WVM2011-21
Oct 3 NOTES
AGENDA Oct 17
Calendar to Nov 11
by
Carolanne Reynolds, Editor
www.WestVan.org
Hope you enjoyed
Thanksgiving!
Happy New Year Yom
Kippur Diwali
. . . and now we're into election campaign
mode.........
MAIN ITEMS, ccl mtg Monday Oct 17th: PH on Sunset
Lane; then ccl mtg.
NSh Multicultural Society; Parks Master Plan WG's Preliminary
Draft; Rezoning/DPA for 2436 Haywood; Correspondence
includes PkR intersection; WRA re Smart Meters; Kiwanis Devt; 2372
Bellevue proposal; PSB and AmbNOW; staff responses to queries
received in April and June; bus stop billboards; Scouts' Apple Day
Fundraising (Oct 15/16); 1100+ petition against building on
waterfront; complaint about non-response for 11 months; Polman's Five, asked July 4 and still looking
for answers
= Vive le Canada (Nobel Prizes and Elections); M
ELECTIONWATCH; from the EDITOR'S DESK; UPDATES & INFO (Bird Count;
View re taxes and TransLink)
= CALENDAR to Nov 11th; CULTUREWATCH (Theatre; Art;
Music; Photography, Film); Nature Walks
= Subscriber EMail: Update A, Oct 6 (Ccl Oct 3rd
highlights; DWV Website Survey; AmbNOW PSB; GFOA Award;
Welch St improvements; UBCM Heritage Resolution; Hands off our
lands; Jobs's Personal Life; Marley vs Kains; Ontario Election;
Nobel Peace Prize; Archbishop Tutu; Pandamonium)
= Ccl Mtg NOTES Oct 3rd: PUBLIC HEARING: Kiwanis
Seniors Housing Society devt
Ccl Mtg: WV Historical Society re Arts Facilities on Argyle;
Gd Nbr Bylaw; PSB; AmbNOW Expenditures; TransLink; (Wetmore)
Pacific Arbour Revisions; Rezoning, Redevt Permit Applic 1305
Marine (Shell gas station); Park Royal at-grade
intersection; Kiwanis (second/third reading); DVP 1365
28th; Correspondence: AmbNow; bus shelters; April (!!!) Fin
Cmte mtg minutes; Staff response re GLH; cat-licensing; CNV
early child care and milk container deposits; amendments to
RGS; LMTAC; Drinking Water Quality
= COUNCIL MTG AGENDA Oct 17
= ANIMALWATCH (giant spider crab; disappearing octopus);
INFObits (Drugs/Portugal; Citizenship Wk); PEACEWATCH (Palestine/UN);
ARTWATCH (pencil power); RISING CAIN (it's rocket science!);
MONEYWATCH (CFIB); WATERWATCH (IOW ethnic cleansing); WOMANWATCH ($$$
Engagement rings); SCHOOLWATCH (lucky to go to school); CBCWATCH
(example; book); HERITAGEWATCH (BC, Vancouver); MAIKU (rain-ku);
QUOTATIONS/THOUGHTS/PUNS; The Oldest Profession
=== Vive le CANADA
===
Nobel Prize to Canadians:
Statement by the Prime Minister of Canada paying tribute to
recipients of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (October 3,
2011 Ottawa, Ontario
Prime Minister Stephen Harper today issued the following)
statement on the awarding of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine
to Canadian-born Ralph M. Steinman:
"On behalf of all Canadians, I would like to pay tribute to
the remarkable accomplishments of Ralph M. Steinman and his colleagues
Jules A. Hoffman and Bruce A. Beutler, who today were awarded the
prestigious Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine....
"Sadly, Dr. Steinman passed away on September 30, 2011,
prior to receiving his prize. The Nobel Prize for Physiology or
Medicine is a fitting final tribute to his life's work.
"Dr. Steinman shall be honoured for all time with this
achievement. Canadians will mourn his loss."
ELECTIONS
Oct 3: re-election of Robert Ghiz as Premier of PEI
Oct 4: election of Greg Selinger as the Premier of Manitoba
Oct 6: Premier McGuinty's re-election for a third term as Premier
of Ontario.
Oct 7: Alison Redford, new premier of Alberta
Oct 11: the people of Newfoundland and Labrador elected
Progressive Conservative Party leader Kathy Dunderdale to continue to
serve as Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Oct 11: election as Premier Darrell
Pasloski of the Yukon Party
=== ELECTIONWATCH -- Municipal
=== Nominations closed Oct 14.
Cclr Smith elected MAYOR by acclamation: Congratulations
and Good Luck to Mike.
Candidates for Councillor:
Mary-Ann Booth, Craig Cameron, Michael Evison, Nora Gambioli.
Gregg Henderson, David Jones. Damian Kettlewell, Michael Lewis, Sarah
Modam (Moghaddamjoo)*, Max Nikpay, Trish Panz, Carolanne Reynolds,
Bill Soprovich, Vivian Vaughan
The race is on!
* Modam is the spelling on the list of candidates
(
http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=36292 ) and the
other on the declaration.
Current info can be found
at westvancouver.ca/election
http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=130
ALL-CANDIDATES MTGS:
Thurs Oct 13 KMC 7pm --
West Vancouver Chamber of Commerce
Tues Oct 18 Gleneagles
Clubhouse 7pm -- Western Residents' Association
Thurs Oct 20 KMC 7pm --
West Vancouver Citizens for Good Government
Thurs Nov 3 Sentinel
Secondary School -- WV District Parent Adv Ccl (only for School
Trustees)
Wed Nov 9 Srs' Activity
Ctr 2:30pm -- SAC Adv Board
Important Dates
- 2011 Election
http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=35628
Oct 19: last day to
meet the 30-day residency/property ownership requirement to be
able to register on general voting day
Oct 21: at 4pm is
the deadline for a candidate to withdraw
Oct 21: after
4pm the final list of candidates will be posted on the District's
website
Oct 24: 4pm the
declaration of election by voting will be made, and declaration of
candidates elected by acclamation (if any)
October:
Notices informing of advance voting opportunities and election by
voting will be published in the local newspaper (and available
on the District's website)
November 5, 8, 9,
10, 14: advance voting from 8am to 8pm at Municipal
Hall
November 19:
voting from 8am to 8pm at any of the ten voting places (see
Where and When to Vote section)
=== from the EDITOR'S DESK
===
o Do hope Culture Days becomes an annual event:
http://www.culturedays.ca/en
o Overwhelmingly busy time; pls forgive best efforts trying
to get down what ppl say at the ccl mtgs and to be inclusive of the
many events in the Calendar.
o We've just passed Thanksgiving and now go into
Remembrance Day -- they make a good pair.
=== UPDATES & INFO
===
+ LIGHTHOUSE PARK
PRESERVATION SOCIETY
from the newsletter:
http://westvancouver.ca/uploadedFiles/Parks_and_Environment/Stewardship/September%202011%20LPPS%20Newsletter.pdf
MONTHLY BIRD COUNTS
-- first Sunday of every month at
8:30am.
November 6th. Meet at the upper kiosk in
the parking lot in Lighthouse Park Call Suann at 926 9094 for more
information.
+ TRANSLINK &
PROPERTY TAXES
One man's view since
WV voted to increase property taxes:
Congestion pricing should pay for transit
So Pam Goldsmith-Jones (the soon-to-be former mayor of West
Vancouver) and friends think milking property owners to pay for poorly
planned and ridiculously expensive transit is the way to go.
Taxing people who may not even own a car or need to use
transit makes sense, sure it does.
Of course, taxing everyone a little bit is like putting the
frog in the pot before turning up the heat - the mayors must hope the
overtaxed and underserved don't notice the slight increase in
pain.
Why are our political leaders ignoring the obvious solution
recommended by the experts: road and congestion pricing?
Penalize those who choose not to use transit to help make
transit better (and the roads less congested).
Also, it would help if TransLink would lose its fixation on
expensive SkyTrain technology and deploy light rapid transit - proven
to be cheaper and therefore able to serve many more areas for the same
investment.
The mayors' proposal: the wrong tax for the wrong transit
system.
(From:
http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/letters/Congestion+pricing+should+transit/5549598/story.html)
======= CALENDAR to Nov
11th =======
All mtgs are at M Hall
unless indicated otherwise. NOTE: shown are mtgs known at
this date; often there are additions, changes, cancellations after WVM
goes out. Check the DWV Calendar:
http://www.westvancouver.ca/Calendar.aspx .
Notices/mtgs/changes too late for an issue or too early for the next
are sent to subscribers as updates (see above). They then appear
in the next newsletter.
+ Mental Illness Awareness Week (October 2 - 8, Canada and
USA).
+ Canada's Citizenship Week, which runs from October
16 - 22:
+ LPPS -- one more weed pull scheduled
for 2011, and this takes place in Caulfeild Park on Saturday, Oct
15th, 9am - Noon. Please join us to
continue our restoration work in this beautiful park. We shall
be weeding and clearing more blackberries. Please wear sturdy
shoes, old clothes and work gloves, and bring along clippers and a
spade or hand trowel if possible.
Meet at the ANCHOR on PILOT
HOUSE ROAD at 9am. (If you are driving, take Marine Drive to
Piccadilly South, turn south on Piccadilly and left on Dogwood Lane,
which becomes Pilot House Road.) Drinks and snacks will be
provided. If you are able to join us for part
or all of the morning, we look forward to seeing you
there.
== Tuesday October 18
~ 7pm ~ WRA-sponsored all-candidates mtg; Gleneagles Golf
Course Clubhouse (MC David Thomas)
== Wednesday October 19
~ 7pm ~ Library Bd at Library; but Bd of Variance
CANCELLED
== Thursday October 20
~ 4:30pm ~ Design Review Cmte Mtg CANCELLED
~ 7pm ~ (KMC) All-Candidates Mtg (WV Citizens for Good
Govt); see Oct 27 also
== Friday October 21
~ 6:30 - midnight ~
Oktoberfest
Celebrate the Fall
Harvest with our second Oktoberfest Event at Gleneagles Community
Centre. Dress up in your favourite German outfit, enjoy a hearty
helping of traditional German grub including schnitzel, bratwurst,
German potato salad, braised cabbage, and apple strudel, and dance the
night away to BC's best Bavarian band: "Al Pichler and the
Alpines". This evening is not to be missed. Cost
$30/person. Info: 921 2100
== Saturday October 22
The Second Annual Community
Harvest Dinner at St Monica's (Horseshoe Bay). Tix are
$15/adult, $8/child, or $30/family of four. Come and enjoy a homemade
feast for the whole family. Children's activities provided, call 921
9112 or email stmonica@uniserve.com for tickets.
~ 7pm ~ 10th Annual Rotary Wine and Food
Festival
Once again, we are hosting the Annual North Shore Wine and Food
Festival at Park Royal South. There will be over 30 wineries and ten
restaurants for your enjoyment. Tickets are $50 for an evening of
delicious food, wine, entertainment and great prizes. Bring your
friends and enjoy a great night out. Don't worry about getting home,
because your ticket
includes a $10 Taxi Voucher home. Buy your
tickets today at Park Royal Guest Services or online at
www.northshorewinefest.com.
~ 6pm ~ Islam and Pluralism -- Dinner & Lecture
by Michael Hamilton Morgan
International speaker, nonprofit founder and
former U.S. diplomat Michael Morgan is also a nonfiction author and
novelist. Since 2007, Morgan has been a keynote speaker at the Arab
Business Council, the Mohammed bin Rashid Foundation in Dubai, the Abu
Dhabi International Book Fair, the Sharjah International Book Fair,
and many other venues. The message of Morgan's 2007 book, Lost
History: the Enduring Legacy of Muslim Scientists, Thinkers and
Artists has reached more than 300 million people worldwide. The book
was praised by former President Jimmy Carter, Jordan's King Abdullah
II, and NYU's Pulitzer Prize winning historian David Levering Lewis.To
read Mr. Morgan's full biography and for a list of events go to
www.islamichistorymonth.com
The BC Muslim Association & The Canadian
Islamic Congress proudly present 2011 ISLAMIC HISTORY
MONTH VANCOUVER
Limited Number - FREE but by reservation only 270 2522
www.bcma.com
http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=92cd767b5cca11758037b4426&id=43efc0f6fc&e=fbf4a1d5f5
== Wednesday October 26
~
5pm ~ WV Police Board mtg at WVPD
~
7pm ~ BPAHA AGM with WV Ccl candidates (Sentinel High
School) www.bpaha.org
~ 7pm ~ The
Mayors' Tribute to the Arts
The Fund for the
Arts on the North Shore (FANS) society presents the Mayors' Tribute to
the Arts. Internationally recognized dance choreographer Anna
Wyman has been chosen to receive this year's FANS Distinguished Artist
Recognition Award.
Place: Bistro
Chez Michel, NV; Tix $25. Appetizers/cash bar. store187@theupsstore.ca Call 990 4712 for more
info.
== Thursday October 27
~ 5pm ~
NSh Adv Cmte on Disability Issues mtg at DNV M Hall
~ 5:30pm ~ Police Bd mtg -- MOVED to Oct 26
~ 6:30pm ~ Shell Gas Station -- Public Information mtg at WV
Memorial Library
~
7pm ~ WVCGG "Endorsation" mtg re candidates for
Ccl
== Saturday October 29
~ 11am - 3pm ~ Get spooky with a free Halloween Craft
Day, at Park Royal South Centre Court. Costumes are highly
encouraged. So give your Halloween costume a try, and come enjoy this
fun afternoon. (This activity is best suited for children under
12).
http://www.shopparkroyal.com/campaigns/halloween-park-royal
== Sunday October 30
~ 1pm ~ Canadian Boat to Gaza is organising an action on
Sunday, the day before Halloween. We will be parading our CBG
kayak around Granville Island. Banners, signs, and pamphlets
provided. Granville Island--at the entrance under the
bridge, rain or shine. (Look for the Palestinian flag and the Kayak on
wheels.)
The goal is to remind people of: the ongoing siege of
Gaza; the predicament of the Palestinian people; what individuals can
do about it; organisations here in Vancouver that might help them take
action.
Our action will take place in concert with a Kayak Flotilla on
Ottawa's Rideau Canal -- right up to Harper's office -- to let him
know what we think of his policies on the Middle East. Join us
for a walk in solidarity around Granville Island.
{This notice sent to me from Jews for a Just
Peace}
== Monday October 31
~ 3:30 - 5:30pm ~
Trick Or Treat - A Halloween Tradition at Park Royal
throughout all of Park Royal North, South, and The Village. Wear your
costume and visit stores with the pumpkin stickers to get the best
treats.
~ ?pm ~ The Horseshoe Bay Business
Association Annual General Meeting hbbusinessassociation@gmail.com
== Thursday November 3
~
7:30pm ~ All Candidates Mtg (WV Dist Parent Adv Ccl) at Sentinel
Secondary
== Wednesday November 9
Mayor Goldsmith-Jones will end her term as West Van's Mayor this
November. As a result, some WV community leaders and our Council
have organised a farewell reception at the Kay Meek Centre starting at
7:30pm. Cocktails, hors d'oeuvres, live jazz, special guests
Vicki Gabereau, Kirsten Nash, and others will make this a memorable
evening with proceeds benefiting the West Vancouver Cmnty
Foundation.
Tickets are $45 through the Kay Meek Box Office;
ADVANCE TIX ONLY, by Nov
2nd
http://www.kaymeekcentre.com/on_stage/1250
*** Friday November 11th Remembrance Day
***
o
ENGLISH CORNER
Come practise
English conversation -- develop skills, learn vocabulary, participate
in interesting discussions, and make new friends. Fridays, through
December 16 (there will be no English Corner November
11).
Topics for
October will be Manners (Oct 14), Health: Body, Mind, and Spirit (Oct
21), and Superstition, Old Wives' Tales, and Sayings (Oct.
28).
For more
information please call Nadia Vargha Majzub at 922
5152.
English Corner is facilitated by the Bahai Community
of West Vancouver in partnership with the Library.
o Friends of the
Library Booksale
Friends Preview,
membership required: Oct 13 Thursday 6 - 8 pm
Friday 14 and
Saturday 15 Main
Booksale 10 am - 4 pm
= Monday Oct
17 Teen
Movie Night
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 6:15 - 9pm PG | Refreshments
provided
= Tuesday Oct
18
Introduction to Social Media
~ 2 - 4 pm ~ Computer
Training Room. Call the Community Computing Centre to register for
this class which will teach you about Facebook and Twitter: 925
7405.
o Philosophers' Café
10:30am - noon Friday Oct 21
The Canadian Charter of Rights & Freedoms with guest
James LymBruner. Admission $5.
o Friday Night Concert Series presents
~ 7:30pm Oct 21 -- Don Alder -- Guitar
Player Magazine's 2010 "Guitar Superstar". Discover the
original deeply textured music of this local talent, who also works
with the Rick Hansen Man in Motion Foundation. Come early for
best seats. Doors open at 7pm. See you there!
= Monday Oct
24
Join Lions Gate
Sinfonia conductor Clyde Mitchell in conversation with pianist Sara
Davis Buechner.
10:30am - noon,
Welsh Hall West.
KAY MEEK
"OFFSTAGE" PRESENTS - SARA DAVIS BUECHNER
From New York to
Tokyo to Vancouver and in between - the life of jet-setting pianist
Sara Davis Buechner, with Clyde Mitchell, host. Monday, October 24,
10:30am - noon
= Wednesday
26 Authors in Our
Community: Harold Rosen
Buddha, Christ, Muhammad -- is there any
connection? Harold Rosen has discovered 25 links between the world's
major religions. 7:30 - 9pm
= Thursday
27 Meet the
Personality behind the Falls
Author Catherine Gildiner will share her
tales from a not-so-typical girlhood, and larger-than-life memories of
misadventures during the tumultuous Sixties. 7 - 8:30pm.
In After the Falls, Catherine Gildiner
recounts her remarkable coming-of-age with the same wit, candour, and
spirited storytelling that made Too Close to the Falls a modern
classic. Don't miss the chance to meet this smart and funny author as
she shares firsthand tales from a not-so-typical girlhood, and
larger-than-life memories of misadventures during the tumultuous
Sixties.
Those wishing to take advantage of our
hearing impairment technology are asked to arrive 15 minutes
early.
= November 4 Friday 7 -
11pm -- LA DOLCE VITA --
West Vancouver Memorial Library Foundation
-- An evening of La Dolce Vita in support of the
West Vancouver Memorial Library including wine tasting, regional
cuisine, live opera performance, literary showcase, grand prize draw,
gelato fresco, espresso bar. Tickets available now - $125
each.
Contact the West Vancouver
Memorial Library Foundation Office 925 7425 or
foundation@westvanlibrary.ca
In the Gallery Woven Inspiration
A selection of recent tapestries by members of The Tapestry
Weavers Interest Group: Virginia Baldwin, Nina Chrzanowski, Traude
Doelker, Vladimira Fillion, May Keller, Myrna Lindstrom, Robert
Schinnour, and Linda Wiles. This exhibition displays a wide
variety of moods, images, and techniques available to the modern
designer/weaver of tapestries. Showing Oct 3 - Nov 3. For
exhibition details visit our Gallery
web page.
+++ WV MUSEUM +++ http://westvancouvermuseum.ca/exhibitions/current_exhibition
Sonny Assu - Longing
~~ September 14 to November 5
Longing is an installation of innovative, new work by
Vancouver-based artist Sonny Assu composed of sculptures and
photographs. The sculptures are found objects now displayed
conceptually as "masks". As found objects they provide the
core focus of the investigation undertaken by the artist. Within this
context, found is juxtaposed to lost, or an art and culture altered or
displaced by conditions of colonialism and European settlement. The
artist uses longing to suggest a history reexamined and
reclaimed.
The photographs show the
"masks" in situ within three sites, which
characterize the collecting and marketing of Northwest Coast art: as
artifacts in the visible storage area of an ethnographic museum, as
fine art in an exhibition of aesthetic objects in a commercial
gallery, and the tourist shop emphasizing curiosities, souvenirs, or
keepsakes to take home.
Vancouver-based artist Sonny Assu is
Laich-kwil-tach (Kwakwaka'wakw) of the Weka'yi First Nation of
Cape Mudge, Vancouver Island. Assu's work has been featured in several
notable group exhibits over the past years, How Soon is Now?,
Vancouver Art Gallery; Comic Relief, National Gallery of
Canada; Challenging Traditions: Contemporary First Nations Art of
the Northwest Coast; McMichael Canadian Art Collection, and
Changing Hands: Art Without Reservation Part 2, Museum of Arts and
Design in New York City. A recent solo exhibit, Sonny Assu: As
Defined Within the Indian Act, was held at the Belkin Satellite
Gallery, Vancouver. Assu's work is in the collection of the National
Gallery, the Seattle Art Museum, the Museum of Anthropology at UBC,
and in public and private collections across Canada and the United
States. The artist is represented by the Equinox Gallery in
Vancouver.
This exhibition is guest-curated
by Petra Watson and made possible with financial support from the
Audain Foundation.
Artist's Talk: Wednesday
October 19 at 7pm
+++ FERRY BUILDING GALLERY
+++ http://ferrybuildinggallery.com ~ 925 7290
October 18 - 30 ~~ Sculpture
& Paintings
Mysteries & Histories: Totemic Forms & Other New
Works by Susanna Blunt
Opening Reception October 18 Tuesday 6 -
8pm
Artist in Attendance October 22 Saturday 2 -
3pm
+++ SILK PURSE +++
http://www.silkpurse.ca/gallery2.html
October 18 -
30
~~
"Intercontinental Inspirations"
Artist Shashi Kapoor's multimedia paintings depicting people
and places of inspiration from India to Africa and beyond. Each work
of art invites you into a conversation of reflection and celebration
of those who encourage and motivate us in our lives.
Opening
reception: Tuesday October 18th from 6 - 8pm
November 1 -
13
~~ "Skulls
& Skeletons: ALIVE!"
Lucy
Godwin's paintings are a
vibrant & fun look at the Afterlife, combining influences from New
York street art, Dia de los Muertos & Africa. Described as
"in touch with a raw undercurrent. The themes are universal, her
gestures bold, her use of colour original."
Opening
reception: November 1st Tuesday 6 - 8pm
+++ KAY MEEK CENTRE
+++
Complete list of events: http://kaymeekcentre.com/on_stage/events_calendar
Electronic newsletter: http://kaymeekcentre.weebly.com
Simplest way to get on email list, call
913 3634 (also for tix) or email
tickets@kaymeekcentre.com
Rock'n'Roll Pianomen -- 8pm Friday October 21
PAGE ONE Tuesday, October 25,
2011 7:30PM
PRO NOVA CHAMBRE
ENSEMBLE Wednesday, October 26,
2011 7:30PM
PSWE PRESENTS INVITATION
TO DANCE Saturday, October 29, 2011
8:00PM
JUAN MARTIN Friday, November 4,
2011 8:00PM
THEATRE WEST VAN PRESENTS
CHECKOUT GIRLS
8pm: Fri
Nov 4, Sat Nov 5; Nov 9, 10, 11, 12 ; 16, 17, 18, 19
WITH GLOWING
HEARTS Saturday, November 5,
2011 2:00PM
REMEMBRANCE DAY EDUCATION
PROGRAM Monday, November 7, 2011
12:30PM
IN A BETTER
WORLD Tuesday, November 8, 2011
7:30PM
PAM
GOLDSMITH-JONES Wednesday, November 9, 2011
7:30PM
+++ ROYAL CANADIAN LEGION BRANCH 60, West
Vancouver +++
"Where Volunteers make the difference."
Chartered November 17th, 1926
MEMBERSITE
westvan60.com/membersite
For those of you who use Twitter, you can follow us, Tweet us and
keep up to date with our events.
Follow us: @westvan60 -- Reid Anderson, Branch Secretary
October
CALENDAR OF EVENTS
Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:October Calendar of
Events2.pdf (PDF /=ABIC=BB) (0017E155)
Tuesday, October
25th - General
Meeting
SATURDAY Oct
29th HALLOWE'EN
COSTUME PARTY - PRIZES!! FUN!!
7pm -- Dance to: RAY AND RYAN O'TOOLE
Sunday - October
30th - Veterans'
Social - 2pm
VOLUNTEERS: Pls
write info@westvany60.com or call 922 3587 re Poppy Campaign
+++ WV CHAMBER of COMMERCE + 926
6614 + http://www.westvanchamber.com
Oct 18 - The Power Hour
Location: Delany's Coffee House | Dundarave Village
Have you been to the Chamber's "Power Hour Group"? The
next "Power Hour Group" will be on Tuesday, Oct 18th,
8am-9am at Delany's Coffee House in Dundarave Village. New members are
encouraged to attend Power Hour! We do more business in an hour than
most people do all day. Come and promote your business to an intimate
group of business owners and local professionals all while enjoying
your morning cup of coffee!
Oct 25 - Business to Business Breakfast
Club
Location: Cafe TrafiQ
Meet and mingle with a great group of entrepreneurial members of
the business community - a valuable opportunity to expand your
business through the power of referrals. The next Business to Business
Breakfast Club will be on Tuesday, Oct 25th, 7:45am - 8:45am. Everyone
welcome!
=== CULTUREWATCH
===
*
THEATRE
+ VANCOUVER PLAYHOUSE
THEATRE 604 873 3311
vancouverplayhouse.com
Tosca Cafe --
Movement-theatre piece, starring Peter Anderson (Overcoat fame) and
prima ballerina Sabina Allemann plus Dean Paul Gibson; Oct 8 -
29
+ ARTS
CLUB 687 1644
http://www.artsclub.com
~ Stanley Industrial Alliance
Stage
o Margaret Atwood's The Penelopiad with Meg
Roe. Oct 20 - Nov 20
The untold story of the
original desperate housewife
A husband absent for twenty
years, a sullen teenage son giving lip, tiffs with the
mother-in-law-who wouldn't be desperate? From one of Canada's most
acclaimed writers comes this fresh and witty retelling of The
Odyssey myth. In Margaret Atwood's contemporary
interpretation, Penelope, the long-suffering wife of the hero
Odysseus, finally gets to tell her side of the story. TIX FROM
$29
~ Granville Island
Stage
o Circle
Mirror Transformation Sept 22 - Oct 22
Bill Millerd, the Arts
Club's Artistic Managing Director, says, "Nicola Cavendish,
because of her many years as one of Canada's most inspired and
empathetic performers, was the first person I thought of to direct the
Canadian premiere of a piece that centres on the connections between
individuals."
+ Roedde House
Museum 778 888
2435 itsazoo.org Oct 19
to 31
Debts, written
and directed by Mack Gordon; inspired by Edgar Allen Poe, blend of
live theatre, haunted house, and radio play; eight actors, 15 seats --
book in advance! $19, $15 srs/students.
+ Jericho Arts
Centre 604 224
8007
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum,
Oct 4 to 23rd
+ Metro Theatre 604 266
7191 metrotheatre.org
Making a Killing by John Nassivera Oct 1 -
29
Broadway playwright and actress wife fake his suicide to make
sure his play succeeds
+ The
Cultch (in VanCity Culture
Lab) 604 251 1363 thecultch.com
Us and Them, Headlines Theatre, Oct 20 - Nov
12
+ Hendry Hall
983 2633
The Woman in
Black, English ghost story, Oct 21 - Nov 5
+ Presentation
House 604 990 3474
phtheatre.org Oct 13 - 22
KISMET one to one hundred
-- interviews across Canada of 100 ppl aged 1 to 100 re fate
and destiny; here from Magnetic North Theatre Festival in
Ottawa.
+ Capilano Performing Arts
Theatre 604 990
7810
7 Stories by
Morris Panych; fast-paced, sophisticated, and hilarious play,
endlessly inventive
Oct 19 - 22
www.capilanou.ca/news-events/performingarts.html
+ Norman Rothstein
Theatre
Smile, the Musical, music by Marvin Hamlish, book and
lyrics by Howard Ashman
Oct 26 - 30 tix 604 684 2787
* ART
+ VANCOUVER ART
GALLERY
http://www.vanartgallery.bc.ca/events_and_programs/calendar_of_events.html
~ VAG PUBLIC PROGRAMS -- All Programs free for
Members.
~
Current exhibition: "The Colour of my Dreams"
~ Out for Lunch -- Eine Kleine Lunch Musik -- Select
Fridays, 12:10 - 1pm
+ Equinox Gallery --
Gordon Smith
Sept 16 to Oct 29 ~~ During the
past couple of decades, the esteemed West Vancouver-based painter --
who turned 92 in June -- has produced some of his finest work.
The master of colour and paint continues to explore and express new
visions in a fresh, aggressive style. This show of all new
paintings features marvellous winter forest scenes, and dense,
nocturnal abstractions. 604 736 2405
* MUSIC
+ Vancouver Opera
http://www.vancouveropera.ca/
WEST SIDE STORY -- All performances are at the Queen Elizabeth
Theatre.
Sat Oct 22 (7:30pm); Sun Oct 23 (1:30pm);
7:30pm: Tu Oct 25, Wed Oct 26, Th Oct 27; Fri Oct
28;
Sat
Oct 29 (1:30pm);Sat Oct 29 (7:30pm)
OPENS OCTOBER 22nd!
A masterpiece of music theatre! VO presents the full-scale Broadway
show with Jerome Robbins's original high-energy choreography, a
30-piece live orchestra and a cast of triple-threat
singer-dancer-actors who will knock your socks off!
This 20th century
classic features Leonard Bernstein's most most memorable and thrilling
melodies: "Maria", "Tonight", "Gee, Officer
Krupke". With only eight performances (including two matinees),
this show is sure to sell out. Get your tickets
now!
http://www.vancouveropera.blogspot.com/
Tickets to all VO performances for the
2011/12 season are now available for purchase: West Side Story,
Romeo et Juliette, Barber of Seville, and
Aida.
Persian poetry gets the blues. Iranian
jazz singer Rana Farhan has combined the verses of mystical poets like
Rumi, Hafez and Omar Khayyam to the rhythms of American blues, jazz
and soul. Read about it here.
Opera in
the Community
http://www.vancouveropera.ca/opera-in-the-community.html
VO brings
opera into the community through free public forums, film screenings,
behind-the-scenes events, and other educational
opportunities. Join Doug Tuck, Director of Marketing and Community
Events, for a free Pre-Show Talk at the theatre before each opera
performance. Pre-Show talks begin at 6:30pm in the Mezzanine at the
Queen Elizabeth Theatre on performance nights.
Opera
Speaks in Your Community
In
partnership with the Vancouver Public Library, Vancouver Opera
presents its award-winning series of free public forums on themes and
issues arising from the season's operas.
more...
On The
North Shore
Preview
lectures of upcoming operas through Capilano University's Eldercollege
at the WV Seniors' Centre.
How To Make An
Opera
On Monday 14 November, from 7:30 -
9pm, we present 'how we make an opera' to the good people of the
Carnegie Centre in the DTES. We'll be joined by members of the
Annenberg-Explore cast.
o Bach, Mozart, &
Haydn
8pm Monday Oct
17 Centennial Theatre, North
Vancouver
Bramwell Tovey, conductor; Tracy Dahl,
soprano
Good Etudes for Chamber Ensemble; Emily
Doolittle Four Pieces About Water
Dorothy Chang Chamber Variations; Tim
Brady We're Hardcore
Bach
Orchestral Suite No. 4; Bach Cantata
No. 51, Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen
Mozart
Exultate Jubilate ; Haydn Symphony No.
47
Johannes Sebastian Bach's set
of four orchestral suites were written around 1725, and all are
festive, fun, brilliant examples of the genre; and none are more
lovely than Orchestral Suite No. 4. Bach wrote an enormous
number of extraordinary cantatas, and was a master of the genre.
Mozart's Exultate Jubilate is jubilant and glorious - and
both it and the Bach cantata are perfect vehicles for the sweet,
lyrical tone of soprano Tracy Dahl.
o 7pm
Thursday Oct 20
Stradivarius Ensemble
Of The Mariinsky Theatre Orchestra -- Orpheum Theatre
Valery Gergiev conductor; Alexander
Toradze piano; Timur Martynov trumpet
Strauss:
Metamorphosen; Shostakovich: Piano Concerto No. 1; Tchaikovsky:
Serenade in C Major
o Announcing The 2011/2012
Season!
The 2011/2012 Season
Subscription Campaign has begun. Click here to check out everything
that the exciting new season has in store for you. You can request a
copy of the Season Brochure in the mail, or download a PDF copy of the
Season Brochure, or browse the concerts online and read biographies of
guest artists and conductors. You can also send an email order for
your subscription package. The new VSO season has it all: great
soprano Renee Fleming, pianist Lang Lang, conductor Valery Gergiev,
young jazz and pop sensation Nikki Yanofsky, pianist Jon Kimura Parker
-- and even a return visit by the Wascally Wabbit himself - Bugs
Bunny!
MORE
DETAILS
+ Friends of
Chamber Music at Vancouver
Playhouse 604 437 5747
Tokyo Quartet, 8pm Tues Oct 18
+ Early Music
Vancouver
Early Music Vancouver offers a
remarkable performance: sophisticated and satisfying, the perfect
introduction to our 2011-2012 season.
o Tuesday, 25
October at The Cellar Restaurant & Jazz Club, 3611 West Broadway
at Dunbar
The launch of our
Harpsichord Series at The Cellar Restaurant & Jazz
club
"Hungarian
Flavours" - New & Old Music, performed by Alexander
Weimann
o Friday, 28
October at Christ Church Cathedral, 690 Burrard at West
Georgia
"Canticum
Canticorum": Seventeenth-century settings on texts from the
"Song of Songs": the vocal and instrumental ensemble Les
Voix Baroques (Montreal)
~ Early Music Vancouver, 1254 West 7th
Avenue
*
PHOTOGRAPHY
Call for Painters &
Photographers
The deadline was extended to the end
of September 2011, because of the strike of Canada Post.
Each artist could send two works, 20"
x 30" max size. Subject is OPEN.
Caroun
Photo Club: Meetings are held the third Wednesday of every month, 7 -
9pm at the Silk Purse Arts Ctr. Visitors are welcome. Info:
www.carounphotoclub.com.
* WRITERS
FESTIVAL
Vancouver Int'l Writers Festival Granville Island
Oct 18 to 23, 604 629 8849 writersfest.bc.ca
=== NATURE WALKS ===
contact David Cook 924-0147 <cookeco2@yahoo.com>
> Thursday October 20th
Meeting location: Unity Church, 5840 Oak St,
Vancouver. Meeting time: 7:30 pm
Talk description: Southern Oregon is not that far from
British Columbia in distance but geologically and botanically it seems
much farther. The unique geology that is found there has
allowed an unusual set of plants to evolve. The BC naturalist finds
many old friends in southern Oregon but also many, often rare, new
species. This talk will look at the familiar and the unfamiliar
aspects of the plants, birds, animals and landscapes of this
fascinating region.
Ron Long was a professional photographer at Simon Fraser
University for 36 years. Now retired, he travels extensively
and enjoys sharing his experiences and photographs with
interested groups.
> Saturday October 22nd
Mosquito Creek Old Growth forest: A slow interpretive hike in
mountainous terrain.
An event for Nature Vancouver.
Meeting location: At the top of Skyline Drive, North
Vancouver.
Meeting time: 10:00 am. Duration: About 4 to 5
hours (including lunch beneath the old trees).
Terrain: Rough and steep along many sections. Deep-tread hiking
boots with ankle support are essential. Do not wear sneakers. Wooden
cross ties on skid roads can be very slippery and dangerous if wet.
This field trip is for hikers experienced with rough, steep and
slippery terrain. Difficulty rating is C4-C5 (Don't know how
to use Difficulty Ratings? Log onto
www.naturevancouver.ca and click
on Field Trips)Elevation gain: Approximately 300 metres. Trip
Leader: David Cook.
Join me for a hike up the south-east slopes of Grouse Mountain to
see the Mosquito Creek old growth redcedar forest. This forest
of dozens of veteran redcedars up to 3 meters in diameter is the
largest remaining fragment of old growth redcedar in the Vancouver
area. The hike up to this forest takes about 2 hours along skid roads.
The elevation gain from the Skyline Drive parking area to the old
growth redcedar is about 300 meters. Other highlights will be a
separate patch of old growth Douglas-firs and a forest of Pacific yew
trees, some of which are old growth.
Meet at 10am at the top of Skyline Drive which is off
Montroyal Boulevard in North Vancouver.
Estimated time of return: mid-afternoon. Bring lunch and water
and prepare for changes in weather.
This event goes rain or shine.
An event for the Vancouver Natural History Society (Nature
Vancouver).
Registration is not required. Membership in Nature Vancouver is
required after the third field trip with the society.
=== SUBSCRIBER EMAIL UPDATE A
=== Oct 6
World Smile Day 2011 October 7
Don't forget, Oct 7 is deadline for input re the DWV
website.
Hope you got the PS.
First, some highlights from the Oct 3rd ccl mtg -- a
marathon that went almost to 11:30pm!
After that:
Website Survey input deadline; AmblesideNOW PSB; GFOA Award
for DWV; Welch Street Safety Improvements (traffic pattern changes);
UBCM Heritage Resoln; Hands Off Our Lands; Steve Jobs's Personal
Life; Kains vs Marley; Breaking News (ON election; Nobel Peace Prize;
Archbishop Tutu's 80th Birthday); Panda-monium; Qtns/Pun {moved to end of this newsletter}
o Oct 3rd Ccl Mtg:
= PH on Kiwanis Devt closed, then three readings;
virtually all in support but bizarre that they're not including small
bachelor stes b/c when you have seniors with incomes $12K to $19K,
their rent at about $400 whereas the new units may start at $750.
Why won't Kiwanis verify rents? and what about the few who haven't
found accommodation yet? Ccl asked Kiwanis to do their best (and
gave impression they wd watch).
The agenda order was amended to have the bylaws follow rather
than wait until Item 16. When asked about having a new proposal
with more small units, the Planner said that the process wd hv to
start again. Groans. Then the Mgr of Cmnty Planning passed
a note. Turns out in the case of Kiwanis, calculations are not
based on number of units, rather on FAR (sq ftg), so no need to have
another PH. Good news.
= Delegation from WV Historical Society -- excellent and good
suggestions to establish WGs/Cmtes that involved
similar/interested parties (such as arts, culture, heritage), IOW
collaboration. That really is the way to go so it's not one
group acting on its own without regard for others. Well done,
WVHS. [Text will be in WVM21.]
= Report on PSB; info on past, some material (but Polman's
Five still not all answered); good that public consultation/input (why
on earth did they not do or schedule it in the first place? it took
residents' questioning to find out what had happened and the basis for
some decisions). The good news is the delay means the public can
have their say starting in January. Read the report attached to
this item on the ccl agenda.
= AmblesideNOW expenditures to Aug 31
= DVP Applic for 1148 20th carried. To my horror only
when Sop referred to it as the Murrell residence did I realize
with a jolt it was George Murrell's house -- I'm checking b/c we had
considered it heritage. Aimee's father (I think it was father,
but it was a relative) was an early reeve or alderman in WV and her
volunteering with vanDusen produced a great garden. So I drove
past after the mtg and saw it was already gone with a drawing on a
sign showing it will be replaced by three houses. The variances
are for sideyards so guess it's to enable three houses rather than two
on a lot that had one house with a large garden. :-( What a
loss. Now will make suggestion b/c anxious that there be
consideration of heritage value whether formally on the Register or on
the Heritage Inventory or the early heritage list.
= TransLink presentation to give their pitch since the
Mayors are to vote on the funding on Friday. It was reported
that our Mayor was going to support the two-cent gas increase and a
prop tax wch wd result in an add'l $23 for the average homeowner (wch
we all know will be much more in WV with its high assessments).
Mayor Brodie of Burnaby was on CBC saying he'd agree to the gas tax
but not the property tax increase b/c two years ago the mayors had
agreed not to approve any more prop taxes and there were also some
funding sources not yet identified. We'll find out on
Friday.
= Pacific Arbour (Wetmore) proposed revisions approved as well
as non-enforcement of the noise control bylaw (at specified
times).
= Rezoning and DVP Applic for Shell Gas Stn at 1305 Marine Dr
PH to be held Nov 7.
= Proposed Pk R at-grade intersection on Marine Dr -- was
the surprise highlight of the evening. As a result of changing
plans by PkR, problems re replacement of the bridge, and considerable
amt of public objection/displeasure, staff has taken a v bold and
laudable step. They want a re-evaluation (called MAE, a Multiple
Accounts Evaluation) to review the proposal. PkR of course
was upset saying it was a precedent to overturn a decision (approval)
previously made and in a vote 5 to 2. IMO the reasoning given by
the CAO and the Dir/Engg was valid. Discussion moved it to
something less of the broader study staff wanted -- just a peer
review. Smith sounded impatient (in a hurry to leave?) wanting
to approve that but two things, thank heaven, brought it back to a
broader review suggested by staff: Sop's emotional plea and the
Mayor's shock at learning a peer review wd merely be traffic, not even
take into account pedestrians or cyclists! They recommended a
WG too. Staff won! Well done.
= DVP Applic for 1365 28th will be considered Nov 7.
= Reports, Correspondence, Other Items postponed.
= PQP: Yours Truly [YT] praised staff's suggestion for a review
of the at-grade intersection [given PkR's changed plans]; asked why WG
webpages missing Notes and not up- to-date; wanted to know how long a
resident has to wait for replies to questions or correspondence; mused
about the process for the Murrell house (considered heritage by
many). I asked b/c my questions from Sept 12th and earlier
in the year were not answered Sept 19. (One unanswered question
was from June/July 2010.)
In spite of the late hour the Mayor made a few comments in
response: didn't matter about the notes b/c a final report was given
to Ccl; she will look into fact some cmtes do not appear on the
Calendar; she does not believe staff take a long time to reply; no one
had brought up heritage wrt the Murrell house.
Well, since WGs produce reports for Ccl, I don't accept Notes
missing (in once case from Oct 2009 to March 2010, in another case,
Parks Master Plan has no notes for mtgs held July 4, 12, 26, Aug, and
Sept, IOW since June; interesting that it's the same ccl liaison) is
all right if a report produced. They all write reports!
Furthermore, without notes there's no record of who attended the mtg
and/or if visiting speakers or visitors.......
~ END at 11:27 but the PH took an hour
and a half. ~
AND now the details . . . . .
. . .
o WEBSITE
SURVEY -- The M Hall says: We Want Your Input!
The purpose of this
survey is to collect your feedback on the District's website and any
services you would like to see added in the future.
http://www.westvancouver.ca/Level3.aspx?id=35652
TAKE
THE SURVEY!
The survey ends October 7.
o AmblesideNow
Advances the Public Safety Building
Media Release Tuesday, October 4, 2011 - West Vancouver,
BC: The District of West Vancouver continues to advance
AmblesideNow with detailed analysis on the concept of a new public
safety building to replace the existing police building and fire hall
#1. The public safety building would house fire and police services in
one post-disaster building to be constructed on the municipal site
located at 17th Street and Esquimalt Avenue. By re-locating the police
station from Marine Drive (1300 Block) to the municipal site, the 1300
Block of Marine Drive would be available for
revitalization.
Mayor Pamela Goldsmith-Jones says,
"Our Council is launching public consultation for a new public
safety building. The next Council will engage with the community on
this important project."
The total anticipated cost of
building a public safety building is estimated at $39.5 million.
The building will not facilitate integration of fire and police
because of their different operational requirements, but it will
result in efficiencies and cost savings to the taxpayer by maximizing
shared space and infrastructure in a single public safety
building.
With the report received by Council,
staff will work to develop a public consultation to begin in
2012. Public consultation will focus on receiving public
comment on the size, scope, design, location, cost, funding sources
and timeline for the new building.
Since July 2010, substantial work has
been done to evaluate the overall feasibility of the project. In
addition, the Ambleside Revitalization Commission, which is comprised
of expert community volunteers, has reviewed the project and is
confident that it can be achieved within the current estimate of $39.5
million.
http://www.westvancouver.ca/uploadedFiles/Your_Government/Agendas_and_Minutes/2011/October/11oct03-10.pdf
o The Government Finance Officers Association has
awarded the District with the Budget Presentation Award for the 2011
Five-Year Financial Plan - Proposed Budget Book.
o Welch Street Pedestrian and Traffic Safety
Improvements
Tuesday,
October 04, 2011
-- In consultation with Squamish Nation, the District of West
Vancouver is initiating pedestrian and traffic safety improvements.
These improvements will take place:
- along the
north side of Welch Road, from the District of North Vancouver's
western border to Bridge Road
- along
Bridge Road, from underneath Lions Gate Bridge to the Capilano River
north of the existing Capilano River bridge crossing
The project
begins October 4 and is expected to be completed in
mid-December. This scheduled construction is part of
the District's 2011 Capital Project improvements. Work will include
include routine resurfacing of the roadway and completion of a
separated pedestrian trail on the north side of Welch
Road.
Traffic
Pattern Changes
Welch Street will be reduced to single
alternating lanes from October 4 until October 11.
The corridor
will be closed from 7:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m., Monday to Friday from
October 11 until the paving and pedestrian safety enhancements are
completed.
The detour for
the closure directs traffic north on Capilano Road to Marine
Drive.
We apologize for
any inconvenience this work may cause and encourage all drivers and
pedestrians to slowdown and pay extra attention to the
road.
o UBCM 2011 Convention Resolution -
Heritage
B69 RETURN TO
HERITAGE FUNDING Kelowna
WHEREAS heritage
generally throughout Canada is suffering due to the economic downturn,
the loss of provincial government support in 2008 with the withdrawal
of provincial funding for the Heritage Branch (Ministry of Tourism,
Trade and Investment), Heritage BC, as well as community-based
organizations throughout the province, means that community heritage
resources are at risk for deterioration and loss;
AND WHEREAS
heritage is an important asset for economic development in British
Columbia as a draw for cultural tourism, one of the fastest growing
segments of the tourism industry and the loss of heritage resources
and the opportunity for people to experience the unique identity of
communities in BC could further negatively impact on the local and
provincial economy:
THEREFORE BE
IT RESOLVED that the provincial government adopt Heritage BC's
"Call to Renew British Columbia's Heritage" initiative
by:
- Adopting the Provincial Heritage Strategy,
completed in 2009 but never implemented;
- Restoring the budget for the Heritage Branch,
Ministry of Tourism, Trade and Investment;
- Resolving the heritage properties question,
which includes issues related to provincially-owned heritage
properties;
- Restoring community support through
governmental initiatives including programming and gaming
funds;
- Reinvesting in the Heritage Legacy Fund in
order to support long-range heritage conservation work throughout the
province.
ENDORSED BY
THE SOUTHERN INTERIOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION
UBCM RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION:
Endorse
PASSED
o HANDS OFF OUR LANDS CAMPAIGN
(UK)
The Telegraph's Hands Off Our
Land campaign is calling for the Coalition to look again at proposed
changes to planning laws which risk undermining the safeguards that
have protected the countryside for almost 70 years. Follow the latest
developments here.
more
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ photos
o Steve Jobs's
Personal Life
+ We've all been hearing
about the wonderful things Jobs did and his remarkable influence on
today's world, but what was his background?
Jobs was born on Feb. 24,
1955, to Joanne Simpson and Abdulfattah Jandali, an unwed couple who
put their first-born son up for adoption. Raised by Paul and Clara
Jobs, Steven Paul Jobs grew up in California and displayed a keen
interest in electronics from an early age.
In high school, he met a
kindred spirit in Steve Wozniak, a man who shared his passion for
technology as well as practical jokes. The friendship would play a key
role in the development of Apple and the career trajectory of
Jobs.
+ In 1978, Jobs's first
daughter, Lisa, was born - although initially he denied he was the
father.
In the 1980s, he began the
process of reconciling with his daughter - and learned of his birth
parents.
He married his current wife,
Laurene Powell, in 1991. They would have three children
together.
+ Jobs
married Laurene
Powell, on March 18,
1991. Presiding over the wedding was the Zen Buddhist monk
Kobun Chino Otogawa.[86] The
couple have a son and two daughters.[87] Jobs also has a daughter, Lisa Brennan-Jobs (born 1978), from his relationship
with Bay Area painter Chrisann Brennan.[88] She briefly raised their daughter on welfare when
Jobs denied paternity by claiming he was sterile; he later
acknowledged Lisa as his daughter.[88]
+ More details from Wiki
Jobs was born
in San Francisco[1] and
was adopted by the family of Paul Jobs and Clara Jobs (née Hagopian) of Mountain View, California.[31] Paul and Clara later adopted a daughter, Patti.
Jobs's biological parents-Abdulfattah John Jandali,
a Syrian
Muslim immigrant
to the U.S.,[32][33] who later became a political science professor
at the University of
Nevada and is presently
a vice president of Boomtown Hotel Casino in Reno, Nevada,[34] and Joanne Schieble (later Simpson), an American
graduate student[35]
of Swiss and German
ancestry[36] who
went on to become a speech language pathologist[37]-eventually married. The marriage produced Jobs'
biological sister, novelist Mona Simpson; the two of them first met in 1986 as adults and
enjoyed a close relationship since, with Jobs regularly visiting
Simpson in Manhattan. From Simpson, Jobs learned more about their
birth parents and he invited his biological mother Joanne to some
events.[38][39] Jandali claims that he didn't want to put Jobs up
for adoption but that Simpson's parents did not approve of her
marrying a Syrian. Jandali's few attempts to contact Jobs were
unsuccessful;[40]
Jobs did not contact his biological father either.[41] Jandali gave an interview
to The
Sun in August 2011
when Jobs resigned as CEO of Apple.
o MARLEY
vs KAINS
Marley lost; here's the judgment
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/SC/11/13/2011BCSC1306.htm
o BREAKING
NEWS:
+
ONTARIO
McGuinty wins (albeit a minority govt) a
third term (not done since 1930s?).
Ontario now has a minority government. The Liberals are one seat
short of a majority, according to reports. The total seat count is now
53 for the Liberals, 37 for the Progressive Conservatives and 17 for
the NDP. Counting at some polls not yet complete.
For the first time in history voter turnout was below 50%.
+ NOBEL PEACE
PRIZE
Friday, October 7, 2011 -- 5:13 AM EDT -- OSLO,
Norway (AP)
Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, Liberian activist
Leymah Gbowee, and Tawakul Karman of Yemen have won the 2011 Nobel
Peace Prize.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee honoured the three women "for
their non-violent struggle for the safety of women and for women's
rights to full participation in peace-building work."
Read More:
http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na
+ ARCHBISHOP Desmond
Tutu
His 80th birthday is being celebrated in South Africa. A
pity South Africa did not provide a visa for his fellow Nobel Peace
Prize winner, the Dalai Lama, in time for him to celebrate with
Archbishop Tutu.
o
PANDAS -- Panda-monium in China as 12 cubs shown
off
CBC News Posted: Oct 6, 2011 12:07PM
E
http://www.cbc.ca/news/offbeat/story/2011/10/06/panda-baby-video-stub.html
=== COUNCIL MTG NOTES
Monday Oct 3rd ===
5pm in M HALL MAIN FLOOR CONFERENCE
ROOM; 7pm in M HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER
(PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING
AT 7pm IN COUNCIL CHAMBER
followed by regular CCL MTG TO
RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION IN COUNCIL CHAMBER)
Note: At 5pm the regular Council Meeting will
commence in open session (in the main floor conference room), and will
be immediately followed by a motion to exclude the public.... At
7pm the Public Hearing/Public Meeting will be held in the Chamber. The
(open) Ccl Mtg will reconvene immediately following the PH/Public
Meeting.
5:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER OPEN SESSION
EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC
2. RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, mbrs
of the public be excluded...under the following section of the
Cmnty Charter:
90. (1) A part of a ccl mtg may be closed
to the public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is
one or more of the following:
a. personal information about an
identifiable individual who holds or is being considered for a
position as an officer, employee or agent of the municipality or
another position appointed by the municipality;
e. the acquisition, disposition, or
expropriation of land or improvements, if the council considers that
disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the
municipality;
g. litigation
or potential litigation affecting the municipality;
and
k.
negotiations and related discussions respecting the proposed provision
of a municipal service that are at their preliminary stages and that,
in the view of the council, could reasonably be expected to harm the
interests of the municipality if they were held in
public.
ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION
3. Council will then proceed with the closed session.
PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING
NOTES
Note: At 7pm the PH/Public
Mtg will commence in the Ccl Chamber. The Ccl Mtg will reconvene
immediately following the PH for consideration of the scheduled agenda
items.
{NB:
Obviously this is 'best efforts' since I type while ppl speak.
If unfamiliar with the abbreviations, acronyms, and initialisms, pls
refer to www.westvan.org/glossary and if you want to
check something or listen to the whole comment/speech/remarks being
made, use the timestamp to find that place on the videotape of the ccl
mtg (wch is on the DWV website).}
7:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor: and celebrate the great turn-out tonight! and turn
it over to Mr Sokol
2. PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING
The Director of Planning, Lands and Permits will describe the
subject application.
Applicant: Kiwanis Seniors Housing
Society of West Vancouver
Subject Lands: 900 Block 21st Street
(Kiwanis Site)
Purpose: Kiwanis has applied to
redevelop one of its three properties to provide seniors' low-cost
housing. The proposal involves building two new apartment buildings
that will include resident amenity space and gardens, new landscaping,
and underground parking. The proposal requires an amendment to the
Official Community Plan (OCP) and the Zoning Bylaw, which are
described below.
Proposed OCP Bylaw Amendment: If
adopted, Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004, Amendment Bylaw
No. 4694, 2011 would amend Policy BF-B7 to allow for a care
facility or seniors' low-cost housing to be developed at a maximum
Floor Area Ratio of 1.5. The existing BF-B7 policy allows for a
maximum Floor Area Ratio of 1.5 for a care facility and 1.15 for
seniors' low-cost housing.
Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment: If
adopted, Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4689, 2011
would amend the 'CD5-Comprehensive Development Zone 5' to divide the
existing "Area 2" into "Area 2" and "Area
3".
The amendment would allow for the following within "Area
3":
* apartment buildings for
seniors' low-cost housing;
* maximum Floor Area Ratio of
1.5;
* maximum Lot (site) Coverage of
45%; and
* maximum Building Height of 16.2
metres and up to five storeys.
Proposed Development Cost Charge Waiver
Bylaw: If adopted, Development Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw No. 4695,
2011 would waive 100% of the District of West Vancouver Development
Cost Charges (DCCs) payable pursuant to Development Cost Charge Bylaw
No. 3801, 1993, for not-for-profit rental housing in the 900 Block of
21st Street by the Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society of West
Vancouver.
Proposed Development Permit
Application: If the Official Community Plan Amendment and Zoning
Amendment bylaws described above are approved, the applicant will be
required to construct the development in accordance with a Development
Permit approved by Council. Proposed Development Permit No. 11-005
imposes requirements and conditions for the development of the subject
lands, including:
* Two apartment buildings comprising of
a four-storey building on the east side of the property and a
five-storey building on the west side;
* Maximum Floor Area Ratio of 1.5 and
maximum site coverage of 45%;
* 49 underground parking spaces and 8
surface parking spaces;
* Resident amenity spaces and gardens;
and
* New landscaping.
3. PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING PROCEDURE
Mayor Goldsmith-Jones will describe the
procedure for the PH and Public Meeting as follows.......
4. REPORTS/WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS
1) Reports received up to and including
September 29, 2011:
TITLE
/
DATE / DATE FOR CONSIDERATION
/ NO.
2) Written submissions received up to and including September 29, 2011:
To view all written submissions (including On-Table items) click
here.http://www.westvancouver.ca/uploadedFiles/Your_Government/Agendas_and_Minutes/2011/October/11oct03-C1-C18.pdf
AUTHOR
/ DATE
/ DATE FOR CONSIDERATION
/ NO.
North Shore Volunteers for Seniors
/ September 14, 2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-1
H. Gaffney / September 12,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-2
J. and S. Bishop / September
18, 2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-3
A. Wood / September 20, 2011
/ October 3, 2011 / C-4
E. Tischler and K. Masada /
September 19, 2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-5
M. Brough / September 19,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-6
Homecare West / September 20,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-7
A. Morgan-Dann / September 19,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-8
R. Sultan, MLA West Vancouver-Capilano
/ September 21, 2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-9
A. Wong / September 24, 2011
/ October 3, 2011 / C-10
B. Hanna / September 16, 2011
/ October 3, 2011 / C-11
R. Ryan / September 26, 2011
/ October 3, 2011 / C-12
E. Minish / September 26,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-13
The Rotary Club of West Vancouver /
September 28, 2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-14
L. Anderson / September 23,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-15
G. Lynum / September 27, 2011
/ October 3, 2011 / C-16
P. Doherty / September 22,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-17
D. Gilbert / September 28,
2011 / October 3, 2011 /
C-18
On Sept 12, Council set the date... On Sept 16, notices were mailed to
owners/occupiers within the notification area. The statutory notice of
PH/Public Mtg was published in the NSN on Sept
25 and Sept 28. The M Clerk will note written submissions received for
the Oct 3 PH/Public Mtg.
Sokol: and I'll turn it over to Lisa Berg
LB: Slides and then I'll turn it over to Bob Heaslip; Kiwanis
Court and Manor
plan to demolish the older building; total after 300 a net gain
of 86 units
OCP low-cost srs' housing, FAR 1.15 being increased to 1.5FAR;
Zoning Comprehensive Devt Zone 5 for all three props; creating Area 3;
four- and five-storey bldg, with 45% site coverage, 16.2m ht
[descriptions with slides] 21st entrance
wd ask Bob Heaslip as Prez of Kiwanis
5. APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION
Mayor: we've had presentation by staff but not procedures
yet
wd like Ms Scholes's advice
Ssch: can listen to this first
BH: here with board, team ready to answer questions, and
residents, some still with concerns
thank Ccl and staff to get this far; since January
reached project v balanced, met concerns of DRC
thx, help re waiver fees and charges
became involved in this four years ago; my mum lived in the Manor
and enjoyed her last years so well there... joy to do this, pleasure
to work, for WV seniors with low incomes
consultative process, relocated 51 understanding moving
back
rental rates have not been finalized yet.
Kiwanis Court/Manor not affected, stay and rents the same; any
increases, RTAct
37 moving back; 175 hopeful seniors on our waiting list
{how many from WV??? keep in
mind ppl from all over the world wd be delighted to live
here!}
garden village project; must and will take into account all costs
[listed] to reach balance on rents
lands already paid for; mortgage rates, govt funding, work with
SAFER, etc to offset rents; sought waiver of DWV fees $800K
tremendous help; this is a $19M project
know rents are a concern; Bd fair reasonable, can't guesstimate
b/c too many complexities involved
Kiwanis Court is debt-free, so backup, cd remortgage to help in
rent review......
bd willing to provide updates.......
Charlene and Karen are av for a short presentation
Mayor: that's adequate for now
[gave procedures; and then MClerk gave background]
6. PUBLIC INPUT
Viv Christisen (sp?): Lionsview, bd mbrs here, housing did
survey, 1100 (report will be released soon); seniors love living
here
housing close to services, housing with no stairs, ..... close to
water or nature...... want garden apt
good location and design primary reason for supporting this
project
sales of old homes not kept pace with purchase
re rent, pensions, [seniors'] incomes not kept up
one person wrote working part-time, using savings, only then able
to make ends meet -- unsustainable
even small increase in rent, hardship; add'n of units agreed
needed
second reason, delivers scarce rental housing; 86 rental
stes at low end, an achievement
third reason to support, rents at low market; we celebrate
this
thank Ccl over the years, hope waive DCCs; all helps
Kiwanis provides wonderful homes for seniors.
Laura Anderson: here to read a letter from Karen Bower who lives
in K Court and is unable to be here tonight.
Another aspect; urge you to vote in favour
shortly before 58th birthday, looking forward to working to
65
in recovery able to move to Lower Mainland...... fire; had
to move
...... moved to K Park,..... moved into one-bedroom
process to relocate not done v well; but open to suggestions and
make changes
hand up, find new; give others opp to turn lemons into
lemonade
Jim McCarthy: involved in many cmnty activities
aware of good works of Kiwanis over the years providing low-cost
housing for seniors
attended public info last month and became more informed of needs
seniors have
WV characterized as high-income cmnty; large number of our
seniors in 65 and over -- reminded me, I too am that statistic
didn't realize until last month or so that number of our popn
ageing at a rate we hadn't anticipated
over
3,000 {but it sounded as if he said
33,000} live on $20K or less, many are long-time residents
who have contributed to this 'place of excellence'; our home, don't
want to move
Housing WG and Cmnty Plan -- senior housing a priority
seniors' housing differs
Hollyburn House, Amica, and (proposed) assisted living at 22nd
and Marine -- serve a need for those able to afford it
Kiwanis serves a diff need; low-cost quality housing for sr
citizens
need we as a cmnty need to address
I'm not a Kiwanis mbr, not eligible but do admire K club mbrs and
their commitment to meet this need
urge Ccl to support
Peggy Doherty: 89; didn't think I'd be alive to be here
assisted living component; don't cook and don't do dishes
know hard to lose some of the trees; for every one removed, five
will replace
if I'm happy my daughter is happy; pls endorse
[7:38] Michael Pope: ... need predicted to increase
av size 660 to 538sf incorrect; av is 670sf
515sf in past; the bachelor units av 400sf; we've been
supersized
WV has run out of low-cost land; last opp to address this
particular need
slightly less than $410 - $475 [7:42]
offered $750 to $820 relocated -- in NV with promise; unable
to get commitment of rent
not likely pay less for a new xxx than for an old xxx bachelor
unit
If, as Bob says, come back and pay same rent, no prob; my primary
is that these ppl get looked after
these 35 ppl evicted with little hope of return
not for one moment think represents xxx; we need to find a way to
help them
Mayor: near?
MP: two paragraphs; make a small xxx
60 to charming 95-yr old can get around; need more small
units
BC non-profit housing 35% shd be bachelor's
looking at 75 one-bed, 85 bachelor's
Naomi P reading for Ivor Bennett: meetings; looking alternate
accomm exemplary; way to adjust rents
Dolly Cartwright: impressed with including residents in
consultation; in keeping with
some of us srs are volunteers
add'l 86 stes music to our ears; wonderful this is being brought
forward
Carl Parker: friend 88 left last year; husband and friend; 16
grandchildren....etc....
Joan, life-long learner........ graceful elegant ageing in
place
Gary Fenton: family background, moved to NSh 1920s, my family to
WV in 1950s
talking about low cost housing [7:55]
diff for ppl to stay on NSh; add'l 86 units; great design;
encourage support
Peter Gaskill: representing Pacific Arbour
fantastic Kiwanis going to add units, same as ours at 22nd; no
discrimination re income; same benefits
been in this biz for 20 years, good quality, impressed; best
value; too bad rents can't be stated today
know they'll be able at low
[7:59] didn't catch name of the man and PH minutes still not on
DWV website: congratulate Kiwanis for what they're doing; fantastic
job, wonder if doing enough
raised the issue over a year ago
about zoning; prop on 22nd classified as lot 1 is supposedly
owned by Vanc Coastal Health and that bldg not being fully
utilized; been put up for sale at $12M
question raised that whole block reserved for srs' housing, if
that on 21st zone 1, if given back to Kiwanis wd they take it back and
devp
hear wait list of over 100 ppl yet only 86 units
we don't know who owns that prop at this time, don't think
VCHealth; heard First Nations; don't think Mayor or our MLA know
before approving this, look at lot 1 as an add'l opp for
Kiwanis
devpr reversed its stand b/c native band put a claim on the
prop
Kiwanis doing a perfect job; pity not take advantage of entire
site
Bob Heaslip: we were second bidder, it is still under claim by
two First Nations bands
cdn't wait anymore, waiting list growing, so went
ahead; we may well be interested if available
Mayor: think the owner is VCH
Sokol: my understanding still; WV controls zoning so wd hv to
comply
Mayor: prov; subject to sale, First Nations
Bob Clark: Rockridge 40 years; a lot of volunteering in cmnty, on
Kiwanis xxx board
take the opp to congratulate the Mayor on service for last nine
years, whatever your endeavour whether Nashville or
{LAUGHTER;
reference to the Mayor's
performance, singing at the civic reception Friday
night}
Mayor: better give him another 40 seconds!
Clark: years ago, sky was going to fall, sirens hauling ppl off,
noise from srs' parties, and now most don't know it's there
on weekend watched some baseball and reminded of movie Field of
Dreams -- if you build it they will come -- if we build it 175 on
list; built 135 in their dreams
our mandate affordable housing for seniors
won't change as long as I'm here; volunteers working really
hard
exploring avenues re funding, rates, keep rents as affordable as
possible
committed to this project, our cmnty, and our residents
will proceed asap; thank you for your support and approval
Ali Shahidi: architect; living in Kiwanis Manor for two
years
purpose: affordable seniors' housing
income won't be changed therefore the rent [shd be kept
low]
$460 to $465 now but see increasing to $700, respectable; entire
life served this country, today to serve these ppl
architect design shd respect human standards
# of parking is not responding to the demand of this
project
many places in world, US, China, nowhere as low as this
project, esp for the visitors
Father's Day, Mother's Day, chn come to visit -- have to go
all around the area [looking for parking]
other issue is storage; all over world storage in the basement
-- spare tires, etc; here, put in the ste; count storage as living
area; how expect to lug it?
[8:15] Doug Maxwell: a resident of K Court, also a mbr of the K
Club, am a past mbr of the K Bldg Society. As I am a resident
I'm no longer allowed to be a mbr of the Society. Definitely
these have to b be built; before, you have to get some idea what the
rents will be. They know the cost, they know the add'l av cost,
maintenance -- allow so much for maintenance, it runs somewhere
between 8 and 12%, depending on the type of bldg you have, also for
replacement value, somewhere between 12.5 and 15%. So they have
these figures; they wd then wd know how many ppl they wd have to hire,
they can put that in and have their full costs. Divided by the
number of units they will have, based on the sizes and they cd give
you some kind of an idea of the rent. They might not be able
to sy $723.16 a month, but they shd be able to say somewhere between
$700 and $750. So that is what I wd Ccl to take a v good look
at.
Thank you.
Dan Walsh: have an idea why needed; coming out of hospital;
building our cmnty we need to pay attention to need
v much in keeping; encourage project
Mayor: anyone further wishing to speak for first time?
Then
Michael Pope: look at cost and sq ftg
Personal view, don't need the size
going ahead building these places saying SAFER will make up the
difference
SAFER is going directly into the taxpayer's pocket
1400 ppl ready to move into bldgs now, if magically able to
move into apts now rather than 400sf wch has proved to be adequate for
so many years, wd represent a drain on the prov of $3M a
year
[fewer and fewer] young ppl and more and more old to
support
load on young ppl
not going to get another opp -- do we need to make all these
suitable for wheelchairs? I don't see many wheelchairs at
the present time
bachelor units not for perfect for wheelchairs but for a
stroller or walker okay
Mayor: third and final time, anyone else?
7. CLOSURE OR ADJOURNMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING/PUBLIC MEETING
If there is no further public input and Council does not
request a further staff report:
MS moved: ... be
closed.
CARRIES [8:21]
4. RECONVENE OPEN SESSION of the Oct 3 regular Council
Meeting
Mayor: that concludes our PH and we're going to move into our
public ccl mtg
I believe it may make sense to move if Ccl's interested, the
Kiwanis decision to the front since we are all here, but I will
convene the open session of our ccl mtg now.
just quickly ask Cclr Smith for motion to adopt the minutes
Sop or MS?: agenda?
Mayor: just get that done -- sorry?
sounded like CAO: move/approval of the agenda?
Mayor: we did that; we did that in the 5 o'clock -- try to keep
up; that was three and a half hours ago
{some chuckles}
Cclr Smith, a motion to adopt the minutes
MS: vary, after adoption of minutes wch we just did
Mayor: invite ppl to speak excluding closed PHs
{These notes will
be hard to follow. I have left them as the agenda appeared but
they moved 16 to now b/c it's Kiwanis and made sense to have them
together. To get the discussion you have to go to BYLAWS (search
for 8:24, and it goes to 8:30 after and before, marked with
*******
REALLY confusing is
that fact that although the Gd Nbr item (9) is on this open regular
agenda, it was dealt with at 5 o'clock as the Mayor alludes to.
That's why the agenda was approved then.
Perhaps the CAO
asked about the agenda so that the public wd not think it had been
skipped and cd follow? The Gd Nbr item was quite a debate
-- lasted about 40 minutes and I had to watch it on the website to get
it. It reads like a sitcom.
[5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA vary 16
after.....] }
[8:21]
6. ADOPTION OF MINUTES,
September 12 and 19 Regular Council Meeting
Minutes
Minutes to be provided on September 30, 2011.
RECOMMENDED: ... be adopted as circulated
{you
mean still not ready??? They used to be done
weekly!}
Minutes provided on September 30,
2011.
=85 September 12, 2011 Regular Council
Meeting;
and
=85
September 19, 2011 Regular Council Meeting.
DELEGATIONS
7. M. Rahbar, regarding Civic
Association of Iranian Canadians
(File: 0055-01)
DELEGATIONS
7. M. Rahbar, regarding Civic
Association of Iranian Canadians
(File: 0055-01)
WITHDRAWN
8. R. Day, West Vancouver Historical
Society, regarding Arts Facilities on Argyle (File:
0055-20-WVMH1)
[8:40] Rod Day: Rob Morris new mbr will speak
Morris: about where FBG stands
now understand you have reconsidered and will not put on that
site so no need to go into that
this decision by itself doesn't address two important
[concerns]
{text supplied, my
bolding:
Rob
Morris, Director, West Vancouver Historical Society
We are
here tonight to speak to our written report opposing the Arts in
Ambleside proposal.
This
proposal would put a building on the site where the Ferry Building
currently stands. The Ferry Building is designated as a heritage
site.
We now
understand that you have reconsidered the project and have decided not
to put the building on this site.
This
satisfies our most immediate concern. There is no need for us to state
our specific objections here tonight.
However, this decision, by itself, does not deal
with two important underlying questions:
1.
What is the future for heritage properties in Ambleside (and
elsewhere)?
2.
Where do we build facilities for the
arts?
To resolve
these questions, we need to set up a way to work together so we can
avoid having another conflict like this one.
We've
spent some time thinking about this; we have some suggestions. In a
few minutes, Rod Day will describe these to you.
Before he
does, I would like to take a few minutes to emphasize a couple of
points that [underlie] our recommendations:
First, I
want to make a point about heritage properties.
Specifically, the Ferry Building:
1.
People often think of this as just a quaint old building that's being
used for a small art gallery;
.
There's much more to it than that;
.
There's huge value here;
.
The value is not just in this single building.
2.
The value is in the cluster of properties that includes the Ferry
Building, the Ambleside Pier, and the Waterfront;
. Together these properties are an integral
set;
.
Remove any one of the components, or break the connections between any
of them, and the value of the whole thing is lost;
.
Without the Pier, or without the Waterfront site, and the physical and
conceptual connections between them, the Ferry Building is just an
assembly of old lumber; it would have no context;
.
We need all the elements of this cluster; together.
3. This cluster of properties has
always been an important public place.
.
West Van started here at Ambleside as a place to get away from the
city;
.
It became a hub for transportation, and a place for recreation and
social gatherings;
.
It is still used that way;
.
It has the same attraction to us today that it had more than a century
ago.
4.
This is not just a piece of municipal real estate
. This is as close to hallowed ground, as we'll ever
get.
.
The Ferry Building is a monument; it's a marker, that says "this
is an important public place and it has been for a long
time";
.
We just happen to be using the monument as a small art
gallery.
The
general point I'm trying to make is that the context of a heritage
asset is as important and as valuable as the asset
itself.
Remove
the asset from its context - or vice versa - and the value of both
disappears.
It's like
removing a bone fragment from an archeological dig. Or a cutting a
single image out of a renaissance painting. The object is of no value;
the whole work is desecrated.
While I
have illustrated using the Ferry Building, the same case can be made
for the whole Ambleside waterfront area - the area roughly between the
waterfront and Bellevue, from 13th to 18th:
It is not all designated as heritage property, but it most
certainly all has heritage values;
Navvy Jack's house is there, another building with heritage
designation;
This whole area is sacred ground;
We must be very, very careful about any development we put
there;
And it's a place of wide public interest and use;
It is essential that all of the interests in this area be
considered before any decisions on single developments;
This cannot be done by a group that has a single
focus;
We must resume our overall planning;
This must be done with a focus on the whole area
itself;
It cannot be done by a single interest group that wants to use
a piece of it;
We must have a group that speaks to the whole, and the
connections between the components.
We won't
know where to put any project in the Ambleside area until we do this
vital planning work.
Fortunately, much work has been done.
Second,
and last, I would like to make a short comment about facilities for
the Arts, the whole reason for this proposal:
We support this quest; the work should continue; but two
things must be corrected:
1. we need to have a formal, clearly defined, and public
process; and
2. we need to broaden the meaning of "arts
facilities" to include heritage facilities.
The
facilities needed for arts - for display, education, and secure
storage - are very similar to those needed for heritage.
We
should not be competing for public resources; we should be working
simultaneously, harmoniously toward shared goals.
Thank
you}
Mayor: you didn't leave much time for Mr Day
RD: a lot, will be brief; like Aldrich Pears -- WV string of
pearls
suggest Ccl form a WG for 13th to 18th; presently zoned resid and
comm, ironically primarily on comm; wd like to see FBG reserved as
park land or reserved [8:52]
recog...; house the arts so rec therefore a second WG that
includes ... seek up a...
art, artifacts, history education
[Art Gallery] strongly recommended not be located on the
waterfront -- dampness, tsunami
turned down; large art galleries shd be moved inland
a good site, cd be recruited from WVHS, PMP WG
controversy of the arts gallery on FBG; resolved
have a real opp to unite and .... goals; much loved; seek out and
find best location
WGs are the best way to go about this; direct report to Ccl
and xxx
{Instead of supplying the text, here is the report (my
bolding) Rod gave to the directors of the WVHS just after the ccl
mtg. It contains the points made at the Council meeting, and it
has add'l information -- update appreciated:
Ferry Building September 8, 2011. Arts in Ambleside
proposal to build a 28,000 square foot art gallery in two buildings on
the Ferry Building site.
In mid July 2011 an arts group appeared before Council with a
proposal to build a very large art gallery of 28,000sf on the Ferry
Building site. Including the Hollyburn Sailing Cub, the total
size of the site is about 47,000sf, so that the proposed buildings
of 28,000sf would have dwarfed the public space and would have led to
the removal or destruction of the Ferry Building, dating to 1913, one
of our three designated heritage sites in West Vancouver.
Moreover the waterfront site itself has great heritage value and is a
public space much enjoyed by people from West Vancouver and
elsewhere. This "Guggenheim on Ambleside Landing",
threatened to block views from Argyle, Bellevue, and Marine Drive, to
an extent far beyond that experienced earlier by the centennial clock
at the foot of 15th street.
The West Vancouver Historical Society directors decided to oppose
this project and named Ann Brousson, Pam Dalik, Jim Carter, Rod Day,
and Rob Morris, to speak on its behalf. In the meantime another
group, led by John Seddon, began to collect petitions against the
project. By early October they had collected over 1200
signatures.
In the WVHS meeting of September 8, Rod Day reported that he
had met with Mayor Pam Goldsmith-Jones who stated that the project was
for discussion purposes only. The same thought was expressed by
Brent Leigh, assistant CAO, in his remarks to the Parks Master Plan
Working Group September 6. The Mayor suggested that the WVHS
group meet with Merla Beckerman and representatives of the arts group,
which took place on September 19. The group met with the Mayor
the next morning, in which it was agreed that the proposal to build an
arts facility on the site would be withdrawn. The Mayor asked
Rod to appear before the Council meeting of October 3 to outline our
objection to the proposal and to make suggestions for possible
solutions to the issue.
Rod and Rob Morris made a presentation to Council October 3.
Rob talked about the site "as hallowed ground" of
inestimable value to the community. Rod suggested the
formation of two working groups, one to examine the zoning from the
waterfront lands between 13th and 18th streets (some of which is
zoned commercial and residential) and to seek a suitable site for a
new art gallery in the Ambleside area, but not on the
waterfront.
In the Council meeting of October 3, Mayor Goldsmith-Jones
announced that "a new large, waterfront arts facility is off the
table". "We have certainly reaffirmed this whole
community's love of the waterfront and appreciation for councils of
the last 40 years for acquisition of those waterfront lands."
(North Shore News October 12) Council decided to ask Brent Leigh to
write a staff report for the meeting of October 17 to summarize public
input and to point the way to future planning for the waterfront and
for an arts facility. }
[8:54] Mayor: speak on behalf of Ccl; willingness to provide
construction [?] public comment
what came out this summer; certainly confirmed xxx; appreciation
for xxx
tremendous regard for those little arts [bldgs?]
capital xxx just to keep them; important msg for Ccl
we've also recognized that a large bldg on the waterfront
won't be supported
xxx ... for putting ... recogn now for an art gallery... those
petition
now understand the need, and shd go in a commercial
area
feedback coming on Oct 17 so timely
offering to join together; those who love the
park; ensure same waterfront we have today
a constant effort; am sure lots of ppl Oct 17, and you've
put us in a better agenda
wd you?
Sop: well, about five minutes
had opp to live beside Silk Purse ... beautiful area... newcomers
used to come... magical place by the water
came from inland; excitement finding this little picnic
table
happened so often got on my nerves, but being a nice
person...
keep jewel in our crown; spent millions to acquire land
along there
sum of all the parts; quaintness, open space
that particular fine- to six-block area; nowhere else get that
ambiance; so many go down there; many experiences
Mayor: are you going to thank the delegation?
Sop: yes
Mayor: not wishing to cut off; thank
RD: tyvm
[8:58] Mayor: moving to item 10
---------------
{They skip this b/c it was addressed
at the Ccl mtg that started at 5pm, wch is what the Mayor says when
she opens the regular Ccl mtg (but she gives neither the name or the
number of the item). They have, however, put it on the DWV
website.}
REPORTS
Appeal to be presented.
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The letter dated August 31, 2011 regarding
"Notice to Comply - number 1605-12 letter dated August 24, 2011 -
Notice of Appeal " from the registered owners of 3810 Marine
Drive, being Michael John Moody and Carole Constance Xenia Moody,
appealing an Order to Comply with the Good Neighbour Bylaw No. 4380,
2004 with respect to their property, be received;
2. Council considers that the derelict and
uninsured vehicles located on the property at 3810 Marine Drive, ...,
as described in the report dated September 8, 2011 from the Manager,
Bylaw and Licensing Services regarding "Good Neighbour Bylaw
Enforcement Appeal - 3810 Marine Drive" contravene the Good
Neighbour Bylaw and creates a nuisance; and
3. Council resolves that within 15 days of
receiving a copy of this resolution, the owner of the property is
required to remove the unlicensed vehicles and any vehicles that are
not capable of movement under their own power from the
Property.
Mayor: brief presentation
Sokol: Steve Simmonds, of Bylaw Services
SS: 3810 M Dr came to attention back in April through a
complaint. A bylaw officer investigated; various violations,
cars, garbage bags, etc. Signif progress, plsd, but now at an
impasse wrt the vehicles stored on the property -- up to seven not
registered currently, not capable of moving on their own
power. Bylaw ofcr issued order to comply wch resulted in the
appeal before you.
Sop: vehicles a nuisance wd hv to be licensed to be on a
prop?
if the cars had a battery in them and cd be started, wd you
consider them to be derelict?
SS: I was prepared for this question. "The
vehicle has to be licensed in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act
and capable of movement under its own power unless it is stored in a
closed bldg or structure such that the vehicle is not visible from
another parcel or from a hwy or other public
place."
{My resident mathematician was
intrigued by this, so looked closer at what was involved. His
comments:
But that's not what the bylaw
states. To quote:
"...no Owner may cause, allow or permit the
storage or accumulation on the parcel of all or part of a motor
vehicle that is not:
(i) validly
licensed in accordance with the Motor Vehicle Act, or
(ii) capable of
movement under its own power unless it is stored in a closed
building
..."
To analyse this it helps to employ
propositional calculus. To whit: "No P that is not (Q or R)"
which, through DeMorgan's Theorem, is the same as "No P that is
not Q and not R" which means that an Owner may not have a vehicle
that is not licensed AND not capable of movement. But if the vehicle
is capable of movement (regardless of whether or not it is licensed)
or if the vehicle is licensed (regardless of whether or not it is
capable of movement), then it is permitted under the Good Neighbour
Bylaw -- contrary to the misinterpretation put forward by the Manager
of Bylaw & Licensing Services.}
Sop: any vehicle on anybody's prop that is not licensed or is a
hobby car or they decided not to get insurance and it's sitting on
their prop it's deemed to be contrary to the Gd Nbr Policy?
SS: that's correct; wd need to be in a garage or similar
structure.
Sop: out of sight?
Mayor: thank you
Ev: of the seven, how many are unlicensed?
Sop: that's not quite true. Two of them are licensed and
three are being used
Mayor: Excuse me, I don't think we're going to debate our
staff
shd hear from Mr Moody and then we'll have a broad picture; he
can also speak for himself
Sop: well, the statement was that the seven cars were not
licensed, three of them are being driven around
Mayor: hear from Mr Moody to verify the situation.
Moody: thank you for being flexible and allowing me to come
early; I'm an elderly gentleman, don't have a lot of energy
we've heard the allegations and regretfully have to say they are
equally flawed.
will point out the inaccuracies
photographs to look at
{wandering around and mic not picking
up}
better if I speak into the mic?
{yes}
I've lived here since 1964; prop owner and taxpayer
started a biz here for a Cdn company; I prospered; I finished the
last three years of my career as a biz devt ofcr for south east
Asia.
you probably can tell I'm British; live in Canada by choice b/c
it's one of the greatest countries in the world, especially for
freedoms.
I lived through WW2; Canada in the UK greatly respected; the Cdn
military absolutely revered.
a little bit of the background
Seahaven, 3810 Marine, first built in 1934, bn enlarged and
renovated by hard work and good fortune, lived in it for 34
years.
we've never really had any complaints, only have one nbr who can
see one car and she is a quiet 75-year-old lady.
The complaints that have been recorded to my horror, I see the
history. I resent the way it has been presented. The
complaints started when an Iranian builder moved in across the
street. He persuaded me to prune some trees, wch foolishly I
did. He caused $10K worth of damage to my property wch he
refused to pay, and was subsequently sued. He put his house up
for sale. He bought it for $1.2M, he put it up for sale for
$3.9M and wondered why it didn't sell.
The reason, he concluded, was Mr Moody's car -- wch is quite
rubbish b/c I know all of the major realtors and they say the house is
back to front, it leaks, and he'd be lucky to get $2M wch is
what it went for.
Mayor: but we'd like to focus on your prop.
Moody: you can focus; will hand around photos.
It's about .9 of an acre, a lot of area; 400ft of waterfront,
440ft of road frontage
We have 12ft of driveway access to the prop; a small area for
parking, turning around
I've taken legal advice on your bylaws and they won't stand up
in court. They are subjective b/c they depend on the viewer and
the viewer's opinion and they have no legal basis.
If you care to read.....
During our stay at Seahaven my estate is 'robbed' of $24K or more
a year so I did feel I'd made a fair contribution to the cmnty.
I'm really not open to the opinion of Iranian builders
Mayor: we're really talking about standards in WV in
general
Moody: all right
Mayor: not anything that is personal.
Moody: there's a set of photos; look at each one
how cars seen from nbrs prop -- over 50 rhododendrons, camellias,
and azaleas, most of them over 20ft high. The prop itself is
more like a park; it's a bird sanctuary, a sanctuary for small
mammals, and that's the way we like it.
I grow cuttings and plants in pots b/c that's what I do.
And I give them away.
Look -- I don't see any problem
This is the view from the street. You tell me if there's a
problem
There was a time with some 2x4s, 4x2s; I collect the leaves in
black plastic bags, I have eight; I have bags of top soil as I'm a
gardener.
Go through each of those photographs.
What has been offensively described as a derelict car is in
fact a v valuable collector car. It's a 600SEL Mercedes Benz
from 1992.
You connect the battery, make sure gas, turn the key, it
goes.
Every visit from the bylaw ofcer, they have made assumptions
that are not correct, and as Mr Sop pointed out, I use several of
these vehicles.
We are also a v private family. We do not like any
intrusion to our property; we do not like a vulgar display of
wealth. We like this house b/c from the road it looks like a
little two-bedroom bungalow. That suits us.
photo of a grey Volvo, wch I'm able to drive when I feel like
it.
Each vehicle has its own purpose.
Over the long cold winter, both Mrs Moody and I (she is severely
disabled), not a good gardening spring, it cd do with some more
gardener attention, however gardeners in WV are now too
expensive.
So there's another valuable car, Mercedes Benz 6.9 SEL from
1978, a v valuable car -- only 2000 ever made. I cd sell
these cars in as-is condition for at least $15K each.
You can't tell me a derelict vehicle. You can come and look
it. A Mercedes under a car cover b/c we do not want ppl
knowing what we have.
It's v simple.
We have suffered -- going back, the rental prop, uh, when tenants
get evicted they get v difficult. They then make verbal
complaints.
Ask Ccl to pay particular attention to the use of the cell
phone and a verbal complaint.
Arrive at our doorstep, had police arrive at our doorstep when
tenants claim I'm assaulting them and I'm actually sitting watching
TV.
the outcomes have been....on one occasion -- police actually
opened my front door and came in they had no warrant, they had no
reason to be on my property. They've done this on three
occasions as a result of cell phone calls.
I wd ask that you ask the Police, the Fire Dept, not to respond
to these calls.
If somebody wants to make a complaint, they shd come to the M
Hall, fill in a form (etc), and send to offending homeowner.
Then you might find it a legitimate complaint
Mayor: do you have anything further to add about the exterior of
your prop?
Moody: the exterior?
Mayor: wch is the substance of what Ccl is here to
consider.
Moody: frontage?
Mayor: the yard and the vehicles in it; that's the motion
Moody: according to my lawyer, it's recommended I go to Human
Rights and lodge a complaint.
Whoever said I can't have four cars in the driveway?
there's no law saying [that]
It's an offence to me personally; they are not derelict
vehicles.
Your Bylaws Dept have got it all wrong and I wd say that they
have erred in their duties b/c they haven't asked the cars to be
started and I haven't volunteered.
particularly found it most offensive someone wandering around
the property photographing licence plates.
I told them, get off the prop
The 1978 6.9 was actually stolen from my prop one Christmas by
order; we did get it recovered, by accident, but in today's age of
selling information, nothing is safe.
You photograph a licence plate, there's an address, an owner, and
that's where you know to go and steal the car.
Have you looked at the photographs?
Mayor: yes; thank you for coming and I'm glad we cd accommodate
you
thank you for paying attention to some of the other things in the
yard and cleaning that up
We really appreciate that as our staff have mentioned.
Moody: there's a certain moment in time we are too ill to do
something; much as I wd like, I'm pretty well limited to an hour's
physical work a day.
Mayor: thank you; have the photographs; most of us drive by your
prop ev day, I know I do
Ccl -- this motion or?
Sop: put on the floor
ML: I recommend, move "as written"
[SW seconds]
Mayor: Cclr Lewis, wd you like to start?
ML: appears we have contravention of the bylaw; as I read the
vehicles need to be insured, they appear not to be insured; without a
battery won't start; need to be in running order
{well, you can't tell if a car is insured by looking at it
except if in BC there's no licence given without insurance though I
know ppl who buy the insurance, get a licence, but don't bother to put
the licence on till they have to drive it; maybe waiting to get back
from holiday, for instance.}
Moody: [trying to speak]
Mayor: you may not, Ccl is in debate, but if there's a question
for you, I'll direct it to you
ML: from the street but probably not relevant re enforcement as
the bylaw is written
ample opp to correct the situation, efforts made in terms of
refuse, clippings, compost ..... so that's much appreciated but
still think there's a contravention here and we need to move
forward.
SW: basically agree with Cclr Lewis
maybe if proof or some effort made to insure the vehicles...make
sure in running order
if driven on a regular basis, assume they have insurance, but if
they don't, straightforward in contravention of the bylaw
Ev: a couple of questions
On Aug 23rd, Mr Moody said he wd have the cars removed by the
31st; wonder why that didn't happen
make obvious comment, there is a double garage
maybe question to staff, why he cd put a fence so cars further
away, is that a solution?
SS: may be able to work something out wrt some of the
vehicles
the prop isn't zoned as a storage lot for
automobiles
main point right now, is the report from my staff is not
insured, maybe one or two drivable
they're parked in the back of the yard on a lawn, not in any
contained structure, the reqmt of the bylaw
yard itself is in a state that is--
{The confusion and misunderstanding over what the bylaw states
continues -- the bylaw says nothing about the vehicle having to be
insured -- only that it need be licensed. In BC you can insure a
vehicle without its being licensed but you cannot license a vehicle
without insurance. So SS misspeaks when he mentions insurance --
whether or not the vehicle is insured is of no matter according to the
bylaw.}
Mayor: thank you
Ev: cd you direct the question to Mr Moody, removal on 31st
and didn't happen
Moody: bylaw says 'visible from the road'; I don't want you to
look into my yard
I wd like to get a pair of gates put up, however every ironwork
shop is owned by Iranians and the gates cost $12K
Mayor: I'd like to put the question to you Cclr Ev asked;
commitment to Aug 31st
Moody: Mercedes to go in for service but they were on
holiday
gentleman who doesn't understand vehicles
much easier to disconnect the battery and then connect the
negative lead, that's why the battery doesn't degrade
you need a spark and gas and they go
{I asked about this and it's true
-- vehicles not being used regularly are better stored with the
battery disconnected.}
Sop: bylaw officers act on complaint and that's how we set up
policy; not an easy job.
when I went to see, did see attempt to clean up prop, cut down
weeds.
size of the prop, almost an acre of open space to the right but
the foyer is the only place to park any vehicles.
talked to Mr Moody about the two cars in the front, one
drivable
really shdn't be there on an ongoing basis
talked about a gateway so ppl can't see into his prop
did see the garage, wondered if two of those vehicles cd be
housed in the garage, and the two cars in front removed, put one
Mercedes elsewhere.
We cherish your ability to live in that wonderful spot but when a
complaint comes, it's here and we have to make a decision based on
what efforts you make in spite of all those things.
I understand as a collector myself
in your view it's subjective and we have laws we have to respond
to
I'm asking you if there's a way in wch we cd work together,
and remove the two vehicles out on the street; you have three cars
that are working -- one for you and one for your wife and another
one
and then the Mercedes that are collectable.
possible to move them into the garage and third one
elsewhere?
Moody: the garage is not possible b/c my Rolls Royce is
there
{Mayor chuckles}
Moody: it's hidden b/c we don't want to make it
obvious.
the prob with the property is that ppl look in
as I pointed out in my correspondence, a vehicle is an inert
object; in itself it cannot offend anybody
it's only the use of it
we live in a throw-away society where ppl think new is best and I
don't.
Mayor:...
Moody: each vehicle will be serviced in turn
we make about three calls a week for medical assistance or go to
LGH so I have a v crowded agenda
MS: am I correct, our bylaw does not allow an uninsured vehicle
on a prop?
SS: that is correct; need to be licensed and registered under
the MVA to be on any private personal prop unless it's stored in a
structure like a garage.
{not true as pointed out above}
MS: I got conned into buying a second vehicle for my three
step-daughters and they've all gone back to university and I took the
plates off with great pleasure at the end of the summer, and the
vehicle is now uninsured and sitting in my driveway, so I guess I'm in
contravention of our own bylaws
{laughter}
Mayor: my son parked his car on Bowen Island, that's what Bowen
Island is for
{Laughter}
MS: we have an elderly citizen, has his own way of doing
things; he's a collector of older cars
a bit unreasonable to say he can't have a couple of
collectable cars on nearly an acre of land, when it's a heavily treed
prop -- you can hardly see in -- and he makes a good point.
You nearly have to stop in the middle of MDr to see the cars so I'm
kind of, it's unfortunate come to this stage not able to handle
off-line
shd make allowances for some our citizens' own way of doing
things
hesitate force of M law; signif taxpayers and generally
law-abiding; don't know how to vote on this
Mayor: I'd say there's been really good progress working with
bylaw ofcr
and the complaint has had a positive outcome, perhaps even for
the Moodys in terms of need to do some work on their prop
to go further, continue as Sop suggested, maybe a way to reduce
the numbers of cars
I agree with you, I drove by past a Volvo on MDr for a long time,
not there now, you have made the entrance, the street appeal has
improved
we appreciate that
Ccl cd refer this back to staff, wrt vehicles
we also do take a hard line with how ppl store their boats,
trailers, pop-up tents, campers, ....etc
important to quality of life in Vancouver
so we want to aim for that, what you're suggesting Cclr Sm
without being too heavy-handed, and in recognition of good faith shown
so far
MS: you took the words right out of my mouth, Madam
Mayor
Sop: thank you, Madam Mayor, that's more to the
liking
Mr Simmonds, is it at all possible that Mr Moody cd work with
staff in the next little while as to housing and/or a plan for removal
or licensing of vehicles of his colln, with an understanding that's
part of the law
think there's any flexibility?
Sokol: staff have been working with the Moodys for several
months
what we are required to do is to try to implement and enforce the
bylaws that Ccl has adopted and put in place
will work with Mr Moody, make sure insured, we may have been
mistaken, but make sure all operable, but at this point our job is to
enforce the bylaw Ccl has adopted for the entire cmnty unless Ccl, and
we can xxx, non-enforcement of the bylaw
Mayor: make sure operable, see if limited number acceptable to
Ccl, if that enough
ML: if we had seven insured operable, okay? parked off
street
Mayor: think enclosure
ML: garage, see in yard sometimes in street; if all in
yard?
Sokol: wd hv to report back unless Mr Simmonds knows the
answer, I'm not sure if there is a limitation on the number of
automobiles that may be stored on a property cuz at some point it gets
beyond being a sgl-fam residence wch is the primary allowed use in the
zone, and becomes a parking lot or a storage yard
{hm, we permit two cars on an Ambleside lot of less than 0.1
acres, can we forbid seven cars on 0.9 acres?}
ML: Mr Simmonds referred to another designation of prop as a car
storage area, and I don't think that's what the prop is
Mayor: although there certainly are props in WV with many many
cars on them
in, usually, a garage.
Ev: if we're going to defer enforcing the bylaw, there are two
things
one is a commitment from Mr Moody to make a greater effort to
correct, what we consider to be wrong with the cars
those photographs were taken somewhat selectively
secondly, if we were to do that, defer decision, whatever,
three months if acceptable, and automatically comes back to Ccl for
final resolution.
Mayor: are you making a deferral motion then?
Ev: okay
Mayor: I'll test it out -- on Moody to comply
SW: okay
TP: trying to find a compromise and soln
first is just screening from the street
haven't been to your prop so is it possible to have the cars
moved further in so a) not visible from street and b) some of the cars
you can move
SW: don't want to support deferral b/c staff's been working on
this for months
great you like to collect cars but does look like a parking
lot
have to respect nbrs and the cmnty, and if there's been
complaints, looks like for the last seven years; at some point you've
got to make a decision having staff work on this, only two bylaw
ofcrs
Sop: the deferral is to give Mr Moody time
Mayor: suggestion is three months for Mr Moody to continue
working on this, come back to Cl, and a decision will be made.
Okay?
call question:
CARRIES
three months, insurance issue, operability, storage, screening
from the street, and we'd be prepared to reconsider this.
tyvm everybody
Moody: question; none of my vehicles occupy the travelled way,
the two parked outside are in a little parking area that been there
since 1934 and we feel it's been grandfathered -- there's a
little sketch--
Mayor: Mr Moody, we're not going to be able to work this out now
cuz we're in a public ccl mtg, so--
Moody: why acceptable to have 15 or 20 cars parked along MDr,
some of them on your minuscule road allowance, and 15 to 20 actually
on the travelled way, and why is the boat and the jeep parked up
against the fire hydrant permissible when this attention comes to
me?
Mayor: why Ccl has allowed another three months, to be fair
really app you were here helped in decision, look forward to
working out a soln for you
Moody: I'll work along with you but going to question the
veracity of the complaints that you get
Mayor: not what we're here to do, at the moment; we've taken it
seriously, and so have you by showing demonstrated improvement on your
prop; we're v happy with that
Moody: I cd get complainer into court, have him questioned by my
lawyer adviser
Mayor: that's your private biz; thank you
Motion to adjourn or recess?
SSch: adjourn to closed session
Mayor: carried
SSch: on basis of sections a, e, j, k
-------- now back to the regular ccl
mtg
[8:58] Mayor: Ccl is recognizing the police
and fire bldgs ageing and...
Japan and NZ
looking for ways; wish to put in front of public solely or
together; done a lot of homework this
year
present tonight so consultation can
begin in 2012 so next Ccl can xxx
CAO: report, signif amt of work over past year; core
information
also wish to point out Chief Cook and Lepine recogn xxx
does not recommend integration rather xxx
not new xxx police and fire; that police and fire cd share; not
any optional elements
58K gross area $35.5M -- estimates, will be confirmed
are add'l cost efforts confirmed by staff, UBC Props Trust (devpd
for UBC)
ARC, resident volunteers experts in xxx [9:02]
believe can be funded by sale of M land
any sale into End Fund then best way to xxx
{NO NO NO!
Why sell land for a bldg that will
deteriorate and need to be replaced? Then have to find funds for
replacement -- sell more land? we'll run out!
Even leasing not wise -- lease for
100 years for a bldg that will only last 50?
Some cclrs have even said building
"at no cost" to the taxpayers b/c selling land. NO!
That IS a cost! We're losing assets! Like raiding our
(land) piggy bank!
SHORT-SIGHTED!}
all matters decided in 2012 after
estimates not set in stone; even whether a new bldg warranted;
size and cost
will set the agenda how move forward
Fire Chief Jim Cook: WV's Firehall No 1 is 50 years old and
does not meet our needs
unlikely wd remain standing; failure of supporting walls and
xxx
wd compromise life-saving; must consider major
upgrade
PSB presents an opp to address this in context of a larger
plan
prescribed in BC Bldg code; seismic issues, emergency
services, power outages exp on N Sh
looking for help and authority; a new bldg wd help us to keep
operating when need highest
must remain functional; first responders' equipment protected to
utilize as command post
other benefits; shared HVAC
imp that a firehall be located in Amb area -- highest in all
NSh 75% of all, 65%, 50% of all health; less than four minutes;
[NOT?] moving out of Amb area
already work well with police on a daily basis, respond
[9:06]; support colocation.
Mayor: joined by Deputy Chief {Police}
JIm Almas: worked in this bldg for past 31 years; 105 employees;
major infrastructure challenges; likely to fail or collapse in a major
.... event; occupy after a disaster
disruption, considerable cost; sewer pipes; dry wall; mould
damage often
detention facilities substandard and no longer meet prov
standards
xxx also incur; work in a bldg in a constant state of
repairs; no overall safety for employees
supports joint PSB on the M Hall site; excited about moving
forward; no doubt better and ....
particularly those dept we work with on a daily basis, fire and
bylaw
..... achieved; economize on economy of scale, HVAC
as we wait for this exciting ...; will continue to draw on
resources; symbolizes a signif investment ... support overall
well-being; as well a cmnty we serve on behalf of xxx and xxx
wish to thank moving forward on this important
Mayor: final by Howard Nemtin [ARC mbr]; expertise on projects of
this size
HM: so many involved; Commission plays a slightly diff role
committed to ...... hesitate to say experts but experienced; give
a fairly dispassionate view
touchstone; have to be financially prudent; due process, have to
plan; eye on the budget
been our pleasure, five cmnty volunteers, with ~150 years of
devt
enjoyed a process working v closely with groups; bn a v
comprehensive and detailed process; try to eliminate the
unknowns
$35M devping over about nine mos; optimum space required; what's
going in
trying to provide Ccl with a level of comfort; no major red
flags; take our jobs seriously; not paid, do get free coffee from time
to time; provide staff add'l to staff
understand we may be called on to continue; thank you for the opp
of being involved
{does this mean ARC has been
terminated? or just on hiatus, cd be called back?}
look forward to a successful conclusion
[9:14] TP: xxx
Sop: in the event of prov going prov-wide police, wd it still
be nec to have pol xxx
JA: going to need a facility on the NSh; work with RCMP
but in order to service WV has to be one here
Sop: in one bldg, advantages; if we look at this, no cost to
taxpayers, there are other conclusions
{not NO cost the way presented
here! -- as I explained above}
maybe using some spaces in the PSB; specifically want you to
inform me; what's being shared and what savings
CAO: started this as a vision
brought in Cornerstone, looked at xxx; looked at what MHall does,
Police, Fire No1
then took that out to 26
any growth... advantages of having one bldg, we have one
xxx shared mtg place, shared parking, shared lunchroom
on one bldg, advantages other capital and operating
Sop: not too many years ago we did do upgrading of No 1 hall, not
sufficient?
Jim Cook: the upgrades were to accomm one of the larger vehicles
so vertical load but not horizontal
Mayor: Cclr Panz, wd you like to make
TP: excellent report, look at p 41 [?]
[thorough????]
thank Cclr Smith and our Mayor
moving to 2012, look at that piece, time to move on; don't want
to defer
looking forward to whoever's on Ccl engaging the public
MS: not much to add; Panz said well
for the price of substandard coffee; excellent expertise, v
fortunate; think process has been a good one
{hm; not the impression he gave
when ARC was pushing the $3.1M that even Cclr Walker called
'exorbitant'. What's changed? Anyway, better process now
being debated b/c public -- at last -- will have say starting in
2012.}
been trying to tighten up all the unanswered questions
now look to public comment, think it's going to be an exciting
time
ML: both Panz and Smith mention public consultation
been confusing; reflects on us
we have to spend some time, getting the data and not based on
I think, she thinks
think we're starting to get that
{"he thinks"! :-)
}
new year, gives time to frame the question, options; come to
those sessions; ideas
think we'll have a better project at the end
want to thank the Amb Comm, know they've given consid or their
expertise, UC lands trust
{again implying ARC
terminated?}
encourage ppl to review this doc and look forward to next
year
Ev: ... points where the public can be engaged
somewhat disappointed with 'next steps'
two observations -- seem to be putting this into a cocoon for
next six mos
unfortunate, report back early in 2012, it's Oct we've still
got three months
recog Nov election but ongoing, what's early, Feb, Mar?
shd be an ongoing process; huge connect between what we're doing
here and on the 1300 block
we're pushing out
aiming to move police stn 1300 block we're pushing out four
years
how long? suggest we accelerate this consultation process
Sop: first, I disagree; shd go through process
congrat Comm; area I look at now; diff figs, info
vital we put this before the public; size, etc, imp
consider
this is the right process; will take to Jan to get an
architectural rendering
not make any swift rash decisions including on the financial
side
thx particularly to Mark Chan, who's given his all; we're in
right direction
SW: I'm going to support Cclr Ev
not a surprise; had hoped a shovel this year; do question
another three mos
we've been talking about this since we started three years
ago
give a lot of xxx had to be done
wd hate to see derailed while waiting for a new Ccl to come in;
some semi- ...
I'm frustrated by xxx; ... before roof falls in
Mayor: xxx we cd change..... wch will begin in early 2012
it's v difficult to have a townhall mtg in Nov; public not sure
who leaders will be
maybe if Mr McR gives some dates; give some confidence pushing
forward but not leaving....
CAO: when we looked at number of mtgs left; new Ccl sworn in Dec
5
we are working on it now; we have v good material and info now;
believe we have info public will understand;
{then why not give it out
asap???}
don't want to rush
{well, you haven't been! lots
of delays (not that that's wrong; good to be
cautious)}
want cmnty -- do hope they challenge
we can come back to Ccl with some ideas; our concern is that a
new Ccl might want to change it
{perfectly valid reason to wait for
new Ccl}
if want to ... working on it right now
Mayor: intent is that the process begins [sic] early 2012
[9:29] RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The report titled "Public Safety Building" be
received for information; and
2. Staff bring back a public consultation process to
Council in early 2012, including a Public Open House regarding the
Public Safety Building project with questions for the community to
consider including: size; scope; design; location; cost; funding
sources; and time line.
[8:30]
RECOMMENDED: ...be received for information.
PASSED
Mayor: Cap U with their ....students have been here with
their
observing democracy in action
(File: 1010-20-11-025)
At the September 12, 2011 regular
meeting Council received the report dated
August 31, 2011 regarding
Development Variance Permit Application No. 11-025 for 1148 20th
Street and set the date for consideration for October 3,
2011.
Reports received up to and including September 29, 2011:
NAME:
DATE: FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION:
Devt Variance Permit #11-025
(1148 20th St) August 31,
2011 September 12,
2011/October 3, 2011
Written Submissions received up to and including September 29,
2011: None to date.
Geri Boyle: a corner-flanking lot; boxy house
{G&Gordon left
[9:31]}
asked for variance wrt sideyard
SLIDES
lot is small so being built to max FAR
site coverage of 28%, not 40%; design elements, quite
modest, but xxxx
Sop: had a look at it; variance a lot b/c three and can hardly
stand two
GB: it was a house built across two
Sop: any mntnce?
GB:: separation is 1.55m adequate to go in?
Sop: 3ft?
GB: 5
Sop: from?
GB: access further down
Mayor: applicant av?
Mark H: I'm Mark Hedecott [?]
PRESENTATION BY APPLICANT {but none given}
CALL FOR PUBLIC INPUT
Mayor; I'll call for public input now
{didn't catch name}: I live across street; objections, one
on nbrhd level and a personal level
wrong place; brings home nearer to street; it's a v narrow
street
{Mr Allan?}
20 to 25 ft when av size is 60ft; it's a v busy street;
school; v busy, gridlock
parking has also been an issue; concerned about guest parking;
exacerbate
as for nbrhd characteristics, not fitting frontage 15ft from
curbside
two such variances have been granted 11th and 14th; both where
plan to allow for a higher level of density
house listed on the H inventory
{hm, first time this was
mentioned!
LATER
am researching this.
Queried staff who said 1148 20th was not on the Heritage
Inventory.
Did more
digging.
Surprise! its former
address (Capt George Murrell's house) was 1991 Inglewood -- wch wd hv
bn immediately recognized. The adjacent lot to the east is 1981
Inglewood, and west is 2000 block.
Yes, indeed 1148 20th is not on
the H Inv, but 1991 Inglewood definitely is (as the Downing
House).
Games being
played?}
I live directly across the street
in our home or on our prop; will loom over our home and affect
our privacy
in summary, feel these bylaws are there for a reason, a mere 15ft
not in fitting with [9:38]
20th is a narrow; bus route, arterial, bringing structure
closer, exacerbate loss of privacy and enjoyment of nearby
homes
Mayor: don't
Sokol: no
SW moved:THAT all written and verbal
submissions ... be received for information.
CARRIED
SW moved: THAT DVP Application for 1148
20th St, which would allow for a new two-storey dwelling with
basement to be constructed, be approved.
thought it was quite xxx
was your house on 20th is your front facing
Ans: side onto 20th
SW: form and character suited nbrhd, don't think a 3m variance is
all that bad
based on staff report cd be built wd be overwhelming
Ev: reiterate what Cclr Walker said
it is a narrow street but whether we approve this variance to the
frontage, the street remains the same so don't see for that reason,
has signif
Sop: when I went to the site today, saw house -- large front
lawn, then realized for this
This is the old Murrell residence; the growth on the
corner to be retained?
{Here's where I gasped. It's
listed as primary on the H Inv. Decided I had to ask about it at
PQP. There's supposed to be notification is a heritage property
receives a demolition permit so that incentives and options can be
offered to see if retention possible.
Heritage WGs/cmtes terminated more
than a year ago; this primary site demolished without warning; GLH
facing demolition; civic reception the same night as the Heritage
Society of BC's annual awards ceremony; ....
'Tis to weep.}
GB: yes
Sop: think the house approp for the size
nice access a long lane so will be in support
{so, he gives no weight or
consideration to the heritage value? At least he mentions it.
The nbr did but wasn't in presentation.
Someone has to look at how WV
treats heritage -- can we hope for more than the word? or the same
meaningless mantra as openness?}
CARRIES [9:42]
13. [TransLink] Presentation
(File: 0185-39-06)
Presentation to be
provided.
Mayor: this Friday, Mayors' Ccl will be voting on.....
TL: know long evening v
joining us is Jack Frost; long range planning
no new dollars; expecting $3 to 4M xxx
SLIDES [9:47]
signif capacity issues
had 5M trips and today 6M today; commute times little change in a
decade
believe a direct result from investments we've been making
224M transit boarding, this year 340M
boardings had been helping
Canada LIne has made a
difference
LGB 2% buses and carry
28%
Evergreen Line an extension of ALT, out to
Coq; Mill -- $40M of the $70 but the $30 help with immed
needs; want to see Seabus ev 15min all
day -- reg service all day and all weekend long
dealing with system that is
ageing; also looking at Lonsdale
Quay
looking at ~20M more transit rides
SLIDE
equivalent of pulling about 70M vehicle
rides (?) [9:51]
Since 1950s av amt of travel increasing
year after year
with this investment in place will see a
reversal, a decline in distance travel
going to be bringing back;
Major Road Network; carries a lot of goods;
cut back now add xxx; cut back 3M get
back up
Skytrain touched on this; Evergreen line extension not just connecting Coq and
Bby -- will run to Millennium; adding 28
more cars; help expand the network
rapid transit investments
stations are imp to us; [SLIDES] need to b
upgraded, accessibility, looking at Lonsdale Quay
more bus service on MDr, more going over
bridge
SLIDE of what Lonsdale Quay will look like;
improvement in station access
This plan looks at leveraging over
investments $2.24B
sr govt dollars; fuel tax will cover 21%; increase in fares xxx 16%
addn new rev 13%
Consultation -- launched on this in
2010; new funding agreement in
July
Does support livable regions
plan; prudent on fiscal side; will not
invest unless sustainable in future
Mayor: noticed prop taxes conspicuous by
absence, wch is of concern; but no
new
Ans: use the prop tax for two years 2012
and 2014 if needed, not beyond that
if took more time to find
alternative; will be v
prudent
[Mayor: need motion to extend beyond 10
o'clock
PASSED]
want to build on
decision mayors will make on
Friday
fought for, with prov; no new on prop;
wd not participate beyond $400M and seen prov go to
$800M; glad you're
here
so much is behind closed doors wch
neither I nor the other mayors agree with
principles ... driving to achieve long terms sust
funding
Sop: recently at Pinnacle Hotel had a xxx
with you; xxx part of that
discussion
Ans: this funding pkg wd enable some to be
put in place
Sop: so that's an improvement
some equality for the millions of dollars
gone into the other side of the water;
for what we have given back;
xxx
[9:59] Ans: NSh plan
some we'd like to see; seabus improvements in time critical for those who
live on NSh
Jack Frost: overcrowding along Lonsdale,
looking to improve those standards
Sop: I was around when it first
started; adamant not happy with prop
tax
taken flak and xxx; for much we've been angry about, way thank you for
your hard work
ML: thank you for coming and moved
received for information.
PASSED
GBoyle: brief presentation
Mayor: and Ccl has slightly diff wording
GB: phases; SLIDES: top part is what has been approved
and bottom is the revision
previously rooftop terrace and now a green roof with small
area
signif design change, staff strongly supportive
residents opps to enjoy in other parts of the bldg
22nd and M Dr; grading required small retaining or planing
wall
applicants pushed here, pulled there, and adjust the grading so
much more friendly streetscape; slight change in angled
third change, steel ribs facing west side of frontage to terrace
area; strange; architectural feature -- will keep green features but
steel ribs removed here
over BBQ area; glass covers so can be taken adv of
saw cutting of P2 slab; have to pour then cut and as one piece of
work so adding for non-enforcement so poured in bits
ea floor is concrete
worked with the applicant and given them less than they
requested
first part of pours then rest till 10pm; total of 26 occasions to
deal with power troweling
sp notice to the residents re saw-cutting
whole team is here to answer
here is the whole rendering of the bldg -- slide picture
Sop: any over dust?????
GB: will ask construction team
Russell Hobbs, mgr and xxx Ventana our Bby-based
RH: dust, with spray at same time so shdn't be prob with dust;
trowelling generally wet
Sop: question wrt noise
Ven: yes, wd be the sound of one lawn mower working
up the wall at street won't be decibel
Sop: till midnight?
Ans: yes
Sop: often?
Ans: four occasions xxx [10:09] can't give exact dates, not
possible
Mayor: if Ccl has alternate wording
B1 says until midnight Mar to May
GB: originally was for all 26 occasions and we felt as weather
got better, up till midnight till March 31st
Mayor: thought I heard ten
Ans: xxx quite large so have to pour in large
were hoping to have as many as possible to midnight, Geri's
broken us down
four locations concrete cutting, cured troweling and cut
timing of the xxx; do need till midnight; diff sound,
trowel
only for x have to stay; that's the month
Mayor: so what we have in front of us is in line with
{yes}
MS moved: THAT
1. The proposed revisions to the May 16, 2011 approved
design development package for the Pacific Arbour Residential
Communities development, at the northwest corner of 22nd Street and
Marine Drive, described in the September 19, 2011 report from the
Manager of Community Planning, be approved;
2. The request from Ventana Construction Corporation for an
Order of Non-Enforcement of the Noise Control Bylaw No. 4404, 2005
Section 6.1.2 for certain work related to curing and finishing
concrete construction of the Pacific Arbour Residence, as described in
the September 19, 2011 report from the Manager of Community Planning,
be approved as follows:
1. on four occasions for saw cutting the P2 on-grade
slab; and
2. for finishing via power troweling until midnight
from March 1, 2012 to May 31, 2012; and
3. for finishing via power troweling until 10 pm
from June 1, 2012 to December 31, 2012.
3. Ventana Construction Corporation to notify the local
area residents, 7 to 14 days prior to commencing the concrete pour
phase of construction, that this phase is starting and that limited
work outside normal working hours will take place.
hopefully gladly
Everyone on Ccl wants to see this move
forward so have to accommodate 10:14
Ev: the design changes, we've both sat in
(SW) in all Design Rev mtgs and all consistent with the
cmte
[10:14]
TP: I will move as written THAT
1. Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4680,
2011, for property located at 1305 Marine Drive (Shell Gas Station)
attached to the report from the Senior Community Planner and
the Manager of Community Planning dated Sept 22, be introduced
and read a first time in short form;
2. The M Clerk be directed to give statutory notice that a
Public Hearing... is scheduled for Nov 7...;
3. Proposed Devt Permit No. 10-035 attached to the report
from the Sr Cmnty Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated
Sept 2 be considered concurrently with the Zoning Amendment
Bylaw; and
4. The public be given an opportunity to provide comment on
the proposed Devt Permit attached to the report from the Sr Cmnty
Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated Sept 22 at a Public
Meeting held concurrently with the PH on the Zoning Amendment
Bylaw.
CARRIED
Mayor: some to speak but will have presentation first:
CAO: discussion over past year; almost a year ago today
in anticipation, Pk R has been working with the Sq Na and Design
Panel
xxxx refining the proposals; PkR 's response to Village
presupposes approval of the intersection
wrt overpass, Bunt attempts to predict x and y [10:17]
changes over the year
xxx changed; White Spot initially but changed xxx etc
in front of the Sq Nation design Panel
105Ksf
120Ksf
staff only recently received Sept 15...
thought only xxx review, will be requesting....
some, need more info
do not clearly indicate sidewalks; ref to xxx
some trees removed, don't know what replaced with; proposing
future devt on North
the ccl resoln of a year ago authorized me as CAO subject to
'confirmance'
for past year, staff has been working with the two design
panels
major role, major taxpayer; major expansion on the south
side
while on Sq land, M has no legal xxx however working
together
highest quality and adds xxx to
105Ksf only part
future devt
staff and two design panels trying to xxx that that is
two design panels -- pedestrian cycle landscape xxx and how fits
with master plan for entirety
know removal of overpass, will create two xxx [10:21]
coming early in 2012 high rise on White Spot
another tower south of xxx, xxx
prov and fed govt plan a xxx
Dist staff share the two design panels' concerns; refine
we/I do not believe the future impact
multi-discipline review -- multiple account
evaluation
a WG
a multi-jurisdictional review
also Sq Nation and Larco
relnship has come a long way, co-op of two
do not support our Des [?]
talked about WG, our orig
needs to be broadened and more focused; like to turn this over to
Peer Review and we prefer xxx
Mayor: engrs?
RF: peer review wd be
Mayor: what does the broader one encompass?
RF: just a technical review wd not change the
conclusions
delay might be a delay a few seconds more
wd be v surprised 180=BA change of what's coming out of
model
benefits -- some PkR and some District at large
impact or benefits to vehicle/pedestrian, emergency
responders
believe the challenge is to balance these objectives
xxx best met by a multiple account evaluation [MAE]
a District-led, wd involve Larco; so in best interests of cmnty
at large
Ev: in hindsight, why didn't we do this a year ago?
Mayor: don't want to get into discussion yet, that's kind of
broad; ppl wishing to speak; if eval
beginning with Art Phillips
AP: Dir of Devt with Larco; largest taxpayer $1.8M and
employees 3000+
xxx a bit confused xxx
staff seem to be proposing to reevaluate prev decision
Ccl voted on Oct 2, 5 to 2 to remove
numerous mbrs of public spoke in favour 4 to 1
fire, xxx; solicit more consultation; Dec 6 overturned
PkR's only remaining req was to [10:28]
we've worked diligently to..... believe we've met all
requirements
design team have submitted plan
we have met on two occasions with Design review and
satisfied
in favour of peer review
xxx Bunt & Assoc
wrt master plan we have submitted, been open; yes, made
modifications in past year
on p3 of staff report; peer review
feel will justify; as proponent wd expect to pay cost of peer
review
any prior to xxx
not the case here; need for the intersection
DRC re findings of Bunt
ignores Ccl decision; xxx ... overturned by staff
[10:30] -- unacceptable precedent
we've had 18K visitors
expansion on retail component, took place in June and July
respectfully request honour spirt of the letter, reject
staff
Mayor: certainly staff's prerogative to come back to Ccl if
disagree
Bill Park: third time I've been here; in favour
imp prior decisions of Ccls are followed up; hope
Gabriel Lauren: on behalf WV Chamber of Comm incoming
Chairman
in support; many merchant mbrs; same approved; hope will
accept; hope go through
Mayor: no one further to speak
Ev: will make motion so can ... or amend
Mayor: your prerogative
Ev moved: THAT
1. Council support a [District-led] process to review the
proposal through a Multiple Accounts Evaluation (MAE);
Mayor?: shd include Sq Nation and [10:34]
Ev: not to contradict you but wd like to know more about peer
report
RF: ccl made decision to xxx to CAO
since then many letters from mbrs of public and showed to be
counterintuitive to intersection
exacerbated by Blue Bus; saw problems with signal
intersection; felt wd be made worse by PkR activities
in Aug notion of technical peer review
staff tried to consider best way of moving forward
at v least is how to balance motoring public and other
xxx
felt conducting MAE
changing and iterative PkR plans
DRC, Sq Nation
Ev: my second question, maybe in hindsight, why didn't we go into
this detailed review 12 mos ago
CAO: when Ccl delegated CAO approve this project in principle in
xxx with standards
not an engr
between dogs and trees
one of the problems, it's counterintuitive
when confused, as I have been on the continuing changes to Pk R
-- they've continued to refine -- devt proposed will have a
fundamental impact on WV
totality
I don't run shopping ctrs and my resp is to manage
Ms
look at that drawing behind you, shows xxx but does not show
the three pads on the north, does not show new xxx, or new theatre,
nor towers nor south perimeter road
look at all this
xxx Pk R is a major supporter of our cmnty
but I really have diff working with planning and engg
xxxxx
[want] something whole cmnty can support
simply a peer review or xx , ppl simply don't understand
it
transparency
ensure relnship with Sq Nation; now working with Sq N design
never happened before; working with PkR
trouble to sell this; going through this process; as with PSB
done a lot of good work; come a long way
why didn't we do this last year?
1) we didn't see the changes
2) PkR done a lot of
3) this will impact our cmnty
[10:41] may take time but brought the cmnty along with
us
{good; brave and
bold}
Sop: don't think we have any firm conclusion what that xxx will
look like in 25 years; nor Pk R or Sq N
we spoke to Rick Amantea on Saturday night; prob with bus lanes;
I think this plan is a benefit to PkR -- gone to xxx
how can we best approach this?
village-like atmosphere; EvDrive on renewal
consistency of amt of traffic coming down corridor; imperative we
go through a timeline; all-inclusive
can say we took into consideration everything
three lanes, three-lane bridge; this might take a few months but
xxxx; good xxx
ML: when it first came, it was counterintuitive
anybody saying putting in a traffic light making easier
east to west
same question, reside list.....
how many accesses to MDr?
if level crossing, need another at Pound Rd
staff propose, makes perfect sense; maybe sense with more data;
xxx that and be v supportive
MS: hardly know where to begin
can't support motion as it stands now b/c no time
lines
had applic; endorsement by police, fire, blue bus, Ch of
Comm
virtually ev living breathing, traffic endorsed
I don't know anything about traffic; don't like it;
intersection at TWay clearly dysfunctional
xxx Village
need another left-turn lane into that Village
cd vote against all the experts if I heard one plausible reason
to do so and I never did
certainly not unsympathetic to cmnty consultation and process,
agree important, in the sense of fair play at least have to bring some
closure
{btw, in conversation with a
resident I said no left turn needed going west from the LGB. We
go through and turn right into PkR N, drive to the west overpass wch
go overs to PkR S near the Village/Whole Foods! no delay, no
left turn, no light, easy! What's the
problem?}
a year, had hearings; Ccl passed; engg drawings come forward;
Design Review to peer review
throw it out xxx
if pass at least have District-led, consult, peer review Bunt
at least if Pk R pays for it see if data makes any sense
shd say this shd happen in next X days/weeks/months
put matter to rest; nothing against public process; need to
say to PkR to this date
done our due diligence, public another kick
ev person in the biz, ev recommended it, NSh Disability Ppl
let's tighten this up; either approve this intersection
or tell PkR to build a tunnel
has to come to a conclusion
Mayor: step two and
MS: have a firm date; have an endorsement of intersection or
another recommendation
TP: completely agree with that long-term thinking
if not an intersection what wd work there; w/ that road wd an
intersection still be a viable option?
RF: staff report suggests an MAE looking at existing with
overpass and a signalized at-grade intersection
TP: the hierarchy we adopted, puts ppl first then buses so if I
apply that to it, not status quo b/c not dealing with........
know it's a lot smaller
intersection at 15th and Mathers handled it well; can I
extrapolate, a leap?
x has value here? maybe that's what we're looking at
my concern as Cclr Smith, don't have a long time
{till the
election?}
report, fairly comprehensive process; drawn into future?
we shd be trying to have those relationships anyway; making sure
we develop; both design rev
felt comf when I first voted, and still am, but prepared to
have a peer review
not fair to have something drag on a long time
SW: Cclr Panz's point, everything takes a long time
{Cclr W is used to fast efficient
biz; not govts......}
one little change by MOT caused a massive change
one intersection can make a massive diff to the whole traffic
flow
{yup}
although support from Blue Bus and Fire
to take into all this new devt, wasn't on the xxx last year;
200Ksf devt really changes
maybe go forward and say leave the overpass in case we need
it
{good point}
support MAE b/c
on same, timeline not drag out to next Nov
CAO: passed a year ago, then a number of changes
intersection -- we don't know where Perimeter Road will come
out
Marine Dr
devt on south side will curtail the Perimeter Rd
in 2.1, review shd be completed by April
Mayor: have to give PkR credit for Spirit Trail and bus lane
and
also PkR is interested in PkR; Big Box
way better off
this comes -- a bigger picture and serious;
low level road represents ... related to what PkR proposing ...
to devp openly we shd know
take down overpass, and shops go in those spots
met with PkR; diff towers and diff locations; unease xxx; big
resp
for sure the public in WV is going to be on it
in keeping with Cclr Smith's step by step to bring into full
view what PkR's plans a
limited jurisdiction
know what ... go back to DR recom, peer review and back to sus
asap; not narrow; surely professionals going to look at the
board
RF: offer of PkR funding the peer rev was a generous but one
of the points staff was going to respond to
proponent funded the Bunt in the first place
perhaps District wd be funding just to obtain objectivity so
felt District's money, MAE
however if PkR peer--
Mayor: I wd suggest our process and they pay
Sop: I'll be blunt and then
honey
peer review for PkR's gain
much success with Village and ... have you considered revamping
overpasses?
all the time I worked at PkR, revamp
imperative, consideration have a serious look at overpasses;
as alternate or viable source
now we see bushes higher than ppl, some near misses
expansion of PkR and xxx dangerous
welcome you great xxx patterns
but must be some consideration about the three lanes in and out;
it's split
McRadu's right, until lower crossing this is a rush to
judgement
{agreed}
xxx behooves us; with Cclr Lewis didn't bring a notice of
motion
WV residents need to be xxx
[11:03] might or not, but for you
TP: to follow up on peer review on work already done by Bunt or
this new devt on that site
RF: latest take in, assumptions, percentage of Village
expansion, cinema in plans, two towers, 450 to 500 resid units in
back; near-term scenario
regardless of where you put but xxx taken into
consideration
Ev: as a follow-on, so the Bunt parameters have changed?
the report we received a year ago -- you're saying the model
has been changed but we haven't seen it?
RF: a lot of work, staff working with PkR, since Aug 2010;
didn't seem to coincide xxxx
take in Sept when back to school; factor and that was
finalized in Oct last year; decision made later on in 2010
Mayor: shd take a vote, then xxx, and if that cd be completed by
Feb???
SW: narrow in scope; app'd re CAO report, takes in all the
players
if we're going to delay this, shd do it properly
Mayor: peer review of intersection taking into account xxx
RF: Bunt takes into consideration some seen in last couple of
months
if peer review, wd indeed be a technical review
perhaps we cd have from MoT, Sq N, PkR at same time
technical peer review but include the perspective of some of
these other stakeholders
{given circumstances
reasonable/wise suggestion}
Mayor: coming at this a bit backwards; defeating the motion
Sop: who's drawing up this?
Mayor: --
SW: amendment
Mayor: if defeated; another motion
DEFEATED
Mayor: let's see what we come up with now
Sq Nation, Larco; by March 2012
Sop: wd like to see it
ML: Mr Fung
the diff between a peer review and an MAE
are we going to get an equivalent level of x and
analysis?
RF: as described in the staff report; variation; some
staff suggested went so far as an independent model; felt wd be
quite costly
technical peer review wd look at some of the
suggestions
28-second delay M? to 11th
other movements wd reduce the delay; typical queueing,
four or five cars deep at any one light
175 m backed up in ev direction
wd look at some assumptions; wd see if make
diff
but wd not recreate a brand new indep model
Sokol: a technical peer review is looking at movement of
cars through corridor
wd not be looking at pedestrian, bicycle impacts wch an MAE
wd
Mayor: and peer review wd not include bicycle and ppl, --
are you kidding me ??? !
RF; cars going; looking at pedestrian linkage
wd have to add time to that phase; wd make East/West longer
public -- and that wd be accomplished through an
MAE
Sop: why wd CAO go through all this?
this is about an area with gridlock; we've already done
peer review
we want to do xxx everything; it's benefit to
everyone
Mayor: motion on the floor
peer review ....... read out
MS: as I see it; much of Cclr Sop's question part of that
review; all got to be looked at
{yes, all, but peer review
doesn't!}
Sop: peer review won't get everything
ML: maybe we cd include walkers, xxx ...
MS: I'll accept that as a friendly amendment
Mayor: cars, pedestrians, all modes of
MS: skateboards
[who?]: roller blades
SW: add streetscape -- that's what they came up with at
Design
Sop: to streetscape; exactly what CAO xxx
going to ask about timings; we need an evaluation period; takes
everybody
Mayor: seconder to add streetscape
MS: reword, xxx [11:18]; report back by March 2012; captures
ev
it's 11:18!
Mayor: ... can't
[Someone]: mention TransLink as well
Mayor: can't keep
MS: next mtg
Sop: let's do it now; shdn't let it linger; bigger picture and
move on
Mayor: magically -- landscaping?
Ccl endorses xxx including a peer review
to everything, cars, take into acct future of PkR
Sop: I want to ... don't agree
Mayor: then vote against it
PASSED with Sop opposed [11:21]
2. The creation of a Park Royal At-Grade Intersection Working
Group be referred to the Cmnty Engagement Cmte; and
3. A budget of $20,000 for this study be provided from 2011
surplus funds.
{surplus funds? surplus funds? how much is in that fund???
initially and now left?}
start KIWANIS
insert ********
BYLAWS [8:24]
{we now
interrupt the programming.
It's this about
Kiwanis that was moved to the beginning of the
mtg.
from here to the
Consent Agenda (8:24 to 8:33) was dealt with right at the start for
continuity after the PH.}
SW: ...some of the remarks about smaller; interesting
discussion
ML: v supportive; plsd it's here this evening; hope pass
expeditiously
Ev: thank Mr Heaslip and his team for an extraordinary team
do like the idea of living in one of these homes
want to emphasize what Cclr Walker made; need for smaller
units
is there any flexibility either the footprint or
general to vary if proponents want to go back and
take a second look
Sokol: at this point wd require changing density and opening
the PH
Sop: I was around when they did the one on 21st
[chuckles]
Sop: not that long ago
toured the site, v modern, great living conditions
WV unique high assessments
Kiwanis taking on this challenge; who else wd do it
not much benevolence, high priced land; congratulate you
another landmark for WV
Sokol: need to clarify
diff ways you can measure density, no of units or floor area
so as long as the floor area density doesn't change -- that wdn't
require PH
{apparently when Geri Boyle went
up to him and explained density in this case was measured on FAR not
number of units; huge difference if PH need not be re-opened, esp when
it's clear that much better with more small units. $400+ per
month is essential for pensioners getting $13 - 19K a year, rather
than the $750+ for the new stes!}
we'd be reporting back to Ccl on if you give second
reading
DP doesn't come back until second reading
MS: Kiwanis the dedicated group; extremely knowledgeable, give
benefit of doubt agonized
wd say plan formulated for sound reasons; not tinker with size
of units
{but why not more bachelor units
when cheaper and residents financially-challenged???
why does Kiwanis want units almost
twice the rent???}
Mayor: Mr Heaslip said they'd be willing to come back
xxx ... ; Sop and I were there the last time
Sop: sorry, didn't realize you were there
Mayor: really app that type of pressure
sometimes shows why the OCP needs to be varied b/c it can be
improved
CARRIES
SW moved third reading
Zoning Bylaw
ML: move second reading
PASSED [8:30]
No. 4694, 2011 (Kiwanis Seniors Housing Society development
application) (File:
1610-20-4694)
The proposed bylaw received first reading at
the Sept 12 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a Public Hearing/Public
Meeting held on October 3. If the PH/PMtg was closed, Ccl may
consider the following recommendations.
Note: Each reading of an Official Community Plan bylaw or bylaw
amendment must receive an affirmative vote of a majority of all
Council members (4 members) in order for the bylaw to proceed
(Local Government Act, s.882).
RECOMMENDED: THAT proposed OCP Bylaw Amendment
Bylaw be revised as follows:
That in the title of the bylaw
"4630" be replaced with "4360" (so that the
title reads "Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 4360, 2004,
Amendment Bylaw No. 4694, 2011").
RECOMMENDED MOTION: be read a second
time as revised.
RECOMMENDED MOTION: be read a third
time.
The proposed bylaw received first reading at
the Sept 12 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a Public Hearing/Public
Meeting
[8:31]
RECOMMENDED: be read a second
time; RECOMMENDED: be read a third time.
MS made the motions and all
passed
The proposed bylaw received first reading at
the Sept 12 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a Public Hearing/Public
Meeting held on October 3. If the PH/PMtg was closed, Ccl may
consider the following recommendations.
RECOMMENDED: be read a second time; RECOMMENDED: be read a
third time.
MS: think totally appropriate
TP: understand tax exempt as well
Sokol: yes
Sop: thinks further indicates
our way to share in helping; DCC
said they'd be looking at other ways for grants -- good luck
with prov and feds
one way can be done
CARRIES [8:33]
********end of
KIWANIS insert discussed at beginning of mtg
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
20. Consent Agenda Items
The following Consent Agenda items may be considered
separately or in one recommendation.
RECOMMENDED: THAT the Consent Agenda items
as follows be approved:
Item 20.1 - Development Variance
Permit No. 11-038 (1365 28th Street); and
Item 20.2 - Correspondence
List.
RECOMMENDED: THAT
the M Clerk give notice that DVP No.
11-038 for 1365 28th St to allow a new two-storey dwelling to be
constructed, will be considered on Monday, Nov
7.
The correspondence list was received for information. [Whole list
was in last issue on the agenda]
Council Correspondence
Update to Sept 16 (up to 12:00 Noon)
...(4) Committee and Board Meeting Minutes
- Finance Committee - April 11, 2011
{the minutes appearing only now about five months
later???}
...(6) September 12, re Requesting to have Demolition Permits
at the Site of Haywood and 21 Street, (Kiwanis) REVOKED until this
matter is settled properly
Response to Correspondence
...(12) B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands and Permits,
September 14, 2011, response to West Vancouver Historical Society,
regarding Gertrude Lawson House
Council Correspondence
Update to September 23, 2011 (up to 12:00 Noon)
> Received for Information
...6. Eight Submissions dated Sept 13-22, re Recent
Proposals by AmblesideNow and Related Advisory Groups
...
21. OTHER ITEMS -- No
items.
22. REPORTS from MAYOR/CCLRS
23. PUBLIC QUESTIONS/COMMENTS
Mayor: Carolanne Reynolds. Have mercy.
CR: [unintelligible on way up] I have all this paper here
so I' ll be v v fast.
CR West Van Matters
btw, and I do appreciate your efforts -- I know it took a long
time to try to include everything when you're looking at that
{re at-grade???}
B/c these questions haven't been answered, I said I wd come and
list them all now so that there's no doubt about it.
I first asked about the notes of the Climate Action WG for
wch there've been no Notes since Oct 2009. I first asked
in June 2010. There still are no Notes since Oct 29th
[2009].
I asked about whether public were allowed to attend Museum
Adv Cmte [mtgs] -- there's a whole list of [various cmtes/WGs]
those mtgs, I can give them to you. I did enumerate them Sept
12. Again, I have done that before and I still have no responses
at all.
I appreciate -- and other ppl have said to me they haven't got
responses to their questions -- I think it wd be helpful if you made a
statement as to how long residents shd wait for a reply.
And one other question I have is, ah, I understand when you write
a letter to Mayor and Ccl it goes in the Correspondence List.
It has come to may attention that some letters that have been
addressed to all the mbrs of Ccl have not gone to the Correspondence
List so I respectfully request that that policy be followed and that
there be responses.
I don't want to take your time now but I have this all
documented.
I wd really appreciate a reply. I've asked several
times. After the mtg on Sept 19, I happened to mention to a
couple of mbrs of staff, when are you going to answer these?
That was two weeks ago. They said they'd look at it
"tomorrow morning" and I still haven't had an answer about
that.
I know we're all v busy and working hard. I think it wd be
helpful to have a policy and I don't know who's going to make sure
it's followed, but I think that wd [hard to hear: address the
situation?]
but again, I really do appreciate your trying to look at -- it's
right Pk Royal...
{muffled but the intention was to compliment staff for asking
for an MAE re the at-grade intersection, and for Ccl to approve it
after Sop made his impassioned plea.}
What protection does the Murrell house have if it's on the
Heritage Inventory? You can answer that another time but I
just heard that mentioned tonight, and I'd like to ask.
In the meantime, Happy Thanksgiving.
Mayor: thank you
I believe we have a Climate Action Policy; I believe it's been
enshrined in our OCP and we have targets. That's the outcome of the
Climate Action WG and looking for Notes from 2009 and the early days,
and I'm not going to debate this,
{Oh? So you don't want misleading
statements to be challenged/clarified? I'll agree it's late and
no time to debate, but perhaps cd be said that this will be followed
up and answered at the next mtg.......}
I'm just saying the CAWG is well-documented in approved
policy.
{Completely misses two important
points: no Notes when that's part of the WG guidelines; and no
reply. All WGs produce a report -- that's not bring
debated. Notes are missing from Oct 2009 to March 2010 for the
CAWG, AND I first asked about them in June 2010, a couple of
times over past year and STILL with NO reply. It was not early
days when I asked, so being dismissed now b/c of that is not
valid.}
wrt the Museum Adv Cmte, I'm sure you can attend open mtgs,
but perhaps if the dates aren't posted that's difficult to do so,
who's responsible for that. Mr Leigh?
{BINGO! Exactly. They
have never been on the DWV Calendar. Why is no one apparently
making sure procedures are followed? BL does not
speak.}
wrt how often we reply, I think most times we reply almost
instantly
{hearty har har!}
I know I sure do--
CR: --Oh, you do, yes--
Mayor: --and so, the Murrell House, I think they have not
registered on that formal Heritage Registry wch wd hv come to our
attention, b/c we just went through that whole process as you
know. Then it's the prerogative of the owner; it's nothing that
we can really do.
{Well, it was a bit difficult, if
not deceptive. The Murrell house is on the Heritage Inventory
(right from the early lists, 1987 or before), although called the
Downing House and more significant, in the HI, the address given is
1991 Inglewood, wch I wd hv recognized immediately. Capt George
Murrell, a long-time president of ADRA, used that address. I was
unaware there was an address of 20th although aware it was a corner
lot.
Indeed, when I asked staff about
1148 20th, staff replied it was not on the Heritage Inventory!
But there it is on page 17, however listed as 1991 Inglewood.
Were we successfully fooled or distracted?
Also, b/c of her work with
vanDusen, Aimee Murrell's garden was noteworthy.
Regardless, the heritage element
ought to have been mentioned in the discussion. Were no cclrs
aware it was a primary building in the H Inv?
May I again recommend if anything
on the HI is affected, notice shd be provided to heritage and
historical groups.
And of course there's something
staff and Ccl can do! At least bring the heritage aspect to our
attention. Shades of our belatedly/indirectly learning the
Gertrude Lawson House was apparently destined for
demolition.
So Murrell house (called Downing
House) demolished and Klee Wyck said to be on last legs so not worth
keeping. Loss through neglect common.}
In terms of response time, from a mbr of staff or Ccl wrt a
reply, I think we maintain a pretty high level of service, so I wd
appreciate knowing the cases where that has not happened.
{will provide a list of instances; and
let's not get into whether satisfactory or complete
answers}
I'm willing to bet, that's the vast minority.
{indeed it is!}
And I'm going to ask for a motion to adjourn.
[MS obliged]
24. ADJOURNMENT [11:27; and remember their ccl mtg started
at 5pm!]
=== COUNCIL MTG AGENDA
Monday Oct 17th ===
6pm in M HALL MAIN FLOOR CONFERENCE
ROOM; 7pm in M HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER
Note: At 6pm the regular Ccl Mtg will commence
in open session (in the MFCR), and will be immediately followed by a
motion to exclude the public (section 90 of the Cmnty Charter). At
7pm in the Ccl Chamber the PH re Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010,
Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 (Sunset Lane) will be held. The Ccl
Mtg will reconvene in open session in the Council Chamber immediately
following the PH.
6:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER OPEN SESSION
2. EXCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC
RECOMMENDED: THAT in the public interest, mbrs of
the public be excluded from part of the [ccl mtg] on the basis of
matters to be considered under the Cmnty Charter:
90. (1) A part of a ccl mtg may be closed to the
public if the subject matter being considered relates to or is one or
more of the following:
a. personal information about an
identifiable individual who holds or is being considered for a
position as an officer, employee, or agent of the municipality or
another position appointed by the municipality;
e. the acquisition, disposition, or
expropriation of land or improvements, if the council considers that
disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the
municipality;
g. litigation or potential
litigation affecting the municipality; and
k. negotiations and related
discussions respecting the proposed provision of a municipal service
that are at their preliminary stages and that, in the view of the
council, could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the
municipality if they were held in public.
3. ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION
At 7pm the PH re Zoning for Sunset Lane will be held. The
open session of the Council meeting will reconvene immediately
following the conclusion of the Public Hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING
AGENDA
Note: At 7pm the PH will commence in the
Ccl Chamber. The Ccl Mtg will reconvene immediately following the PH
for consideration of the scheduled agenda items.
7:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. PUBLIC HEARING
The Director of Planning, Lands and Permits will describe the
subject application.
Applicant: BCR Properties Ltd.
Subject Lands: Sunset Lane Lands
Purpose: To allow the Sunset Lane Lands to be
subdivided into 28 new undersized lots for consolidation or lease to
adjacent properties and to amend the regulations pertaining to
accessory buildings on these lots. Sunset Lane is located
parallel to Marine Drive, adjacent to the railway line, starting at
Creery Avenue. The Sunset Lane Lands and adjacent properties are
shown in Appendix A of the report dated September 13, 2011 regarding
Zoning Bylaw No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 - Sunset
Lane (included in the Public Hearing Agenda Package).
As part of the subdivision creating the 28 undersized lots, a
portion of BC Rail land known as Sunset Lane would be dedicated to the
District of West Vancouver as "lane". The rail line will
remain in a separate right of way.
Proposed Zoning Bylaw Amendment: If adopted, Zoning Bylaw
No. 4662, 2010, Amendment Bylaw No. 4701, 2011 would amend the Zoning
Bylaw by:
1. amending the RS4 zone and General Regulations
relating to minimum site area, minimum lot width, maximum lot depth
and minimum building site conditions to allow 28 new undersized lots
to be created from the Sunset Lane Lands in order to consolidate or
lease to adjacent lots.
2. amending the General Regulations regarding
how accessory building height is calculated and the minimum distance
an accessory building must be located from a house, where a lot
includes the Sunset Lane Lands, as follows:
Current
Requirement
Proposed Zoning Amendment
Max height
3.7m from average grade 3.7m from
adjacent lane elevation when located within rear 10m of
lot
Accessory Building Separation from
House
4.5m 0m or, if
separated, 1.2m minimum
3. PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURE
Acting Mayor Panz will describe the procedure for the Public
Hearing...
If you have any concerns about the rules or the Hearing, please
address your comments to me, as the Chair.
4. REPORTS/WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS
1) Reports received up to and including October 13, 2011:
TITLE
/
DATE
/ DATE FOR CONSIDERATION
/ NO.
September 13,
2011 / September 19, 2011/ October 17,
2011
/ R-1
2) Written submissions received up to and including October 13,
2011:
AUTHOR
/
DATE
/ DATE FOR
CONSIDERATION
/
NO.
British Columbia Railway Properties
/ Sept 19
/ Sept. 19/ Oct
17
/
C-1
On September 19, 2011 Council set the date for
the Public Hearing. On September 29, 2011 notices were mailed to
owners/occupiers within the notification area. The statutory notice of
Public Hearing was published in the North Shore News on October 9 and
12, 2011. The Municipal Clerk will note written submissions received
for the October 17, 2011 Public Hearing.
5. APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION
6. PUBLIC INPUT
Acting Mayor Panz will call for public input.
7. CLOSURE OR ADJOURNMENT OF PUBLIC HEARING
If there is no further public input and Council does not
request a further staff report:
RECOMMENDED:
THAT all written and verbal submissions ... be received and
that the Public Hearing be closed.
OR
If Council requests a further staff report:
RECOMMENDED: THAT staff report back to Council ... and that
the Public Hearing be adjourned to ____________________. (date, time,
and location)
Members of Council are not
permitted to receive further submissions once the Public Hearing is
closed.
Following conclusion of the Public Hearing, the following
items will be considered:
REGULAR CCL MTG
4. RECONVENE OPEN SESSION
5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
6. ADOPTION OF MINUTES
To be provided on October 14, 2011.
RECOMMENDED: THAT the following Minutes be adopted as
circulated:
October 3 Public Hearing/Public Meeting; and October 3,
2011 Regular Council Meeting.
{Oct 15 morning, only reg ccl
mtg minutes appeared:}
6.
Adoption of October 3, 2011 Council Meeting
Minutes
October 3, 2011 Public Hearing/Public Meeting
minutes to be provided.
RECOMMENDED: THAT the following Minutes be adopted as
circulated:
=85 October 3, 2011 Public Hearing/Public Meeting;
and
=85
October 3, 2011 Regular Council Meeting.
DELEGATIONS
7. North Shore Multicultural Society, regarding Services for
New Immigrants and Not For Profit Facility Rental Issues on the North
Shore (File: 0055-20-NSMS1)
PowerPoint presentation to be provided.
RECOMMENDED: THAT Council thank E. Jones of the North
Shore Multicultural Society...
REPORTS
PowerPoint presentation to be provided.
RECOMMENDED: THAT
1. The term for the WG be extended for a further
six months to March 31; and
2. The Parks Master Plan Working Group continue to
develop the preliminary working draft of the Parks Master Plan,
including further public consultation, as set out in the report
dated October 5, 2011 titled "...Preliminary Working
Draft... "
and bring back the final report with a prioritized implementation
strategy to Council in 2012.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT Zoning Amendment Bylaw for property located at 2436 Haywood,
as attached to the report by the Sr Cmnty Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty
Planning dated October 6 be introduced and read a first time in short
form.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT the M Clerk be directed to give statutory notice that a PH
is scheduled for Monday, Nov 7.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT proposed Devt Permit attached to the report from Sr Cmnty
Planner and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated Oct 6 be considered
concurrently with Zoning Amendment Bylaw No. 4697, 2011.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT the public be given an opportunity to provide comment on the
proposed Devt Permit attached to the report from the Sr Cmnty Planner
and the Mgr of Cmnty Planning dated Oct 6 at a Public Mtg held
concurrently with the PH on Zoning
RECOMMENDED:
THAT Council supports [sic] the proposed amendments to the MetroV
RGS as described in the report dated October 5, 2011 entitled,
"Metro Vancouver Regional Growth Strategy Amendments".
BYLAWS
The proposed bylaws received first reading at
the September 12, 2011 Council Meeting, were the subject of a Public
Hearing/Public Meeting held and closed on October 3, 2011, and
received second and third readings on October 3,
2011.
Note: Each reading of an Official Community
Plan bylaw or bylaw amendment must receive an affirmative vote of a
majority of all Council members (4 members) in order for the
bylaw to proceed (Local Government Act, s.882).
RECOMMENDED:
THAT
the OCP Amendment Bylaw be adopted.
THAT
the Zoning Amendment Bylaw be adopted.
THAT
the Devt Cost Charge Waiver Bylaw be adopted.
THAT
the Devt Permit for property located at the 900 Block of 21st Street
be approved.
The proposed bylaw received first reading
at the Sept 19 Ccl Mtg and was the subject of a PH held on Oct 17. If
the PH was closed, Ccl may consider the following recommendations. Ccl
is not permitted to receive any submissions regarding the subject
bylaw after the PH has closed.
RECOMMENDED: be read a second time.... / be
read a third time.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
13. Consent Agenda Items
The following Consent Agenda items may be considered
separately or in one recommendation.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT the Consent Agenda items as follows be approved:
Item 13.1 - Lots 14 to 17 in Rodgers Creek Area 2;
Amendment No. 1 to Devt Permit; and
Item 13.2 - Correspondence List.
RECOMMENDED:
THAT the M Clerk give notice that the Amendment to the Devt
Permit for Rodgers Creek Area 2 (located north of Chippendale Road and
the Chelsea subdivision), which establishes [site-specific]
regulations for [single-family] house construction on Lots 14 to 17
Plan BCP 45164, will be considered at the Ccl Mtg on Monday, Nov
7.
RECOMMENDED: THAT the correspondence list be received for
information.
Council Correspondence Update to September
30, 2011 (up to 12:00 Noon)
> Referred for Action
1. F. Metcalf, September 25, 2011, regarding
Dangerous Corner on Upper Levels
(Referred to Director of Engg and Transportation for
consideration and response)
2. Park Royal Shopping Centre Ltd, Sept 28, re Street
Level Intersection to be Constructed by PkR.
(Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and
response)
3. [Two] submissions from Western Residents'
Association and Otterstein Construction Services, dated September 25
and 29, 2011, regarding Smart Meters in West Vancouver
(Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and
response)
> Received for Information
4. [Eight] submissions dated Sept 22-28 re Kiwanis
Seniors Housing Society (Devt Proposal 900 Block 21st)
(Referred to October 3, 2011 Public Hearing/Public
Meeting)
5. L. Waverley, September 23, 2011, regarding
Proposed Building Plans for 2372 Bellevue Avenue
6. J. Gijssen and Dr. J. Nightingale, Sept 25, re
Public Safety Building and AmblesideNow
> Responses to Correspondence
7. B. Sokol, Dir/Planning, Sept 20, response to P.
Miller, regarding Bylaw Offences on the Seawall
{Miller wrote asking June 3rd}
8. B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands, and
Permits, Sept 21, 2011, response to M. MacMillan, regarding Kiwanis
Development Proposal for the 900 Block of 21st Street
{Reply required for PH}
9. B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands, and
Permits, September 21, 2011, response regarding Bylaw Officer for Dog
Issues Must Now Educate Through Enforcement
{Query sent June 24th}
10. B. Sokol, Dir/Planning, September 21, response to B.
Adie, regarding Gertrude Lawson Site
{Adie wrote June 22nd}
Council Correspondence Update to October 7,
2011 (up to 12:00 Noon)
> Referred for Action
1. M. Booth, Chair, WV Board of Education, October 3, 2011,
re Devt Cost Charges (DCC's) [sic] related to a Modular Building
Installation at West Bay School
(Referred to Director of Planning, Lands and Permits for
consideration and response)
2. C. Ballantine, October 6, 2011, regarding Bus Stop
Billboards
(Referred to Director of Engineering and Transportation for
consideration and response)
> Received for Information
3. Cmte/Bd Mtg Minutes: WV Memorial Library Bd - July
20; Design Review Cmte - August 25
4. J. and W. Cooper, Sept 17, regarding Proposed
Development on Beach Front at Foot of 14th Street
5. Scouts Canada, Pacific Coast Council, September
28, 2011, regarding Annual "Apple Day" Awareness /
Fund-raising Event October 15-16, 2011
6. J. Seddon, September 30, regarding Waterfront
Petition Wording -- {signed
by over 1100}
7. M. Latham, September 30, 2011, regarding Blog
competition re municipal elections
{WVM is NOT part of the competition contrary to a
report}
8. West Vancouver Baha'i Community, September 2011,
regarding Thirteenth Annual Unity in Diversity Awards (Attachments
available for viewing in Legislative Services Department)
{922 5152;
nomination deadline Oct 28}
9. H[eather] Johnston, October 3, 2011, regarding
Urban Garage / Shell Station
10. E. and D. Friesen, October 3, 2011, regarding New Bus
Shelters / Billboards
11. J. Seddon, Save the Park Cmte, Oct 4, re Petition -
Proposed construction of Buildings on our Ambleside
waterfront
12. J. Seddon, October 6, 2011, regarding Ambleside
Waterfront
13. J. May, October 7, 2011, regarding Waterfront Buildings
> Response to Correspondence
14. B. Sokol, Director of Planning, Lands and Permits, Sept 30,
response to M. Carter, regarding Taxes
{Carter wrote asking April 6th}
Council Correspondence Update to October 11,
2011 (up to 4:30 PM)
> Referred for Action
(1) Citizens for Safe Technology, October 11, 2011, regarding
Request for Delegation (re BC Hydro Smart Meters - Concerns and
Requests) to Attend Council Meeting and Delegation Documentation
(Referred to Mayor for consideration)
(2) National Defence - Maritime Forces Pacific, September 26,
2011, regarding Cadet Programme in British Columbia (Request for
Support)
(Referred to Mayor and Council for consideration and
response).
>> NOT ON
AGENDA but now on Correspondence webpage so probably will be added
Monday night:
COUNCIL CORRESPONDENCE UPDATE TO OCTOBER 14,
2011 (NOON)
> Referred for Action
(1) The Royal Canadian Legion, Branch 60, Aug 12, re
Request for Consideration of Tax Exemption Status
(Referred to Director of Financial Services for consideration
and response)
(2) J. Beninger, October 10, 2011, re Non Response to three Requests Over 11 Months to Deal
With Unsafe Disposal of Household and Garden Waste at 2529
Marine Drive, West Vancouver
(Referred to Director of Planning, Lands and Permits for
consideration and response)
(3) M. Booth, Chair, West Vancouver Board of Education,
October 12, 2011, regarding Annual Fees for Fire Inspection of West
Vancouver Public Schools
(Referred to Fire Chief for consideration and response)
-----------------
(4) G. Polman, October 14, 2011,
regarding Ambleside-Now - Public Safety Building
(PSB)
(Referred to Dir/Planning, for consideration and
response)
re "POLMAN'S FIVE" Questions
ASKED at CCL MTG JULY 4
Why now referred to Dir/Planning?
Strange b/c Dir/Fin said she'd answer and so did CAO whose report was
on the Oct 3rd agenda.
When asked about answers to his
five questions, Garrett Polman replied (the same day!): "Fact
is I received no answers to my questions of July 4th except for an
email from the CAO informing me that my issues would be addressed in a
staff report on AmblesideNOW going to Council in the fall, but that
report did not address any of my
questions."
----------------
> Received for Information
(5) Decoda Literacy Solutions, September 27, 2011,
regarding Community Literacy Programs
(6) Statistics Canada, Western Region and Northern
Territories, August 24, 2011, regarding Appreciation for Support in
Promoting 2011 Census and National Household Survey (NHS)
(7) J. Seddon, Save the Park Committee, October 13, 2011,
regarding Additional Signed Petitions
(Objection to the Construction of Buildings on Ambleside Park
Land)
> Response to Correspondence
(8) B. Sokol, Dir/Planning, Oct 3, 2011, response to S. lverach,
regarding Ambleside Revitalization
{Query emailed July 4th}
14. OTHER ITEMS -- none
15. REPORTS FROM MAYOR/CCLRS 16. PUBLIC QUESTIONS/COMMENTS
17. ADJOURNMENT
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=== INFObits ===
+ Portugal
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+ Canada's Citizenship Week October 16 - 22:
It's a time to reflect on the value and meaning of citizenship,
and to celebrate the history, symbols, institutions, and values that
define us as Canadians.
Prime Minister Harper said: "Our citizenship defines our
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=== PEACEWATCH
=== To view the on-line
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CPTnet 9 October 2011
AL-KHALIL (HEBRON) REFLECTION: The power of hope-what
Palestinians are saying about recent events at the U.N.
by Art Arbour
"No!" This is the answer one gets when you ask
Palestinian shopkeepers in Hebron whether they expect anything good to
come out of the recent events at the United Nations. They cite
the twenty years of broken promises-especially those of Barack Obama.
They point out the continuing political power of the Israeli
settlers, the daily confiscation of more Palestinian lands, and the
Israeli control of 65% of the West Bank.
They have expressed many worries to CPT's Al-Khalil team:
- That the Palestinian authority's style of governance and the
internal decision-making processes have left Hamas out of the
discussion.
- The lack of transparency, e.g., in budgets for security services
or social programs.
- That Mahmoud Abbas will give up the right of Palestinian refugees
to return to either their homes or the new Palestinian state.
- That Israeli settlers will react violently, using new powers
afforded them by the Israeli military, if the United Nations votes for
Palestine to become a non-voting member of the U.N.
- The quality of leadership in Israel and Palestine: "We
are going to the game with the same old coach and players - people who
have failed in the past to create positive change," one
shopkeeper said.
And yet ... despite all the dashed hopes and broken promises and
dissatisfaction with the leadership, almost everyone supports the
application for statehood, even if it fails. The application
proclaims that Palestinians want freedom and brings the occupation to
the attention of the world in a powerful way.
"All families are talking about it," said one friend.
And "we don't need anyone to tell us that we deserve it
because everyone deserves freedom!" Another said,
"People are angry at Obama because he raises expectations but we
don't hang our hopes on the US."
A survey by a Palestinian news agency revealed that 75% of
Palestinians believe that the Americans will veto the application at
the U.N. security council. Others believe the US will prevent
the issue coming to a vote or will abstain from casting a vote.
And yet ... during the week before Abbas spoke at the U.N., tens
of thousands demonstrated on Hebron's main street, which one observer
described as more of a celebration. "Yesterday," he
told me, "Many marched for the first time - old men, many women
and children too. Members of Hamas, communists and simple people
who in the past have been totally nonpolitical, only interested in
family and business." Thousands more celebrated at a soccer
game, more thousands at a rock concert where a big name group of old
rockers from the 1970s performed popular revolutionary songs.
Most people agreed that there will be no Arab Spring in
Palestine; the bad economy will prevent people from taking off work to
march in the streets. However, one person said, "We are
exhausted but we are not turned off. We need to trust a new
leader and we need to trust in life."
After sixty-three years, hope remains.
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CPT's MISSION: What would happen if Christians
devoted the same discipline and sacrifice to nonviolent peacemaking
that armies devote to war? Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT) seeks to
enlist the whole church in organized, nonviolent alternatives to war
and places teams of trained peacemakers in regions of lethal
conflict.
COMMENTS: To ask questions or express concerns,
criticisms and affirmations send messages to
peacemakers@cpt.org.
=== ARTWATCH === Pencil
Power
You
will not believe what you see from these pencils -- Faber
Castell http://vimeo.com/27405001
=== RISING
CAIN === Herman
http://www.economist.com/node/21532282?fsrc=nlw%7Chig%7C10-13-2011%7Ceditors_highlights
... The latest excitement, however, is perhaps the most
unexpected of all: Herman Cain, a former pizza mogul and talk-show
host.
... Mr Cain has an impressive and uplifting resume.
Despite coming from a poor black family, he earned degrees in
mathematics and computing, and worked briefly for the navy as a rocket
scientist. He had successful stints as a manager at Coca-Cola and
Pillsbury, a food group, before leading a buy-out of one of its
subsidiaries, Godfather's Pizza. He served on, and ultimately chaired,
the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.
...
=== MONEYWATCH
===
http://www.icba.bc.ca/documents/ConstructionMonitorFall2011.pdf
Canadian Federation of Independent
Business
Why is spending growth so robust? Why do
municipalities keep asking taxpayers for more? You don't need to look
any further than their badly out-of-proportion labour costs. A
municipal worker in BC is paid 10 per cent more on average than a
private-sector counterpart. With benefits they get 35 per cent
more.
ICBA recently combed through of a number of
collective agreements signed by BC municipalities (see page 3). We
found gold-plated contract terms like gratuity days (time off on top
of regular holidays and sick time, just for coming to work), defined
benefit pensions, and bloated holiday provisions. While most
taxpayers worried about losing their jobs through the worst recession
in recent memory, many municipal workers were handed pay increases
larger than the rate of inflation.
Unions are not to blame - they are there to
grab as much as they can for members. It is municipal politicians who
have forgotten how to say no to everything but tax increases. It's
clear that municipalities need to refocus on cost reductions and take
a good, hard look at their job-for-life unionized
workforces.
Cities can cut costs and save. It's
happening in Toronto, which is moving garbage collection away from
city workers and towards independent contractors. Though it's only
happening in select parts of the city, the expected savings are $8
million or 17 per cent a year. South of the border the taxpayers of
Phoenix, Arizona (see page 4) - are reaping the benefits of
multi-faceted cost control programs.
The Broader Cost Impact
Out-of-control municipal spending means
more than rising property taxes. A vast number of municipal fees and
charges are layered onto the cost of new homes and other buildings,
driving up the cost of living.
=== WATERWATCH ===
IOW == thirst; ethnic cleansing
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 From: "CPTnet: the news service of
CPT" <cptnet@mailman.cpt.org>
http://www.cpt.org/cptnet/2011/10/15/al-khalil-hebron-water-shortage--daily-palestinian-experience
CPTnet 15 October 2011
AL-KHALIL (HEBRON): Water shortage-a daily Palestinian
experience
by Reinhard Kober
Abu Jamal is head of a well-known family in Halhul, to the north
of Al-Khalil. It is a beautiful hilltop town, surrounded by
fields and lovely gardens. Like other cities in the Palestinian
Authority-administered Area A, its population has grown from some
3,000 in the sixties to 30,000 now. Because of this growth, the
infrastructure also has needed to expand. For the last few
years, the town has needed to open a new school each year.
Living east of the green line border, Abu Jamal and his sons,
like many other people, may no longer legally work in Israel.
They invested in greenhouses, cultivated eggplants and tomatoes,
and were generally successful at first. When I asked him how his
farming is going, he shrugged his shoulders, and his face showed
immediately that things are becoming worse. "We don't
have the water we need," he said. "Just three hours of
water access per week is not enough. Buying water in tanks is
too expensive. We can't do anything."
Listening him, I am reminded of my last walk to the vegetable
market in Al Khalil/Hebron. When the Israel army shut down
the old vegetable market next to the Avraham Avinu settlement
(which violated the Sharm-Al-Sheikh agreement between Israel and
Palestine), the entire city suffered. If you look at the
piles of boxes with Hebrew labels, you get an idea of how Israeli
companies profit from taking advantage of the inadequate water
resources. According OCHA (U.N. Office for the Coordination
of Humanitarian Affairs) and an Amnesty International report,
Palestinians are denied access to the water aquifer underneath their
own land. On average, Israelis use 300 liters of water
per day, Palestinians only sixty liters. Palestinians are not
even allowed to dig their own wells. The situation in area C,
controlled by the Israeli Civil Administration is worse. The
Israeli military often destroys cisterns, which collect rainwater, to
make life in this area more difficult. An OCHA official
told me, "It's easy to make the fields bloom in dry areas
[in Israel] when you deny others the use of their own
water."
Abu Jamal wants his children to study at Abu Dis University,
which is very expensive. So, at great personal risk, he sneaks
across the border to earn money at an illegal job in Israel and sleeps
without a shelter. On the one hand, he finished our
conversation, saying again, "What we can do?" On the
other hand, I think he is still not giving up on a better future for
his growing family.
=== WOMANWATCH
===
http://www.ctv.ca/gallery/html/ent-celebrity-engagement-rings-111006/index_.html
=== SCHOOLWATCH === how
lucky our children are to go to school
October 11, 2011 Contact: Christian Peacemaker Teams,
Al-Khalil
SEVEN CHILDREN INJURED AT CORTUBA SCHOOL CHECKPOINT
HEBRON, WEST BANK - Tuesday, October 11, 2010
At approximately 10am, two CPT representatives were called to
Cortuba School.
Observers informed CPTers that The Israeli Army would not allow
teachers to pass through the gate at the side of the checkpoint as was
the agreed upon, they were told they had to pass through the
container. The teacher refused to enter through the container and
remained outside the checkpoint. The head principal explained that the
refusal by the teachers to pass through the checkpoint container was
an act of resistance because no justification for the new order
prohibiting teachers to enter through the gate was given.
Some of the children returned from the school seeking information
as to why teachers were not in school, clashes at the checkpoint
ensued with the soldiers and settlers, resulting in seven children
being taken to the hospital.
=== MIDDLE EAST WATCH
===
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:22:25 -0700 (PDT)
Title of Piece: Canada plays the wrong hand on Palestine
Media Outlet: Toronto Star
Taufiq Rahim explains why it is wrong that Canada has decided to
oppose the bid for Palestinian Statehood at the UN. In his article,
Rahim explains that Canada's bias towards Israel and its opposition to
the bid go against both international and domestic public opinion.
Furthermore, the Harper government's opposition interferes with the
peace process for both Israel and Palestine.
=== CBCWATCH motivation
and inspiration ===
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/2011/10/03/the-mayor-of-mogadishu/#igImgId_19328
Monday October 3,
2011 The Mayor of
Mogadishu
If you're looking to make a
difference in politics, there are easier places than the capital of
Somalia. Devastated by a decade of insurgency and piracy and now
ravaged by famine and plagued by vicious violence, you've got to
wonder why Mohamed Admed Noor was so ready to abandon refuge in
Britain to be Mayor. As part of our project Game Changer, we follow the irrepressible Mayor of
Mogadishu.
Part Two of The
Current --
The Mayor of Mogadishu
Few big city mayors wear a
chain of office as heavy and burdensome as the mayor of Mogadishu, the
capital of a country that hasn't had a functioning government in more
than two decades. Somalia is plagued by the allies of al-Qaeda and
pirates rule the coast.
The country is so dangerous,
the United Nations bases most of its Somali operations in nearby
Kenya. Politicians trying to restore order in this anarchy find
they quickly become
targets. And yet, late last
year, Mohamed Ahmed Noor decided to sign on as the Mayor of
Mogadishu.
As part of The Current's ongoing Game Changer project, freelance writer and broadcaster Hassan Ghedi Santur went to meet the man many are calling
Mogadishu's last hope. Hassan joined Anna Maria in our Toronto studio
to introduce his documentary, The Son of Mogadishu.
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/episode/2011/10/03/resistance-fighter-stephane-hessel/
Monday October 3,
2011 Resistance
Fighter: Stephane Hessel
Terrible things happened to
Stephane Hessel when he fought in the French resistance seventy years
ago. But he hasn't stop fighting. Now, at the age of 94, he's written
a best seller that's inspired many young people. Find out what's
behind the new French resistance.
Part Three of The
Current -- Resistance Fighter: Stephane Hessel
If you fought with the French
resistance in the early 1940's there was a popular song that helped lift spirits: Le Chant de
Partisans.
Seventy years later, one of
the last survivors of the French resistance is still trying to lift
spirits. Stephane
Hessel played a key role
fighting the Nazi occupiers during the Second World War. Today, the 94
year old former freedom fighter is inspiring people to join a modern
resistance. His book, Time for Outrage has sold more than four million copies in 30
languages. Stephane Hessel joined us from New York City.
REVIEWS:
http://www.thenation.com/article/158644/time-outrage
and
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/10/books/stephane-hessel-93-calls-for-time-of-outrage-in-france.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
=== HERITAGEWATCH ==
HSBC, HV, VHF, HWV
+ HSBC
http://www.heritagebc.ca/
Provincial
Government,
What's New Minister Promises $35,000 for Heritage
BC
At the Heritage BC
Annual Conference at Burnaby's Shadbolt Centre on September 30, 2011,
the Honourable Steve Thomson, minister responsible for heritage
conservation, announced that a financial contribution of $35,000 will
be made to Heritage BC over the next six months. The funds are
to assist Heritage BC develop a new strategic plan. Until 2009, the
provincial government had provided annual operating funding for
Heritage BC. That... =BBMore
Posted Fri, Oct 7th,
2011
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=== MAIKU ===
2011 October 10/11 -- listening to the night rain
so
now monsoon season starts
some
determined drops
above the deluge
rain
starts to lessen
some
desultory drops
slow...soften...softer...silence...
~~~
QUOTATIONS/THOUGHTS/PUN ~~~
We're here to put a dent in the universe.
-- Steve Jobs,
American entrepreneur and inventor (1955 - 2011)
We are responsible for our silences as
well as for our words.
-- Leonard Roy Frank, American writer (b
1932)
There is only one thing more painful than learning from
experience, and that is not learning from experience.
-- Laurence J. Peter,
Vancouver-born educator (1919 - 1980)
It isn't the mountain ahead that wears you out -- it's the
grain of sand in your shoe.
--
Robert Service, Bard of the Yukon (1874 - 1958)
{Carolanne, ever the
optimist, hopes the grain of sand lands in an
oyster......}
Finance is the art of passing money from hand to
hand until it finally
disappears.
--
Robert W. Sarnoff, American head of RCA (age
78?)
Misunderstandings and neglect occasion more mischief in the
world than even malice and wickedness.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German
poet, dramatist, novelist, and philosopher (1749 - 1832)
How is it possible to expect that mankind will take advice,
when they will not so much as take warning?
-- Jonathan Swift, Anglo-Irish satirist,
essayist, and political pamphleteer (1667 - 1745)
If they give you ruled paper, write the other way.
-- Juan Ramon Jimenez, Spanish poet, Nobel Prize
winner in literature (1881 - 1958)
The fragrance always stays in the hand that
gives the rose. -- Hadia Bejar
The
crowd at the cannibal's party grew silent when he announced he would
be serving finger foods.
I can
never wear glasses. They make me see-sick.
My dog
failed his driving test, he can't parallel bark.
The Oldest
Profession
A doctor, an architect,
and a computer scientist were arguing about whose profession was the
oldest.
In the course of their
arguments, they went all the way back to the Garden of Eden. The
doctor said, "The medical profession is clearly the oldest
because Eve was made from Adam's rib, as the story goes, and that was
an incredible surgical feat."
The architect did not agree.
He said, "But if you look at the Garden itself, in the beginning
there was chaos and void, and out of that, the Garden and
the world were created. So God must have been an
architect."
The computer scientist, who
had listened to all of this said, "Yes, but where do you think
the chaos came from?"