Calendar to Nov 11

by Carolanne Reynolds, Editor

Hope you enjoyed Thanksgiving!
Happy New Year      Yom Kippur       Diwali
        . . . and now we're into election campaign mode.........
MAIN ITEMS, ccl mtg Monday Oct 17th:  PH on Sunset Lane; then ccl mtg.
NSh Multicultural Society; Parks Master Plan WG's Preliminary Draft; Rezoning/DPA for  2436 Haywood; Correspondence includes PkR intersection; WRA re Smart Meters; Kiwanis Devt; 2372 Bellevue proposal; PSB and AmbNOW; staff responses to queries received in April and June; bus stop billboards; Scouts' Apple Day Fundraising (Oct 15/16); 1100+ petition against building on waterfront; complaint about non-response for 11 months; Polman's Five, asked July 4 and still looking for answers
=  Vive le Canada (Nobel Prizes and Elections); M ELECTIONWATCH; from the EDITOR'S DESK; UPDATES & INFO (Bird Count; View re taxes and TransLink)
=  CALENDAR to Nov 11th; CULTUREWATCH (Theatre; Art; Music; Photography, Film); Nature Walks
=  Subscriber EMail: Update A, Oct 6  (Ccl Oct 3rd highlights; DWV Website Survey; AmbNOW PSB; GFOA Award; Welch St improvements; UBCM Heritage Resolution; Hands off our lands; Jobs's Personal Life; Marley vs Kains; Ontario Election; Nobel Peace Prize; Archbishop Tutu; Pandamonium)
= Ccl Mtg NOTES Oct 3rd PUBLIC HEARING: Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society devt
Ccl Mtg: WV Historical Society re Arts Facilities on Argyle; Gd Nbr Bylaw; PSB; AmbNOW Expenditures; TransLink; (Wetmore) Pacific Arbour Revisions; Rezoning, Redevt Permit Applic 1305 Marine (Shell gas station); Park Royal at-grade intersection; Kiwanis (second/third reading); DVP 1365 28th; Correspondence: AmbNow; bus shelters; April (!!!) Fin Cmte mtg minutes; Staff response re GLH; cat-licensing; CNV early child care and milk container deposits; amendments to RGS; LMTAC; Drinking Water Quality
=  ANIMALWATCH (giant spider crab; disappearing octopus); INFObits (Drugs/Portugal; Citizenship Wk); PEACEWATCH (Palestine/UN); ARTWATCH (pencil power); RISING CAIN (it's rocket science!); MONEYWATCH (CFIB); WATERWATCH (IOW ethnic cleansing); WOMANWATCH ($$$ Engagement rings); SCHOOLWATCH (lucky to go to school); CBCWATCH (example; book); HERITAGEWATCH (BC, Vancouver); MAIKU (rain-ku); QUOTATIONS/THOUGHTS/PUNS; The Oldest Profession

===  Vive le CANADA  ===
Nobel Prize to Canadians:
Statement by the Prime Minister of Canada paying tribute to recipients of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (October 3, 2011  Ottawa, Ontario
Prime Minister Stephen Harper today issued the following) statement on the awarding of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine to Canadian-born Ralph M. Steinman:
"On behalf of all Canadians, I would like to pay tribute to the remarkable accomplishments of Ralph M. Steinman and his colleagues Jules A. Hoffman and Bruce A. Beutler, who today were awarded the prestigious Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine....
"Sadly, Dr. Steinman passed away on September 30, 2011, prior to receiving his prize. The Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine is a fitting final tribute to his life's work.
"Dr. Steinman shall be honoured for all time with this achievement. Canadians will mourn his loss."
Oct 3: re-election of Robert Ghiz as Premier of PEI
Oct 4: election of Greg Selinger as the Premier of Manitoba
Oct 6: Premier McGuinty's re-election for a third term as Premier of Ontario.
Oct 7: Alison Redford, new premier of Alberta
Oct 11: the people of Newfoundland and Labrador elected Progressive Conservative Party leader Kathy Dunderdale to continue to serve as Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Oct 11: election as Premier Darrell Pasloski of the Yukon Party

===  ELECTIONWATCH -- Municipal  ===  Nominations closed Oct 14.
Cclr Smith elected MAYOR by acclamation:  Congratulations and Good Luck to Mike.
Candidates for Councillor:
Mary-Ann Booth, Craig Cameron, Michael Evison, Nora Gambioli. Gregg Henderson, David Jones. Damian Kettlewell, Michael Lewis, Sarah Modam (Moghaddamjoo)*, Max Nikpay, Trish Panz, Carolanne Reynolds, Bill Soprovich, Vivian Vaughan
                                                       The race is on!
*  Modam is the spelling on the list of candidates ( http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=36292 ) and the other on the declaration.
Current info can be found at westvancouver.ca/election  http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=130
Thurs Oct 13 KMC 7pm --  West Vancouver Chamber of Commerce
Tues Oct 18 Gleneagles Clubhouse 7pm -- Western Residents' Association
Thurs Oct 20 KMC 7pm -- West Vancouver Citizens for Good Government
Thurs Nov 3 Sentinel Secondary School -- WV District Parent Adv Ccl (only for School Trustees)
Wed Nov 9 Srs' Activity Ctr 2:30pm -- SAC Adv Board
Important Dates - 2011 Election  http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=35628
Oct 19: last day to meet the 30-day residency/property ownership requirement to be able to register on general voting day
Oct 21: at 4pm is the deadline for a candidate to withdraw
Oct 21: after 4pm the final list of candidates will be posted on the District's website
Oct 24: 4pm the declaration of election by voting will be made, and declaration of candidates elected by acclamation (if any)
October:  Notices informing of advance voting opportunities and election by  voting will be published in the local newspaper (and available on the District's  website)
November 5, 8, 9, 10, 14: advance voting from 8am to 8pm at Municipal Hall
November 19:  voting from 8am to 8pm at any of the ten voting places  (see Where and When to Vote section)

===  from the EDITOR'S DESK  ===
o  Do hope Culture Days becomes an annual event:  http://www.culturedays.ca/en
o  Overwhelmingly busy time; pls forgive best efforts trying to get down what ppl say at the ccl mtgs and to be inclusive of the many events in the Calendar.
o  We've just passed Thanksgiving and now go into Remembrance Day -- they make a good pair.

===  UPDATES & INFO  ===
from the newsletter:
MONTHLY BIRD COUNTS  --  first Sunday of every month at 8:30am.
November 6th. Meet at the upper kiosk in the parking lot in Lighthouse Park Call Suann at 926 9094 for more information.
One man's view since WV voted to increase property taxes:
Congestion pricing should pay for transit
So Pam Goldsmith-Jones (the soon-to-be former mayor of West Vancouver) and friends think milking property owners to pay for poorly planned and ridiculously expensive transit is the way to go.
Taxing people who may not even own a car or need to use transit makes sense, sure it does.
Of course, taxing everyone a little bit is like putting the frog in the pot before turning up the heat - the mayors must hope the overtaxed and underserved don't notice the slight increase in pain.
Why are our political leaders ignoring the obvious solution recommended by the experts: road and congestion pricing?
Penalize those who choose not to use transit to help make transit better (and the roads less congested).
Also, it would help if TransLink would lose its fixation on expensive SkyTrain technology and deploy light rapid transit - proven to be cheaper and therefore able to serve many more areas for the same investment.
The mayors' proposal: the wrong tax for the wrong transit system.
(From: http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/letters/Congestion+pricing+should+transit/5549598/story.html)

=======  CALENDAR to Nov 11th  ======= 
All mtgs are at M Hall unless indicated otherwise.  NOTE: shown are mtgs known at this date; often there are additions, changes, cancellations after WVM goes out.  Check the DWV Calendar: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Calendar.aspx  .  Notices/mtgs/changes too late for an issue or too early for the next are sent to subscribers as updates (see above).  They then appear in the next newsletter.
+  Mental Illness Awareness Week (October 2 - 8, Canada and USA).
+  Canada's Citizenship Week, which runs from October 16 - 22:
+  LPPS -- one more weed pull scheduled for 2011, and this takes place in Caulfeild Park on Saturday, Oct 15th, 9am - Noon.  Please join us to continue our restoration work in this beautiful park.  We shall be weeding and clearing more blackberries.  Please wear sturdy shoes, old clothes and work gloves, and bring along clippers and a spade or hand trowel if possible.
Meet at the ANCHOR on PILOT HOUSE  ROAD at 9am. (If you are driving, take Marine Drive to Piccadilly South, turn south on Piccadilly and left on Dogwood Lane, which becomes Pilot House Road.)  Drinks and snacks will be provided. If you are able to join us for part or all of the morning, we look forward to seeing you there.
==  Tuesday October 18
 ~ 7pm ~ WRA-sponsored all-candidates mtg; Gleneagles Golf Course Clubhouse (MC David Thomas)
==  Wednesday October 19
        ~ 7pm ~ Library Bd at Library; but Bd of Variance CANCELLED
==  Thursday October 20
        ~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte Mtg  CANCELLED
        ~ 7pm ~ (KMC) All-Candidates Mtg (WV Citizens for Good Govt); see Oct 27 also
==  Friday October 21
~ 6:30 - midnight ~ Oktoberfest
Celebrate the Fall Harvest with our second Oktoberfest Event at Gleneagles Community Centre. Dress up in your favourite German outfit, enjoy a hearty helping of traditional German grub including schnitzel, bratwurst, German potato salad, braised cabbage, and apple strudel, and dance the night away to BC's best Bavarian band: "Al Pichler and the Alpines". This evening is not to be missed. Cost $30/person.  Info: 921 2100
==  Saturday October 22
The Second Annual Community Harvest Dinner at St Monica's (Horseshoe Bay).  Tix are $15/adult, $8/child, or $30/family of four. Come and enjoy a homemade feast for the whole family. Children's activities provided, call 921 9112 or email stmonica@uniserve.com for tickets.
~ 7pm ~  10th Annual Rotary Wine and Food Festival
Once again, we are hosting the Annual North Shore Wine and Food Festival at Park Royal South. There will be over 30 wineries and ten restaurants for your enjoyment. Tickets are $50 for an evening of delicious food, wine, entertainment and great prizes.  Bring your friends and enjoy a great night out. Don't worry about getting home, because your ticket includes a $10 Taxi Voucher home. Buy your tickets today at Park Royal Guest Services or online at www.northshorewinefest.com.
~ 6pm ~  Islam and Pluralism -- Dinner & Lecture by Michael Hamilton Morgan
International speaker, nonprofit founder and former U.S. diplomat Michael Morgan is also a nonfiction author and novelist. Since 2007, Morgan has been a keynote speaker at the Arab Business Council, the Mohammed bin Rashid Foundation in Dubai, the Abu Dhabi International Book Fair, the Sharjah International Book Fair, and many other venues. The message of Morgan's 2007 book, Lost History: the Enduring Legacy of Muslim Scientists, Thinkers and Artists has reached more than 300 million people worldwide. The book was praised by former President Jimmy Carter, Jordan's King Abdullah II, and NYU's Pulitzer Prize winning historian David Levering Lewis.To read Mr. Morgan's full biography and for a list of events go to www.islamichistorymonth.com
The BC Muslim Association & The Canadian Islamic Congress proudly present 2011 ISLAMIC HISTORY MONTH VANCOUVER  
Limited Number - FREE but by reservation only 270 2522  www.bcma.com
==  Wednesday October 26
        ~ 5pm ~ WV Police Board mtg at WVPD
        ~ 7pm ~  BPAHA AGM with WV Ccl candidates (Sentinel High School) www.bpaha.org
~ 7pm ~ The Mayors' Tribute to the Arts
The Fund for the Arts on the North Shore (FANS) society presents the Mayors' Tribute to the Arts. Internationally recognized dance choreographer Anna Wyman has been chosen to receive this year's FANS Distinguished Artist Recognition Award.
   Place: Bistro Chez Michel, NV; Tix $25. Appetizers/cash bar. store187@theupsstore.ca Call 990 4712 for more info.
==  Thursday October 27
        ~ 5pm ~ NSh Adv Cmte on Disability Issues mtg at DNV M Hall
        ~ 5:30pm ~ Police Bd mtg -- MOVED to Oct 26
        ~ 6:30pm ~ Shell Gas Station -- Public Information mtg at WV Memorial Library
        ~ 7pm ~ WVCGG "Endorsation" mtg re candidates for Ccl
==  Saturday October 29
~ 11am - 3pm ~  Get spooky with a free Halloween Craft Day, at Park Royal South Centre Court. Costumes are highly encouraged. So give your Halloween costume a try, and come enjoy this fun afternoon. (This activity is best suited for children under 12). http://www.shopparkroyal.com/campaigns/halloween-park-royal
==  Sunday October 30
~ 1pm ~ Canadian Boat to Gaza is organising an action on Sunday, the day before Halloween. We will be parading our CBG kayak around Granville Island. Banners, signs, and pamphlets provided.  Granville Island--at the entrance under the bridge, rain or shine. (Look for the Palestinian flag and the Kayak on wheels.)
The goal is to remind people of: the ongoing siege of Gaza; the predicament of the Palestinian people; what individuals can do about it; organisations here in Vancouver that might help them take action.
Our action will take place in concert with a Kayak Flotilla on Ottawa's Rideau Canal -- right up to Harper's office -- to let him know what we think of his policies on the Middle East.  Join us for a walk in solidarity around Granville Island.
Need more info? Call Mahmoud: 604 366 4225  The Canadian Boat to Gaza  www.tahrir.ca
{This notice sent to me from Jews for a Just Peace}
==  Monday October 31
~ 3:30 - 5:30pm ~       Trick Or Treat - A Halloween Tradition at Park Royal throughout all of Park Royal North, South, and The Village. Wear your costume and visit stores with the pumpkin stickers to get the best treats.
~ ?pm ~ The Horseshoe Bay Business Association Annual General Meeting  hbbusinessassociation@gmail.com
                from  www.thewesterner.ca 
==  Thursday November 3
        ~ 7:30pm ~ All Candidates Mtg (WV Dist Parent Adv Ccl) at Sentinel Secondary
==  Wednesday November 9
Mayor Goldsmith-Jones will end her term as West Van's Mayor this November.  As a result, some WV community leaders and our Council have organised a farewell reception at the Kay Meek Centre starting at 7:30pm.  Cocktails, hors d'oeuvres, live jazz, special guests Vicki Gabereau, Kirsten Nash, and others will make this a memorable evening with proceeds benefiting the West Vancouver Cmnty Foundation.  Tickets are $45 through the Kay Meek Box Office; ADVANCE TIX ONLY, by Nov 2nd            http://www.kaymeekcentre.com/on_stage/1250

***  Friday November 11th Remembrance Day  ***
+++  WV MEMORIAL LIBRARY +++  http://www.westvanlibrary.ca
Come practise English conversation -- develop skills, learn vocabulary, participate in interesting discussions, and make new friends. Fridays, through December 16 (there will be no English Corner November 11).
Topics for October will be Manners (Oct 14), Health: Body, Mind, and Spirit (Oct 21), and Superstition, Old Wives' Tales, and Sayings (Oct. 28).
For more information please call Nadia Vargha Majzub at 922 5152.
English Corner is facilitated by the Bahai Community of West Vancouver in partnership with the Library.
o  Friends of the Library Booksale
Friends Preview, membership required: Oct 13 Thursday 6 - 8 pm
Friday 14 and Saturday 15  Main Booksale 10 am - 4 pm
=  Monday Oct 17   Teen Movie Night
        Transformers: Dark of the Moon  6:15 - 9pm PG | Refreshments provided
=  Tuesday Oct 18   Introduction to Social Media
~ 2 - 4 pm ~ Computer Training Room. Call the Community Computing Centre to register for this class which will teach you about Facebook and Twitter: 925 7405.
o  Philosophers' Café
10:30am - noon Friday Oct 21
The Canadian Charter of Rights & Freedoms with guest James LymBruner. Admission $5.
o  Friday Night Concert Series presents
~ 7:30pm Oct 21 --  Don Alder  --  Guitar Player Magazine's 2010 "Guitar Superstar". Discover the original deeply textured music of this local talent, who also works with the Rick Hansen Man in Motion Foundation.  Come early for best seats. Doors open at 7pm. See you there!
=  Monday Oct 24
Join Lions Gate Sinfonia conductor Clyde Mitchell in conversation with pianist Sara Davis Buechner.
10:30am - noon, Welsh Hall West.
From New York to Tokyo to Vancouver and in between - the life of jet-setting pianist Sara Davis Buechner, with Clyde Mitchell, host. Monday, October 24, 10:30am - noon
=  Wednesday 26   Authors in Our Community: Harold Rosen
Buddha, Christ, Muhammad -- is there any connection? Harold Rosen has discovered 25 links between the world's major religions. 7:30 - 9pm
=  Thursday 27   Meet the Personality behind the Falls
Author Catherine Gildiner will share her tales from a not-so-typical girlhood, and larger-than-life memories of misadventures during the tumultuous Sixties. 7 - 8:30pm.
In After the Falls, Catherine Gildiner recounts her remarkable coming-of-age with the same wit, candour, and spirited storytelling that made Too Close to the Falls a modern classic. Don't miss the chance to meet this smart and funny author as she shares firsthand tales from a not-so-typical girlhood, and larger-than-life memories of misadventures during the tumultuous Sixties.
Those wishing to take advantage of our hearing impairment technology are asked to arrive 15 minutes early.
=  November 4 Friday 7 - 11pm --  LA DOLCE VITA  --
West Vancouver Memorial Library Foundation  --  An evening of La Dolce Vita in support of the West Vancouver Memorial Library including wine tasting, regional cuisine, live opera performance, literary showcase, grand prize draw, gelato fresco, espresso bar.  Tickets available now - $125 each.
Contact the West Vancouver Memorial Library Foundation Office 925 7425 or foundation@westvanlibrary.ca
In the Gallery  Woven Inspiration
A selection of recent tapestries by members of The Tapestry Weavers Interest Group: Virginia Baldwin, Nina Chrzanowski, Traude Doelker, Vladimira Fillion, May Keller, Myrna Lindstrom, Robert Schinnour, and Linda Wiles.  This exhibition displays a wide variety of moods, images, and techniques available to the modern designer/weaver of tapestries.  Showing Oct 3 - Nov 3. For exhibition details visit our Gallery web page.

+++  WV MUSEUM +++ http://westvancouvermuseum.ca/exhibitions/current_exhibition
Sonny Assu - Longing  ~~  September 14 to November 5
      Longing is an installation of innovative, new work by Vancouver-based artist Sonny Assu composed of sculptures and photographs. The sculptures are found objects now displayed conceptually as "masks". As found objects they provide the core focus of the investigation undertaken by the artist. Within this context, found is juxtaposed to lost, or an art and culture altered or displaced by conditions of colonialism and European settlement. The artist uses longing to suggest a history reexamined and reclaimed.
       The photographs show the "masks" in situ within three sites, which characterize the collecting and marketing of Northwest Coast art: as artifacts in the visible storage area of an ethnographic museum, as fine art in an exhibition of aesthetic objects in a commercial gallery, and the tourist shop emphasizing curiosities, souvenirs, or keepsakes to take home.
       Vancouver-based artist Sonny Assu is Laich-kwil-tach (Kwakwaka'wakw) of the Weka'yi  First Nation of Cape Mudge, Vancouver Island. Assu's work has been featured in several notable group exhibits over the past years, How Soon is Now?, Vancouver Art Gallery; Comic Relief, National Gallery of Canada; Challenging Traditions: Contemporary First Nations Art of the Northwest Coast; McMichael Canadian Art Collection, and Changing Hands: Art Without Reservation Part 2, Museum of Arts and Design in New York City. A recent solo exhibit, Sonny Assu: As Defined Within the Indian Act, was held at the Belkin Satellite Gallery, Vancouver. Assu's work is in the collection of the National Gallery, the Seattle Art Museum, the Museum of Anthropology at UBC, and in public and private collections across Canada and the United States. The artist is represented by the Equinox Gallery in Vancouver.
This exhibition is guest-curated by Petra Watson and made possible with financial support from the Audain Foundation.
Artist's Talk: Wednesday October 19 at 7pm
+++  FERRY BUILDING GALLERY  +++ http://ferrybuildinggallery.com ~ 925 7290
October 18 - 30 ~~ Sculpture & Paintings 
Mysteries & Histories: Totemic Forms & Other New Works  by Susanna Blunt
Opening Reception October 18 Tuesday 6 - 8pm
Artist in Attendance October 22 Saturday 2 - 3pm
+++ SILK PURSE +++   http://www.silkpurse.ca/gallery2.html
October 18 - 30  ~~  "Intercontinental Inspirations"
Artist Shashi Kapoor's multimedia paintings depicting people and places of inspiration from India to Africa and beyond. Each work of art invites you into a conversation of reflection and celebration of those who encourage and motivate us in our lives.
Opening reception: Tuesday October 18th from 6 - 8pm
November 1 - 13  ~~  "Skulls & Skeletons: ALIVE!"
Lucy Godwin's paintings are a vibrant & fun look at the Afterlife, combining influences from New York street art, Dia de los Muertos & Africa. Described as "in touch with a raw undercurrent. The themes are universal, her gestures bold, her use of colour original."
Opening reception: November 1st Tuesday 6 - 8pm
Complete list of events: http://kaymeekcentre.com/on_stage/events_calendar
Electronic newsletter: http://kaymeekcentre.weebly.com
Simplest way to get on email list, call 913 3634 (also for tix) or email tickets@kaymeekcentre.com
Rock'n'Roll Pianomen  --  8pm Friday October 21
Abra Cadabra  --  7:30pm Saturday October 22
PAGE ONE    Tuesday, October 25, 2011    7:30PM
PRO NOVA CHAMBRE ENSEMBLE     Wednesday, October 26, 2011    7:30PM
PSWE PRESENTS INVITATION TO DANCE   Saturday, October 29, 2011    8:00PM
JUAN MARTIN    Friday, November 4, 2011    8:00PM
        8pm:  Fri Nov 4, Sat Nov 5; Nov 9, 10, 11, 12 ;  16, 17, 18, 19
WITH GLOWING HEARTS     Saturday, November 5, 2011    2:00PM
REMEMBRANCE DAY EDUCATION PROGRAM   Monday, November 7, 2011   12:30PM
IN A BETTER WORLD    Tuesday, November 8, 2011    7:30PM
PAM GOLDSMITH-JONES    Wednesday, November 9, 2011    7:30PM

+++ ROYAL CANADIAN LEGION BRANCH 60, West Vancouver +++
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Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:October Calendar of Events2.pdf (PDF /=ABIC=BB) (0017E155)
Tuesday, October 25th - General Meeting
        7pm -- Dance to: RAY AND RYAN O'TOOLE
Sunday - October 30th  - Veterans' Social - 2pm
   VOLUNTEERS: Pls write info@westvany60.com or call 922 3587 re Poppy Campaign
+++ WV CHAMBER of COMMERCE + 926 6614 + http://www.westvanchamber.com
Oct 18 - The Power Hour
Location: Delany's Coffee House | Dundarave Village
Have you been to the Chamber's "Power Hour Group"? The next "Power Hour Group" will be on Tuesday, Oct 18th, 8am-9am at Delany's Coffee House in Dundarave Village. New members are encouraged to attend Power Hour! We do more business in an hour than most people do all day. Come and promote your business to an intimate group of business owners and local professionals all while enjoying your morning cup of coffee!
Oct 25 - Business to Business Breakfast Club
Location: Cafe TrafiQ
Meet and mingle with a great group of entrepreneurial members of the business community - a valuable opportunity to expand your business through the power of referrals. The next Business to Business Breakfast Club will be on Tuesday, Oct 25th, 7:45am - 8:45am. Everyone welcome!

+  VANCOUVER PLAYHOUSE THEATRE  604 873 3311  vancouverplayhouse.com
Tosca Cafe -- Movement-theatre piece, starring Peter Anderson (Overcoat fame) and prima ballerina Sabina Allemann plus Dean Paul Gibson; Oct 8 - 29    
+  ARTS CLUB   687 1644   http://www.artsclub.com
~ Stanley Industrial Alliance Stage
        o   Margaret Atwood's The Penelopiad with Meg Roe.  Oct 20 - Nov 20
The untold story of the original desperate housewife
A husband absent for twenty years, a sullen teenage son giving lip, tiffs with the mother-in-law-who wouldn't be desperate? From one of Canada's most acclaimed writers comes this fresh and witty retelling of The Odyssey myth. In Margaret Atwood's contemporary interpretation, Penelope, the long-suffering wife of the hero Odysseus, finally gets to tell her side of the story. TIX FROM $29
Granville Island Stage
        o  Circle Mirror Transformation  Sept 22 - Oct 22
Directing Circle Mirror Transformation is Nicola Cavendish, arguably one of Vancouver's most popular performers, who will bring her unique touch to the funny and poignant proceedings.
Bill Millerd, the Arts Club's Artistic Managing Director, says, "Nicola Cavendish, because of her many years as one of Canada's most inspired and empathetic performers, was the first person I thought of to direct the Canadian premiere of a piece that centres on the connections between individuals."
A sharply observed and warm-hearted comedy The LA Times called an "indie charmer", Circle Mirror Transformation is by young American playwright Annie Baker, a rising star in the theatre world. The play, premiering in 2009 to critical acclaim and winning the 2010 Obie Award for Best New American Play (her play Aliens, which premiered in 2010, shared the honour), has been winning over audiences across America. The New York Times dubbed Baker "one of the most promising new stage talents to emerge in the past decade."
Set designer David Roberts and costume designer Barbara Clayden have shared their visions for Circle Mirror Transformation on our blog. View the set model and character sketches for adult creative drama class instructor Marty (Donna White) and two class participants -- high-schooler Lauren (Emilee-Juliette Glyn-Jones) and the middle-aged divorcé Schultz (Brian Linds).
+ Roedde House Museum   778 888 2435  itsazoo.org  Oct 19 to 31
Debts, written and directed by Mack Gordon; inspired by Edgar Allen Poe, blend of live theatre, haunted house, and radio play; eight actors, 15 seats -- book in advance! $19, $15 srs/students.
+ Jericho Arts Centre   604 224 8007
        A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, Oct 4 to 23rd
+ Metro Theatre 604 266 7191 metrotheatre.org
        Making a Killing by John Nassivera Oct 1 - 29
        Broadway playwright and actress wife fake his suicide to make sure his play succeeds
+ The Cultch (in VanCity Culture Lab)   604 251 1363  thecultch.com
        Us and Them, Headlines Theatre, Oct 20 - Nov 12
+  Hendry Hall  983 2633
        The Woman in Black,  English ghost story, Oct 21 - Nov 5
+  Presentation House  604 990 3474   phtheatre.org   Oct 13 - 22
KISMET one to one hundred -- interviews across Canada of 100 ppl aged 1 to 100 re fate and destiny; here from Magnetic North Theatre Festival in Ottawa.
+  Capilano Performing Arts Theatre 604 990 7810                                       
7 Stories by Morris Panych; fast-paced, sophisticated, and hilarious play, endlessly inventive
Oct 19 - 22   www.capilanou.ca/news-events/performingarts.html
+ Norman Rothstein Theatre
         Smile, the Musical, music by Marvin Hamlish, book and lyrics by Howard Ashman
          Oct 26 - 30 tix 604 684 2787
       ~ VAG PUBLIC PROGRAMS  --  All Programs free for Members.
           ~ Current exhibition: "The Colour of my Dreams"
        ~ Out for Lunch -- Eine Kleine Lunch Musik -- Select Fridays, 12:10 - 1pm
+ Equinox Gallery -- Gordon Smith
Sept 16 to Oct 29 ~~ During the past couple of decades, the esteemed West Vancouver-based painter -- who turned 92 in June -- has produced some of his finest work.  The master of colour and paint continues to explore and express new visions in a fresh, aggressive style.  This show of all new paintings features marvellous winter forest scenes, and dense, nocturnal abstractions.  604 736 2405
+  Vancouver Opera  http://www.vancouveropera.ca/
WEST SIDE STORY --  All performances are at the Queen Elizabeth Theatre.
Sat Oct 22 (7:30pm); Sun Oct 23 (1:30pm);
        7:30pm: Tu Oct 25, Wed Oct 26, Th Oct 27; Fri Oct 28;
                                Sat Oct 29 (1:30pm);Sat Oct 29 (7:30pm)
OPENS OCTOBER 22nd!  A masterpiece of music theatre! VO presents the full-scale Broadway show with Jerome Robbins's original high-energy choreography, a 30-piece live orchestra and a cast of triple-threat singer-dancer-actors who will knock your socks off!
This 20th century classic features Leonard Bernstein's most most memorable and thrilling melodies: "Maria", "Tonight", "Gee, Officer Krupke". With only eight performances (including two matinees), this show is sure to sell out. Get your tickets now!  http://www.vancouveropera.blogspot.com/
Tickets to all VO performances for the 2011/12 season are now available for purchase: West Side Story, Romeo et Juliette, Barber of Seville, and Aida.
The bassoon has been typecast as "the Rodney Dangerfield of music" -- but it's fighting back! Find out more in this entertaining article from NPR.
Persian poetry gets the blues. Iranian jazz singer Rana Farhan has combined the verses of mystical poets like Rumi, Hafez and Omar Khayyam to the rhythms of American blues, jazz and soul. Read about it here.
For daily updates behind the scenes, photos, videos, and other special content, check out the VO Blog.  Learn about the 2011-2012 Season here.
Opera in the Community    http://www.vancouveropera.ca/opera-in-the-community.html
VO brings opera into the community through free public forums, film screenings, behind-the-scenes events, and other educational opportunities.  Join Doug Tuck, Director of Marketing and Community Events, for a free Pre-Show Talk at the theatre before each opera performance. Pre-Show talks begin at 6:30pm in the Mezzanine at the Queen Elizabeth Theatre on performance nights.
Opera Speaks in Your Community
In partnership with the Vancouver Public Library, Vancouver Opera presents its award-winning series of free public forums on themes and issues arising from the season's operas.  more...
On The North Shore
Preview lectures of upcoming operas through Capilano University's Eldercollege at the WV Seniors' Centre.
+  City Opera Vancouver   www.cityoperavancouver.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/pages/City-Opera-Vancouver/297764267658
Blog: http://cityoperavancouver.com/blog/
How To Make An Opera
On Monday 14 November, from 7:30 - 9pm, we present 'how we make an opera' to the good people of the Carnegie Centre in the DTES. We'll be joined by members of the Annenberg-Explore cast.
+  Vancouver Symphony Orchestra  876 3434  http://www.vancouversymphony.ca/ 
o  Bach, Mozart, & Haydn
8pm  Monday Oct 17   Centennial Theatre, North Vancouver
         Bramwell Tovey, conductor; Tracy Dahl, soprano
        Good   Etudes for Chamber Ensemble; Emily Doolittle   Four Pieces About Water
        Dorothy Chang   Chamber Variations; Tim Brady   We're Hardcore
               Bach   Orchestral Suite No. 4;   Bach   Cantata No. 51, Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen
               Mozart   Exultate Jubilate  ;  Haydn   Symphony No. 47
Johannes Sebastian Bach's set of four orchestral suites were written around 1725, and all are festive, fun, brilliant examples of the genre; and none are more lovely than Orchestral Suite No. 4. Bach wrote an enormous number of extraordinary cantatas, and was a master of the genre. Mozart's Exultate Jubilate is jubilant and glorious - and both it and the Bach cantata are perfect vehicles for the sweet, lyrical tone of soprano Tracy Dahl.
o  7pm Thursday Oct 20
Stradivarius Ensemble Of The Mariinsky Theatre Orchestra -- Orpheum Theatre
        Valery Gergiev conductor; Alexander Toradze piano; Timur Martynov trumpet
           Strauss: Metamorphosen; Shostakovich: Piano Concerto No. 1; Tchaikovsky: Serenade in C Major
Announcing The 2011/2012 Season!
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+  Friends of Chamber Music at Vancouver Playhouse 604 437 5747
        Tokyo Quartet, 8pm Tues Oct 18 
+  Early Music Vancouver
Early Music Vancouver offers a remarkable performance: sophisticated and satisfying, the perfect introduction to our 2011-2012 season.
o  Tuesday, 25 October at The Cellar Restaurant & Jazz Club, 3611 West Broadway at Dunbar
The launch of our Harpsichord Series at The Cellar Restaurant & Jazz club
"Hungarian Flavours" - New & Old Music, performed by Alexander Weimann
o  Friday, 28 October at Christ Church Cathedral, 690 Burrard at West Georgia
"Canticum Canticorum": Seventeenth-century settings on texts from the "Song of Songs": the vocal and instrumental ensemble Les Voix Baroques (Montreal)
For more information, please visit: http://www.earlymusic.bc.ca/CM1-FortpianoQuintets.html
        Early Music Vancouver, 1254 West 7th Avenue
        T: 604 732-1610;  F: 604 732-1602;  E: staff@earlymusic.bc.ca;  W: www.earlymusic.bc.ca
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News: Caroun Art Gallery (CAG)   ArtGallery@Caroun.com
Call for Painters & Photographers
The deadline was extended to the end of September 2011, because of the strike of Canada Post.
Each artist could send two works, 20" x 30" max size.  Subject is OPEN.
For more info, please check www.Caroun.net.
Caroun Photo Club: Meetings are held the third Wednesday of every month, 7 - 9pm at the Silk Purse Arts Ctr. Visitors are welcome. Info: www.carounphotoclub.com.
      Vancouver Int'l Writers Festival  Granville Island  Oct 18 to 23, 604 629 8849 writersfest.bc.ca
===  NATURE WALKS  === contact David Cook 924-0147 <cookeco2@yahoo.com>
>  Thursday October 20th
A free public lecture for the Botany Section of Nature Vancouver (www.naturevancouver.ca).
Title: Some unique plants of southern Oregon  Speaker: Ron Long.
Meeting location: Unity Church, 5840 Oak St, Vancouver.  Meeting time: 7:30 pm
Talk description: Southern Oregon is not that far from British Columbia in distance but geologically and botanically it seems much farther. The unique geology that is found there has allowed an unusual set of plants to evolve. The BC naturalist finds many old friends in southern Oregon but also many, often rare, new species. This talk will look at the familiar and the unfamiliar aspects of the plants, birds, animals and landscapes of this fascinating region.
Ron Long was a professional photographer at Simon Fraser University for 36 years. Now retired, he travels extensively and enjoys sharing his experiences and photographs with interested groups.
>  Saturday October 22nd
Mosquito Creek Old Growth forest: A slow interpretive hike in mountainous terrain.
An event for Nature Vancouver.
Meeting location: At the top of Skyline Drive, North Vancouver.
Meeting time: 10:00 am.  Duration: About 4 to 5 hours (including lunch beneath the old trees).
Terrain: Rough and steep along many sections. Deep-tread hiking boots with ankle support are essential. Do not wear sneakers. Wooden cross ties on skid roads can be very slippery and dangerous if wet. This field trip is for hikers experienced with rough, steep and slippery terrain. Difficulty rating is C4-C5 (Don't know how to use Difficulty Ratings? Log onto www.naturevancouver.ca and click on Field Trips)
Elevation gain: Approximately 300 metres.  Trip Leader: David Cook.
Join me for a hike up the south-east slopes of Grouse Mountain to see the Mosquito Creek old growth redcedar forest. This forest of dozens of veteran redcedars up to 3 meters in diameter is the largest remaining fragment of old growth redcedar in the Vancouver area. The hike up to this forest takes about 2 hours along skid roads. The elevation gain from the Skyline Drive parking area to the old growth redcedar is about 300 meters. Other highlights will be a separate patch of old growth Douglas-firs and a forest of Pacific yew trees, some of which are old growth.
Meet at 10am at the top of Skyline Drive which is off Montroyal Boulevard in North Vancouver.
Estimated time of return: mid-afternoon. Bring lunch and water and prepare for changes in weather.
This event goes rain or shine.
An event for the Vancouver Natural History Society (Nature Vancouver).
Registration is not required. Membership in Nature Vancouver is required after the third field trip with the society.
For information about joining Nature Vancouver refer to their website www.naturevancouver.ca.

World Smile Day 2011 October 7
Don't forget, Oct 7 is deadline for input re the DWV website.
Hope you got the PS.
First, some highlights from the Oct 3rd ccl mtg -- a marathon that went almost to 11:30pm!
After that:
Website Survey input deadline; AmblesideNOW PSB; GFOA Award for DWV; Welch Street Safety Improvements (traffic pattern changes); UBCM Heritage Resoln; Hands Off Our Lands; Steve Jobs's Personal Life; Kains vs Marley; Breaking News (ON election; Nobel Peace Prize; Archbishop Tutu's 80th Birthday); Panda-monium; Qtns/Pun {moved to end of this newsletter}
o  Oct 3rd Ccl Mtg:
PH on Kiwanis Devt closed, then three readings; virtually all in support but bizarre that they're not including small bachelor stes b/c when you have seniors with incomes $12K to $19K, their rent at about $400 whereas the new units may start at $750.  Why won't Kiwanis verify rents? and what about the few who haven't found accommodation yet?  Ccl asked Kiwanis to do their best (and gave impression they wd watch).
The agenda order was amended to have the bylaws follow rather than wait until Item 16.  When asked about having a new proposal with more small units, the Planner said that the process wd hv to start again.  Groans.  Then the Mgr of Cmnty Planning passed a note.  Turns out in the case of Kiwanis, calculations are not based on number of units, rather on FAR (sq ftg), so no need to have another PH.  Good news.
= Delegation from WV Historical Society -- excellent and good suggestions to establish WGs/Cmtes that involved similar/interested parties (such as arts, culture, heritage), IOW collaboration.  That really is the way to go so it's not one group acting on its own without regard for others.  Well done, WVHS.  [Text will be in WVM21.]
= Report on PSB; info on past, some material (but Polman's Five still not all answered); good that public consultation/input (why on earth did they not do or schedule it in the first place? it took residents' questioning to find out what had happened and the basis for some decisions).  The good news is the delay means the public can have their say starting in January.  Read the report attached to this item on the ccl agenda.
= AmblesideNOW expenditures to Aug 31
= DVP Applic for 1148 20th carried.  To my horror only when Sop referred to it as the Murrell residence did I realize with a jolt it was George Murrell's house -- I'm checking b/c we had considered it heritage.  Aimee's father (I think it was father, but it was a relative) was an early reeve or alderman in WV and her volunteering with vanDusen produced a great garden.  So I drove past after the mtg and saw it was already gone with a drawing on a sign showing it will be replaced by three houses.  The variances are for sideyards so guess it's to enable three houses rather than two on a lot that had one house with a large garden.  :-( What a loss.  Now will make suggestion b/c anxious that there be consideration of heritage value whether formally on the Register or on the Heritage Inventory or the early heritage list.
= TransLink presentation to give their pitch since the Mayors are to vote on the funding on Friday.  It was reported that our Mayor was going to support the two-cent gas increase and a prop tax wch wd result in an add'l $23 for the average homeowner (wch we all know will be much more in WV with its high assessments).  Mayor Brodie of Burnaby was on CBC saying he'd agree to the gas tax but not the property tax increase b/c two years ago the mayors had agreed not to approve any more prop taxes and there were also some funding sources not yet identified.  We'll find out on Friday.
= Pacific Arbour (Wetmore) proposed revisions approved as well as non-enforcement of the noise control bylaw (at specified times).
= Rezoning and DVP Applic for Shell Gas Stn at 1305 Marine Dr PH to be held Nov 7.
= Proposed Pk R at-grade intersection on Marine Dr -- was the surprise highlight of the evening.  As a result of changing plans by PkR, problems re replacement of the bridge, and considerable amt of public objection/displeasure, staff has taken a v bold and laudable step.  They want a re-evaluation (called MAE, a Multiple Accounts Evaluation) to review the proposal.  PkR of course was upset saying it was a precedent to overturn a decision (approval) previously made and in a vote 5 to 2.  IMO the reasoning given by the CAO and the Dir/Engg was valid.  Discussion moved it to something less of the broader study staff wanted -- just a peer review.  Smith sounded impatient (in a hurry to leave?) wanting to approve that but two things, thank heaven, brought it back to a broader review suggested by staff: Sop's emotional plea and the Mayor's shock at learning a peer review wd merely be traffic, not even take into account pedestrians or cyclists!  They recommended a WG too.  Staff won! Well done.
= DVP Applic for 1365 28th will be considered Nov 7.
= Reports, Correspondence, Other Items postponed.
= PQP: Yours Truly [YT] praised staff's suggestion for a review of the at-grade intersection [given PkR's changed plans]; asked why WG webpages missing Notes and not up- to-date; wanted to know how long a resident has to wait for replies to questions or correspondence; mused about the process for the Murrell house (considered heritage by many).   I asked b/c my questions from Sept 12th and earlier in the year were not answered Sept 19.  (One unanswered question was from June/July 2010.)
In spite of the late hour the Mayor made a few comments in response: didn't matter about the notes b/c a final report was given to Ccl; she will look into fact some cmtes do not appear on the Calendar; she does not believe staff take a long time to reply; no one had brought up heritage wrt the Murrell house.
Well, since WGs produce reports for Ccl, I don't accept Notes missing (in once case from Oct 2009 to March 2010, in another case, Parks Master Plan has no notes for mtgs held July 4, 12, 26, Aug, and Sept, IOW since June; interesting that it's the same ccl liaison) is all right if a report produced.  They all write reports!  Furthermore, without notes there's no record of who attended the mtg and/or if visiting speakers or visitors.......
~ END at 11:27 but the PH took an hour and a half. ~
AND  now the details . . . . . . . .
o  WEBSITE SURVEY   --   The M Hall says: We Want Your Input!
The purpose of this survey is to collect your feedback on the District's website and any services you would like to see added in the future.  http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=35652
                TAKE THE SURVEY!  The survey ends October 7.
o  AmblesideNow Advances the Public Safety Building
Media Release  Tuesday, October 4, 2011 - West Vancouver, BC: The District of West Vancouver continues to advance AmblesideNow with detailed analysis on the concept of a new public safety building to replace the existing police building and fire hall #1. The public safety building would house fire and police services in one post-disaster building to be constructed on the municipal site located at 17th Street and Esquimalt Avenue. By re-locating the police station from Marine Drive (1300 Block) to the municipal site, the 1300 Block of Marine Drive would be available for revitalization.
Mayor Pamela Goldsmith-Jones says, "Our Council is launching public consultation for a new public safety building. The next Council will engage with the community on this important project."
The total anticipated cost of building a public safety building is estimated at $39.5 million. The building will not facilitate integration of fire and police because of their different operational requirements, but it will result in efficiencies and cost savings to the taxpayer by maximizing shared space and infrastructure in a single public safety building.
With the report received by Council, staff will work to develop a public consultation to begin in 2012. Public consultation will focus on receiving public comment on the size, scope, design, location, cost, funding sources and timeline for the new building.
Since July 2010, substantial work has been done to evaluate the overall feasibility of the project. In addition, the Ambleside Revitalization Commission, which is comprised of expert community volunteers, has reviewed the project and is confident that it can be achieved within the current estimate of $39.5 million.
The full Council report is available online at westvancouver.ca.
o  The Government Finance Officers Association has awarded the District with the Budget Presentation Award for the 2011 Five-Year Financial Plan - Proposed Budget Book.
                         Read More: http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=36264
Welch Street Pedestrian and Traffic Safety Improvements
Tuesday, October 04, 2011  --  In consultation with Squamish Nation, the District of West Vancouver is initiating pedestrian and traffic safety improvements. These improvements will take place:  
-  along the north side of Welch Road, from the District of North Vancouver's western border to Bridge Road
-  along Bridge Road, from underneath Lions Gate Bridge to the Capilano River north of the existing Capilano River bridge crossing
The project begins October 4 and is expected to be completed in mid-December.  This scheduled construction is part of the District's 2011 Capital Project improvements. Work will include include routine resurfacing of the roadway and completion of a separated pedestrian trail on the north side of Welch Road.
Traffic Pattern Changes
Welch Street will be reduced to single alternating lanes from October 4 until October 11.
The corridor will be closed from 7:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., Monday to Friday from October 11 until the paving and pedestrian safety enhancements are completed.
The detour for the closure directs traffic north on Capilano Road to Marine Drive.
We apologize for any inconvenience this work may cause and encourage all drivers and pedestrians to slowdown and pay extra attention to the road. 
 o  UBCM 2011 Convention Resolution - Heritage
WHEREAS heritage generally throughout Canada is suffering due to the economic downturn, the loss of provincial government support in 2008 with the withdrawal of provincial funding for the Heritage Branch (Ministry of Tourism, Trade and Investment), Heritage BC, as well as community-based organizations throughout the province, means that community heritage resources are at risk for deterioration and loss;
AND WHEREAS heritage is an important asset for economic development in British Columbia as a draw for cultural tourism, one of the fastest growing segments of the tourism industry and the loss of heritage resources and the opportunity for people to experience the unique identity of communities in BC could further negatively impact on the local and provincial economy:
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the provincial government adopt Heritage BC's "Call to Renew British Columbia's Heritage" initiative by:
Adopting the Provincial Heritage Strategy, completed in 2009 but never implemented;
Restoring the budget for the Heritage Branch, Ministry of Tourism, Trade and Investment;
Resolving the heritage properties question, which includes issues related to provincially-owned heritage properties;
Restoring community support through governmental initiatives including programming and gaming funds;
Reinvesting in the Heritage Legacy Fund in order to support long-range heritage conservation work throughout the province.
The Telegraph's Hands Off Our Land campaign is calling for the Coalition to look again at proposed changes to planning laws which risk undermining the safeguards that have protected the countryside for almost 70 years. Follow the latest developments here.
                                                                         more   http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/  photos
o Steve Jobs's Personal Life
+  We've all been hearing about the wonderful things Jobs did and his remarkable influence on today's world, but what was his background?
Jobs was born on Feb. 24, 1955, to Joanne Simpson and Abdulfattah Jandali, an unwed couple who put their first-born son up for adoption. Raised by Paul and Clara Jobs, Steven Paul Jobs grew up in California and displayed a keen interest in electronics from an early age.
In high school, he met a kindred spirit in Steve Wozniak, a man who shared his passion for technology as well as practical jokes. The friendship would play a key role in the development of Apple and the career trajectory of Jobs.
+  In 1978, Jobs's first daughter, Lisa, was born - although initially he denied he was the father.
In the 1980s, he began the process of reconciling with his daughter - and learned of his birth parents.
He married his current wife, Laurene Powell, in 1991.  They would have three children together.
+  Jobs married Laurene Powell, on March 18, 1991. Presiding over the wedding was the Zen Buddhist monk Kobun Chino Otogawa.[86] The couple have a son and two daughters.[87] Jobs also has a daughter, Lisa Brennan-Jobs (born 1978), from his relationship with Bay Area painter Chrisann Brennan.[88] She briefly raised their daughter on welfare when Jobs denied paternity by claiming he was sterile; he later acknowledged Lisa as his daughter.[88]
+ More details from Wiki
Jobs was born in San Francisco[1] and was adopted by the family of Paul Jobs and Clara Jobs (née Hagopian) of Mountain View, California.[31] Paul and Clara later adopted a daughter, Patti. Jobs's biological parents-Abdulfattah John Jandali, a Syrian Muslim immigrant to the U.S.,[32][33] who later became a political science professor at the University of Nevada and is presently a vice president of Boomtown Hotel Casino in Reno, Nevada,[34] and Joanne Schieble (later Simpson), an American graduate student[35] of Swiss and German ancestry[36] who went on to become a speech language pathologist[37]-eventually married. The marriage produced Jobs' biological sister, novelist Mona Simpson; the two of them first met in 1986 as adults and enjoyed a close relationship since, with Jobs regularly visiting Simpson in Manhattan. From Simpson, Jobs learned more about their birth parents and he invited his biological mother Joanne to some events.[38][39] Jandali claims that he didn't want to put Jobs up for adoption but that Simpson's parents did not approve of her marrying a Syrian. Jandali's few attempts to contact Jobs were unsuccessful;[40] Jobs did not contact his biological father either.[41] Jandali gave an interview to The Sun in August 2011 when Jobs resigned as CEO of Apple.
        Marley lost; here's the judgment http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/SC/11/13/2011BCSC1306.htm
McGuinty wins (albeit a minority govt) a third term (not done since 1930s?).
Ontario now has a minority government. The Liberals are one seat short of a majority, according to reports. The total seat count is now 53 for the Liberals, 37 for the Progressive Conservatives and 17 for the NDP.  Counting at some polls not yet complete.  For the first time in history voter turnout was below 50%.
Friday, October 7, 2011 -- 5:13 AM EDT  --  OSLO, Norway (AP)
Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, Liberian activist Leymah Gbowee, and Tawakul Karman of Yemen have won the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee honoured the three women "for their non-violent struggle for the safety of women and for women's rights to full participation in peace-building work."
                                                  Read More:  http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na
+  ARCHBISHOP Desmond Tutu
His 80th birthday is being celebrated in South Africa.  A pity South Africa did not provide a visa for his fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner, the Dalai Lama, in time for him to celebrate with Archbishop Tutu.
o  PANDAS  --  Panda-monium in China as 12 cubs shown off
                 CBC News Posted: Oct 6, 2011 12:07PM E     http://www.cbc.ca/news/offbeat/story/2011/10/06/panda-baby-video-stub.html

===  COUNCIL MTG NOTES Monday Oct 3rd  ===
Note: At 5pm the regular Council Meeting will commence in open session (in the main floor conference room), and will be immediately followed by a motion to exclude the public....  At 7pm the Public Hearing/Public Meeting will be held in the Chamber. The (open) Ccl Mtg will reconvene immediately following the PH/Public Meeting.
5:00 PM
2. RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, mbrs of the public be excluded...under the following section of the Cmnty Charter:
90. (1) A part of a ccl mtg may be closed to the public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is one or more of the following:
a.  personal information about an identifiable individual who holds or is being considered for a position as an officer, employee or agent of the municipality or another position appointed by the municipality;
e.  the acquisition, disposition, or expropriation of land or improvements, if the council considers that disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality;
g.  litigation or potential litigation affecting the municipality; and
k.  negotiations and related discussions respecting the proposed provision of a municipal service that are at their preliminary stages and that, in the view of the council, could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality if they were held in public.
3. Council will then proceed with the closed session.

Note: At 7pm the PH/Public Mtg will commence in the Ccl Chamber. The Ccl Mtg will reconvene immediately following the PH for consideration of the scheduled agenda items.
{NB: Obviously this is 'best efforts' since I type while ppl speak.  If unfamiliar with the abbreviations, acronyms, and initialisms, pls refer to www.westvan.org/glossary and if you want to check something or listen to the whole comment/speech/remarks being made, use the timestamp to find that place on the videotape of the ccl mtg (wch is on the DWV website).}
7:00 PM
Mayor: and celebrate the great turn-out tonight!  and turn it over to Mr Sokol
Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4694, 2011; Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4689, 2011; Development Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw No. 4695, 2011; AND Development Permit Application No. 11-005 for the 900 Block of 21st Street (File:  1610-20-4694/4689/4695 and 1010-20-11-005)
The Director of Planning, Lands and Permits will describe the subject application.
Applicant: Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society of West Vancouver
Subject Lands: 900 Block 21st Street (Kiwanis Site)
Purpose: Kiwanis has applied to redevelop one of its three properties to provide seniors' low-cost housing. The proposal involves building two new apartment buildings that will include resident amenity space and gardens, new landscaping, and underground parking. The proposal requires an amendment to the Official Community Plan (OCP) and the Zoning Bylaw, which are described below.
Proposed OCP Bylaw Amendment: If adopted, Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4694, 2011 would amend Policy BF-B7 to allow for a care facility or seniors' low-cost housing to be developed at a maximum Floor Area Ratio of 1.5. The existing BF-B7 policy allows for a maximum Floor Area Ratio of 1.5 for a care facility and 1.15 for seniors' low-cost housing.
Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment: If adopted, Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4689, 2011 would amend the 'CD5-Comprehensive Development Zone 5' to divide the existing "Area 2" into "Area 2" and "Area 3".
The amendment would allow for the following within "Area 3":
* apartment buildings for seniors' low-cost housing;
* maximum Floor Area Ratio of 1.5;
* maximum Lot (site) Coverage of 45%; and
* maximum Building Height of 16.2 metres and up to five storeys.
Proposed Development Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw: If adopted, Development Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw No. 4695, 2011 would waive 100% of the District of West Vancouver Development Cost Charges (DCCs) payable pursuant to Development Cost Charge Bylaw No. 3801, 1993, for not-for-profit rental housing in the 900 Block of 21st Street by the Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society of West Vancouver.
Proposed Development Permit Application: If the Official Community Plan Amendment and Zoning Amendment bylaws described above are approved, the applicant will be required to construct the development in accordance with a Development Permit approved by Council. Proposed Development Permit No. 11-005 imposes requirements and conditions for the development of the subject lands, including:
* Two apartment buildings comprising of a four-storey building on the east side of the property and a five-storey building on the west side;
* Maximum Floor Area Ratio of 1.5 and maximum site coverage of 45%;
* 49 underground parking spaces and 8 surface parking spaces;
* Resident amenity spaces and gardens; and
* New landscaping.
Mayor Goldsmith-Jones will describe the procedure for the PH and Public Meeting as follows.......
1) Reports received up to and including September 29, 2011:
TITLE     /     DATE     /     DATE FOR CONSIDERATION     /     NO.
L. Berg and G. Boyle  /  September 1, 2011  /  September 12 and October 3, 2011  /  R-1
2) Written submissions received up to and including September 29, 2011:
To view all written submissions (including On-Table items) click here.
AUTHOR     /     DATE     /     DATE FOR CONSIDERATION     /     NO.
North Shore Volunteers for Seniors  /  September 14, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-1
H. Gaffney  /  September 12, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-2
J. and S. Bishop  /  September 18, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-3
A. Wood  /  September 20, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-4
E. Tischler and K. Masada  /  September 19, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-5
M. Brough  /  September 19, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-6
Homecare West  /  September 20, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-7
A. Morgan-Dann  /  September 19, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-8
R. Sultan, MLA West Vancouver-Capilano  /  September 21, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-9
A. Wong  /  September 24, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-10
B. Hanna  /  September 16, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-11
R. Ryan  /  September 26, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-12
E. Minish  /  September 26, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-13
The Rotary Club of West Vancouver  /  September 28, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-14
L. Anderson  /  September 23, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-15
G. Lynum  /  September 27, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-16
P. Doherty  /  September 22, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-17
D. Gilbert  /  September 28, 2011  /  October 3, 2011  /  C-18
On Sept 12, Council set the date... On Sept 16, notices were mailed to owners/occupiers within the notification area. The statutory notice of PH/Public Mtg was published in the NSN on Sept 25 and Sept 28. The M Clerk will note written submissions received for the Oct 3 PH/Public Mtg.
Sokol: and I'll turn it over to Lisa Berg
LB: Slides and then I'll turn it over to Bob Heaslip; Kiwanis Court and Manor
plan to demolish the older building; total after 300 a net gain of 86 units
OCP low-cost srs' housing, FAR 1.15 being increased to 1.5FAR; Zoning Comprehensive Devt Zone 5 for all three props; creating Area 3; four- and five-storey bldg, with 45% site coverage, 16.2m ht
[descriptions with slides] 21st entrance
wd ask Bob Heaslip as Prez of Kiwanis
Mayor: we've had presentation by staff but not procedures yet
wd like Ms Scholes's advice
Ssch: can listen to this first
BH: here with board, team ready to answer questions, and residents, some still with concerns
thank Ccl and staff to get this far; since January
reached project v balanced, met concerns of DRC
thx, help re waiver fees and charges
became involved in this four years ago; my mum lived in the Manor and enjoyed her last years so well there... joy to do this, pleasure to work, for WV seniors with low incomes
consultative process, relocated 51 understanding moving back
rental rates have not been finalized yet.
Kiwanis Court/Manor not affected, stay and rents the same; any increases, RTAct
37 moving back; 175 hopeful seniors on our waiting list
{how many from WV??? keep in mind ppl from all over the world wd be delighted to live here!}
garden village project; must and will take into account all costs [listed] to reach balance on rents
lands already paid for; mortgage rates, govt funding, work with SAFER, etc to offset rents; sought  waiver of DWV fees $800K tremendous help; this is a $19M project
know rents are a concern; Bd fair reasonable, can't guesstimate b/c too many complexities involved
Kiwanis Court is debt-free, so backup, cd remortgage to help in rent review......
bd willing to provide updates.......
Charlene and Karen are av for a short presentation
Mayor: that's adequate for now
[gave procedures; and then MClerk gave background]
Viv Christisen (sp?): Lionsview, bd mbrs here, housing did survey, 1100 (report will be released soon); seniors love living here
housing close to services, housing with no stairs, ..... close to water or nature...... want garden apt
good location and design primary reason for supporting this project
sales of old homes not kept pace with purchase
re rent, pensions, [seniors'] incomes not kept up
one person wrote working part-time, using savings, only then able to make ends meet -- unsustainable
even small increase in rent, hardship; add'n of units agreed needed
second reason, delivers scarce rental housing; 86 rental stes at low end, an achievement
third reason to support, rents at low market; we celebrate this
thank Ccl over the years, hope waive DCCs; all helps
Kiwanis provides wonderful homes for seniors.
Laura Anderson: here to read a letter from Karen Bower who lives in K Court and is unable to be here tonight.
Another aspect; urge you to vote in favour
shortly before 58th birthday, looking forward to working to 65
in recovery able to move to Lower Mainland......  fire; had to move
...... moved to K Park,..... moved into one-bedroom
process to relocate not done v well; but open to suggestions and make changes
hand up, find new; give others opp to turn lemons into lemonade
Jim McCarthy: involved in many cmnty activities
aware of good works of Kiwanis over the years providing low-cost housing for seniors
attended public info last month and became more informed of needs seniors have
WV characterized as high-income cmnty; large number of our seniors in 65 and over -- reminded me, I too am that statistic
didn't realize until last month or so that number of our popn ageing at a rate we hadn't anticipated
3,000 {but it sounded as if he said 33,000} live on $20K or less, many are long-time residents who have contributed to this 'place of excellence'; our home, don't want to move
Housing WG and Cmnty Plan -- senior housing a priority
seniors' housing differs
Hollyburn House, Amica, and (proposed) assisted living at 22nd and Marine -- serve a need for those able to afford it
Kiwanis serves a diff need; low-cost quality housing for sr citizens
need we as a cmnty need to address
I'm not a Kiwanis mbr, not eligible but do admire K club mbrs and their commitment to meet this need
urge Ccl to support
Peggy Doherty: 89; didn't think I'd be alive to be here
assisted living component; don't cook and don't do dishes
know hard to lose some of the trees; for every one removed, five will replace
if I'm happy my daughter is happy; pls endorse
[7:38] Michael Pope: ... need predicted to increase
av size 660 to 538sf incorrect; av is 670sf
515sf in past; the bachelor units av 400sf; we've been supersized
WV has run out of low-cost land; last opp to address this particular need
slightly less than $410 - $475  [7:42]
offered $750 to $820 relocated -- in NV with promise; unable to get commitment of rent
not likely pay less for a new xxx than for an old xxx bachelor unit
If, as Bob says, come back and pay same rent, no prob; my primary is that these ppl get looked after
these 35 ppl evicted with little hope of return
not for one moment think represents xxx; we need to find a way to help them
Mayor: near?
MP: two paragraphs; make a small xxx
60 to charming 95-yr old can get around; need more small units
BC non-profit housing 35% shd be bachelor's
looking at 75 one-bed, 85 bachelor's
Naomi P reading for Ivor Bennett: meetings; looking alternate accomm exemplary; way to adjust rents
Dolly Cartwright: impressed with including residents in consultation; in keeping with
some of us srs are volunteers
add'l 86 stes music to our ears; wonderful this is being brought forward
Carl Parker: friend 88 left last year; husband and friend; 16 grandchildren....etc....
Joan, life-long learner........  graceful elegant ageing in place
Gary Fenton: family background, moved to NSh 1920s, my family to WV in 1950s
talking about low cost housing [7:55]
diff for ppl to stay on NSh; add'l 86 units; great design; encourage support
Peter Gaskill: representing Pacific Arbour
fantastic Kiwanis going to add units, same as ours at 22nd; no discrimination re income; same benefits
been in this biz for 20 years, good quality, impressed; best value; too bad rents can't be stated today
know they'll be able at low
[7:59] didn't catch name of the man and PH minutes still not on DWV website: congratulate Kiwanis for what they're doing; fantastic job, wonder if doing enough
raised the issue over a year ago
about zoning; prop on 22nd classified as lot 1 is supposedly owned by Vanc Coastal Health and that bldg not being fully utilized; been put up for sale at $12M
question raised that whole block reserved for srs' housing, if that on 21st zone 1, if given back to Kiwanis wd they take it back and devp
hear wait list of over 100 ppl yet only 86 units
we don't know who owns that prop at this time, don't think VCHealth; heard First Nations; don't think Mayor or our MLA know
before approving this, look at lot 1 as an add'l opp for Kiwanis
devpr reversed its stand b/c native band put a claim on the prop
Kiwanis doing a perfect job; pity not take advantage of entire site
Bob Heaslip: we were second bidder, it is still under claim by two First Nations bands
cdn't wait anymore, waiting list growing, so went ahead; we may well be interested if available
Mayor: think the owner is VCH
Sokol: my understanding still; WV controls zoning so wd hv to comply
Mayor: prov; subject to sale, First Nations
Bob Clark: Rockridge 40 years; a lot of volunteering in cmnty, on Kiwanis xxx board
take the opp to congratulate the Mayor on service for last nine years, whatever your endeavour whether Nashville or
reference to the Mayor's performance, singing at the civic reception Friday night}
Mayor: better give him another 40 seconds!
Clark: years ago, sky was going to fall, sirens hauling ppl off, noise from srs' parties, and now most don't know it's there
on weekend watched some baseball and reminded of movie Field of Dreams -- if you build it they will come -- if we build it 175 on list; built 135 in their dreams
our mandate affordable housing for seniors
won't change as long as I'm here; volunteers working really hard
exploring avenues re funding, rates, keep rents as affordable as possible
committed to this project, our cmnty, and our residents
will proceed asap; thank you for your support and approval
Ali Shahidi: architect; living in Kiwanis Manor for two years
purpose: affordable seniors' housing
income won't be changed therefore the rent [shd be kept low]
$460 to $465 now but see increasing to $700, respectable; entire life served this country, today to serve these ppl
architect design shd respect human standards
# of parking is not responding to the demand of this project
many places in world, US, China, nowhere as low as this project, esp for the visitors
Father's Day, Mother's Day, chn come to visit -- have to go all around the area [looking for parking]
other issue is storage; all over world storage in the basement -- spare tires, etc; here, put in the ste; count storage as living area; how expect to lug it?
[8:15] Doug Maxwell: a resident of K Court, also a mbr of the K Club, am a past mbr of the K Bldg Society.  As I am a resident I'm no longer allowed to be a mbr of the Society.  Definitely these have to b be built; before, you have to get some idea what the rents will be.  They know the cost, they know the add'l av cost, maintenance -- allow so much for maintenance, it runs somewhere between 8 and 12%, depending on the type of bldg you have, also for replacement value, somewhere between 12.5 and 15%.  So they have these figures; they wd then wd know how many ppl they wd have to hire, they can put that in and have their full costs.  Divided by the number of units they will have, based on the sizes and they cd give you some kind of an idea of the rent.  They might not be able to sy $723.16 a month, but they shd be able to say somewhere between $700 and $750.  So that is what I wd Ccl to take a v good look at.
Thank you.
Dan Walsh: have an idea why needed; coming out of hospital; building our cmnty we need to pay attention to need
v much in keeping; encourage project
Mayor: anyone further wishing to speak for first time?  Then
Michael Pope: look at cost and sq ftg
Personal view, don't need the size
going ahead building these places saying SAFER will make up the difference
SAFER is going directly into the taxpayer's pocket
1400 ppl ready to move into bldgs now, if magically able to move into apts now rather than 400sf wch has proved to be adequate for so many years, wd represent a drain on the prov of $3M a year
[fewer and fewer] young ppl and more and more old to support
load on young ppl
not going to get another opp -- do we need to make all these suitable for wheelchairs?  I don't see many wheelchairs at the present time
bachelor units not for perfect for wheelchairs but for a stroller or walker okay
Mayor: third and final time, anyone else?
If there is no further public input and Council does not request a further staff report:
MS moved: ... be closed.
CARRIES [8:21]
4.  RECONVENE OPEN SESSION of the Oct 3 regular Council Meeting
Mayor: that concludes our PH and we're going to move into our public ccl mtg
I believe it may make sense to move if Ccl's interested, the Kiwanis decision to the front since we are all here, but I will convene the open session of our ccl mtg now.
just quickly ask Cclr Smith for motion to adopt the minutes
Sop or MS?: agenda?
Mayor: just get that done -- sorry?
sounded like CAO: move/approval of the agenda?
Mayor: we did that; we did that in the 5 o'clock -- try to keep up; that was three and a half hours ago
{some chuckles}
Cclr Smith, a motion to adopt the minutes
MS: vary, after adoption of minutes wch we just did
Mayor: invite ppl to speak excluding closed PHs

{These notes will be hard to follow.  I have left them as the agenda appeared but they moved 16 to now b/c it's Kiwanis and made sense to have them together.  To get the discussion you have to go to BYLAWS (search for 8:24, and it goes to 8:30 after and before, marked with *******
REALLY confusing is that fact that although the Gd Nbr item (9) is on this open regular agenda, it was dealt with at 5 o'clock as the Mayor alludes to.  That's why the agenda was approved then.
Perhaps the CAO asked about the agenda so that the public wd not think it had been skipped and cd follow?   The Gd Nbr item was quite a debate -- lasted about 40 minutes and I had to watch it on the website to get it.  It reads like a sitcom.

[5.  APPROVAL OF AGENDA  vary 16 after.....]  }

6.  ADOPTION OF MINUTES, September 12 and 19 Regular Council Meeting Minutes
Minutes to be provided on September 30, 2011.
RECOMMENDED: ... be adopted as circulated
                {you mean still not ready???  They used to be done weekly!}
Minutes provided on September 30, 2011.
=85  September 12, 2011 Regular Council Meeting; and =85  September 19, 2011 Regular Council Meeting.
7. M. Rahbar, regarding Civic Association of Iranian Canadians (File:  0055-01)
7. M. Rahbar, regarding Civic Association of Iranian Canadians (File:  0055-01)
8. R. Day, West Vancouver Historical Society, regarding Arts Facilities on Argyle (File: 0055-20-WVMH1)
[8:40] Rod Day: Rob Morris new mbr will speak
Morris: about where FBG stands
now understand you have reconsidered and will not put on that site so no need to go into that
this decision by itself doesn't address two important [concerns]
{text supplied, my bolding:
Rob Morris, Director, West Vancouver Historical Society
We are here tonight to speak to our written report opposing the Arts in Ambleside proposal.
This proposal would put a building on the site where the Ferry Building currently stands. The Ferry Building is designated as a heritage site.
We now understand that you have reconsidered the project and have decided not to put the building on this site.
This satisfies our most immediate concern. There is no need for us to state our specific objections here tonight.
However, this decision, by itself, does not deal with two important underlying questions:
1.      What is the future for heritage properties in Ambleside (and elsewhere)?
2.      Where do we build facilities for the arts?
To resolve these questions, we need to set up a way to work together so we can avoid having another conflict like this one.
We've spent some time thinking about this; we have some suggestions. In a few minutes, Rod Day will describe these to you.
Before he does, I would like to take a few minutes to emphasize a couple of points that [underlie] our recommendations:
First, I want to make a point about heritage properties.
Specifically, the Ferry Building:
1.  People often think of this as just a quaint old building that's being used for a small art gallery;
       .  There's much more to it than that;
       .  There's huge value here;
       .  The value is not just in this single building.
2.  The value is in the cluster of properties that includes the Ferry Building, the Ambleside Pier, and the Waterfront;
          .   Together these properties are an integral set;
        .  Remove any one of the components, or break the connections between any of them, and the value of the whole thing is lost;
        .  Without the Pier, or without the Waterfront site, and the physical and conceptual connections between them, the Ferry Building is just an assembly of old lumber; it would have no context;
        .  We need all the elements of this cluster; together.
3.   This cluster of properties has always been an important public place.
        .  West Van started here at Ambleside as a place to get away from the city;
        .  It became a hub for transportation, and a place for recreation and social gatherings;
        .  It is still used that way;
           .   It has the same attraction to us today that it had more than a century ago.
4.   This is not just a piece of municipal real estate
        .  This is as close to hallowed ground, as we'll ever get.
        .  The Ferry Building is a monument; it's a marker, that says "this is an important public place and it has been for a long time";
        .  We just happen to be using the monument as a small art gallery.
The general point I'm trying to make is that the context of a heritage asset is as important and as valuable as the asset itself.
Remove the asset from its context - or vice versa - and the value of both disappears.
It's like removing a bone fragment from an archeological dig. Or a cutting a single image out of a renaissance painting. The object is of no value; the whole work is desecrated.
While I have illustrated using the Ferry Building, the same case can be made for the whole Ambleside waterfront area - the area roughly between the waterfront and Bellevue, from 13th to 18th:
        It is not all designated as heritage property, but it most certainly all has heritage values;
        Navvy Jack's house is there, another building with heritage designation;
        This whole area is sacred ground;
        We must be very, very careful about any development we put there;
        And it's a place of wide public interest and use;
        It is essential that all of the interests in this area be considered before any decisions on single developments;
        This cannot be done by a group that has a single focus;
        We must resume our overall planning;
        This must be done with a focus on the whole area itself;
        It cannot be done by a single interest group that wants to use a piece of it;
        We must have a group that speaks to the whole, and the connections between the components.
We won't know where to put any project in the Ambleside area until we do this vital planning work.
Fortunately, much work has been done.
Second, and last, I would like to make a short comment about facilities for the Arts, the whole reason for this proposal:
        We support this quest; the work should continue; but two things must be corrected:
        1.  we need to have a formal, clearly defined, and public process; and
        2.  we need to broaden the meaning of "arts facilities" to include heritage facilities.
The facilities needed for arts - for display, education, and secure storage - are very similar to those needed for heritage.
We should not be competing for public resources; we should be working simultaneously, harmoniously toward shared goals.
Thank you}
Mayor: you didn't leave much time for Mr Day
RD: a lot, will be brief; like Aldrich Pears -- WV string of pearls
suggest Ccl form a WG for 13th to 18th; presently zoned resid and comm, ironically primarily on comm; wd like to see FBG reserved as park land or reserved  [8:52]
recog...; house the arts so rec therefore a second WG that includes ...  seek up a...
art, artifacts, history education
[Art Gallery] strongly recommended not be located on the waterfront -- dampness, tsunami
turned down; large art galleries shd be moved inland
a good site, cd be recruited from WVHS, PMP WG
controversy of the arts gallery on FBG; resolved
have a real opp to unite and .... goals; much loved; seek out and find best location
WGs are the best way to go about this; direct report to Ccl and xxx
{Instead of supplying the text, here is the report (my bolding) Rod gave to the directors of the WVHS just after the ccl mtg.  It contains the points made at the Council meeting, and it has add'l information -- update appreciated:
Ferry Building September 8, 2011.  Arts in Ambleside proposal to build a 28,000 square foot art gallery in two buildings on the Ferry Building site.
In mid July 2011 an arts group appeared before Council with a proposal to build a very large art gallery of 28,000sf on the Ferry Building site.  Including the Hollyburn Sailing Cub, the total size of the site is about 47,000sf, so that the proposed buildings of 28,000sf would have dwarfed the public space and would have led to the removal or destruction of the Ferry Building, dating to 1913, one of our three designated heritage sites in West Vancouver.  Moreover the waterfront site itself has great heritage value and is a public space much enjoyed by people from West Vancouver and elsewhere.  This "Guggenheim on Ambleside Landing", threatened to block views from Argyle, Bellevue, and Marine Drive, to an extent far beyond that experienced earlier by the centennial clock at the foot of 15th street.
The West Vancouver Historical Society directors decided to oppose this project and named Ann Brousson, Pam Dalik, Jim Carter, Rod Day, and Rob Morris, to speak on its behalf.  In the meantime another group, led by John Seddon, began to collect petitions against the project.  By early October they had collected over 1200 signatures.
In the WVHS meeting of September 8, Rod Day reported that he had met with Mayor Pam Goldsmith-Jones who stated that the project was for discussion purposes only.  The same thought was expressed by Brent Leigh, assistant CAO, in his remarks to the Parks Master Plan Working Group September 6.  The Mayor suggested that the WVHS group meet with Merla Beckerman and representatives of the arts group, which took place on September 19.  The group met with the Mayor the next morning, in which it was agreed that the proposal to build an arts facility on the site would be withdrawn.  The Mayor asked Rod to appear before the Council meeting of October 3 to outline our objection to the proposal and to make suggestions for possible solutions to the issue.
Rod and Rob Morris made a presentation to Council October 3.  Rob talked about the site "as hallowed ground" of inestimable value to the community.  Rod suggested the formation of two working groups, one to examine the zoning from the waterfront lands between 13th and 18th streets  (some of which is zoned commercial and residential) and to seek a suitable site for a new art gallery in the Ambleside area, but not on the waterfront.
In the Council meeting of October 3, Mayor Goldsmith-Jones announced that "a new large, waterfront arts facility is off the table".  "We have certainly reaffirmed this whole community's love of the waterfront and appreciation for councils of the last 40 years for acquisition of those waterfront lands." (North Shore News October 12) Council decided to ask Brent Leigh to write a staff report for the meeting of October 17 to summarize public input and to point the way to future planning for the waterfront and for an arts facility. }
[8:54] Mayor: speak on behalf of Ccl; willingness to provide construction [?] public comment
what came out this summer; certainly confirmed xxx; appreciation for xxx
tremendous regard for those little arts [bldgs?]
capital xxx just to keep them; important msg for Ccl
we've also recognized that a large bldg on the waterfront won't be supported
xxx ... for putting ... recogn now for an art gallery... those petition
now understand the need, and shd go in a commercial area
feedback coming on Oct 17 so timely
offering to join together; those who love the park; ensure same waterfront we have today
a constant effort; am sure lots of ppl Oct 17, and you've put us in a better agenda
wd you?
Sop: well,  about five minutes
had opp to live beside Silk Purse ... beautiful area... newcomers used to come... magical place by the water
came from inland; excitement finding this little picnic table
happened so often got on my nerves, but being a nice person...
keep jewel in our crown; spent millions to acquire land along there
sum of all the parts; quaintness, open space
that particular fine- to six-block area; nowhere else get that ambiance; so many go down there; many experiences
Mayor: are you going to thank the delegation?
Sop: yes
Mayor: not wishing to cut off; thank
RD: tyvm
[8:58] Mayor: moving to item 10
{They skip this b/c it was addressed at the Ccl mtg that started at 5pm, wch is what the Mayor says when she opens the regular Ccl mtg (but she gives neither the name or the number of the item).  They have, however, put it on the DWV website.}
9. Good Neighbour Bylaw Enforcement Appeal - 3810 Marine Drive (File:  1605-12)
                Appeal to be presented.
1. The letter dated August 31, 2011 regarding "Notice to Comply - number 1605-12 letter dated August 24, 2011 - Notice of Appeal " from the registered owners of 3810 Marine Drive, being Michael John Moody and Carole Constance Xenia Moody, appealing an Order to Comply with the Good Neighbour Bylaw No. 4380, 2004 with respect to their property, be received;
2. Council considers that the derelict and uninsured vehicles located on the property at 3810 Marine Drive, ..., as described in the report dated September 8, 2011 from the Manager, Bylaw and Licensing Services regarding "Good Neighbour Bylaw Enforcement Appeal - 3810 Marine Drive" contravene the Good Neighbour Bylaw and creates a nuisance; and
3. Council resolves that within 15 days of receiving a copy of this resolution, the owner of the property is required to remove the unlicensed vehicles and any vehicles that are not capable of movement under their own power from the Property.
Mayor: brief presentation
Sokol: Steve Simmonds, of Bylaw Services
SS: 3810 M Dr came to attention back in April through a complaint.  A bylaw officer investigated; various violations, cars, garbage bags, etc.  Signif progress, plsd, but now at an impasse wrt the vehicles stored on the property -- up to seven not registered currently, not capable of moving on their own power.  Bylaw ofcr issued order to comply wch resulted in the appeal before you.
Sop: vehicles a nuisance wd hv to be licensed to be on a prop?
if the cars had a battery in them and cd be started, wd you consider them to be derelict?
SS: I was prepared for this question.  "The vehicle has to be licensed in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act and capable of movement under its own power unless it is stored in a closed bldg or structure such that the vehicle is not visible from another parcel or from a hwy or other public place."

{My resident mathematician was intrigued by this, so looked closer at what was involved.  His comments:
But that's not what the bylaw states. To quote:

"...no Owner may cause, allow or permit the storage or accumulation on the parcel of all or part of a motor vehicle that is not:
(i)     validly licensed in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act, or
(ii)    capable of movement under its own power unless it is stored in a closed building ..."

To analyse this it helps to employ propositional calculus. To whit: "No P that is not (Q or R)" which, through DeMorgan's Theorem, is the same as "No P that is not Q and not R" which means that an Owner may not have a vehicle that is not licensed AND not capable of movement. But if the vehicle is capable of movement (regardless of whether or not it is licensed) or if the vehicle is licensed (regardless of whether or not it is capable of movement), then it is permitted under the Good Neighbour Bylaw -- contrary to the misinterpretation put forward by the Manager of Bylaw & Licensing Services.}

Sop: any vehicle on anybody's prop that is not licensed or is a hobby car or they decided not to get insurance and it's sitting on their prop it's deemed to be contrary to the Gd Nbr Policy?
SS: that's correct; wd need to be in a garage or similar structure.
Sop: out of sight?
Mayor: thank you
Ev: of the seven, how many are unlicensed?
Sop: that's not quite true.  Two of them are licensed and three are being used
Mayor: Excuse me, I don't think we're going to debate our staff
shd hear from Mr Moody and then we'll have a broad picture; he can also speak for himself
Sop: well, the statement was that the seven cars were not licensed, three of them are being driven around
Mayor: hear from Mr Moody to verify the situation.
Moody: thank you for being flexible and allowing me to come early; I'm an elderly gentleman, don't have a lot of energy
we've heard the allegations and regretfully have to say they are equally flawed.
will point out the inaccuracies
photographs to look at
{wandering around and mic not picking up}
better if I speak into the mic?
I've lived here since 1964; prop owner and taxpayer
started a biz here for a Cdn company; I prospered; I finished the last three years of my career as a biz devt ofcr for south east Asia.
you probably can tell I'm British; live in Canada by choice b/c it's one of the greatest countries in the world, especially for freedoms.
I lived through WW2; Canada in the UK greatly respected; the Cdn military absolutely revered.
a little bit of the background
Seahaven, 3810 Marine, first built in 1934, bn enlarged and renovated by hard work and good fortune, lived in it for 34 years.
we've never really had any complaints, only have one nbr who can see one car and she is a quiet 75-year-old lady.
The complaints that have been recorded to my horror, I see the history.  I resent the way it has been presented.  The complaints started when an Iranian builder moved in across the street.  He persuaded me to prune some trees, wch foolishly I did.  He caused $10K worth of damage to my property wch he refused to pay, and was subsequently sued.  He put his house up for sale.  He bought it for $1.2M, he put it up for sale for $3.9M and wondered why it didn't sell.
The reason, he concluded, was Mr Moody's car -- wch is quite rubbish b/c I know all of the major realtors and they say the house is back to front, it leaks, and he'd be lucky to get $2M wch is what it went for.
Mayor: but we'd like to focus on your prop.
Moody: you can focus; will hand around photos.
It's about .9 of an acre, a lot of area; 400ft of waterfront, 440ft of road frontage
We have 12ft of driveway access to the prop; a small area for parking, turning around
I've taken legal advice on your bylaws and they won't stand up in court.  They are subjective b/c they depend on the viewer and the viewer's opinion and they have no legal basis.
If you care to read.....
During our stay at Seahaven my estate is 'robbed' of $24K or more a year so I did feel I'd made a fair contribution to the cmnty.
I'm really not open to the opinion of Iranian builders
Mayor: we're really talking about standards in WV in general
Moody: all right
Mayor: not anything that is personal.
Moody: there's a set of photos; look at each one
how cars seen from nbrs prop -- over 50 rhododendrons, camellias, and azaleas, most of them over 20ft high.  The prop itself is more like a park; it's a bird sanctuary, a sanctuary for small mammals, and that's the way we like it.
I grow cuttings and plants in pots b/c that's what I do.  And I give them away.
Look -- I don't see any problem
This is the view from the street.  You tell me if there's a problem
There was a time with some 2x4s, 4x2s; I collect the leaves in black plastic bags, I have eight; I have bags of top soil as I'm a gardener.
Go through each of those photographs.
What has been offensively described as a derelict car is in fact a v valuable collector car.  It's a 600SEL Mercedes Benz from 1992.
You connect the battery, make sure gas, turn the key, it goes.
Every visit from the bylaw ofcer, they have made assumptions that are not correct, and as Mr Sop pointed out, I use several of these vehicles.
We are also a v private family.  We do not like any intrusion to our property; we do not like a vulgar display of wealth.  We like this house b/c from the road it looks like a little two-bedroom bungalow.  That suits us.
photo of a grey Volvo, wch I'm able to drive when I feel like it.
Each vehicle has its own purpose.
Over the long cold winter, both Mrs Moody and I (she is severely disabled), not a good gardening spring, it cd do with some more gardener attention, however gardeners in WV are now too expensive.
So there's another valuable car, Mercedes Benz 6.9 SEL from 1978, a v valuable car -- only 2000 ever made.  I cd sell these cars in as-is condition for at least $15K each.
You can't tell me a derelict vehicle.  You can come and look it.  A Mercedes under a car cover b/c we do not want ppl knowing what we have.
It's v simple.
We have suffered -- going back, the rental prop, uh, when tenants get evicted they get v difficult.  They then make verbal complaints.
Ask Ccl to pay particular attention to the use of the cell phone and a verbal complaint.
Arrive at our doorstep, had police arrive at our doorstep when tenants claim I'm assaulting them and I'm actually sitting watching TV.
the outcomes have been....on one occasion -- police actually opened my front door and came in they had no warrant, they had no reason to be on my property.  They've done this on three occasions as a result of cell phone calls.
I wd ask that you ask the Police, the Fire Dept, not to respond to these calls.
If somebody wants to make a complaint, they shd come to the M Hall, fill in a form (etc), and send to offending homeowner.
Then you might find it a legitimate complaint
Mayor: do you have anything further to add about the exterior of your prop?
Moody: the exterior?
Mayor: wch is the substance of what Ccl is here to consider.
Moody: frontage?
Mayor: the yard and the vehicles in it; that's the motion
Moody: according to my lawyer, it's recommended I go to Human Rights and lodge a complaint.
Whoever said I can't have four cars in the driveway?
there's no law saying [that]
It's an offence to me personally; they are not derelict vehicles.
Your Bylaws Dept have got it all wrong and I wd say that they have erred in their duties b/c they haven't asked the cars to be started and I haven't volunteered.
particularly found it most offensive someone wandering around the property photographing licence plates.
I told them, get off the prop
The 1978 6.9 was actually stolen from my prop one Christmas by order; we did get it recovered, by accident, but in today's age of selling information, nothing is safe.
You photograph a licence plate, there's an address, an owner, and that's where you know to go and steal the car.
Have you looked at the photographs?
Mayor: yes; thank you for coming and I'm glad we cd accommodate you
thank you for paying attention to some of the other things in the yard and cleaning that up
We really appreciate that as our staff have mentioned.
Moody: there's a certain moment in time we are too ill to do something; much as I wd like, I'm pretty well limited to an hour's physical work a day.
Mayor: thank you; have the photographs; most of us drive by your prop ev day, I know I do
Ccl -- this motion or?
Sop: put on the floor
ML: I recommend, move "as written"
[SW seconds]
Mayor: Cclr Lewis, wd you like to start?
ML: appears we have contravention of the bylaw; as I read the vehicles need to be insured, they appear not to be insured; without a battery won't start; need to be in running order
{well, you can't tell if a car is insured by looking at it except if in BC there's no licence given without insurance though I know ppl who buy the insurance, get a licence, but don't bother to put the licence on till they have to drive it; maybe waiting to get back from holiday, for instance.}
Moody: [trying to speak]
Mayor: you may not, Ccl is in debate, but if there's a question for you, I'll direct it to you
ML: from the street but probably not relevant re enforcement as the bylaw is written
ample opp to correct the situation, efforts made in terms of refuse, clippings, compost .....  so that's much appreciated but still think there's a contravention here and we need to move forward.
SW: basically agree with Cclr Lewis
maybe if proof or some effort made to insure the vehicles...make sure in running order
if driven on a regular basis, assume they have insurance, but if they don't, straightforward in contravention of the bylaw
Ev: a couple of questions
On Aug 23rd, Mr Moody said he wd have the cars removed by the 31st; wonder why that didn't happen
make obvious comment, there is a double garage
maybe question to staff, why he cd put a fence so cars further away, is that a solution?
SS: may be able to work something out wrt some of the vehicles
the prop isn't zoned as a storage lot for automobiles
main point right now, is the report from my staff is not insured, maybe one or two drivable
they're parked in the back of the yard on a lawn, not in any contained structure, the reqmt of the bylaw
yard itself is in a state that is--

{The confusion and misunderstanding over what the bylaw states continues -- the bylaw says nothing about the vehicle having to be insured -- only that it need be licensed. In BC you can insure a vehicle without its being licensed but you cannot license a vehicle without insurance. So SS misspeaks when he mentions insurance -- whether or not the vehicle is insured is of no matter according to the bylaw.}

Mayor: thank you
Ev: cd you direct the question to Mr Moody, removal on 31st and didn't happen
Moody: bylaw says 'visible from the road'; I don't want you to look into my yard
I wd like to get a pair of gates put up, however every ironwork shop is owned by Iranians and the gates cost $12K
Mayor: I'd like to put the question to you Cclr Ev asked; commitment to Aug 31st
Moody: Mercedes to go in for service but they were on holiday
gentleman who doesn't understand vehicles
much easier to disconnect the battery and then connect the negative lead, that's why the battery doesn't degrade
you need a spark and gas and they go
{I asked about this and it's true -- vehicles not being used regularly are better stored with the battery disconnected.}
Sop: bylaw officers act on complaint and that's how we set up policy; not an easy job.
when I went to see, did see attempt to clean up prop, cut down weeds.
size of the prop, almost an acre of open space to the right but the foyer is the only place to park any vehicles.
talked to Mr Moody about the two cars in the front, one drivable
really shdn't be there on an ongoing basis
talked about a gateway so ppl can't see into his prop
did see the garage, wondered if two of those vehicles cd be housed in the garage, and the two cars in front removed, put one Mercedes elsewhere.
We cherish your ability to live in that wonderful spot but when a complaint comes, it's here and we have to make a decision based on what efforts you make in spite of all those things.
I understand as a collector myself
in your view it's subjective and we have laws we have to respond to
I'm asking you if there's a way in wch we cd work together, and remove the two vehicles out on the street; you have three cars that are working -- one for you and one for your wife and another one
and then the Mercedes that are collectable.
possible to move them into the garage and third one elsewhere?
Moody: the garage is not possible b/c my Rolls Royce is there
{Mayor chuckles}
Moody: it's hidden b/c we don't want to make it obvious.
the prob with the property is that ppl look in
as I pointed out in my correspondence, a vehicle is an inert object; in itself it cannot offend anybody
it's only the use of it
we live in a throw-away society where ppl think new is best and I don't.
Moody: each vehicle will be serviced in turn
we make about three calls a week for medical assistance or go to LGH so I have a v crowded agenda
MS: am I correct, our bylaw does not allow an uninsured vehicle on a prop?
SS: that is correct; need to be licensed and registered under the MVA to be on any private personal prop unless it's stored in a structure like a garage.
{not true as pointed out above}
MS: I got conned into buying a second vehicle for my three step-daughters and they've all gone back to university and I took the plates off with great pleasure at the end of the summer, and the vehicle is now uninsured and sitting in my driveway, so I guess I'm in contravention of our own bylaws
Mayor: my son parked his car on Bowen Island, that's what Bowen Island is for
MS: we have an elderly citizen, has his own way of doing things; he's a collector of older cars
a bit unreasonable to say he can't have a couple of collectable cars on nearly an acre of land, when it's a heavily treed prop -- you can hardly see in -- and he makes a good point.  You nearly have to stop in the middle of MDr to see the cars so I'm kind of, it's unfortunate come to this stage not able to handle off-line
shd make allowances for some our citizens' own way of doing things
hesitate force of M law; signif taxpayers and generally law-abiding; don't know how to vote on this
Mayor: I'd say there's been really good progress working with bylaw ofcr
and the complaint has had a positive outcome, perhaps even for the Moodys in terms of need to do some work on their prop
to go further, continue as Sop suggested, maybe a way to reduce the numbers of cars
I agree with you, I drove by past a Volvo on MDr for a long time, not there now, you have made the entrance, the street appeal has improved
we appreciate that
Ccl cd refer this back to staff, wrt vehicles
we also do take a hard line with how ppl store their boats, trailers, pop-up tents, campers, ....etc
important to quality of life in Vancouver
so we want to aim for that, what you're suggesting Cclr Sm without being too heavy-handed, and in recognition of good faith shown so far
MS: you took the words right out of my mouth, Madam Mayor
Sop: thank you, Madam Mayor, that's more to the liking
Mr Simmonds, is it at all possible that Mr Moody cd work with staff in the next little while as to housing and/or a plan for removal or licensing of vehicles of his colln, with an understanding that's part of the law
think there's any flexibility?
Sokol: staff have been working with the Moodys for several months
what we are required to do is to try to implement and enforce the bylaws that Ccl has adopted and put in place
will work with Mr Moody, make sure insured, we may have been mistaken, but make sure all operable, but at this point our job is to enforce the bylaw Ccl has adopted for the entire cmnty unless Ccl, and we can xxx, non-enforcement of the bylaw
Mayor: make sure operable, see if limited number acceptable to Ccl, if that enough
ML: if we had seven insured operable, okay? parked off street
Mayor: think enclosure
ML: garage, see in yard sometimes in street; if all in yard?
Sokol: wd hv to report back unless Mr Simmonds knows the answer, I'm not sure if there is a limitation on the number of automobiles that may be stored on a property cuz at some point it gets beyond being a sgl-fam residence wch is the primary allowed use in the zone, and becomes a parking lot or a storage yard

{hm, we permit two cars on an Ambleside lot of less than 0.1 acres, can we forbid seven cars on 0.9 acres?}

ML: Mr Simmonds referred to another designation of prop as a car storage area, and I don't think that's what the prop is
Mayor: although there certainly are props in WV with many many cars on them
in, usually, a garage.
Ev: if we're going to defer enforcing the bylaw, there are two things
one is a commitment from Mr Moody to make a greater effort to correct, what we consider to be wrong with the cars
those photographs were taken somewhat selectively
secondly, if we were to do that, defer decision, whatever, three months if acceptable, and automatically comes back to Ccl for final resolution.
Mayor: are you making a deferral motion then?
Ev: okay
Mayor: I'll test it out -- on Moody to comply
SW: okay
TP: trying to find a compromise and soln
first is just screening from the street
haven't been to your prop so is it possible to have the cars moved further in so a) not visible from street and b) some of the cars you can move
SW: don't want to support deferral b/c staff's been working on this for months
great you like to collect cars but does look like a parking lot
have to respect nbrs and the cmnty, and if there's been complaints, looks like for the last seven years; at some point you've got to make a decision having staff work on this, only two bylaw ofcrs
Sop: the deferral is to give Mr Moody time
Mayor: suggestion is three months for Mr Moody to continue working on this, come back to Cl, and a decision will be made.  Okay?
call question:
three months, insurance issue, operability, storage, screening from the street, and we'd be prepared to reconsider this.
tyvm everybody
Moody: question; none of my vehicles occupy the travelled way, the two parked outside are in a little parking area that been there since 1934 and we feel it's been grandfathered  -- there's a little sketch--
Mayor: Mr Moody, we're not going to be able to work this out now cuz we're in a public ccl mtg, so--
Moody: why acceptable to have 15 or 20 cars parked along MDr, some of them on your minuscule road allowance, and 15 to 20 actually on the travelled way, and why is the boat and the jeep parked up against the fire hydrant permissible when this attention comes to me?
Mayor: why Ccl has allowed another three months, to be fair
really app you were here helped in decision, look forward to working out a soln for you
Moody: I'll work along with you but going to question the veracity of the complaints that you get
Mayor: not what we're here to do, at the moment; we've taken it seriously, and so have you by showing demonstrated improvement on your prop; we're v happy with that
Moody: I cd get complainer into court, have him questioned by my lawyer adviser
Mayor: that's your private biz; thank you
Motion to adjourn or recess?
SSch: adjourn to closed session
Mayor: carried
SSch: on basis of sections a, e, j, k
-------- now back to the regular ccl mtg
10. Public Safety Building (File:  0500-01)
[8:58] Mayor: Ccl is recognizing the police and fire bldgs ageing and...
Japan and NZ
looking for ways; wish to put in front of public solely or together; done a lot of homework this year
present tonight so consultation can begin in 2012 so next Ccl can xxx
CAO: report, signif amt of work over past year; core information
also wish to point out Chief Cook and Lepine recogn xxx
does not recommend integration rather xxx
not new xxx police and fire; that police and fire cd share; not any optional elements
58K gross area $35.5M -- estimates, will be confirmed
are add'l cost efforts confirmed by staff, UBC Props Trust (devpd for UBC)
ARC, resident volunteers experts in xxx [9:02]
believe can be funded by sale of M land
any sale into End Fund then best way to xxx

Why sell land for a bldg that will deteriorate and need to be replaced?  Then have to find funds for replacement -- sell more land? we'll run out!
Even leasing not wise -- lease for 100 years for a bldg that will only last 50?
Some cclrs have even said building "at no cost" to the taxpayers b/c selling land.  NO!  That IS a cost!  We're losing assets!  Like raiding our (land) piggy bank!

all matters decided in 2012 after
estimates not set in stone; even whether a new bldg warranted; size and cost
will set the agenda how move forward
Fire Chief Jim Cook: WV's Firehall No 1 is 50 years old and does not meet our needs
unlikely wd remain standing; failure of supporting walls and xxx
wd compromise life-saving; must consider major upgrade
PSB presents an opp to address this in context of a larger plan
prescribed in BC Bldg code; seismic issues, emergency services, power outages exp on N Sh
looking for help and authority; a new bldg wd help us to keep operating when need highest
must remain functional; first responders' equipment protected to utilize as command post
other benefits; shared HVAC
imp that a firehall be located in Amb area -- highest in all NSh 75% of all, 65%, 50% of all health; less than four minutes; [NOT?] moving out of Amb area
already work well with police on a daily basis, respond  [9:06]; support colocation.
Mayor: joined by Deputy Chief {Police}
JIm Almas: worked in this bldg for past 31 years; 105 employees; major infrastructure challenges; likely to fail or collapse in a major .... event; occupy after a disaster
disruption, considerable cost; sewer pipes; dry wall; mould damage often
detention facilities substandard and no longer meet prov standards
xxx  also incur; work in a bldg in a constant state of repairs; no overall safety for employees
supports joint PSB on the M Hall site; excited about moving forward; no doubt better and ....
particularly those dept we work with on a daily basis, fire and bylaw
..... achieved; economize on economy of scale,  HVAC
as we wait for this exciting ...; will continue to draw on resources; symbolizes a signif investment ... support overall well-being; as well a cmnty we serve on behalf of xxx and xxx
wish to thank moving forward on this important
Mayor: final by Howard Nemtin [ARC mbr]; expertise on projects of this size
HM: so many involved; Commission plays a slightly diff role
committed to ...... hesitate to say experts but experienced; give a fairly dispassionate view
touchstone; have to be financially prudent; due process, have to plan; eye on the budget
been our pleasure, five cmnty volunteers, with ~150 years of devt
enjoyed a process working v closely with groups; bn a v comprehensive and detailed process; try to eliminate the unknowns
$35M devping over about nine mos; optimum space required; what's going in
trying to provide Ccl with a level of comfort; no major red flags; take our jobs seriously; not paid, do get free coffee from time to time; provide staff add'l to staff
understand we may be called on to continue; thank you for the opp of being involved

{does this mean ARC has been terminated? or just on hiatus, cd be called back?}

look forward to a successful conclusion
[9:14] TP:  xxx
Sop: in the event of prov going prov-wide police, wd it still be nec to have pol xxx
JA: going to need a facility on the NSh; work with RCMP but in order to service WV has to be one here
Sop: in one bldg, advantages; if we look at this, no cost to taxpayers, there are other conclusions

{not NO cost the way presented here! -- as I explained above}

maybe using some spaces in the PSB; specifically want you to inform me; what's being shared and what savings
CAO: started this as a vision
brought in Cornerstone, looked at xxx; looked at what MHall does, Police, Fire No1
then took that out to 26
any growth...  advantages of having one bldg, we have one xxx shared mtg place, shared parking, shared lunchroom
on one bldg, advantages other capital and operating
Sop: not too many years ago we did do upgrading of No 1 hall, not sufficient?
Jim Cook: the upgrades were to accomm one of the larger vehicles so vertical load but not horizontal
Mayor: Cclr Panz, wd you like to make
TP: excellent report, look at p 41 [?]
thank Cclr Smith and our Mayor
moving to 2012, look at that piece, time to move on; don't want to defer
looking forward to whoever's on Ccl engaging the public
MS: not much to add; Panz said well
for the price of substandard coffee; excellent expertise, v fortunate; think process has been a good one

{hm; not the impression he gave when ARC was pushing the $3.1M that even Cclr Walker called 'exorbitant'.  What's changed?  Anyway, better process now being debated b/c public -- at last -- will have say starting in 2012.}

been trying to tighten up all the unanswered questions
now look to public comment, think it's going to be an exciting time
ML: both Panz and Smith mention public consultation
been confusing; reflects on us
we have to spend some time, getting the data and not based on I think, she thinks
think we're starting to get that
{"he thinks"! :-) }
new year, gives time to frame the question, options; come to those sessions; ideas
think we'll have a better project at the end
want to thank the Amb Comm, know they've given consid or their expertise, UC lands trust
{again implying ARC terminated?}
encourage ppl to review this doc and look forward to next year
Ev: ... points where the public can be engaged
somewhat disappointed with 'next steps'
two observations -- seem to be putting this into a cocoon for next six mos
unfortunate, report back early in 2012, it's Oct we've still got three months
recog Nov election but ongoing, what's early, Feb, Mar?
shd be an ongoing process; huge connect between what we're doing here and on the 1300 block
we're pushing out
aiming to move police stn 1300 block we're pushing out four years
how long? suggest we accelerate this consultation process
Sop: first, I disagree; shd go through process
congrat Comm; area I look at now; diff figs, info
vital we put this before the public; size, etc, imp consider
this is the right process; will take to Jan to get an architectural rendering
not make any swift rash decisions including on the financial side
thx particularly to Mark Chan, who's given his all; we're in right direction
SW: I'm going to support Cclr Ev
not a surprise; had hoped a shovel this year; do question another three mos
we've been talking about this since we started three years ago
give a lot of xxx had to be done
wd hate to see derailed while waiting for a new Ccl to come in; some semi- ...
I'm frustrated by xxx; ... before roof falls in
Mayor: xxx we cd change..... wch will begin in early 2012
it's v difficult to have a townhall mtg in Nov; public not sure who leaders will be
maybe if Mr McR gives some dates; give some confidence pushing forward but not leaving....
CAO: when we looked at number of mtgs left; new Ccl sworn in Dec 5
we are working on it now; we have v good material and info now; believe we have info public will understand;
{then why not give it out asap???}
don't want to rush
{well, you haven't been!  lots of delays (not that that's wrong; good to be cautious)}
want cmnty -- do hope they challenge
we can come back to Ccl with some ideas; our concern is that a new Ccl might want to change it
{perfectly valid reason to wait for new Ccl}
if want to ... working on it right now
Mayor: intent is that the process begins [sic] early 2012
1. The report titled "Public Safety Building" be received for information; and
2. Staff bring back a public consultation process to Council in early 2012, including a Public Open House regarding the Public Safety Building project with questions for the community to consider including: size; scope; design; location; cost; funding sources; and time line.
11. AmblesideNow Expenditures to August 31, 2011 (File:  0500-01)
        RECOMMENDED: ...be received for information.
Mayor: Cap U with their ....students have been here with their
observing democracy in action
12. Development Variance Permit Application No. 11-025 for 1148 20th Street
(File:  1010-20-11-025)
At the September 12, 2011 regular meeting Council received the report dated
August 31, 2011 regarding Development Variance Permit Application No. 11-025 for 1148 20th Street and set the date for consideration for October 3, 2011.
Reports received up to and including September 29, 2011:
Devt Variance Permit #11-025 (1148 20th St)   August 31, 2011  September 12, 2011/October 3, 2011
Written Submissions received up to and including September 29, 2011:  None to date.
Geri Boyle: a corner-flanking lot; boxy house
{G&Gordon left [9:31]}
asked for variance wrt sideyard
lot is small so being built to max FAR
site coverage of 28%, not 40%; design elements, quite modest, but xxxx
Sop: had a look at it; variance a lot b/c three and can hardly stand two
GB: it was a house built across two
Sop: any mntnce?
GB:: separation is 1.55m adequate to go in?
Sop: 3ft?
GB: 5
Sop: from?
GB: access further down
Mayor: applicant av?
Mark H: I'm Mark Hedecott [?]
Mayor; I'll call for public input now
{didn't catch name}: I live across street; objections, one on nbrhd level and a personal level
wrong place; brings home nearer to street; it's a v narrow street
{Mr Allan?}
20 to 25 ft when av size is 60ft; it's a v busy street; school; v busy, gridlock
parking has also been an issue; concerned about guest parking; exacerbate
as for nbrhd characteristics, not fitting frontage 15ft from curbside
two such variances have been granted 11th and 14th; both where plan to allow for a higher level of density
house listed on the H inventory

{hm, first time this was mentioned!
am researching this.  Queried staff who said 1148 20th was not on the Heritage Inventory.
Did more digging.
Surprise!  its former address (Capt George Murrell's house) was 1991 Inglewood -- wch wd hv bn immediately recognized.  The adjacent lot to the east is 1981 Inglewood, and west is 2000 block.
Yes, indeed 1148 20th is not on the H Inv, but 1991 Inglewood definitely is (as the Downing House).
Games being played?}

I live directly across the street
in our home or on our prop; will loom over our home and affect our privacy
in summary, feel these bylaws are there for a reason, a mere 15ft not in fitting with [9:38]
20th is a narrow; bus route, arterial, bringing structure closer, exacerbate loss of privacy and enjoyment of nearby homes
Mayor: don't
Sokol: no
SW moved:THAT all written and verbal submissions ...  be received for information.
SW moved: THAT DVP Application for 1148 20th St, which would allow for a new two-storey dwelling with basement to be constructed, be approved.
thought it was quite xxx
was your house on 20th is your front facing
Ans: side onto 20th
SW: form and character suited nbrhd, don't think a 3m variance is all that bad
based on staff report cd be built wd be overwhelming
Ev: reiterate what Cclr Walker said
it is a narrow street but whether we approve this variance to the frontage, the street remains the same so don't see for that reason, has signif
Sop: when I went to the site today, saw house -- large front lawn, then realized for this
This is the old Murrell residence; the growth on the corner to be retained?

{Here's where I gasped.  It's listed as primary on the H Inv.  Decided I had to ask about it at PQP. There's supposed to be notification is a heritage property receives a demolition permit so that incentives and options can be offered to see if retention possible.
Heritage WGs/cmtes terminated more than a year ago; this primary site demolished without warning; GLH facing demolition; civic reception the same night as the Heritage Society of BC's annual awards ceremony; ....
'Tis to weep.}

GB: yes
Sop: think the house approp for the size
nice access a long lane so will be in support

{so, he gives no weight or consideration to the heritage value?  At least he mentions it.  The nbr did but wasn't in presentation.
Someone has to look at how WV treats heritage -- can we hope for more than the word? or the same meaningless mantra as openness?}

CARRIES [9:42]
13. [TransLink] Presentation (File:  0185-39-06)
                Presentation to be provided.
Mayor: this Friday, Mayors' Ccl will be voting on.....
TL: know long evening v
joining us is Jack Frost; long range planning
no new dollars; expecting $3 to 4M xxx
SLIDES  [9:47]
signif capacity issues
had 5M trips and today 6M today; commute times little change in a decade
believe a direct result from investments we've been making
224M transit boarding, this year 340M boardings had been helping
Canada LIne has made a difference
LGB 2% buses and carry 28%
Evergreen Line an extension of ALT, out to Coq; Mill -- $40M of the $70 but the $30 help with immed needs; want to see Seabus ev 15min all day -- reg service all day and all weekend long
dealing with system that is ageing; also looking at Lonsdale Quay
looking at ~20M more transit rides SLIDE
equivalent of pulling about 70M vehicle rides (?) [9:51]
Since 1950s av amt of travel increasing year after year
with this investment in place will see a reversal, a decline in distance travel
going to be bringing back;
Major Road Network; carries a lot of goods; cut back now add xxx; cut back 3M get back up
Skytrain touched on this; Evergreen line extension not just connecting Coq and Bby -- will run to Millennium; adding 28 more cars; help expand the network
rapid transit investments
stations are imp to us; [SLIDES] need to b upgraded, accessibility, looking at Lonsdale Quay
more bus service on MDr, more going over bridge
SLIDE of what Lonsdale Quay will look like; improvement in station access
This plan looks at leveraging over investments $2.24B
sr govt dollars; fuel tax will cover 21%; increase in fares xxx 16% addn new rev 13%
Consultation -- launched on this in 2010; new funding agreement in July
Does support livable regions plan; prudent on fiscal side; will not invest unless sustainable in future
Mayor: noticed prop taxes conspicuous by absence, wch is of concern; but no new
Ans: use the prop tax for two years 2012 and 2014 if needed, not beyond that
if took more time to find alternative; will be v prudent
[Mayor: need motion to extend beyond 10 o'clock
want to build on
decision mayors will make on Friday
fought for, with prov; no new on prop; wd not participate beyond $400M and seen prov go to $800M; glad you're here
so much is behind closed doors wch neither I nor the other mayors agree with
principles ...  driving to achieve long terms sust funding
Sop: recently at Pinnacle Hotel had a xxx with you; xxx part of that discussion
Ans: this funding pkg wd enable some to be put in place
Sop: so that's an improvement
some equality for the millions of dollars gone into the other side of the water; for what we have given back; xxx
[9:59] Ans: NSh plan
some we'd like to see; seabus improvements in time critical for those who live on NSh
Jack Frost: overcrowding along Lonsdale, looking to improve those standards
Sop: I was around when it first started; adamant not happy with prop tax
taken flak and xxx; for much we've been angry about, way thank you for your hard work
ML: thank you for coming and moved received for information.
14. Pacific Arbour Residences at 22nd Street and Marine Drive - proposed revisions to the Approved Design Development Package; and a request for an Order of Non-Enforcement of the Noise Control Bylaw to allow Section 6.1.2 during the concrete pour stage of construction (File:  1010-20-10-040)
GBoyle: brief presentation
Mayor: and Ccl has slightly diff wording
GB: phases;  SLIDES: top part is what has been approved and bottom is the revision
previously rooftop terrace and now a green roof with small area
signif design change, staff strongly supportive
residents opps to enjoy in other parts of the bldg
22nd and M Dr; grading required small retaining or planing wall
applicants pushed here, pulled there, and adjust the grading so much more friendly streetscape; slight change in angled
third change, steel ribs facing west side of frontage to terrace area; strange; architectural feature -- will keep green features but steel ribs removed here
over BBQ area; glass covers so can be taken adv of
saw cutting of P2 slab; have to pour then cut and as one piece of work so adding for non-enforcement so poured in bits
ea floor is concrete
worked with the applicant and given them less than they requested
first part of pours then rest till 10pm; total of 26 occasions to deal with power troweling
sp notice to the residents re saw-cutting
whole team is here to answer
here is the whole rendering of the bldg -- slide picture
Sop: any over dust?????
GB: will ask construction team
Russell Hobbs, mgr and xxx Ventana our Bby-based
RH: dust, with spray at same time so shdn't be prob with dust; trowelling generally wet
Sop: question wrt noise
Ven: yes, wd be the sound of one lawn mower working
up the wall at street won't be decibel
Sop: till midnight?
Ans: yes
Sop: often?
Ans: four occasions xxx [10:09] can't give exact dates, not possible
Mayor: if Ccl has alternate wording
B1 says until midnight Mar to May
GB: originally was for all 26 occasions and we felt as weather got better, up till midnight till March 31st
Mayor: thought I heard ten
Ans: xxx quite large so have to pour in large
were hoping to have as many as possible to midnight, Geri's broken us down
four locations concrete cutting, cured troweling and cut
timing of the xxx; do need till midnight; diff sound, trowel
only for x have to stay; that's the month
Mayor: so what we have in front of us is in line with
MS moved:  THAT
1.  The proposed revisions to the May 16, 2011 approved design development package for the Pacific Arbour Residential Communities development, at the northwest corner of 22nd Street and Marine Drive, described in the September 19, 2011 report from the Manager of Community Planning, be approved;
2.  The request from Ventana Construction Corporation for an Order of Non-Enforcement of the Noise Control Bylaw No. 4404, 2005 Section 6.1.2 for certain work related to curing and finishing concrete construction of the Pacific Arbour Residence, as described in the September 19, 2011 report from the Manager of Community Planning, be approved as follows:
1.  on four occasions for saw cutting the P2 on-grade slab; and
2.  for finishing via power troweling until midnight from March 1, 2012 to May 31, 2012; and
3.  for finishing via power troweling until 10 pm from June 1, 2012 to December 31, 2012.
3.  Ventana Construction Corporation to notify the local area residents, 7 to 14 days prior to commencing the concrete pour phase of construction, that this phase is starting and that limited work outside normal working hours will take place.
hopefully gladly
Everyone on Ccl wants to see this move forward so have to accommodate 10:14
Ev: the design changes, we've both sat in (SW) in all Design Rev mtgs and all consistent with the cmte
15. Rezoning and Development Permit Application No. 1010-20-10-035 for 1305 Marine Drive (Shell Gas Station) (File:  1010-20-10-035)
TP: I will move as written THAT
1.  Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4680, 2011, for property located at 1305 Marine Drive (Shell Gas Station) attached to the report from the Senior Community Planner and the Manager of Community Planning dated Sept 22, be introduced and read a first time in short form;
2.  The M Clerk be directed to give statutory notice that a Public Hearing... is scheduled for Nov 7...;
3.  Proposed Devt Permit No. 10-035 attached to the report from the Sr Cmnty Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated
Sept 2 be considered concurrently with the Zoning Amendment Bylaw; and
4.  The public be given an opportunity to provide comment on the proposed Devt Permit attached to the report from the Sr Cmnty Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated Sept 22 at a Public Meeting held concurrently with the PH on the Zoning Amendment Bylaw.
16. Proposed Park Royal At-Grade Intersection on Marine Drive (File:  1785-22)
Mayor: some to speak but will have presentation first:
CAO: discussion over past year; almost a year ago today
in anticipation, Pk R has been working with the Sq Na and Design Panel
xxxx refining the proposals; PkR 's response to Village
presupposes approval of the intersection
wrt overpass, Bunt attempts to predict x and y [10:17]
changes over the year
xxx changed; White Spot initially but changed xxx etc
in front of the Sq Nation design Panel
staff only recently received Sept 15...
thought only xxx review, will be requesting....
some, need more info
do not clearly indicate sidewalks; ref to xxx
some trees removed, don't know what replaced with; proposing future devt on North
the ccl resoln of a year ago authorized me as CAO subject to 'confirmance'
for past year, staff has been working with the two design panels
major role, major taxpayer; major expansion on the south side
while on Sq land, M has no legal xxx however working together
highest quality and adds xxx to
105Ksf only part
future devt
staff and two design panels trying to xxx that that is
two design panels -- pedestrian cycle landscape xxx and how fits with master plan for entirety
know removal of overpass, will create two xxx [10:21]
coming early in 2012 high rise on White Spot
another tower south of xxx, xxx
prov and fed govt plan a xxx
Dist staff share the two design panels' concerns; refine
we/I do not believe the future impact
multi-discipline review -- multiple account evaluation
a WG
a multi-jurisdictional review
also Sq Nation and Larco
relnship has come a long way, co-op of two
do not support our Des [?]
talked about WG, our orig
needs to be broadened and more focused; like to turn this over to Peer Review and we prefer xxx
Mayor: engrs?
RF: peer review wd be
Mayor: what does the broader one encompass?
RF: just a technical review wd not change the conclusions
delay might be a delay a few seconds more
wd be v surprised 180=BA change of what's coming out of model
benefits -- some PkR and some District at large
impact or benefits to vehicle/pedestrian, emergency responders
believe the challenge is to balance these objectives
xxx best met by a multiple account evaluation [MAE]
a District-led, wd involve Larco; so in best interests of cmnty at large
Ev: in hindsight, why didn't we do this a year ago?
Mayor: don't want to get into discussion yet, that's kind of broad; ppl wishing to speak; if eval
beginning with Art Phillips
AP: Dir of Devt with Larco; largest taxpayer $1.8M and employees 3000+
xxx  a bit confused xxx
staff seem to be proposing to reevaluate prev decision
Ccl voted on Oct 2, 5 to 2 to remove
numerous mbrs of public spoke in favour 4 to 1
fire, xxx; solicit more consultation; Dec 6 overturned
PkR's only remaining req was to [10:28]
we've worked diligently to..... believe we've met all requirements
design team have submitted plan
we have met on two occasions with Design review and satisfied
in favour of peer review
xxx Bunt & Assoc
wrt master plan we have submitted, been open; yes, made modifications in past year
on p3 of staff report; peer review
feel will justify; as proponent wd expect to pay cost of peer review
any prior to xxx
not the case here; need for the intersection
DRC re findings of Bunt
ignores Ccl decision; xxx ...  overturned by staff [10:30] -- unacceptable precedent
we've had 18K visitors
expansion on retail component, took place in June and July
respectfully request honour spirt of the letter, reject staff
Mayor: certainly staff's prerogative to come back to Ccl if disagree
Bill Park: third time I've been here; in favour
imp prior decisions of Ccls are followed up; hope
Gabriel Lauren: on behalf WV Chamber of Comm incoming Chairman
in support; many merchant mbrs; same approved; hope will accept; hope go through
Mayor: no one further to speak
Ev: will make motion so can ... or amend
Mayor: your prerogative
Ev moved: THAT
1. Council support a [District-led] process to review the proposal through a Multiple Accounts Evaluation (MAE);
Mayor?: shd include Sq Nation and   [10:34]
Ev: not to contradict you but wd like to know more about peer report
RF: ccl made decision to xxx to CAO
since then many letters from mbrs of public and showed to be counterintuitive to intersection
exacerbated by Blue Bus; saw problems with signal intersection; felt wd be made worse by PkR activities
in Aug notion of technical peer review
staff tried to consider best way of moving forward
at v least is how to balance motoring public and other xxx
felt conducting MAE
changing and iterative PkR plans
DRC, Sq Nation
Ev: my second question, maybe in hindsight, why didn't we go into this detailed review 12 mos ago
CAO: when Ccl delegated CAO approve this project in principle in xxx with standards
not an engr
between dogs and trees
one of the problems, it's counterintuitive
when confused, as I have been on the continuing changes to Pk R -- they've continued to refine -- devt proposed will have a fundamental impact on WV
I don't run shopping ctrs and my resp is to manage Ms
look at that drawing behind you, shows xxx but does not show the three pads on the north, does not show new xxx, or new theatre, nor towers nor south perimeter road
look at all this
xxx  Pk R is a major supporter of our cmnty
but I really have diff working with planning and engg xxxxx
[want] something whole cmnty can support
simply a peer review or xx , ppl simply don't understand it
ensure relnship with Sq Nation; now working with Sq N design never happened before; working with PkR
trouble to sell this; going through this process; as with PSB done a lot of good work; come a long way
why didn't we do this last year?
1) we didn't see the changes
2) PkR done a lot of
3) this will impact our cmnty
[10:41] may take time but brought the cmnty along with us
{good; brave and bold}
Sop: don't think we have any firm conclusion what that xxx will look like in 25 years; nor Pk R or Sq N
we spoke to Rick Amantea on Saturday night; prob with bus lanes; I think this plan is a benefit to PkR -- gone to xxx
how can we best approach this?
village-like atmosphere; EvDrive on renewal
consistency of amt of traffic coming down corridor; imperative we go through a timeline; all-inclusive
can say we took into consideration everything
three lanes, three-lane bridge; this might take a few months but xxxx; good xxx
ML: when it first came, it was counterintuitive
anybody saying  putting in a traffic light making easier east to west
same question, reside list.....
how many accesses to MDr?
if level crossing, need another at Pound Rd
staff propose, makes perfect sense; maybe sense with more data; xxx that and be v supportive
MS: hardly know where to begin
can't support motion as it stands now b/c no time lines
had applic; endorsement by police, fire, blue bus, Ch of Comm
virtually ev living breathing, traffic endorsed
I don't know anything about traffic; don't like it; intersection at TWay clearly dysfunctional
xxx Village
need another left-turn lane into that Village
cd vote against all the experts if I heard one plausible reason to do so and I never did
certainly not unsympathetic to cmnty consultation and process, agree important, in the sense of fair play at least have to bring some closure

{btw, in conversation with a resident I said no left turn needed going west from the LGB.  We go through and turn right into PkR N, drive to the west overpass wch go overs to PkR S near the Village/Whole Foods!  no delay, no left turn, no light, easy!  What's the problem?}

a year, had hearings; Ccl passed; engg drawings come forward; Design Review to peer review
throw it out xxx
if pass at least have District-led, consult, peer review Bunt at least if Pk R pays for it see if data makes any sense
shd say this shd happen in next X days/weeks/months
put matter to rest; nothing against public process; need to say to PkR to this date
done our due diligence, public another kick
ev person in the biz, ev recommended it, NSh Disability Ppl
let's tighten this up; either approve this intersection or tell PkR to build a tunnel
has to come to a conclusion
Mayor: step two and
MS: have a firm date; have an endorsement of intersection or another recommendation
TP: completely agree with that long-term thinking
if not an intersection what wd work there; w/ that road wd an intersection still be a viable option?
RF: staff report suggests an MAE looking at existing with overpass and a signalized at-grade intersection
TP: the hierarchy we adopted, puts ppl first then buses so if I apply that to it, not status quo b/c not dealing with........
know it's a lot smaller
intersection at 15th and Mathers handled it well; can I extrapolate, a leap?
x has value here? maybe that's what we're looking at
my concern as Cclr Smith, don't have a long time
{till the election?}
report, fairly comprehensive process; drawn into future?
we shd be trying to have those relationships anyway; making sure we develop; both design rev
felt comf when I first voted, and still am, but prepared to have a peer review
not fair to have something drag on a long time
SW: Cclr Panz's point, everything takes a long time

{Cclr W is used to fast efficient biz; not govts......}

one little change by MOT caused a massive change
one intersection can make a massive diff to the whole traffic flow


although support from Blue Bus and Fire
to take into all this new devt, wasn't on the xxx last year; 200Ksf devt really changes
maybe go forward and say leave the overpass in case we need it

{good point}

support MAE b/c
on same, timeline not drag out to next Nov
CAO: passed a year ago, then a number of changes
intersection -- we don't know where Perimeter Road will come out
Marine Dr
devt on south side will curtail the Perimeter Rd
in 2.1, review shd be completed by April
Mayor: have to give PkR credit for Spirit Trail and bus lane and
also PkR is interested in PkR; Big Box
way better off
this comes -- a bigger picture and serious;
low level road represents ... related to what PkR proposing ... to devp openly we shd know
take down overpass, and shops go in those spots
met with PkR; diff towers and diff locations; unease xxx; big resp
for sure the public in WV is going to be on it
in keeping with Cclr Smith's step by step to bring into full view what PkR's plans a
limited jurisdiction
know what ... go back to DR recom, peer review and back to sus asap; not narrow; surely professionals going to look at the board
RF: offer of PkR funding the peer rev was a generous but one of the points staff was going to respond to
proponent funded the Bunt in the first place
perhaps District wd be funding just to obtain objectivity so felt District's money, MAE
however if PkR peer--
Mayor: I wd suggest our process and they pay
Sop: I'll be blunt and then
peer review for PkR's gain
much success with Village and ... have you considered revamping overpasses?
all the time I worked at PkR, revamp
imperative, consideration have a serious look at overpasses; as alternate or viable source
now we see bushes higher than ppl, some near misses
expansion of PkR and xxx dangerous
welcome you great xxx patterns
but must be some consideration about the three lanes in and out; it's split
McRadu's right, until lower crossing this is a rush to judgement
xxx behooves us; with Cclr Lewis didn't bring a notice of motion
WV residents need to be xxx
[11:03] might or not, but for you
TP: to follow up on peer review on work already done by Bunt or this new devt on that site
RF: latest take in, assumptions, percentage of Village expansion, cinema in plans, two towers, 450 to 500 resid units in back; near-term scenario
regardless of where you put but xxx taken into consideration
Ev: as a follow-on, so the Bunt parameters have changed?
the report we received a year ago -- you're saying the model has been changed but we haven't seen it?
RF: a lot of work, staff working with PkR, since Aug 2010; didn't seem to coincide xxxx
take in Sept when back to school; factor and that was finalized in Oct last year; decision made later on in 2010
Mayor: shd take a vote, then xxx, and if that cd be completed by Feb???
SW: narrow in scope; app'd re CAO report, takes in all the players
if we're going to delay this, shd do it properly
Mayor: peer review of intersection taking into account xxx
RF: Bunt takes into consideration some seen in last couple of months
if peer review, wd indeed be a technical review
perhaps we cd have from MoT, Sq N, PkR at same time
technical peer review but include the perspective of some of these other stakeholders
{given circumstances reasonable/wise suggestion}
Mayor: coming at this a bit backwards; defeating the motion
Sop: who's drawing up this?
Mayor: --
SW: amendment
Mayor: if defeated; another motion
Mayor: let's see what we come up with now
Sq Nation, Larco; by March 2012
Sop: wd like to see it
ML: Mr Fung
the diff between a peer review and an MAE
are we going to get an equivalent level of x and analysis?
RF: as described in the staff report; variation; some staff suggested went so far as an independent model; felt wd be quite costly
technical peer review wd look at some of the suggestions
28-second delay M? to 11th
other movements wd reduce the delay; typical queueing, four or five cars deep at any one light
175 m backed up in ev direction
wd look at some assumptions; wd see if make diff
but wd not recreate a brand new indep model
Sokol: a technical peer review is looking at movement of cars through corridor
wd not be looking at pedestrian, bicycle impacts wch an MAE wd
Mayor: and peer review wd not include bicycle and ppl, -- are you kidding me ??? !
RF; cars going; looking at pedestrian linkage
wd have to add time to that phase; wd make East/West longer
public -- and that wd be accomplished through an MAE
Sop: why wd CAO go through all this?
this is about an area with gridlock; we've already done peer review
we want to do xxx everything; it's  benefit to everyone
Mayor: motion on the floor
peer review ....... read out
MS: as I see it; much of Cclr Sop's question part of that review; all got to be looked at

{yes, all, but peer review doesn't!}

Sop: peer review won't get everything
ML: maybe we cd include walkers, xxx ...
MS: I'll accept that as a friendly amendment
Mayor: cars, pedestrians, all modes of
MS: skateboards
[who?]: roller blades
SW: add streetscape -- that's what they came up with at Design
Sop: to streetscape; exactly what CAO xxx
going to ask about timings; we need an evaluation period; takes everybody
Mayor: seconder to add streetscape
MS: reword, xxx [11:18]; report back by March 2012; captures ev
it's 11:18!
Mayor: ... can't
[Someone]: mention TransLink as well
Mayor: can't keep
MS: next mtg
Sop: let's do it now; shdn't let it linger; bigger picture and move on
Mayor: magically  --  landscaping?
Ccl endorses xxx including a peer review
to everything, cars, take into acct future of PkR
Sop: I want to ... don't agree
Mayor: then vote against it
PASSED with Sop opposed [11:21]
2. The creation of a Park Royal At-Grade Intersection Working Group be referred to the Cmnty Engagement Cmte; and
3. A budget of $20,000 for this study be provided from 2011 surplus funds.
        {surplus funds? surplus funds? how much is in that fund??? initially and now left?}

start KIWANIS insert  ********
BYLAWS [8:24]
{we now interrupt the programming.
It's this about Kiwanis that was moved to the beginning of the mtg.
from here to the Consent Agenda (8:24 to 8:33) was dealt with right at the start for continuity after the PH.}
SW: ...some of the remarks about smaller; interesting discussion
ML: v supportive; plsd it's here this evening; hope pass expeditiously
Ev: thank Mr Heaslip and his team for an extraordinary team
do like the idea of living in one of these homes
want to emphasize what Cclr Walker made; need for smaller units
is there any flexibility either the footprint or general    to vary if proponents want to go back and take a second look
Sokol: at this point wd require changing density and opening the PH
Sop: I was around when they did the one on 21st
Sop: not that long ago
toured the site, v modern, great living conditions
WV unique high assessments
Kiwanis taking on this challenge; who else wd do it
not much benevolence, high priced land; congratulate you
another landmark for WV
Sokol: need to clarify
diff ways you can measure density, no of units or floor area so as long as the floor area density doesn't change -- that wdn't require PH

{apparently when Geri Boyle went up to him and explained density in this case was measured on FAR not number of units; huge difference if PH need not be re-opened, esp when it's clear that much better with more small units.  $400+ per month is essential for pensioners getting $13 - 19K a year, rather than the $750+ for the new stes!}

we'd be reporting back to Ccl on if you give second reading
DP doesn't come back until second reading
MS: Kiwanis the dedicated group; extremely knowledgeable, give benefit of doubt agonized
wd say plan formulated for sound reasons; not tinker with size of units

{but why not more bachelor units when cheaper and residents financially-challenged???
why does Kiwanis want units almost twice the rent???}

Mayor: Mr Heaslip said they'd be willing to come back
xxx ... ; Sop and I were there the last time
Sop: sorry, didn't realize you were there
Mayor: really app that type of pressure
sometimes shows why the OCP needs to be varied b/c it can be improved
SW moved third reading
Zoning Bylaw
ML: move second reading
PASSED [8:30]
17.  Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4630, 2004, Amendment Bylaw
No. 4694, 2011 (Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society development application) (File: 1610-20-4694)
The proposed bylaw received first reading at the Sept 12 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a Public Hearing/Public Meeting held on October 3. If the PH/PMtg was closed, Ccl may consider the following recommendations.
Note: Each reading of an Official Community Plan bylaw or bylaw amendment must receive an affirmative vote of a majority of all Council members (4 members) in order for the bylaw to proceed (Local Government Act, s.882).
RECOMMENDED: THAT proposed OCP Bylaw Amendment Bylaw be revised as follows:
That in the title of the bylaw "4630" be replaced with "4360" (so that the title reads "Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4694, 2011").
RECOMMENDED MOTION: be read a second time as revised.
RECOMMENDED MOTION: be read a third time.
18. Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4689, 2011 (Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society development application) (File: 1610-20-4689)
The proposed bylaw received first reading at the Sept 12 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a Public Hearing/Public Meeting
RECOMMENDED: be read a second time; RECOMMENDED:  be read a third time.
MS made the motions and all passed
19. Development Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw No. 4695, 2011 (Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society development application) (File:  1610-20-4695)
The proposed bylaw received first reading at the Sept 12 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a Public Hearing/Public Meeting held on October 3. If the PH/PMtg was closed, Ccl may consider the following recommendations.
RECOMMENDED: be read a second time; RECOMMENDED: be read a third time.
MS: think totally appropriate
TP: understand tax exempt as well
Sokol: yes
Sop: thinks further indicates
our way to share in helping; DCC
said they'd be looking at other ways for grants -- good luck with prov and feds
one way can be done
CARRIES  [8:33]
********end of KIWANIS insert discussed at beginning of mtg
20. Consent Agenda Items
The following Consent Agenda items may be considered separately or in one recommendation.
RECOMMENDED: THAT the Consent Agenda items as follows be approved:
Item 20.1 - Development Variance Permit No. 11-038 (1365 28th Street); and
Item 20.2 - Correspondence List.
20.1. Development Variance Permit No. 11-038 (1365 28th Street) (File:  1010-20-11-038)
the M Clerk give notice that DVP No. 11-038 for 1365 28th St to allow a new two-storey dwelling to be constructed, will be considered on Monday, Nov 7.
20.2. Correspondence List (see link on electronic agenda) (File:  0120-24)
The correspondence list was received for information. [Whole list was in last issue on the agenda]
Council Correspondence Update to Sept 16 (up to 12:00 Noon)
...(4) Committee and Board Meeting Minutes - Finance Committee - April 11, 2011
        {the minutes appearing only now about five months later???}
...(6) September 12, re Requesting to have Demolition Permits at the Site of Haywood and 21 Street, (Kiwanis) REVOKED until this matter is settled properly
Response to Correspondence
...(12) B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands and Permits, September 14, 2011, response to West Vancouver Historical Society, regarding Gertrude Lawson House
Council Correspondence Update to September 23, 2011 (up to 12:00 Noon)
> Received for Information
...6.  Eight Submissions dated Sept 13-22, re Recent Proposals by AmblesideNow and Related Advisory Groups
21.  OTHER ITEMS --  No items.
Mayor: Carolanne Reynolds.  Have mercy.
CR: [unintelligible on way up]  I have all this paper here so I' ll be v v fast.
CR West Van Matters
btw, and I do appreciate your efforts -- I know it took a long time to try to include everything when you're looking at that
{re at-grade???}
B/c these questions haven't been answered, I said I wd come and list them all now so that there's no doubt about it.
I first asked about the notes of the Climate Action WG for wch there've been no Notes since Oct 2009.  I first asked in June 2010.  There still are no Notes since Oct 29th [2009].
I asked about whether public were allowed to attend Museum Adv Cmte [mtgs] -- there's a whole list of [various cmtes/WGs] those mtgs, I can give them to you.  I did enumerate them Sept 12.  Again, I have done that before and I still have no responses at all.
I appreciate -- and other ppl have said to me they haven't got responses to their questions -- I think it wd be helpful if you made a statement as to how long residents shd wait for a reply.
And one other question I have is, ah, I understand when you write a letter to Mayor and Ccl it goes in the Correspondence List.  It has come to may attention that some letters that have been addressed to all the mbrs of Ccl have not gone to the Correspondence List so I respectfully request that that policy be followed and that there be responses.
I don't want to take your time now but I have this all documented.
I wd really appreciate a reply.  I've asked several times.  After the mtg on Sept 19, I happened to mention to a couple of mbrs of staff, when are you going to answer these?
That was two weeks ago.  They said they'd look at it "tomorrow morning" and I still haven't had an answer about that.
I know we're all v busy and working hard.  I think it wd be helpful to have a policy and I don't know who's going to make sure it's followed, but I think that wd [hard to hear: address the situation?]
but again, I really do appreciate your trying to look at -- it's right Pk Royal...
{muffled but the intention was to compliment staff for asking for an MAE re the at-grade intersection, and for Ccl to approve it after Sop made his impassioned plea.}
What protection does the Murrell house have if it's on the Heritage Inventory?  You can answer that another time but I just heard that mentioned tonight, and I'd like to ask.
In the meantime, Happy Thanksgiving.
Mayor:  thank you
I believe we have a Climate Action Policy; I believe it's been enshrined in our OCP and we have targets. That's the outcome of the Climate Action WG and looking for Notes from 2009 and the early days, and I'm not going to debate this,

{Oh? So you don't want misleading statements to be challenged/clarified?  I'll agree it's late and no time to debate, but perhaps cd be said that this will be followed up and answered at the next mtg.......}

I'm just saying the CAWG is well-documented in approved policy.

{Completely misses two important points: no Notes when that's part of the WG guidelines; and no reply.  All WGs produce a report -- that's not bring debated.  Notes are missing from Oct 2009 to March 2010 for the CAWG, AND I first asked about them in June 2010, a couple of times over past year and STILL with NO reply.  It was not early days when I asked, so being dismissed now b/c of that is not valid.} 

wrt the Museum Adv Cmte, I'm sure you can attend open mtgs, but perhaps if the dates aren't posted that's difficult to do so, who's responsible for that.  Mr Leigh?

{BINGO!  Exactly.  They have never been on the DWV Calendar.  Why is no one apparently making sure procedures are followed?  BL does not speak.}

wrt how often we reply, I think most times we reply almost instantly

{hearty har har!}

I know I sure do--
CR: --Oh, you do, yes--
Mayor: --and so, the Murrell House, I think they have not registered on that formal Heritage Registry wch wd hv come to our attention, b/c we just went through that whole process as you know.  Then it's the prerogative of the owner; it's nothing that we can really do.

{Well, it was a bit difficult, if not deceptive.  The Murrell house is on the Heritage Inventory (right from the early lists, 1987 or before), although called the Downing House and more significant, in the HI, the address given is 1991 Inglewood, wch I wd hv recognized immediately.  Capt George Murrell, a long-time president of ADRA, used that address.  I was unaware there was an address of 20th although aware it was a corner lot.
Indeed, when I asked staff about 1148 20th, staff replied it was not on the Heritage Inventory!  But there it is on page 17, however listed as 1991 Inglewood.  Were we successfully fooled or distracted?
Also, b/c of her work with vanDusen, Aimee Murrell's garden was noteworthy.
Regardless, the heritage element ought to have been mentioned in the discussion.  Were no cclrs aware it was a primary building in the H Inv?
May I again recommend if anything on the HI is affected, notice shd be provided to heritage and historical groups.
And of course there's something staff and Ccl can do!  At least bring the heritage aspect to our attention.  Shades of our belatedly/indirectly learning the Gertrude Lawson House was apparently destined for demolition.
So Murrell house (called Downing House) demolished and Klee Wyck said to be on last legs so not worth keeping.  Loss through neglect common.}

In terms of response time, from a mbr of staff or Ccl wrt a reply, I think we maintain a pretty high level of service, so I wd appreciate knowing the cases where that has not happened.

{will provide a list of instances; and let's not get into whether satisfactory or complete answers}

I'm willing to bet, that's the vast minority.

{indeed it is!}

And I'm going to ask for a motion to adjourn.
[MS obliged]
24. ADJOURNMENT [11:27; and remember their ccl mtg started at 5pm!]

===  COUNCIL MTG AGENDA Monday Oct 17th  ===
Note: At 6pm the regular Ccl Mtg will commence in open session (in the MFCR), and will be immediately followed by a motion to exclude the public (section 90 of the Cmnty Charter). At 7pm in the Ccl Chamber the PH re Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 (Sunset Lane) will be held. The Ccl Mtg will reconvene in open session in the Council Chamber immediately following the PH.
6:00 PM
RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, mbrs of the public be excluded from part of the [ccl mtg] on the basis of matters to be considered under the Cmnty Charter:
90. (1) A part of a ccl mtg may be closed to the public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is one or more of the following:
a.  personal information about an identifiable individual who holds or is being considered for a position as an officer, employee, or agent of the municipality or another position appointed by the municipality;
e.  the acquisition, disposition, or expropriation of land or improvements, if the council considers that disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality;
g.  litigation or potential litigation affecting the municipality; and
k.  negotiations and related discussions respecting the proposed provision of a municipal service that are at their preliminary stages and that, in the view of the council, could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the municipality if they were held in public.
At 7pm the PH re Zoning for Sunset Lane will be held. The open session of the Council meeting will reconvene immediately following the conclusion of the Public Hearing.
Note: At 7pm the PH will commence in the Ccl Chamber. The Ccl Mtg will reconvene immediately following the PH for consideration of the scheduled agenda items.
7:00 PM
Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 (Sunset Lane) (File:  1610-20-4701)
The Director of Planning, Lands and Permits will describe the subject application.
Applicant: BCR Properties Ltd.
Subject Lands: Sunset Lane Lands
Purpose: To allow the Sunset Lane Lands to be subdivided into 28 new undersized lots for consolidation or lease to adjacent properties and to amend the regulations pertaining to accessory buildings on these lots. Sunset Lane is located parallel to Marine Drive, adjacent to the railway line, starting at Creery Avenue. The Sunset Lane Lands and adjacent properties are shown in Appendix A of the report dated September 13, 2011 regarding Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 - Sunset Lane (included in the Public Hearing Agenda Package).
As part of the subdivision creating the 28 undersized lots, a portion of BC Rail land known as Sunset Lane would be dedicated to the District of West Vancouver as "lane". The rail line will remain in a separate right of way.
Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment: If adopted, Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 would amend the Zoning Bylaw by:
1.  amending the RS4 zone and General Regulations relating to minimum site area, minimum lot width, maximum lot depth and minimum building site conditions to allow 28 new undersized lots to be created from the Sunset Lane Lands in order to consolidate or lease to adjacent lots.
2.   amending the General Regulations regarding how accessory building height is calculated and the minimum distance an accessory building must be located from a house, where a lot includes the Sunset Lane Lands, as follows:
Current Requirement                     Proposed Zoning Amendment
Max height   3.7m from average grade   3.7m from adjacent lane elevation when located within rear 10m of lot
Accessory Building Separation from House  4.5m      0m or, if separated, 1.2m minimum
Acting Mayor Panz will describe the procedure for the Public Hearing...
If you have any concerns about the rules or the Hearing, please address your comments to me, as the Chair.
1) Reports received up to and including October 13, 2011:
TITLE      /       DATE        /          DATE FOR CONSIDERATION     /      NO.
Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 - Sunset Lane
September 13, 2011      /    September 19, 2011/ October 17, 2011        /      R-1
2) Written submissions received up to and including October 13, 2011:
AUTHOR        /        DATE         /           DATE FOR CONSIDERATION          /         NO.
British Columbia Railway Properties   /   Sept 19   /   Sept. 19/ Oct 17       /      C-1
On September 19, 2011 Council set the date for the Public Hearing. On September 29, 2011 notices were mailed to owners/occupiers within the notification area. The statutory notice of Public Hearing was published in the North Shore News on October 9 and 12, 2011. The Municipal Clerk will note written submissions received for the October 17, 2011 Public Hearing.
Acting Mayor Panz will call for public input.
If there is no further public input and Council does not request a further staff report:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ...  be received and that the Public Hearing be closed.
If Council requests a further staff report:
RECOMMENDED: THAT staff report back to Council ...  and that the Public Hearing be adjourned to ____________________. (date, time, and location)
Members of Council are not permitted to receive further submissions once the Public Hearing is closed.
Following conclusion of the Public Hearing, the following items will be considered:
To be provided on October 14, 2011.
RECOMMENDED:  THAT the following Minutes be adopted as circulated:
October 3 Public Hearing/Public Meeting; and October 3, 2011 Regular Council Meeting.
{Oct 15 morning, only reg ccl mtg minutes appeared:}
6. Adoption of October 3, 2011 Council Meeting Minutes
October 3, 2011 Public Hearing/Public Meeting minutes to be provided.
RECOMMENDED: THAT the following Minutes be adopted as circulated:
 =85  October 3, 2011 Public Hearing/Public Meeting; and  =85  October 3, 2011 Regular Council Meeting.
7. North Shore Multicultural Society, regarding Services for New Immigrants and Not For Profit Facility Rental Issues on the North Shore (File:  0055-20-NSMS1)
                        PowerPoint presentation to be provided.
        RECOMMENDED:  THAT Council thank E. Jones of the North Shore Multicultural Society...
8. Parks Master Plan Working Group - Preliminary Working Draft of Parks Master Plan (File:  0117-20-PMP1)
                        PowerPoint presentation to be provided.
1.  The term for the WG be extended for a further six months to March 31; and
2.  The Parks Master Plan Working Group continue to develop the preliminary working draft of the Parks Master Plan, including further public consultation, as set out in the report dated October 5, 2011 titled "...Preliminary Working Draft...       " and bring back the final report with a prioritized implementation strategy to Council in 2012.
9. Rezoning and Development Permit Application No. 11-013 for 2436 Haywood Avenue (File:  1010-20-11-013)
THAT Zoning Amendment Bylaw for property located at 2436 Haywood, as attached to the report by the Sr Cmnty Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated October 6 be introduced and read a first time in short form.
THAT the M Clerk be directed to give statutory notice that a PH is scheduled for Monday, Nov 7.
THAT proposed Devt Permit attached to the report from Sr Cmnty Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated Oct 6 be considered concurrently with Zoning Amendment Bylaw No. 4697, 2011.
THAT the public be given an opportunity to provide comment on the proposed Devt Permit attached to the report from the Sr Cmnty Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated Oct 6 at a Public Mtg held concurrently with the PH on Zoning
10. Metro Vancouver Regional Growth Strategy Amendments (File:  0185-01 METRO)
THAT Council supports [sic] the proposed amendments to the MetroV RGS as described in the report dated October 5, 2011 entitled, "Metro Vancouver Regional Growth Strategy Amendments".
11. Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw No. 4694, 2011, Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4689, 2011, Development Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw No. 4695, 2011 and Development Permit Application No. 1010-20-11-005 for the 900 Block of 21st Street (Kiwanis Seniors' Housing Society of West Vancouver) (File:  1610-20-4694/4689/4695 and 1010-20-11-005)
The proposed bylaws received first reading at the September 12, 2011 Council Meeting, were the subject of a Public Hearing/Public Meeting held and closed on October 3, 2011, and received second and third readings on October 3, 2011.
Note: Each reading of an Official Community Plan bylaw or bylaw amendment must receive an affirmative vote of a majority of all Council members (4 members) in order for the bylaw to proceed (Local Government Act, s.882).
        THAT the OCP Amendment Bylaw be adopted.
        THAT the Zoning Amendment Bylaw be adopted.
        THAT the Devt Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw  be adopted.
        THAT the Devt Permit for property located at the 900 Block of 21st Street be approved.
12. Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 (Sunset Lane) (File: 1050-20-07-005/1610-20-4701)
The proposed bylaw received first reading at the Sept 19 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a PH held on Oct 17. If the PH was closed, Ccl may consider the following recommendations. Ccl is not permitted to receive any submissions regarding the subject bylaw after the PH has closed.
        RECOMMENDED:  be read a second time.... /   be read a third time.
13. Consent Agenda Items
The following Consent Agenda items may be considered separately or in one recommendation.
THAT the Consent Agenda items as follows be approved:
Item 13.1 - Lots 14 to 17 in Rodgers Creek Area 2; Amendment No. 1 to Devt Permit; and
Item 13.2 - Correspondence List.
13.1. Lots 14 to 17 Plan BCP 45164 in Rodgers Creek Area 2; Amendment No. 1 (11-040) to Development Permit No. 09-008 (File:  1010-20-11-040/09-008)
THAT the M Clerk give notice that the Amendment to the Devt Permit for Rodgers Creek Area 2 (located north of Chippendale Road and the Chelsea subdivision), which establishes [site-specific] regulations for [single-family] house construction on Lots 14 to 17 Plan BCP 45164, will be considered at the Ccl Mtg on Monday, Nov 7.
13.2. Correspondence List (see link on electronic agenda) (File:  0120-24)
                                          RECOMMENDED:  THAT the correspondence list be received for information.
Council Correspondence Update to September 30, 2011 (up to 12:00 Noon)
> Referred for Action
1.   F. Metcalf, September 25, 2011, regarding Dangerous Corner on Upper Levels
        (Referred to Director of Engg and Transportation for consideration and response)
2.   Park Royal Shopping Centre Ltd, Sept 28, re Street Level Intersection to be Constructed by PkR.
        (Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response)
3.   [Two] submissions from Western Residents' Association and Otterstein Construction Services, dated September 25 and 29, 2011, regarding Smart Meters in West Vancouver
        (Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response)
> Received for Information
4.   [Eight] submissions dated Sept 22-28 re Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society (Devt Proposal 900 Block 21st)
        (Referred to October 3, 2011 Public Hearing/Public Meeting)
5.   L. Waverley, September 23, 2011, regarding Proposed Building Plans for 2372 Bellevue Avenue
6.   J. Gijssen and Dr. J. Nightingale, Sept 25, re Public Safety Building and AmblesideNow
> Responses to Correspondence
7.   B. Sokol, Dir/Planning, Sept 20, response to P. Miller, regarding Bylaw Offences on the Seawall
        {Miller wrote asking June 3rd}
8.   B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands, and Permits, Sept 21, 2011, response to M. MacMillan, regarding Kiwanis Development Proposal for the 900 Block of 21st Street
        {Reply required for PH}
9.   B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands, and Permits, September 21, 2011, response regarding Bylaw Officer for Dog Issues Must Now Educate Through Enforcement
        {Query sent June 24th}
10.  B. Sokol, Dir/Planning, September 21, response to B. Adie, regarding Gertrude Lawson Site
        {Adie wrote June 22nd}
Council Correspondence Update to October 7, 2011 (up to 12:00 Noon)
> Referred for Action
1.  M. Booth, Chair, WV Board of Education, October 3, 2011, re Devt Cost Charges (DCC's) [sic] related to a Modular Building Installation at West Bay School
        (Referred to Director of Planning, Lands and Permits for consideration and response)
2.  C. Ballantine, October 6, 2011, regarding Bus Stop Billboards
        (Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for consideration and response)
> Received for Information
3.  Cmte/Bd Mtg Minutes: WV Memorial Library Bd - July 20; Design Review Cmte - August 25
4.   J. and W. Cooper, Sept 17, regarding Proposed Development on Beach Front at Foot of 14th Street
5.   Scouts Canada, Pacific Coast Council, September 28, 2011, regarding Annual "Apple Day" Awareness / Fund-raising Event October 15-16, 2011
6.  J. Seddon, September 30, regarding Waterfront Petition Wording --  {signed by over 1100}
7.  M. Latham, September 30, 2011, regarding Blog competition re municipal elections
        {WVM is NOT part of the competition contrary to a report}
8.   West Vancouver Baha'i Community, September 2011, regarding Thirteenth Annual Unity in Diversity Awards (Attachments available for viewing in Legislative Services Department)
        {922 5152; nomination deadline Oct 28}
9.   H[eather] Johnston, October 3, 2011, regarding Urban Garage / Shell Station
10. E. and D. Friesen, October 3, 2011, regarding New Bus Shelters / Billboards
11. J. Seddon, Save the Park Cmte, Oct 4, re Petition - Proposed construction of Buildings on our Ambleside waterfront
12. J. Seddon, October 6, 2011, regarding Ambleside Waterfront
13. J. May, October 7, 2011, regarding Waterfront Buildings
> Response to Correspondence
14. B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands and Permits, Sept 30, response to M. Carter, regarding Taxes
        {Carter wrote asking April 6th}
Council Correspondence Update to October 11, 2011 (up to 4:30 PM)
> Referred for Action
(1) Citizens for Safe Technology, October 11, 2011, regarding Request for Delegation (re BC Hydro Smart Meters - Concerns and Requests) to Attend Council Meeting and Delegation Documentation
        (Referred to Mayor for consideration)
(2) National Defence - Maritime Forces Pacific, September 26, 2011, regarding Cadet Programme in British Columbia (Request for Support)
        (Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and response).

>> NOT ON AGENDA but now on Correspondence webpage so probably will be added Monday night:
> Referred for Action
(1)  The Royal Canadian Legion, Branch 60, Aug 12, re Request for Consideration of Tax Exemption Status
        (Referred to Director of Financial Services for consideration and response)
(2)  J. Beninger, October 10, 2011, re Non Response to three Requests Over 11 Months to Deal With Unsafe Disposal of Household and Garden Waste at 2529 Marine Drive, West Vancouver           
        (Referred to Director of Planning, Lands and Permits for consideration and response)
(3)  M. Booth, Chair, West Vancouver Board of Education, October 12, 2011, regarding Annual Fees for Fire Inspection of West Vancouver Public Schools
        (Referred to Fire Chief for consideration and response)
(4)  G. Polman, October 14, 2011, regarding Ambleside-Now - Public Safety Building (PSB)
        (Referred to Dir/Planning, for consideration and response)
Why now referred to Dir/Planning? Strange b/c Dir/Fin said she'd answer and so did CAO whose report was on the Oct 3rd agenda.
When asked about answers to his five questions, Garrett Polman replied (the same day!): "Fact is I received no answers to my questions of July 4th except for an email from the CAO informing me that my issues would be addressed in a staff report on AmblesideNOW going to Council in the fall, but that report did not address any of my questions."
> Received for Information
(5)  Decoda Literacy Solutions, September 27, 2011, regarding Community Literacy Programs
(6)  Statistics Canada, Western Region and Northern Territories, August 24, 2011, regarding Appreciation for Support in Promoting 2011 Census and National Household Survey (NHS)
(7)  J. Seddon, Save the Park Committee, October 13, 2011, regarding Additional Signed Petitions
        (Objection to the Construction of Buildings on Ambleside Park Land)
>  Response to Correspondence
(8) B. Sokol, Dir/Planning, Oct 3, 2011, response to S. lverach, regarding Ambleside Revitalization
        {Query emailed July 4th}
14.  OTHER ITEMS  --  none

Giant spider crab sheds its shell.  http://www.wimp.com/spidercrab/
Shapeshifting octopus, colour too; amazing! http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/5119.html
===  INFObits  ===
+  Portugal decriminalizes drugs, crime usage falls.  http://www.wimp.com/portugaldecriminalizes/
+  Canada's Citizenship Week October 16 - 22:
It's a time to reflect on the value and meaning of citizenship, and to celebrate the history, symbols, institutions, and values that define us as Canadians.
Prime Minister Harper said: "Our citizenship defines our rights and our responsibilities to one another. It is a shared commitment to our country's core beliefs in freedom, democracy, human rights, and the rule of law - values which we all hold dear, and which serve as a beacon for other nations.
"Canadians have one of the most prized citizenships in the world, as evidenced by the hundreds of thousands of people from around the world who apply for Canadian citizenship each year. This week, approximately 4,750 people will enjoy the special honour of becoming Canadian citizens, taking the Oath at more than 60 special ceremonies across the country."

===  PEACEWATCH  ===  To view the on-line version click here.
CPTnet  9 October 2011
AL-KHALIL (HEBRON) REFLECTION:  The power of hope-what Palestinians are saying about recent events at the U.N.
by Art Arbour
"No!"  This is the answer one gets when you ask Palestinian shopkeepers in Hebron whether they expect anything good to come out of the recent events at the United Nations.  They cite the twenty years of broken promises-especially those of Barack Obama.  They point out the continuing political power of the Israeli settlers, the daily confiscation of more Palestinian lands, and the Israeli control of 65% of the West Bank.
They have expressed many worries to CPT's Al-Khalil team:
And yet ... despite all the dashed hopes and broken promises and dissatisfaction with the leadership, almost everyone supports the application for statehood, even if it fails.  The application proclaims that Palestinians want freedom and brings the occupation to the attention of the world in a powerful way.
"All families are talking about it," said one friend.  And "we don't need anyone to tell us that we deserve it because everyone deserves freedom!"  Another said, "People are angry at Obama because he raises expectations but we don't hang our hopes on the US."
A survey by a Palestinian news agency revealed that 75% of Palestinians believe that the Americans will veto the application at the U.N. security council.  Others believe the US will prevent the issue coming to a vote or will abstain from casting a vote.
And yet ... during the week before Abbas spoke at the U.N., tens of thousands demonstrated on Hebron's main street, which one observer described as more of a celebration.  "Yesterday," he told me, "Many marched for the first time - old men, many women and children too.  Members of Hamas, communists and simple people who in the past have been totally nonpolitical, only interested in family and business."  Thousands more celebrated at a soccer game, more thousands at a rock concert where a big name group of old rockers from the 1970s performed popular revolutionary songs.
Most people agreed that there will be no Arab Spring in Palestine; the bad economy will prevent people from taking off work to march in the streets.  However, one person said, "We are exhausted but we are not turned off.  We need to trust a new leader and we need to trust in life."
After sixty-three years, hope remains.
CPT's MISSION: What would happen if Christians devoted the same discipline and sacrifice to nonviolent peacemaking that armies devote to war? Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT) seeks to enlist the whole church in organized, nonviolent alternatives to war and places teams of trained peacemakers in regions of lethal conflict.
COMMENTS: To ask questions or express concerns, criticisms and affirmations send messages to peacemakers@cpt.org.
===  ARTWATCH  === Pencil Power
You will not believe what you see from these pencils -- Faber Castell  http://vimeo.com/27405001
===  RISING CAIN  ===  Herman http://www.economist.com/node/21532282?fsrc=nlw%7Chig%7C10-13-2011%7Ceditors_highlights
...  The latest excitement, however, is perhaps the most unexpected of all: Herman Cain, a former pizza mogul and talk-show host.
...  Mr Cain has an impressive and uplifting resume. Despite coming from a poor black family, he earned degrees in mathematics and computing, and worked briefly for the navy as a rocket scientist. He had successful stints as a manager at Coca-Cola and Pillsbury, a food group, before leading a buy-out of one of its subsidiaries, Godfather's Pizza. He served on, and ultimately chaired, the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.  ...

===  MONEYWATCH  ===
Canadian Federation of Independent Business
Why is spending growth so robust? Why do municipalities keep asking taxpayers for more? You don't need to look any further than their badly out-of-proportion labour costs. A municipal worker in BC is paid 10 per cent more on average than a private-sector counterpart. With benefits they get 35 per cent more.
ICBA recently combed through of a number of collective agreements signed by BC municipalities (see page 3). We found gold-plated contract terms like gratuity days (time off on top of regular holidays and sick time, just for coming to work), defined benefit pensions, and bloated holiday provisions. While most taxpayers worried about losing their jobs through the worst recession in recent memory, many municipal workers were handed pay increases larger than the rate of inflation.
Unions are not to blame - they are there to grab as much as they can for members. It is municipal politicians who have forgotten how to say no to everything but tax increases. It's clear that municipalities need to refocus on cost reductions and take a good, hard look at their job-for-life unionized workforces.
Cities can cut costs and save. It's happening in Toronto, which is moving garbage collection away from city workers and towards independent contractors. Though it's only happening in select parts of the city, the expected savings are $8 million or 17 per cent a year. South of the border the taxpayers of Phoenix, Arizona (see page 4) - are reaping the benefits of multi-faceted cost control programs.
The Broader Cost Impact
Out-of-control municipal spending means more than rising property taxes. A vast number of municipal fees and charges are layered onto the cost of new homes and other buildings, driving up the cost of living.

===  WATERWATCH  ===  IOW == thirst; ethnic cleansing
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 From: "CPTnet: the news service of CPT" <cptnet@mailman.cpt.org>
To view the on-line version click here.
CPTnet   15 October 2011
AL-KHALIL (HEBRON): Water shortage-a daily Palestinian experience
by Reinhard Kober
Abu Jamal is head of a well-known family in Halhul, to the north of Al-Khalil.  It is a beautiful hilltop town, surrounded by fields and lovely gardens.  Like other cities in the Palestinian Authority-administered Area A, its population has grown from some 3,000 in the sixties to 30,000 now.  Because of this growth, the infrastructure also has needed to expand.  For the last few years, the town has needed to open a new school each year.
Living east of the green line border, Abu Jamal and his sons, like many other people, may no longer legally work in Israel.  They invested in greenhouses, cultivated eggplants and tomatoes, and were generally successful at first.  When I asked him how his farming is going, he shrugged his shoulders, and his face showed immediately that things are becoming worse.  "We don't have the water we need," he said.  "Just three hours of water access per week is not enough.  Buying water in tanks is too expensive.  We can't do anything."
Listening him, I am reminded of my last walk to the vegetable market in Al Khalil/Hebron.  When the Israel army shut down the old vegetable market next to the Avraham Avinu settlement (which violated the Sharm-Al-Sheikh agreement between Israel and Palestine), the entire city suffered.  If you look at the piles of boxes with Hebrew labels, you get an idea of how Israeli companies profit from taking advantage of the inadequate water resources.  According OCHA (U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs) and an Amnesty International report, Palestinians are denied access to the water aquifer underneath their own land.  On average, Israelis use 300 liters of water per day, Palestinians only sixty liters.  Palestinians are not even allowed to dig their own wells.  The situation in area C, controlled by the Israeli Civil Administration is worse.  The Israeli military often destroys cisterns, which collect rainwater, to make life in this area more difficult.  An OCHA official told me,  "It's easy to make the fields bloom in dry areas [in Israel] when you deny others the use of their own water."
Abu Jamal wants his children to study at Abu Dis University, which is very expensive.  So, at great personal risk, he sneaks across the border to earn money at an illegal job in Israel and sleeps without a shelter.  On the one hand, he finished our conversation, saying again, "What we can do?"  On the other hand, I think he is still not giving up on a better future for his growing family.

===  WOMANWATCH  ===

===  SCHOOLWATCH  === how lucky our children are to go to school
October 11, 2011 Contact: Christian Peacemaker Teams, Al-Khalil
HEBRON, WEST BANK - Tuesday, October 11, 2010
At approximately 10am, two CPT representatives were called to Cortuba School.
Observers informed CPTers that The Israeli Army would not allow teachers to pass through the gate at the side of the checkpoint as was the agreed upon, they were told they had to pass through the container. The teacher refused to enter through the container and remained outside the checkpoint. The head principal explained that the refusal by the teachers to pass through the checkpoint container was an act of resistance because no justification for the new order prohibiting teachers to enter through the gate was given.
Some of the children returned from the school seeking information as to why teachers were not in school, clashes at the checkpoint ensued with the soldiers and settlers, resulting in seven children being taken to the hospital.

Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:22:25 -0700 (PDT)
Title of Piece: Canada plays the wrong hand on Palestine   Media Outlet: Toronto Star
Hyperlink to Piece: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1057064--canada-plays-the-wrong-hand-on-palestine
Taufiq Rahim explains why it is wrong that Canada has decided to oppose the bid for Palestinian Statehood at the UN. In his article, Rahim explains that Canada's bias towards Israel and its opposition to the bid go against both international and domestic public opinion. Furthermore, the Harper government's opposition interferes with the peace process for both Israel and Palestine.

===  CBCWATCH motivation and inspiration  ===  http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/
Monday October 3, 2011  The Mayor of Mogadishu
If you're looking to make a difference in politics, there are easier places than the capital of Somalia. Devastated by a decade of insurgency and piracy and now ravaged by famine and plagued by vicious violence, you've got to wonder why Mohamed Admed Noor was so ready to abandon refuge in Britain to be Mayor. As part of our project Game Changer, we follow the irrepressible Mayor of Mogadishu.
Part Two of The Current  -- The Mayor of Mogadishu
Few big city mayors wear a chain of office as heavy and burdensome as the mayor of Mogadishu, the capital of a country that hasn't had a functioning government in more than two decades. Somalia is plagued by the allies of al-Qaeda and pirates rule the coast.
The country is so dangerous, the United Nations bases most of its Somali operations in nearby Kenya. Politicians trying to restore order in this anarchy find they quickly become targets. And yet, late last year, Mohamed Ahmed Noor decided to sign on as the Mayor of Mogadishu.
As part of The Current's ongoing Game Changer project, freelance writer and broadcaster Hassan Ghedi Santur went to meet the man many are calling Mogadishu's last hope. Hassan joined Anna Maria in our Toronto studio to introduce his documentary, The Son of Mogadishu.
Monday October 3, 2011  Resistance Fighter: Stephane Hessel
Terrible things happened to Stephane Hessel when he fought in the French resistance seventy years ago. But he hasn't stop fighting. Now, at the age of 94, he's written a best seller that's inspired many young people. Find out what's behind the new French resistance.
Part Three of The Current  --  Resistance Fighter: Stephane Hessel
If you fought with the French resistance in the early 1940's there was a popular song that helped lift spirits: Le Chant de Partisans.
Seventy years later, one of the last survivors of the French resistance is still trying to lift spirits. Stephane Hessel played a key role fighting the Nazi occupiers during the Second World War. Today, the 94 year old former freedom fighter is inspiring people to join a modern resistance. His book, Time for Outrage has sold more than four million copies in 30 languages. Stephane Hessel joined us from New York City.
http://www.thenation.com/article/158644/time-outrage   and

+  HSBC  http://www.heritagebc.ca/
Provincial Government, What's New   Minister Promises $35,000 for Heritage BC
At the Heritage BC Annual Conference at Burnaby's Shadbolt Centre on September 30, 2011, the Honourable Steve Thomson, minister responsible for heritage conservation, announced that a financial contribution of $35,000 will be made to Heritage BC over the next six months.  The funds are to assist Heritage BC develop a new strategic plan. Until 2009, the provincial government had provided annual operating funding for Heritage BC.  That...  =BBMore
Posted Fri, Oct 7th, 2011

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Bring a lunch and enjoy dynamic, illustrated presentations about the city's built environment. Register >>
Wed Oct 26th: Remaking Cultural Spaces for Relevancy in the Coming Century

===  MAIKU  ===   2011 October 10/11 -- listening to the night rain

        so now monsoon season starts
                        some determined drops
                                        above the deluge

                rain starts to lessen
                        some desultory drops

We're here to put a dent in the universe.
                                                    -- Steve Jobs, American entrepreneur and inventor (1955 - 2011)
We are responsible for our silences as well as for our words.
                                                                                -- Leonard Roy Frank, American writer (b 1932)
There is only one thing more painful than learning from experience, and that is not learning from experience.
                                                             -- Laurence J. Peter, Vancouver-born educator (1919 - 1980)
It isn't the mountain ahead that wears you out -- it's the grain of sand in your shoe.
                                -- Robert Service, Bard of the Yukon (1874 - 1958)
{Carolanne, ever the optimist, hopes the grain of sand lands in an oyster......}
Finance is the art of passing money from hand to hand until it finally disappears.                                                                                                                                                             
                                -- Robert W. Sarnoff, American head of RCA (age 78?)           
Misunderstandings and neglect occasion more mischief in the world than even malice and wickedness.
     -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German poet, dramatist, novelist, and philosopher (1749 - 1832)

How is it possible to expect that mankind will take advice, when they will not so much as take warning?
     -- Jonathan Swift, Anglo-Irish satirist, essayist, and political pamphleteer (1667 - 1745)

If they give you ruled paper, write the other way.
                         -- Juan Ramon Jimenez, Spanish poet, Nobel Prize winner in literature (1881 - 1958)

The fragrance always stays in the hand that gives the rose.    -- Hadia Bejar

The crowd at the cannibal's party grew silent when he announced he would be serving finger foods.
I can never wear glasses. They make me see-sick.
My dog failed his driving test, he can't parallel bark.
The Oldest Profession
A doctor, an architect, and a computer scientist were arguing about whose profession was the oldest.
In the course of their arguments, they went all the way back to the Garden of Eden. The doctor said, "The medical profession is clearly the oldest because Eve was made from Adam's rib, as the story goes, and that was an incredible surgical feat."
The architect did not agree. He said, "But if you look at the Garden itself, in the beginning there was chaos and void, and out of that, the Garden and the world were created. So God must have been an architect."
The computer scientist, who had listened to all of this said, "Yes, but where do you think the chaos came from?"