
to remove it from the agenda -- no wonder done suddenly, with no
notice or discussion, and not even a motion at a public ccl mtg, ie
done behind closed doors.
No
wonder,
Probably realized there'd be
opposition if not outrage.}
let's ask Ms Scholes
MClk: we find the same thing, and we are investigating ways to
reduce the number of clicks it takes to get to the page,
{oh, good. A glimmer of light. Shd we offer to
help??? Given the salaries for last year just released one might
be shocked at this lack of competence, however this may instead be
lack of will.}
and what Cclr Sop is referring to, is it does go to the
explanatory page first and from that it takes you to the Ccl Corresp
page
{IOW roundabout; totally
unnecessary. In fact need not be anywhere else than on the
agenda.
At first I thought, when the Mayor
said we just had to scroll down when looking at the ccl mtg agenda,
that she was unaware the Correspondence was not there at all, not even
mentioned, but now -- unless this is rectified for the next ccl mtg --
maybe the Mayor's intention all along was not to have it on the
agenda. Surely if the Mayor said she wanted it on the agenda, it
wd be done. We know at least Cclrs Smith and Sop want it
returned. What's the holdup? Who are the feet
draggers?}
Mayor: Good. thank you
{oh, a swiftie. The Mayor has a
v gd memory. Hard to believe she forgot about Sop's query about
the agenda and Sop too polite to ask and speak again since the Mayor's
gone on to another topic. Awkward, hm?}
I wanted to just comment on Lilith
v fortunate where we cd host our WGs, donors, mixed bag; what
they have in common
thank you for mbrs of Ccl being there
didn't know each other
no real security issues -- maybe b/c it was about 70% women
transportation worked beautifully
68 youth volunteers; per diem
got to go to concern xxx ... great team effort
particular for Christy Rosta and X Bailey
22 xxx had ... to get to Oregon
paddling xxx; First Nations ppl
came to us from Indian Arm going to Musqueam next day
full of First Nations
our police chief paddle banging for being partly Mohawk; got big
round of applause
So -- two things, racing and xxx through Salish Sea as of July
15h
{Renaming}
15. PQP/COMMENTS
Mayor: any? I see none, then, oh you are
{three women got up; but I'd signed up}
CR: Carolanne Reynolds, Editor of West Van Matters
First of all, congratulations for adding the heritage houses to
the [H] Inventory; that's really great news. Of course it's
great to see the Heritage Revitalization Agreement going
through.
Just one comment about the pilot projects.
They did spend a lot of time. There were two pilot projs,
one's withdrawn and the other one, as you heard last week, the nbrs
were v upset about.
It's not that I'm against pilot projs, I don't want anybody to
think that, but I'm glad you're having a pilot process before the
pilot projects, as Cclr Smith suggested b/c there still are some
uncertainties in the cmnty, and ppl can come up with things, for
example -- and not that I'm against this either -- but on Esquimalt
that has, that's sgl-fam nbrhd and it's got, you know, ten units going
in -- so the uncertainty.
If you do it with your own land, that will help.
Now, with the other one.
This is baby steps, and I'm really glad and I'm so pleased
that there is a place on the website and it says "Correspondence
is available". But it's still isn't -- and I'm glad that
the MClk also said that they wd look to, you know, how they cd do this
and make it easier.
It's really
{stopped speaking here b/c CAO has gone to Mayor's seat and
they are conversing. Feel I shdn't speak when they are and maybe
affect their train of thought}
are you finished?
did you have a question for me then?
{was waiting to see if it was a question about what I was
saying}
MS: everybody's hanging off your every word.
CR: well... two words
Anyway, the simplest way, and I hope you
will do this, on your agenda. The Correspondence has always been
on the agenda itself.
Mayor: I realize that, and I realize that you come every week and
ask us that.
{So what's so difficult? why do other
things instead pretending that the Correspondence is back? At
least my questions got Correspondence actually put somewhere on the
DWV website, albeit in several places ppl wd never think of looking
esp since accustomed to the Corresp being on the agenda, so we're
edging closer and now just needs just a bit more push,
no?}
Ccl had made a decision to take it off the agenda but in no way
to keep it from the public. We've put it everywhere we can
think of on the website,
{between astonishment and laughter in
disbelief! Put it everywhere they can think of on the website?
Well, why not think of the agenda when ppl have been complaining about
nowhere, then somewhere no one wd guess, then nearby? Everywhere
they can think of? Purposely avoiding the rational spot it has always
been in?
Put everywhere except where asked,
restored?
Now one is being led to think there's
some hidden motivation not to have Corresp as part of the ccl mtg
record.}
and I believe since we've done that, of the 200 pieces of
correspondence, Ccl has brought forward ten of particular interest,
wch we're all perfectly prepared to discuss, b/c we believe that's the
most efficient, efficacious way to conduct the public's business,
so a mbr of Ccl may wish to come forward and suggest that it go
back on the ccl agenda,
{Both Cclrs Smith and Sop have asked
that the Corresp be restored. Let's hope two more speak up.
A pity such a loss to Ccl openness, transparency, access to
information........}
but we're keeping the ccl agenda tight, focused, and all the
correspondence that we receive fully available for the public.
CR: yes, there's no problem with that. If the problem is
having it tight, you can have one link on the agenda to where you have
it now, but if you have a list of what the topics are, that helps ppl
know. It will not take-- it will still be tight, you'll only
have a list.
The links the way you have now, but you have--
that is material that is discussed at the ccl mtg and I just
don't understand the rationale to remove it from the agenda. I
have no problem with how it's been shortened, I have no problem with
it just being a list, I have no problem with--
{btw, fyi the way they have the Corresp now, not there so easy
to copy and paste for us, but wd be no problem for DWV
staff.}
Mayor: --well,
CR: --but it shd be part of the mtg
Mayor: --I really think it's, at some point, we need to draw this
discussion to a close b/c it is a Ccl decision. So, any mbr
of Ccl may bring forward a motion to change that decision with a
seconder.
{that'a a challenge, councillors!}
But for now, actually, the ccl correspondence is the most
straightforward thing to access on the Web,
{incredible claim but even if true, the issue is WHERE the
Corresp is, no longer whether (several cclrs asked it be put on the
website b/c unaware it wasn't there at all). We're tantalizingly
close.}
and so there's-- that's our decision
CR: right, so--
Mayor: --I don't want to debate it with you
CR: absolutely; thank you very much -- and we hope that Ccl will
review this. Thank you..
Mayor: thank you
Mayor: Haven't seen you in a while -- let me guess, it's about
the Aquatic Ctr
Marianna Ussner: yes, v good
actually was just passing and occurred to me thinking of writing
a letter but thought I'd come in; wrote to Mgr of Aq Ctr and not
satisfied with the answers.
The sauna has not been cleaned for 18 mos minimum
I have sent maybe two official letters and a few notices
Mayor: May I suggest that the Director will follow up
MU: Dir of the Pool followed up with me today, Colleen, good
person but she doesn't understand you have to clean in the pool
that sauna, she send another email to me today, she's been
picking gum off the sauna and doing a little bit of cleaning but
we have to wait to August, I'm not prepared to wait
Mooi: I'd be happy to talk to staff and get back the
resident
MU: I'm not finished though; a couple of other things; that's
great
the water quality is v poor; had such a rash, and I've had
infections last year
Mayor: may I ask another question
MU: No, I want the Ccl to know about this
the water is not kept clean -- on Saturday nights they save
on maintenance but not using the dolphin [?] and not filtering,
cleaning that pool
you have to cancel, can't swim on Sundays; this stuff is
imp
they don't make ppl shower before they go in; quite frankly
it's supposed to be an ozone pool and there are lots of
chemicals. I had to get out again today and yesterday so again
didn't swim.
It's not acceptable
Ccl has to know about this
It's your Aq Ctr; it's supposed to be, I remember--
Mayor: ask Ms Mooi if she has any other info
Mooi: I'm not aware of this
MU: no, you wdn't be
Mooi: happy to look into
MU: are you the director? You're the Dir/Parks; I didn't know
that
Mayor: that's what I meant
MU: but I've gone the low road and nothing's been done; simply
not acceptable; it's disgusting for WV
Mayor: we will aim to maintain the high standard that the public
expects and that we hold ourselves to--
MU: --18 mos of not cleaning the sauna
Mayor: and the Dir/Parks will get back to you tomorrow
MU: see if you can get them to clean it tomorrow -- power
cleanser in there? and I also suggested, if they can't clean it, I'll
get a work party myself.
Mayor: thank you. Dara McGowan
D McGowan: apologize for coming in late
Mayor: may I suggest you use the mike
DMcG: can't hear me?
Mayor: we can but others might not be able to
D McG: wrt on-leash area for the seawalk
love dogs, am sure we all do here, but seems these dogs have
priority over us humans as a species
eg Capilano estuary is fish habitat, sanctuary, now we have
depletion of the stocks
v imp, Capilano is habitat area for fish to feed, and route to
spawn; imp animals not allowed in there
dogs going in, going on for years, and cmnty's not aware of
that
Mayor: are you referring to the off-leash dog park
D McG: yes [explains where]
re dogs being on leash, I have been bitten by a dog on the
beach area there
it's owner was trying to get on leash b/c the dog jumped out of
the truck
wasn't punctured so didn't get a rabies shot
point is second time same owner had difficulty handling her dog,
parked in the parking area
Mayor: may I tell you what we decided tonight?
D McG: I haven't finished
that surface, not healthy to walk on asphalt; arthritis b/c
impervious
the best surface is area designated for dogs to the right of
the seawall, all the way up to 25th
notice trimmed back once a year; when it is trimmed back
unfortunately the pollutants like blackberry and ivy are just left to
continue to grow
The emissions that can come off the rail line there, there's not
enough shrubbery to prevent the emissions from the rlwy lines and the
trains going into the lungs of the pedestrians going into that
area
I suggest wd be nice for us human species to be able to walk on
that surface
nice to have it trimmed back maybe twice a year
I congratulate the cmnty on doing the cleanup
One more suggestion
there is a heritage house that might be overlooked that may be
coming down
Heritage is as we all know, the number 1 tourist attraction in
the world
I commend commitment to do something about the dogs; have a nice
evening.
[MU got up again]
Mayor: anyone else? no, sorry; I'll ask Cclr Smith for
adjournment
MU: only once?
16. ADJOURNMENT 9:50
=== CCL MTG AGENDA July
19th ===
3pm in M Hall
MFCR and 7pm in Ccl Chamber
No, not a typo -- the closed session
will start at 3pm -- four hours of in camera?
Who'd guess they'd want to keep that much secret at one mtg???
Planning the magic act to pull money out of the hat to cover M
deficit?
3:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER OPEN SESSION
2. EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC
RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, members
of the public be excluded from part of the July 19, 2010 regular
Council Meeting on the basis of matters to be considered under the
following section of the Community Charter:
90. (1) A part of a council meeting may be closed
to the public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is
one or more of the following:
3. labour relations or other
employee relations;
4. the security of the
property of the municipality;
5. the acquisition,
disposition or expropriation of land or improvements, if the council
considers that disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the
interests of the municipality;
11. negotiations and related discussions
respecting the proposed provision of a municipal service that are at
their preliminary stages and that, in the view of the council, could
reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality if
they were held in public.
3. ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION
7:00 PM
Following conclusion of the closed session, the following items
will be considered:
4. RECONVENE OPEN SESSION
5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA July 19
6. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
June 28, 2010 Special Council Meeting; and
July 5, 2010 Regular Council Meeting.
7. DELEGATION
A. Abramson and G. Tolliday, North Shore Restorative
Justice Society (File: 0115-20-NVRJ1)
2009
Annual Report.
REPORTS
A
presentation will be provided.
Call for Public Input - Submissions and Questions
RECOMMENDED:
THAT Council receive the Annual Report for the year ended
December 31, 2009, as attached as Appendix A to the report dated July
8, 2010 from the Acting Director of Finance.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT "2009 Annual Budget Amendment Bylaw No. 4653, 2010" be
read a first, second and third time.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT Financial Information Act 2009 Reports be approved, as
attached as Appendix C to the report dated July 8, 2010 from the
Acting Director of Finance.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT:
WHEREAS on April 6, 2009 Council adopted 5 Year Financial Plan
Bylaw No. 4592, 2009 approving capital expenditures totalling
$3,099,323 and with funding to be provided from the Capital Facilities
Fund;
AND WHEREAS the actual amount expended was $1,260,975 for the
following approved capital projects:
Actual Budget
Eagle Island
Docks
$
78,374
$
50,000
Public Safety Building
Renovations $
196,751 $
300,000
Civic Facilities Review $
29,962
$
150,000
Fire Hall Major
Improvements
$
164,890 $
200,000
Child Care Hub -
Ambleside*
$
6,582
$ 210,400
Child Care Hub - Gordon House*
$ 38,305
$
119,600
Seniors Envelope/Roof
$ 727,638 $
1,875,000
Hydraulic Rock Breaker
$ 18,473
$
19,000
* cost shared project
NOW THEREFORE Council resolves as
follows:
Council approves the expenditure of $1,260,975 from the
Capital Facilities Fund to fund 2009 capital projects as budgeted
in 5 Year Financial Plan Bylaw No. 4592, 2009.
(File: 1010-20-10-018)
At the June 21 regular mtg Council received the
report dated June 10 from the Community Planner and set the date for
consideration for July 19, 2010.
Reports received up to July 15, 2010:
Development Variance Permit Application No. 10-018 (2972 Park
Lane) June 10; for Ccl June 21
Written Submissions received up to July 15, 2010:
None
PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
RECOMMENDED:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ... be received for
information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED: THAT staff report back
OR
RECOMMENDED:
THAT DVP Applic to allow construction of a new house,
pool deck, accessory building and landscape walls, be
approved.
At the June 28 regular mtg Council received the
report dated June 17 from the Manager of Community Planning and set
the date for consideration for July 19, 2010.
Reports received up to July 15, 2010:
Development Variance Permit Application No. 10-039 (925
Sentinel Drive); June 17; for Ccl June
28
Written Submissions received up to July 15,
2010: No items received to
date.
PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
RECOMMENDED:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ... be received for
information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED: THAT staff report back
OR RECOMMENDED:
THAT DVP Applic ... to allow construction of a new
dwelling, be approved.
At the June 28 regular mtg Council received the report dated June
16 from the Community Planner and set the date for consideration for
July 19, 2010.
Reports received up to July 15, 2010:
Development Variance Permit Application No. 09-032 (1395
Haywood Ave); June 16; for Ccl June
28
Written Submissions received up to July 15, 2010:
NAME / DATE / FOR COUNCIL
CONSIDERATION:
S. Cullen /
July 13 / July
19; M. & A. Best /
July 13 / July
19; K. Parker /
July 13 / July
19
PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
RECOMMENDED:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ... be received for
information.
If Council wishes a further staff report, then:
RECOMMENDED: THAT staff report back
OR RECOMMENDED:
THAT DVP Applic to allow construction of a new house and
detached garage, be approved.
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The report dated July 9, 2010 from the Manager of Permits,
Inspections and Bylaws regarding BC Ferry Services Inc. request for an
Order of Non Enforcement of the Noise Control Bylaw - Power Washing
After-hours be received.
2. Council approve the request from BC Ferry Services Inc. for an
Order of Non Enforcement of the Noise Control Bylaw No. 4404, 2005
Section 6.1.2 (b) on
Friday July 23, 2010, Saturday July 24, 2010 and Sunday
July 25, 2010 in order to conduct late night power washing; of the
waiting area concrete surface and the planters around the
Administration area: the Administration building including the outside
windows; foot passenger walkway windows and the Control
Tower.
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The report dated July 13, 2010 be received for information;
and
2. Animal Control and Licence Amendment Bylaw (Appendix A) be
read a first, second, and third time.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT [it] be introduced and read a first, second, and third
time.
RECOMMENDED ... be read a first, second, and third time.
BYLAWS for ADOPTION
This bylaw was the subject of a Public hearing
held on June 28, 2010. The Hearing has closed and Council is not
permitted to receive any further submissions, in any
form.
This bylaw received first reading at the June
7, 2010 Council Meeting, was the subject of a Public Hearing which was
held and closed on June 28, 2010, and received second and third
reading on July 5, 2010.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
18. Consent Agenda Items -- No items.
OTHER ITEMS
19. No items.
{This is where a mbr of Ccl can bring
up a letter from Correspondence for discussion; however not only are
the letters not attached to the agenda or the agenda item, there isn't
even a list -- surely the minimum that cd be done so the public has
all the material for the mtg, just as Ccl has.}
20. REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS 21. PQP/COMMENTS
22. ADJOURNMENT
=== ANIMALWATCH
===
BC's Wildlife:
BC has 75% of Canada's bird species and 70% of its freshwater fish
species.
+ WHITE RAVENS
Another rare white raven spotted near
Qualicum Beach
by MIKE
YIP, OCEANSIDE STAR -- JULY 5, 2010
Some say it's the water they drink. Others claim
it's the pure island air. We may never know, but it doesn't matter.
Another white raven has been born in Qualicum Beach.
White ravens are rare all over the world except
in and around this area of Vancouver Island. There isn't a documented
history on these birds, but they've been in the area for
years.
Golfers from nearby Morningstar Golf Course have
reported sightings of white ravens for more than a decade. One golfer
said he saw and photographed four of them perched on a branch about
eight years ago. Another said he saw a white raven that had mated with
a black raven and produced mottled brown offspring.
Three years ago, I was invited to a small farm in
nearby Hilliers where I saw and photographed two young white
ravens.
Two years ago, a pair of white ravens and their
three black siblings frequented the ball fields behind Ravensong
Pool.
This year, there seems to be only one new one,
and it has also been hanging around the ball fields. There are
possibly many others.
Although science may not always have the answer,
the scientific explanation would be that the parents, common ravens,
both have a genetic defect that sometimes produces chicks that lack
normal pigmentation.
The odds of two such ravens mating would probably
be similar to winning the lottery, but once that happens there is no
reason not to expect the regular occurrence of white
offspring.
Common ravens are monogamous. Under ideal
conditions, the parents of the white ravens can live for more than 30
years and probably produce offspring for at least 20 years. If the
offspring is all white with pink eyes, it is an albino. If the
offspring isn't all white, or doesn't have pink eyes, it is referred
to as leucistic. All five of the white ravens I have seen had blue
eyes, which means they are leucistic.
There are many legends and beliefs associated
with white ravens. Many involve the concept of the trickster or
villain white raven being turned to black.
One belief is that the sighting of a white raven
foretells the destruction of the world. With all the wars and
environmental destruction going on, it might not be too far from the
truth.
Mike Yip is a photographer,
writer and publisher of Vancouver Island Birds.
http://www.vancouverislandbirds.com/
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Another+rare+white+raven+spotted+near+Qualicum+Beach/3236437/story.html
=A9 Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun
+ CAMELS
Numbers fall just as vital world role
awaits
The practical camel and its
culture
In a desertifying world short of water,
the utilitarian camel, and the ancient cultures that depend on it,
offer a way to use land too poor to sustain anything
else
by Ed Emery from
http://mondediplo.com/2010/07/20camels
The camel has long had a
special place in the imagination of the West, from the Greek historian
Herodotus telling a story about Indians using fast-running camels to
defeat dog-sized, man-eating ants that guarded
gold (1), through the Three Magi journeying to
Christ's birth, Lawrence of Arabia and the desert chic of Camel
cigarettes....
+ RAT PUPS --
Subject: Rat Mothering
Interesting information about love and attention;
pity the cute photo is missing from the website; it was in the
newspaper.
Good mothering
passes benefits across generations, study reveals
BY RANDY SHORE, VANCOUVER SUN JULY 14, 2010
Rat mothers who touch and groom their offspring create
happier, smarter rats -- not just for one generation, but for
successive generations, according to researcher Michael Meaney. Good
mothering, in other words, changes the DNA of generations of
rats.
Read
more:
http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Good+mothering+passes+benefits+across+generations+study+reveals/3274090/story.html#ixzz0u9biboAp
=== SALMONWATCH
===
*** DFO plans new rules to police salmon
farming
Fisheries department adding 50 staff in new
$8-million section
BY SCOTT SIMPSON, VANCOUVER SUN --
JULY 13, 2010
The Department of Fisheries and Oceans expects to
spend upwards of $8 million a year on a new program to manage and
police the British Columbia aquaculture industry, the department
announced on Monday.
Acting on a 2009 B.C. Supreme Court ruling, the
department is taking over from the provincial government as manager of
B.C.'s roughly $400-million aquaculture industry including salmon
farming....
Salmon farming accounts for 90 per cent of the
aquaculture industry's revenue. It has been dogged by controversy
since its inception in the early 1980s, with opponents suggesting it
is contributing to the decline of wild Pacific salmon.
The provincial government has been a strong
proponent of salmon farming but in 2009 was removed from its role as
manager of the industry when conservationists persuaded the B.C.
Supreme Court that aquaculture was a fishery and therefore exclusively
under the control of the federal Crown.
The feds have until Dec. 18 to develop a regime
to regulate the fishery and this week announced a 60-day consultation
period in which salmon farmers, first nations, and the public can
comment on proposed regulations....
Craig Orr, executive director of Watershed Watch
Salmon Society, said he is concerned that DFO has not taken a position
on shifting from open pen to closed containment pens for raising
salmon.
"In Europe they have not recovered their
wild fish populations despite coming up with regulations that are
probably the best in the world for open net cage -- and we have
smaller and more vulnerable wild fish."
*** PACIFIC AQUACULTURE
REGULATIONS
Date: July 13, 2010 3:42:47 PM PDT
Below is an article from today on a new salmon
feedlot disease in the Atlantic. They report over 400
outbreaks in 11 years and it is now in the wild. Scientists
just identified the virus as HSMI and it is generally fatal to
fish. Obviously, the eggs imported to BC have not been
checked for this virus. Will there be a response from our Minister of
Fisheries on how we can be sure this has not spread here?
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/07/salmon-disease-identified/
I just published this article below on the
secrecy of salmon feedlot disease outbreaks in BC.
http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2010/07/12/FishFarmSecrecy/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thetyee+(The+Tyee)
The Cohen Inquiry is a massive undertaking. We
have requested salmon feedlot disease outbreak information so it can
be examined in relationship to the declining Fraser sockeye
productivity. Hopefully they will comply. DFO genetic
research is reporting that Fraser sockeye are being strongly
challenged by a virus, but they do not know which virus
yet.
=== WEBWATCH ===
We're eating catfish! had a basa fillet lately?
Vietnam's popn has gone in 35 yrs from 35M to 85M; looks like
we're eating renamed catfish
This just sent to me, commenting: "Note the basa & tiger
prawns are listed! If you eat fish you will be interested in
watching this video." http://www.vimeo.com/11817894
=== INFObits ===
*** Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:43:17 -0400 --
Subject: Happy Birthday Dalai Lama
The Dalai Lama turns 75 today. For decades he has given us
all hope -- setting a generous example of wisdom, non-violence and
compassion for a better world.
The spiritual leader of Tibet has spent over 50 years in
exile, and he continues to preach peace and compassion. Let's
share with him how much the world values him and is inspired by his
life.
*** 2010 July 18 -- UN declares world's first
International Nelson Mandela Day
http://www.angel-invest.us/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=32918
=== NEWSWATCH ===
The Economist: Photos
Gaza
besieged
Photographer Bruno
Stevens on Gaza's intricate network of tunnels and circumventing
Israel's stifling trade restrictions
http://audiovideo.economist.com/?fr_story=1684900c3d62f8125d39b2da7bad4d2c6cef1fc2&rf=bm
=== HERITAGEWATCH
===
Tours (limited to ten): Wednesdays (1pm), Saturdays (11am &
2pm); July 7th to August 28th.
*** It's RoyalTea-by-the-Sea time
again! Saturday July 31 from 2 to 4pm in Dundarave
Park
Reservations: Heritage West Van
at 922 4400 or reservations@RoyalTea.ca
=== MAIKU ===
2010 July 4/5 -- two politi-ku and one rose-ku
complain about your country?
it's
only as good
as
each one of
us
ruffled roses
beam
under and through green palm fronds
intense magenta
so easy to blame
others / as if not
involved / or
responsible
=== QUOTATIONS / THOUGHTS / PUNS
===
Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in
affairs which properly concern them.
--
Paul Valery, French poet, essayist, and
philosopher (1875 - 1945)
It is curious that physical courage should be
so common in the world and moral courage so rare
--
Mark Twain, Americanauthor and humorist (1835-1910)
Knowledge is Freedom: hide it, and it withers;
share it, and it blooms. -- P.
Hill
I am only a person who limits myself to raising a stone to
check underneath. It isn't my fault monsters appear every now and
then.
-- Jose Saramago,
Nobel-laureate Portuguese playwright, novelist, and journalist (1922 -
2010 June 18)
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little
voice at the end of the day that says, "I'll try again
tomorrow."
--
Mary Anne Radmacher-Hershey
To lead does not mean to dominate, but to fulfill
a duty
Like cars in amusement parks, our direction is often determined
through collisions.
--
Yahia Lababidi, (American?) aphorist, poet, author (b. 1973)
The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has
wasted 30 years of his life
.
--
Muhammad Ali, former American boxer (b 1942)
There is one rule for politicians all over the world: don't say
in power what you say in opposition; if you do, you only have to carry
out what the other fellows have found impossible.
--
John Galsworthy, English novelist and playwright (1867 -
1933)
If you want to make a good Hamlet, you gotta break a few
legs.
I met the woman of my dreams at the base of Mount
Vesuvius. She is the lava my life.
It's not that the man did not know how to juggle, he
just didn't have the balls to do it.
Life ain't fair for a baby. They always get the bum
wrap!
To write with a broken pencil is
pointless.